HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

Juju works ohh. Just see you have not seen the original one like those in Ishan.

There are so many foolish people in the world. This thread is a microcosm of it.

[quote author=HungerBAD post=70250557]These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin? Can you choose your location,Let Seun be the unmpire,arm yourself black and white your death warrant agreement..l have some instant juju l would like to try on,you may not survive it 'cos l have antidote for it.your paper can save my face from being a murderer...

dangoteinlaw:
na the same Beni ppl done useless Ur already diminished life so, if not what would a grown man be doing online by this time on a Monday?

Monday? today no be tuesday? abi na you the jazz dey worry? you dey online and insulting another person online lmao.

HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

Bloodline is what give power to juju . And most times it affect black man because of the blood. It cant affect the whites because they aren't connectted to Africans by blood.

If you stay in the Western part of Nigeria, this kind of stuff are normal, I don't fear, I plead the blood of Jesus Christ and pass, a woman mistakenly forgot to remove her pot of Eboo (sacrifice) inside her shop, and parked out, when I rented the shop, I prayed and pleaded the Blood of Jesus on it, removed the pot and set it ablaze nothing happened. When I rented my apartment in Lagos, I felt I don't like the nature of the entrance to the passage, I bought a bag of Cement called a bricklayer, as he was smashing the floor to create a new flooring, that was how we saw a Calabash buried on the floor of the building, and many tenants have been staying there for years, low and behold, the Yoruba bricklayer who was busy on the work advised we dig the floor and put back the Calabash, I said No, just remove it and keep it by the side for the owner of the house, at first he refused that he doesn't want to "fi ori ko", I was like man, if you no want work again carry your load go make I go call another person, at the end he adhere. After that incident, I stayed in that compound for over 5 years and left, the Landlord so much had respect on me, but you will hear him raining course on other tenants. So those things only work for those who don't know who they relied on.

Seun:
Our belief in juju is a form of Mental slavery.

Omode o mo ogun onpe lefo.
Eni shango toju e yoda ko ni ba won bu oba koso mo.

if things are rosy for you, please thank your God or whatever you believe in but just know that these things (juju) exists and are very potent.

akoaki:


Juju works but has limitations, unlike technology.

Juju is useless in the big picture, the reason juju is limited as per your excuse is because it's a trick, sham.

Technology and Science are evolving on daily basis and we're using it to develop the society, that's what we call potency!

akoaki:


Juju works but it has many limitations because the practitioners failed to update it as it is done for science and technology.

i think u are right especially those with "account", most of them aren't complete.

Flakky26:


Bloodline is what give power to juju . And most times it affect black man because of the blood. It cant affect the whites because they aren't connectted to Africans by blood.

Hahahahahaha

One of the silly excuses, so juju recognize genetics?

Even if we agree to your irrational claim, juju is still useless.

HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

Haaa!
Mr man the JuJu that you say does not exist was performed in the Bible.

tintingz:
No one said there's no evil or wicked people, you're pulling strawman.

What is said is juju is impotent and useless, if juju works why are we not developed and be among the G7 using juju as nuclear weapons and bulletproof for our military forces, why?

First of all we generally have a warped idea of "juju". The word juju is even a derogatory word by the French to describe African belief system.So called juju was never about doing evil. Foreign religions had to demonise our traditional belief to get a foothold and eventually dominate.

Secondly most using juju these days are actually Christians/Muslims who approach traditional priests for evil stuff like money ritual.

Thirdly, many modern babalawos have commercialised their skills in response to what people are requesting: money ritual, tying down a friend or family member's progress in life, illness, etc.

When you begin to think in that manner bolded, you will get the whole idea wrong. It is an ancient art that was never meant to be hi-tech or do evil. Science didn't develop from Western paganism or occultism. Occult are still very much active in the West.

We ascribe too much power to traditional arts may because of Nollywood (Susu, K. O Kanayo, and the dude killing his brothers to take their land, etc) which in reality is not that clear-cult.

Traditional worship was developed largely based on nature (rivers, thunder, mountain, moon, stars, rain, sun, whirlwind, seasons) and the philosophy of how they work and how certain chosen people (who in death may also become deities) can communicate with these and other forces beyond our reach, and the role they play in the affairs of mankind, good or bad. furthermore these forces manifest the power of the superior God (Eledumare, Osanobua, Chukwu, etc) as intermediaries.
This is my conclusion based on interacting with people who were around 90 to 105 years old by the end of 1980s. People who lived their entire lives as pagans, while watching how the world changed drastically in religious terms.

Killing people, hindering people's progress or money ritual were never relevant themes in their worship. It was about protecting oneself and family from evil, praying for progress and good health.

On the contrary, there were rules and taboos that were important in inter-personal relationships. People were never to do evil to each other in the community including infidelity, doing evil diabolic stuff against others. In fact certain deities (Alale, Oro, Erimwin-Idu, Erimwin-otor, Orele) are examples) were dedicated to cleansing the land of abominable acts or taboo deliberately or inadvertently broken, yearly or every few years. People maybe required to swear to do no evil or those who did may be required to confess. You may hear of Oro festival in Ikorodu sometimes. There equivalent ones across many parts of Southern Nigeria.

The error we make is to assume it's about a witch in Edo or Ijebu flying to kill one successful son or daughter of theirs in Abuja or Kano.

If we fix our roads, provide an excellent healthcare/emergency care system, a booming economy, higher quality of life, people will live better & longer and village people wont have to take the blame for everything.

As for the man with juju at doorstep, we have no evidence it was meant to kill or impoverish his tenants. It could have been for protection fro bad tenants or to get good tenants and drive bad ones out of his house, at least in his own belief.

Considering how much I have lost to bad tenants (lost rent & legal fees), an older landlord brought up with traditional beliefs could easily have resorted to planting juju in his house to avoid bad tenants.

DEBJOCH1:
If you stay in the Western part of Nigeria, this kind of stuff are normal, I don't fear, I plead the blood of Jesus Christ and pass, a woman mistakenly forgot to remove her pot of Eboo (sacrifice) inside her shop, and parked out, when I rented the shop, I prayed and pleaded the Blood of Jesus on it, removed the pot and set it ablaze nothing happened. When I rented my apartment in Lagos, I felt I don't like the nature of the entrance to the passage, I bought a bag of Cement called a bricklayer, as he was smashing the floor to create a new flooring, that was how we saw a Calabash buried on the floor of the building, and many tenants have been staying there for years, low and behold, the Yoruba bricklayer who was busy on the work advised we dig the floor and put back the Calabash, I said No, just remove it and keep it by the side for the owner of the house, at first he refused that he doesn't want to "fi ori ko", I was like man, if you no want work again carry your load go make I go call another person, at the end he adhere. After that incident, I stayed in that compound for over 5 years and left, the Landlord so much had respect on me, but you will hear him raining course on other tenants. So those things only work for those who don't know who they relied on.

Don't mind most of them saying that. If one is not strong spiritually they will become minced meat for these evil forces.

The major reason for Africa's backwardness are all these stuffs. God hates idolatry. And idolatry breeds poverty.

If you want to see poverty go to Haiti. The only country that it's founders made a covenant with devils. Tufiakwa. God forbid.

HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

The more ignorant ones believe that the white man is a special being that juju doesnt affect

pocohantas:
Juju wey no fit bring development.
E no fit move the entire money in a bank's vault.

Na only to tie people destiny and womb.

Endtime juju!

Juju is real o. We have white witches and wizards. They call it metaphysics.

During world war 2, Adolf Hitler applied metaphysics to win tough wars.

He had some special military forces that were invisible to enemy soldiers.

A special machine was used to transform some special Nazi soldiers such that an ordinary human eye can't see them but they will be seeing you and be shooting at you invincibly, isn't that juju

All the scientific inventions we are enjoying today are borne out of extraordinary power of thinking and imagination.

Have you heard of the Anunaki

You need to read some secret philosophical books on the history of mankind, science and technology invention where white people themselves documented how some supernatural beings called Inunakis came down from nowhere to teach humans how to do some extraordinary things like the Egyptian pyramid construction, etc.

Don't follow some hypocrites here to argue the existence of evil powers, just thank God u aren't under their influence and whenever u can, thank God for safety and grace, that's all

abeg who use evil and wicked swear for Afonja

DEBJOCH1:
If you stay in the Western part of Nigeria, this kind of stuff are normal, I don't fear, I plead the blood of Jesus Christ and pass, a woman mistakenly forgot to remove her pot of Eboo (sacrifice) inside her shop, and parked out, when I rented the shop, I prayed and pleaded the Blood of Jesus on it, removed the pot and set it ablaze nothing happened. When I rented my apartment in Lagos, I felt I don't like the nature of the entrance to the passage, I bought a bag of Cement called a bricklayer, as he was smashing the floor to create a new flooring, that was how we saw a Calabash buried on the floor of the building, and many tenants have been staying there for years, low and behold, the Yoruba bricklayer who was busy on the work advised we dig the floor and put back the Calabash, I said No, just remove it and keep it by the side for the owner of the house, at first he refused that he doesn't want to "fi ori ko", I was like man, if you no want work again carry your load go make I go call another person, at the end he adhere. After that incident, I stayed in that compound for over 5 years and left, the Landlord so much had respect on me, but you will hear him raining course on other tenants. So those things only work for those who don't know who they relied on.

Lmao!

I rely on Superman he's always with me everyday.

Lazy useless people looking for who to blame for their miserable existence.




And they also said a redeemed pastries lost his wife because of the JuJu I thought they said their Jesus is more powerful than JuJu



Idiots

Read more on "Ijebu Juju Landlord Used to Tie Tenant's Destiny" at http://www.naijapoint.com.ng/2018/08/13/see-the-strong-ijebu-juju-landord-used-to-tie-tenants-destiny-in-ikorodu/.
It is real!!!

HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

I’m also with you on this one. I might not like your numerous posts but will always let you know when you make sense. Argued with someone here when he said there is something like money rituals. I asked him if he has done it or seen it with his eyes he said what about gun jazz and I asked him again why do soldiers die of gunshots if there is gun jazz. The guy back out and we will never agree.

franchasng:
Juju is real o. We have white witches and wizards. They call it metaphysics.

During world war 2, Adolf Hitler applied metaphysics to win tough wars.

He had some special military forces that were invisible to enemy soldiers.

A special machine was used to transfer some special Nazi soldiers such that an ordinary human eye can't see them but they will be seeing you and be shooting at you invincibly, isn't that juju

All the scientific inventions we are enjoying today are borne out of extraordinary power of thinking and imagination.

Have you heard of the Anunaki

You need to read some secret philosophical books on the history of mankind, science and technology invention where white people themselves documented how some supernatural beings called Inunakis came down from nowhere to teach humans how to do some extraordinary things like the Egyptian pyramid construction, etc.

Don't follow some hypocrites here to argue the existence of evil powers, just thank God u aren't under their influence and whenever u can, thank God for safety and grace, that's all

LIES!

What metaphysics or juju did Adolf Hitler use, let's hear you.

[quote author=Jabioro post=70266257][/quote]

I take up your challenge. We are going to meet in an open field, in the presence of armed security. You won't touch my body with an object. Because you could lace a sharp object with poison and by touching my body with it, you could transfer a dangerous poison to my body.

Also,you won't blow a powder of any form towards my direction. Those are physical means of killing people. All I need you to do is to chant some incantations and kill me.

HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

Pray you do not have serious, life threatening problems/troubles.

Dark forces exist, God Himself acknowledges this and gave us option to conquer them.
They may be dealing with you and you'd think what's happening to you is normal.
Do you believe in light, live, right, etc without their corresponding opposites biz darkness, death, left/wrong? God has created everything in twos, one creates the awareness of the other and its appreciation/importance.
Your assertion is like saying devil/Satan does not exist

tintingz:
Juju is useless in the big picture, the reason juju is limited as per your excuse is because it's a trick, sham.

Technology and Science are evolving on daily basis and we're using it to develop the society, that's what we call potency!

Some scientific theories failed in the past but were later updated through further research.
Juju has worked in the past but with limitations . Practitioners do not engage in research.

For you to believe someone can tie your destiny and ret ard your progress with a fetish,inanimate object shows how foolish they are and their lack of true faith in God.
I always ask,how come the most ardent church goers and religious fanatics in Nigeria are still the ones that believe another human being can re tard their progress through one "spiritual" object or the other?
Where then lies their belief in the God they serve because they are then saying the mere mortal and the objects he/she uses is more powerful than the God they proclaim to serve.

AreaFada2:


First of all we generally have a warped idea of "juju". The word juju is even a derogatory word by the French to describe African belief system.So called juju was never about doing evil. Foreign religions had to demonise our traditional belief to get a foothold and eventually dominate.

Secondly most using juju these days are actually Christians/Muslims who approach traditional priests for evil stuff like money ritual.

Thirdly, many modern babalawos have commercialised their skills in response to what people are requesting: money ritual, tying down a friend or family member's progress in life, illness, etc.

When you begin to think in that manner bolded, you will get the whole idea wrong. It is an ancient art that was never meant to be hi-tech or do evil. Science didn't develop from Western paganism or occultism. Occult are still very much active in the West.

We ascribe too much power to traditional arts may because of Nollywood (Susu, K. O Kanayo, and the dude killing his brothers to take their land, etc) which in reality is not that clear-cult.

Traditional worship was developed largely based on nature (rivers, thunder, mountain, moon, stars, rain, sun, whirlwind, seasons) and the philosophy of how they work and how certain chosen people (who in death may also become deities) can communicate with these and other forces beyond our reach, and the role they play in the affairs of mankind, good or bad. furthermore these forces manifest the power of the superior God (Eledumare, Osanobua, Chukwu, etc) as intermediaries.
This is my conclusion based on interacting with people who were around 90 to 105 years old by the end of 1980s. People who lived their entire lives as pagans, while watching how the world changed drastically in religious terms.

Killing people, hindering people's progress or money ritual were never relevant themes in their worship. It was about protecting oneself and family from evil, praying for progress and good health.

On the contrary, there were rules and taboos that were important in inter-personal relationships. People were never to do evil to each other in the community including infidelity, doing evil diabolic stuff against others. In fact certain deities (Alale, Oro, Erimwin-Idu, Erimwin-otor, Orele) are examples) were dedicated to cleansing the land of abominable acts or taboo deliberately or inadvertently broken, yearly or every few years. People maybe required to swear to do no evil or those who did may be required to confess. You may hear of Oro festival in Ikorodu sometimes. There equivalent ones across many parts of Southern Nigeria.

The error we make is to assume it's about a witch in Edo or Ijebu flying to kill one successful son or daughter of theirs in Abuja or Kano.

If we fix our roads, provide an excellent healthcare/emergency care system, a booming economy, higher quality of life, people will live better & longer and village people wont have to take the blame for everything.

As for the man with juju at doorstep, we have no evidence it was meant to kill or impoverish his tenants. It could have been for protection fro bad tenants or to get good tenants and drive bad ones out of his house, at least in his own belief.

Considering how much I have lost to bad tenants (lost rent & legal fees), an older landlord brought up with traditional beliefs could easily have resorted to planting juju in his house to avoid bad tenants.

With your epistle, the conclusion is juju is still useless.

Using juju for blulletproof in wars is a good thing, using juju as a form of weapons is good for self defense, we read and hear how our forefathers used juju in wars.

So why is it not adopted in the military force?

Grupo:


I take up your challenge. We are going to meet in an open field, in the presence of armed security. You won't touch my body with an object. Because you could lace a sharp object with poison and by touching my body with it, you could transfer a dangerous poison to my body.

Also,you won't blow a powder of any form towards my direction. Those are physical means of killing people. All I need you to do is to chant some incantations and kill me.

Good...l have thought as much,but before then the security men would check me against any of your aforementioned..because we are talking about juju (charm) but if you need the incantational one,just give me your real and mother name...lobatan lo ba sun lo ba ji...earth would just remember you for bad..

HungerBAD:
These things don't work.

I have repeatedly stated it here, that those that believe in juju are not only ignorant, but that they are getting scammed by the so called juju men or herbalists. If there was JUJU, how did the British come into this Country with just Guns, and were able to take over Nigeria? why did the Juju not catch them?

In fact the so called juju places in Nigeria were among the first to be captured. Oba Ovonramwen, with all the Benin Juju he had, was not only captured, but he was also Frog-Jumped in Chains from Benin to Calabar, where he eventually died. The other day i heard one boasting "Try me you go know say i be Bini Man" and so i am thinking, which Benin?the one the British ran through?

The Ijebu's too that claim to posses juju, had all their villages and towns burnt to the ground by the British, and their juju did not work. The British-Ijebu war of 1892 (The battle of Imagbon) is something those interested in history should go and read about.

Let us stop glorifying these black magics. They do not work.

Tell them please.

tintingz:
LIES!

What metaphysics or juju did Adolf Hitler use, let's hear you.

don't argue with me. I have read virtually all Adolf Hitler's war documentary right from when he was a young soldier fighting during the first world war to when he became the leader of the Nazi party to when he began massive researches and stockpiling of arms against European nation ban on Germany after the havoc they wrecked during the first world war.

I can't remember the exact book or video documentary to recommend for u to watch for it, but believe me, Hitler went extraordinary. Make a research.

World War II was brutal.

Every nation that involved were desperate to win at all cost.

Japan had the special Shinbun soldiers who were specially trained volunteer Airforce soldiers who would Mann some single pilot shinbun jetfighter that have a mission to destroy enemy target in a suicide type mission without any plan of return. So the pilot will just pilot the jerfighter targeted at impenetrable enemy regions and crash into that target carrying highly multiple explosive bombs such that whether the enemy shoots it down or not, it must cause total damage.

While German Nazi forces used chemical weapons like poisonous gas they detonated at war fronts with enemy soldiers and immediately wear their gas mask while shooting sporadically at enemy soldiers who were being suffocated by the poisonous gas.

It was a brutal war.

Coup was plotted against Hitler thrice and he escaped extraordinarily.

In one of the coups, it was his vice that plotted it during one of their top Nazi party meeting in Berlin where the German Reich Furer will be addressing the nation.

He came in with the bomb in his brief case and he was to seat beside Hitler.

Because of his rank, he wasn't searched by the numerous army checkpoints that searched every participant before they entered the main building.

2 minutes to Hitler's entrance to his seat, the man abandoned his portfolio on the desk and left.

Immediately Hitler sat down just beside the portfolio, the timed bomb exploded and killed almost everybody there and newspapers including London Times, New York Times, etc began carrying it that Adolf Hitler has been murdered in a top rated coup.

Hitler appeared on Nazi TV a few mins later to address the nation and to debunk any news of his death.

This shocked even Roosevelt, Chamberlain, and even Russian Stalingrad.

Bro, u need to read more global war documentaries and invention history to understand life better

akoaki:


Some scientific theories failed in the past but were later updated through further research.
Juju has worked in the past but with limitations . Practitioners do not engage in research.

There are evidences of scientific theories and it can be demonstrate countless times, show me the evidence of the juju that worked in past, how did you know juju practitioners don't do research, I thought juju comes from the gods or spirits?

Proudly Jebusite
OP continue to blackmail Ijebu oooooo.
I checked through I couldn't find manufacturing state and date.

Ijebu dis,Ijebu dat ehnnnnnnnn.