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Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 6:44pm On Mar 20, 2018
I have heard this argument back and forth.Some people are of the opinion that the destiny of man is in Gods hands and that it is God who controls who a man should or would be as we were created by him.Some others are of the opinion that the destiny of man has always been in his own hands because God does not create a thief,kidnapper and other social vices done by people.They are of the opinion that it is how man decides to live his life which is by choice he either chooses to be of good impact to the society guided by principles or a bad impact to society.The contributions of the religious,atheists,agnostic,theists,deist,pantheists are highly welcomed.So what is your view?lalasticlala,mynd44,Seun,Martinez19,darkchild64,Mrmystr0,butterflylion,Ezedictator and others.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Niflheim(m): 6:54pm On Mar 20, 2018
@op,

1.God has no hands.

2.Jesus has holes in his hands.

3.The god Shiva is always holding 4 different items in each of his 4 hands!!!

4. The god Tyr, had one of his hands eaten by a wolf!!!

Moral to the Story: Putting your trust in a god is like reciting poetry to a goat!!!

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Martinez19(m): 6:55pm On Mar 20, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
I have heard this argument back and forth.Some people are of the opinion that the destiny of man is in Gods hands and that it is God who controls who a man should or would be as we were created by him.Some others are of the opinion that the destiny of man has always been in his own hands because God does not create a thief,kidnapper and other social vices done by people.They are of the opinion that it is how man decides to live his life which is by choice he either chooses to be of good impact to the society guided by principles or a bad impact to society.The contributions of the religious,atheists,agnostic,theists,deist,pantheists are highly welcomed.So what is your view?lalasticlala,mynd44,Seun,Martinez19,darkchild64,Mrmystro0,butterflylion,Ezedictator and others.
The so called destiny of humanity is in humanity's hands. It's obvious that life is what we make of it.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by XhosaNostra(f): 6:57pm On Mar 20, 2018
I think both. Because there're some experiences in life that when you look back at them in hindsight, you get an epiphany that they prepared you for what was to come in the future. Also, sometimes events follow a predictable sequence or a "familiar pattern", as if this life we're living is scripted somehow. I cannot count the number of times I've had a deja vu feeling over something that was happening, to the point where I knew exactly what was going to happen next. It almost feels like an out of body experience when it happens. At times I'm inclined to believe the conspiracy theorists who believe that this world is a stage & we're mere actors. Something similar to the movie, The Truman Show.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:07pm On Mar 20, 2018
XhosaNostra:
I think both. Because there're some experiences in life that when you look back at them in hindsight, you get an epiphany that they prepared you for what was to come in the future. Also, sometimes events follow a predictable sequence or a "familiar pattern", as if this life we're living is scripted somehow. I cannot count the number of times I've had a deja vu feeling over something that was happening, to the point where I knew exactly what was going to happen next. It almost feels like an out of body experience when it happens. At times I'm inclined to believe the conspiracy theorists who believe that this world is a stage & we're mere actors. Something similar to the movie, The Truman Show.
My thoughts as well it could all be a stage.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by XhosaNostra(f): 7:12pm On Mar 20, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
My thoughts as well it could all be a stage.

It's an unsettling thought though, isn't it?

*Shudders*

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Asquare84(m): 7:30pm On Mar 20, 2018
Man destiny is in his hand
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Homeboiy: 7:30pm On Mar 20, 2018
I don't have an answer

Iam having headache and I am drinking beer until am now
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by CAPSLOCKED: 7:59pm On Mar 20, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
I have heard this argument back and forth.Some people are of the opinion that the destiny of man is in Gods hands and that it is God who controls who a man should or would be as we were created by him.Some others are of the opinion that the destiny of man has always been in his own hands because God does not create a thief,kidnapper and other social vices done by people.They are of the opinion that it is how man decides to live his life which is by choice he either chooses to be of good impact to the society guided by principles or a bad impact to society.The contributions of the religious,atheists,agnostic,theists,deist,pantheists are highly welcomed.So what is your view?




.....BUT
BUT WHAT OF THE "DIVINE PLAN" ?

.......FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME, THE ALMIGHTY GOD ALREADY MADE A PLAN FOR HOW THE WORLD WILL BE FOREVER AND EVER, AND GOD NEVER CHANGES, WHAT HE SAYS WILL BE IS WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE.


IF A MAN GROWS UP TO BECOME A THIEF, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
IF A CHILD IS MOLESTED, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
THE FULANI HERDSMEN KILLING CITIZENS OF NIGERIA IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.

WE SHOULD STOP FIGHTING CRIME AND TERRORISM BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOD'S PLAN.
WE SHOULD IGNORE MEN WHO BULLY THEIR WIVES AND INNOCENT GIRLS ON THE STREET BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS GOD'S WILL. WHATEVER GOD SAYS WILL HAPPEN, WILL HAPPEN. WHATEVER HE SAYS WONT HAPPEN, WONT HAPPEN. SO GOD COMMANDS EVERYTHING TO HAPPEN.

IF YOU OPPOSE THIS (DON'T EVEN SAY "FREEWILL" ), YOU WILLFULLY CONCEDE THAT MERE MAN CAN ALTER GOD'S PLANS.

THIS IMPLIES THAT GOD IS NOT ALL PERFECT, SINCE MERE HUMANS CAN ALTER HIS "DIVINE PLAN", AND CHANGE HIS WILL.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE OR WORSHIP SUCH A CHARACTER.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by 400billionman: 8:40pm On Mar 20, 2018
God created man and gave him a free will. There are things in our lives we control resulting from our choices and external influences that we succumb to from friends family and neighbors, there are also outcomes we cannot control no matter how we try. Here we call upon God. The sun will shine or whether it will rain tomorrow. Whether you will make good sales tomorrow or hit gold. But the two strongest forces on earth are these FAITH and FEAR. Till you realize this truth you cannot control the outcome of events in your life. Your destiny is in your hand. 9O%, of our fears are non existent but only 1O% of us realize that. These 1O% control 9O% of the resources in the world through Faith.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by IVORY2009(m): 9:07pm On Mar 20, 2018
Your life is entirely determined by fate AND you have complete control over your destiny.
You had no control over getting born or what your parents were like, or what childhood diseases you suffered. If a meteorite fell out of the sky and smacked you on the head or missed you while you were buying a winning lottery ticket, that would also be something beyond your control. So fate determines everything.
Ah, but destiny is where you end up and is decided by how well you deal with everything fate gives you to work with.
Or is it really(?) because in the end we all have the same destiny, and that is to die.
But nevermind about dying, because what really matters isn't getting born or dying.
What matters are the times in between those events.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Nobody: 9:26pm On Mar 20, 2018
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.....BUT
BUT WHAT OF THE "DIVINE PLAN" ?

.......FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME, THE ALMIGHTY GOD ALREADY MADE A PLAN FOR HOW THE WORLD WILL BE FOREVER AND EVER, AND GOD NEVER CHANGES, WHAT HE SAYS WILL BE IS WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE.


IF A MAN GROWS UP TO BECOME A THIEF, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
IF A CHILD IS MOLESTED, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
THE FULANI HERDSMEN KILLING CITIZENS OF NIGERIA IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.

WE SHOULD STOP FIGHTING CRIME AND TERRORISM BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOD'S PLAN.
WE SHOULD IGNORE MEN WHO BULLY THEIR WIVES AND INNOCENT GIRLS ON THE STREET BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS GOD'S WILL. WHATEVER GOD SAYS WILL HAPPEN, WILL HAPPEN. WHATEVER HE SAYS WONT HAPPEN, WONT HAPPEN. SO GOD COMMANDS EVERYTHING TO HAPPEN.

IF YOU OPPOSE THIS (DON'T EVEN SAY "FREEWILL" ), YOU WILLFULLY CONCEDE THAT MERE MAN CAN ALTER GOD'S PLANS.

THIS IMPLIES THAT GOD IS NOT ALL PERFECT, SINCE MERE HUMANS CAN ALTER HIS "DIVINE PLAN", AND CHANGE HIS WILL.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE OR WORSHIP SUCH A CHARACTER.
This has always been my belief, I mean, if and only if there's God, and if and only if He has a plan for us, and if and only if He's " omni blah blah blah". Then both the good and the bad, is part of his plan, me replying this post is part of his plan, the OP creating the thread is part of his plan, because we can all choose not to do these things and many more. Otherwise, if humans can alter his plan, He's not Omni blah blah blah, therefore, He's not perfect. and if He's not perfect, he can be conquered. Except, his plan is for humans to alter his plans.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by MrMystrO(m): 11:08pm On Mar 20, 2018
Lovely thread Ladyhippolyta88. I would like to present my contribution as simple and understandable as it can be but i still fear some concepts i might use might not be easily understandable but i will give it a try. First of all are you familiar the the concept of paradoxes? i personally call them Eternal Cycles. On an earlier thread of mine i talked about paradoxes as being ideas or Questions that doesn't belong to our normal default 3 Dimensional realm of understanding and as such makes them unable to be grasped by the human mind. i also said "In Eternal cycles, the two Parent forces of life meet and everything at this state is considered One with Each other. At this point it becomes impossible for the human mind to fully Grasp such phenomenons because our existence is on the Third Dimensional plane which is vigorously grounded in Duality"


With being said, I personally believe The key to understanding this question is Understanding paradoxes.

In Our understanding of Reality, Everything is grounded on duality, Opposites or Polarity.
Its Either
Yes or No
Good or Bad
Wrong or Right
Light or darkness..e.t.c.

But what if there is a State that Transcends this type of reality? What if there is a state where all is neutral.. Where the two polarities become One.. Where it is possible to BE and also NOT BE?... Sorry to drag your mind into this weird Zone but this is the territory of the Question you're asking. The concept of Destiny is a paradox, just as the concept of God and Eternity are also paradoxes. You just can't understand them with the human Reality of Duality and Polarity.

In this case the Answer you seek is also in your question.
is Man's Destiny Shaped By God or By Man himself?
I say man's Destiny is Shaped by God and at the same time also By Man Himself...Remove the Polarities between Man and God and you get your answer.

Before i go i would refer you to my previous quote on the paradox of the idea of God.

"The idea of God is in itself the Biggest Paradox of All, That's why i Believe when you say God Exists, You're Right and Also when you say he doesn't exist, You're also Right! Duality does Not Exist on that plane you are threading on and therefore on this Plane, The creator and the Creation are simply inseparable, One and The same"

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Shugavee(f): 12:22am On Mar 21, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
I have heard this argument back and forth.Some people are of the opinion that the destiny of man is in Gods hands and that it is God who controls who a man should or would be as we were created by him.Some others are of the opinion that the destiny of man has always been in his own hands because God does not create a thief,kidnapper and other social vices done by people.They are of the opinion that it is how man decides to live his life which is by choice he either chooses to be of good impact to the society guided by principles or a bad impact to society.The contributions of the religious,atheists,agnostic,theists,deist,pantheists are highly welcomed.So what is your view?lalasticlala,mynd44,Seun,Martinez19,darkchild64,Mrmystr0,butterflylion,Ezedictator and others.
both!!!
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by CuteMadridista: 5:05am On Mar 21, 2018
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.....BUT
BUT WHAT OF THE "DIVINE PLAN" ?

.......FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME, THE ALMIGHTY GOD ALREADY MADE A PLAN FOR HOW THE WORLD WILL BE FOREVER AND EVER, AND GOD NEVER CHANGES, WHAT HE SAYS WILL BE IS WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE.


IF A MAN GROWS UP TO BECOME A THIEF, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
IF A CHILD IS MOLESTED, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
THE FULANI HERDSMEN KILLING CITIZENS OF NIGERIA IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.

WE SHOULD STOP FIGHTING CRIME AND TERRORISM BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOD'S PLAN.
WE SHOULD IGNORE MEN WHO BULLY THEIR WIVES AND INNOCENT GIRLS ON THE STREET BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS GOD'S WILL. WHATEVER GOD SAYS WILL HAPPEN, WILL HAPPEN. WHATEVER HE SAYS WONT HAPPEN, WONT HAPPEN. SO GOD COMMANDS EVERYTHING TO HAPPEN.

IF YOU OPPOSE THIS (DON'T EVEN SAY "FREEWILL" ), YOU WILLFULLY CONCEDE THAT MERE MAN CAN ALTER GOD'S PLANS.

THIS IMPLIES THAT GOD IS NOT ALL PERFECT, SINCE MERE HUMANS CAN ALTER HIS "DIVINE PLAN", AND CHANGE HIS WILL.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE OR WORSHIP SUCH A CHARACTER.

THREAD LOSED

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by paxonel(m): 6:14am On Mar 21, 2018
In as much as God still maintain his right to interfer with human activities that will lead to his destiny most times he is not interfering.
Every power has been given to man now to lead his own destiny trusting that man is capable to do so

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by danvon(m): 6:47am On Mar 21, 2018
From the matrix Oracle

"You didn't come here to make the choice you've already made it now you have to understand why you made it"

We've already made our choices in this world but only God knows the future

It depends on how you define free will

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Nobody: 11:10am On Mar 21, 2018
MrMystrO:
Lovely thread Ladyhippolyta88. I would like to present my contribution as simple and understandable as it can be but i still fear some concepts i might use might not be easily understandable but i will give it a try. First of all are you familiar the the concept of paradoxes? i personally call them Eternal Cycles. On an earlier thread of mine i talked about paradoxes as being ideas or Questions that doesn't belong to our normal default 3 Dimensional realm of understanding and as such makes them unable to be grasped by the human mind. i also said "In Eternal cycles, the two Parent forces of life meet and everything at this state is considered One with Each other. At this point it becomes impossible for the human mind to fully Grasp such phenomenons because our existence is on the Third Dimensional plane which is vigorously grounded in Duality"


With being said, I personally believe The key to understanding this question is Understanding paradoxes.

In Our understanding of Reality, Everything is grounded on duality, Opposites or Polarity.
Its Either
Yes or No
Good or Bad
Wrong or Right
Light or darkness..e.t.c.

But what if there is a State that Transcends this type of reality? What if there is a state where all is neutral.. Where the two polarities become One.. Where it is possible to BE and also NOT BE?... Sorry to drag your mind into this weird Zone but this is the territory of the Question you're asking. The concept of Destiny is a paradox, just as the concept of God and Eternity are also paradoxes. You just can't understand them with the human Reality of Duality and Polarity.

In this case the Answer you seek is also in your question.
is Man's Destiny Shaped By God or By Man himself?
I say man's Destiny is Shaped by God and at the same time also By Man Himself...Remove the Polarities between Man and God and you get your answer.

Before i go i would refer you to my previous quote on the paradox of the idea of God.

"The idea of God is in itself the Biggest Paradox of All, That's why i Believe when you say God Exists, You're Right and Also when you say he doesn't exist, You're also Right! Duality does Not Exist on that plane you are threading on and therefore on this Plane, The creator and the Creation are simply inseparable, One and The same"



hmmm nice I agree with the majority of ur post.... I only have a doubt, are you a pantheist?
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Nobody: 11:18am On Mar 21, 2018
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.....BUT
BUT WHAT OF THE "DIVINE PLAN" ?

.......FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME, THE ALMIGHTY GOD ALREADY MADE A PLAN FOR HOW THE WORLD WILL BE FOREVER AND EVER, AND GOD NEVER CHANGES, WHAT HE SAYS WILL BE IS WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE.


IF A MAN GROWS UP TO BECOME A THIEF, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
IF A CHILD IS MOLESTED, IT IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.
THE FULANI HERDSMEN KILLING CITIZENS OF NIGERIA IS ALL GOD'S PLAN.

WE SHOULD STOP FIGHTING CRIME AND TERRORISM BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOD'S PLAN.
WE SHOULD IGNORE MEN WHO BULLY THEIR WIVES AND INNOCENT GIRLS ON THE STREET BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS GOD'S WILL. WHATEVER GOD SAYS WILL HAPPEN, WILL HAPPEN. WHATEVER HE SAYS WONT HAPPEN, WONT HAPPEN. SO GOD COMMANDS EVERYTHING TO HAPPEN.

IF YOU OPPOSE THIS (DON'T EVEN SAY "FREEWILL" ), YOU WILLFULLY CONCEDE THAT MERE MAN CAN ALTER GOD'S PLANS.

THIS IMPLIES THAT GOD IS NOT ALL PERFECT, SINCE MERE HUMANS CAN ALTER HIS "DIVINE PLAN", AND CHANGE HIS WILL.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BELIEVE OR WORSHIP SUCH A CHARACTER.

really?
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by MrMystrO(m): 11:42am On Mar 21, 2018
Ferisidowu:


hmmm nice I agree with the majority of ur post.... I only have a doubt, are you a pantheist?

Thank you and Yes i am a pantheist.
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by budaatum: 4:31pm On Mar 21, 2018
What woke you up this morning? Did something apart from you decide to get you up when you did? You might think not, that that something made you go to bed in the first place intending you to wake up when you did. So, which of your legs touched the ground first? And all the other choices you have made today, did that thing determine that too? Those choices are afterall what determined where you are right now, your destiny, at least to this minute.

Just think, gone are the days when it was god's will for some people to be captured, chained, shipped and enslaved to work for some master in a foreign land. It was for this purpose that god made them black, so they can be identified as beasts and worked as such by those who god made their master and designated with white skin. The destiny of black people was to be the slave, or at least, so went the thinking! Would you accept that if you had a say in the matter?

It's very easy for humans to give credit for their choices to the supernatural. Christianity specifically says "for Christ's sake", but I think it robs the individual of self worth. You will achieve things in life. You, will achieve those things, but you might be the sort that claims God done it. And that's okay I guess. Then your child will achieve something in life, but you will give the credit and praise to God, and not your child! But when another person is a bum on the street begging from you, you would hardly claim God put that person there, and God put you there to help them! Oh no, its the bums fault for begging at the gate but God's fault for the rich man in his mansion.

Not many steal from themselves the credit for their achievements and give it all to gods. You might think you do, and some actually really do. But all things considered, you know how much work you had to do to achieve what you achieved. You know how much effort was expended. So I advise you to give yourself some credit and pat yourself on the back, or at least give some credit to others. For even if it were true that the gods worked through you, you would have had to at least done some work to ensure the gods considered you worthy of being worked through in the first place!

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Nobody: 10:48am On Mar 27, 2018
Your Destiny Is In Your Hands, you Choose Your Path not God... God Only Holds The Life

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by CAPTIVATOR: 5:10pm On Mar 27, 2018
We have choices, He only offer guidelines ... But he doesn't determine our choices .


"Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make . Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!"


Deu 34:10

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by tahoe(m): 7:11pm On May 15, 2018
I believe every mans destiny is in his own hands and you should make make your own luck
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by profeazy: 6:55pm On Oct 10, 2018
MrMystrO:
Lovely thread Ladyhippolyta88. I would like to present my contribution as simple and understandable as it can be but i still fear some concepts i might use might not be easily understandable but i will give it a try. First of all are you familiar the the concept of paradoxes? i personally call them Eternal Cycles. On an earlier thread of mine i talked about paradoxes as being ideas or Questions that doesn't belong to our normal default 3 Dimensional realm of understanding and as such makes them unable to be grasped by the human mind. i also said "In Eternal cycles, the two Parent forces of life meet and everything at this state is considered One with Each other. At this point it becomes impossible for the human mind to fully Grasp such phenomenons because our existence is on the Third Dimensional plane which is vigorously grounded in Duality"


With being said, I personally believe The key to understanding this question is Understanding paradoxes.

In Our understanding of Reality, Everything is grounded on duality, Opposites or Polarity.
Its Either
Yes or No
Good or Bad
Wrong or Right
Light or darkness..e.t.c.

But what if there is a State that Transcends this type of reality? What if there is a state where all is neutral.. Where the two polarities become One.. Where it is possible to BE and also NOT BE?... Sorry to drag your mind into this weird Zone but this is the territory of the Question you're asking. The concept of Destiny is a paradox, just as the concept of God and Eternity are also paradoxes. You just can't understand them with the human Reality of Duality and Polarity.

In this case the Answer you seek is also in your question.
is Man's Destiny Shaped By God or By Man himself?
I say man's Destiny is Shaped by God and at the same time also By Man Himself...Remove the Polarities between Man and God and you get your answer.

Before i go i would refer you to my previous quote on the paradox of the idea of God.

"The idea of God is in itself the Biggest Paradox of All, That's why i Believe when you say God Exists, You're Right and Also when you say he doesn't exist, You're also Right! Duality does Not Exist on that plane you are threading on and therefore on this Plane, The creator and the Creation are simply inseparable, One and The same"



Guy! No near Yaba talk this kind theory ooo. Na incaceration for life without parole those psycha doctors go give you!

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:33pm On Oct 10, 2018
Our destiny is first and foremost in God's and also in our hands. God and man are partners in this. Work out your own salvation for it is God who is at work in you.

Think of it like this, God is the Vine while we are the branches. Our job is to abide in Him through trust. You can limit the life and nourishment of God your Vine through lack of trust and thereby endangering your destiny.

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by MrMystrO(m): 9:09pm On Oct 11, 2018
profeazy:


Guy! No near Yaba talk this kind theory ooo. Na incaceration for life without parole those psycha doctors go give you!

grin grin grin
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Sambaby7640: 8:58am On Nov 15, 2018
400billionman:
God created man and gave him a free will. There are things in our lives we control resulting from our choices and external influences that we succumb to from friends family and neighbors, there are also outcomes we cannot control no matter how we try. Here we call upon God. The sun will shine or whether it will rain tomorrow. Whether you will make good sales tomorrow or hit gold. But the two strongest forces on earth are these FAITH and FEAR. Till you realize this truth you cannot control the outcome of events in your life. Your destiny is in your hand. 9O%, of our fears are non existent but only 1O% of us realize that. These 1O% control 9O% of the resources in the world through Faith.
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by budaatum: 10:07am On Aug 03, 2020
budaatum:
What woke you up this morning? Did something apart from you decide to get you up when you did? You might think not, that that something made you go to bed in the first place intending you to wake up when you did. So, which of your legs touched the ground first? And all the other choices you have made today, did that thing determine that too? Those choices are afterall what determined where you are right now, your destiny, at least to this minute.

Just think, gone are the days when it was god's will for some people to be captured, chained, shipped and enslaved to work for some master in a foreign land. It was for this purpose that god made them black, so they can be identified as beasts and worked as such by those who god made their master and designated with white skin. The destiny of black people was to be the slave, or at least, so went the thinking! Would you accept that if you had a say in the matter?

It's very easy for humans to give credit for their choices to the supernatural. Christianity specifically says "for Christ's sake", but I think it robs the individual of self worth. You will achieve things in life. You, will achieve those things, but you might be the sort that claims God done it. And that's okay I guess. Then your child will achieve something in life, but you will give the credit and praise to God, and not your child! But when another person is a bum on the street begging from you, you would hardly claim God put that person there, and God put you there to help them! Oh no, its the bums fault for begging at the gate but God's fault for the rich man in his mansion.

Not many steal from themselves the credit for their achievements and give it all to gods. You might think you do, and some actually really do. But all things considered, you know how much work you had to do to achieve what you achieved. You know how much effort was expended. So I advise you to give yourself some credit and pat yourself on the back, or at least give some credit to others. For even if it were true that the gods worked through you, you would have had to at least done some work to ensure the gods considered you worthy of being worked through in the first place!

Tagged: responsibility

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Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:44am On Aug 03, 2020
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.....BUT
BUT WHAT OF THE "DIVINE PLAN" ?

.......FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME, THE ALMIGHTY GOD ALREADY MADE A PLAN FOR HOW THE WORLD WILL BE FOREVER AND EVER, AND GOD NEVER CHANGES, WHAT HE SAYS WILL BE IS WHAT WILL ALWAYS BE.

.

There are always 2 types of Plans A Person Always creates; A Breakable and Flexible Plans vs Unbreakable and Fixed Plans!

Perfecion still remains intact and unassailable!
Re: Is Man's Destiny In Gods Hands Or Is It Man That Shapes His Own Destiny? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:56am On Aug 03, 2020
How many of you here do realise that Destiny refers to Destination?

And if Destination, which one of us has had full control in charting our diverse destinations from our birth?

And when we grow, surely you could choose your destination, but of your choices, which one was the best good for you?

The Mighty Difference Between The Lord and The-Wicked is that God only Applies Reasonable Permissible Pressure and Influences in your Choices but the-evil will Never Let Up (if you do not tell him to get out) Until You Choose his choice.

But when God leaves you alone, you will drive yourself, by yourself. And whatever you see, na you get am and na you go carry am!

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