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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by omojeesu(m): 9:02am On Aug 26, 2018
Omooba77:
So many people are confused and they think Christians worship three 'Gods'; God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Please what is your understanding of the Trinity?
Happy Sunday!

Trinity is the essence of God's Being.

That's why Man is also a triune being: Spirit, Soul and Body, since we are created in His Image

1 Thessalonians 5:23

And the very God of peace sanctify you WHOLLY; and I pray God your whole SPIRIT and SOUL and BODY be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In my personal quest to understand the Trinity, the Holy Spirit directed my thoughts to the SUN as a type of Trinity consisting of the Body, that is 93 million miles away, the Light and the Heat both of which reach us and we feel.

The Body stands for the Father who is not approachable:

1 Timothy 6:16

Who only hath immortality, DWELLING in the LIGHT WHICH NO MAN CAN APPROACH unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The Light is Jesus, the Son of the Father, who came to us.

The Heat is the Holy Spirit who penetrates what keeps the Light off.

Thank God, however, that salvation does not come by having a perfect understanding of the triune nature of God but by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ!

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by promise4wonders: 9:08am On Aug 26, 2018
bible scholars.I see u guys.trinity is one God.if u believe in Jesus Christ, u v also believed in God.
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by sapitolistic: 9:11am On Aug 26, 2018
The Bible’s answer
Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopædia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”

In fact, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages:

“Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 6:4.

“You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”—Psalm 83:18.

“This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”—John 17:3.

“God is only one.”—Galatians 3:20.

Why do most Christian denominations say that God is a Trinity?
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by sapitolistic: 9:19am On Aug 26, 2018
Compare these Bible verses: Matthew 26:39; John 14:28; 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28; Colossians 1:15, 16
To understand more about Trinity.
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Omooba77: 11:50am On Aug 26, 2018
omojeesu:


Trinity is the essence of God's Being.

That's why Man is also a triune being: Spirit, Soul and Body, since we are created in His Image

1 Thessalonians 5:23

And the very God of peace sanctify you WHOLLY; and I pray God your whole SPIRIT and SOUL and BODY be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In my personal quest to understand the Trinity, the Holy Spirit directed my thoughts to the SUN as a type of Trinity consisting of the Body, that is 93 million miles away, the Light and the Heat both of which reach us and we feel.

The Body stands for the Father who is not approachable:

1 Timothy 6:16

Who only hath immortality, DWELLING in the LIGHT WHICH NO MAN CAN APPROACH unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The Light is Jesus, the Son of the Father, who came to us.

The Heat is the Holy Spirit who penetrates what keeps the Light off.

Thank God, however, that salvation does not come by having a perfect understanding of the triune nature of God but by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ!

God bless you sir and May the Grace of Our Lord Jesus, the Love of God and Fellowship of the Holy Spirit be upon you, 2Corinthians 13:14
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by princely83(m): 4:52pm On Aug 26, 2018
imohchard:
The scripture is clear on this facts:
1. God, his name Yahweh or Jehovah is the supreme being. He has no superior, he has no EQUALS. he was never created.
2. Jesus Christ is God's son. He was created by Yahweh. He has powers, but his powers has limits, because he is not the almighty.
3. The holy Spirit is not a person. It's a force. The force God used in Creation and to do other things. Thing of it as God's power.
This all makes perfect sense. The scripture makes logical sense.
The concept of Trinity is a devilish doctrine by apostate christiandom to stain the clear and pure truth of the scriptures.


Come to think of it , who would want us to believe that God alone is not the all powerful? You guess right...The devil.

The propaganda of Trinity is from the devil himself.
Jehovah witness devotee spotted. There is only one God but in 3 persons. Your mortal and limited mind cannot understand a limitless and eternal being. There is no searching of His understanding( Isaiah 40:28). How can you even understand the bible you claim to know- the undiluted word of God if you don't have His Spirit . Without The Precious Holy Spirit, the words in the Bible is empty and without power. Remember the letter killet( 2Cor 3:4-6) and it is the Spirit that gives Life. The words of God are spirit and truth( John 6-63). If you keep limiting the Precious holy spirit to a mere force, you will not be able to see or experience His power in your life.

Isaiah 40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

The holy spirit is not a force but a full and independent Personality. He is a person with a will and mind of His own and power to do great things ( 1 cor 12-11, 1 Cor 2:10-11, Romans 8-2, john 16-13, isaiah 48-16) He is the Spirit of God the father and at the same time the spirit of God the son. You cannot understand the things of God with your carnal mind.
The created being cannot understand the creator. Remember Isaiah 45:9

Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Pray to God to open the eyes of understanding of your heart!!!
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 5:14pm On Aug 26, 2018
eezeribe:
If the Bible is supreme and infallible as most ignorant Christians claim...
Then what is the essence of different people having different understanding of a particular biblical concept...

It is called free WILL and individual OPINION of the same thing..emphasis on the same thing wink

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 5:19pm On Aug 26, 2018
sureheaven:
God the father....
God the Son and ....
God the Joly spirit.

Where did you see the phrase "God the Son" in the Bible

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 5:23pm On Aug 26, 2018
post=70617696:
GOD THE FATHER.
GOD THE SON.
GOD THE SPIRIT.

"God the Son" is inappropriate, also not found in the Bible.

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by MANNABBQGRILLS: 5:24pm On Aug 26, 2018
Maamin:


"God the Son" is inappropriate, also not found in the Bible.
Okay.
Noted.
Thank you.
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 5:43pm On Aug 26, 2018
[
quote author=easytouch030 post=70618098]Never be confuse about word Trinity.

The word in itself is confusion as define by the Nicean council

It just a concept and a single person acting in different capacity. Is like a man be a father to his children and son to his father and the same man a spirit after his departure.

A concept not supported in the scriptures. According to your analogy it is flawed, because the Father and Son can never be equal. Yet again the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the son according to triniterian teaching. Besides, Spirits returns to God after departure.


Jesus said in the book of John that He will send an holy spirit which will teach us everything. He also said holy spirit will no come until he goes.

The holy spirit is not another person but rather the power of God, and it is the power of the highest.

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 5:43pm On Aug 26, 2018
post=70630422:

Okay.
Noted.
Thank you.

wink

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 6:00pm On Aug 26, 2018
omojeesu:


Trinity is the essence of God's Being.

That's why Man is also a triune being: Spirit, Soul and Body, since we are created in His Image

1 Thessalonians 5:23

And the very God of peace sanctify you WHOLLY; and I pray God your whole SPIRIT and SOUL and BODY be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In my personal quest to understand the Trinity, the Holy Spirit directed my thoughts to the SUN as a type of Trinity consisting of the Body, that is 93 million miles away, the Light and the Heat both of which reach us and we feel.

The Body stands for the Father who is not approachable:

1 Timothy 6:16

Who only hath immortality, DWELLING in the LIGHT WHICH NO MAN CAN APPROACH unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The Light is Jesus, the Son of the Father, who came to us.

The Heat is the Holy Spirit who penetrates what keeps the Light off.

Thank God, however, that salvation does not come by having a perfect understanding of the triune nature of God but by faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ!

The trinity ideology claims they are co-equal and Co-eternal. But it is manifest through out the scripture that the Father is greater than all and there is none like him (God).
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by MuttleyLaff: 6:11pm On Aug 26, 2018
eezeribe:
If the Bible is supreme and infallible as most ignorant Christians claim...
Then what is the essence of different people having different understanding of a particular biblical concept...
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It shouldnt really matter the height, whether short or tall
Even whether you're lying down, sitting down or standing up too shouldnt matter
It is possible to see the same thing, if unable to, then do a Zacchaeus

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by omojeesu(m): 6:35pm On Aug 26, 2018
Maamin:


The trinity ideology claims they are co-equal and Co-eternal. But it is manifest through out the scripture that the Father is greater than all and there is none like him (God).

I am not bothered about theology.

Ultimately the knowledge comes by personal revelation from the Revealed Word:


Matthew 11:27

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

People can argue till eternity God remains who His word says He is. The important thing is to be saved whether or not you understand Trinity. That's where I stand.

Thank you.
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Maamin(m): 7:12pm On Aug 26, 2018
princely83
Jehovah witness devotee spotted. There is only one God but in 3 persons.

Deu.6:4 he is one, there is no but in three persons, just one.
Being a JW shouldn't be a stigma in the body of Christ. Not even all the Seven churches in the book of Revelation got it 100%.


Your mortal and limited mind cannot understand a limitless and eternal being. There is no searching of His understanding( Isaiah 40:28). How can you even understand the bible you claim to know- the undiluted word of God if you don't have His Spirit . Without The Precious Holy Spirit, the words in the Bible is empty and without power. Remember the letter killet( 2Cor 3:4-6) and it is the Spirit that gives Life. The words of God are spirit and truth( John 6-63). If you keep limiting the Precious holy spirit to a mere force, you will not be able to see or experience His power in your life.

Of course God is infinite and our finite mind will never comprehend all of him or His ways. But has he revealed himself to us? YES.

John 14:7 "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."

John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

It is through the power of God's holy spirit Jesus performed miracles on earth. The Spirit of God is not another person in trinity but rather a pure essence and breath of God Himself.


Isaiah 40:28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

That is why there is none like him or equal to him.

The holy spirit is not a force but a full and independent Personality. He is a person with a will and mind of His own and power to do great things ( 1 cor 12-11, 1 Cor 2:10-11, Romans 8-2, john 16-13, isaiah 48-16) He is the Spirit of God the father and at the same time the spirit of God the son. You cannot understand the things of God with your carnal mind.
The created being cannot understand the creator. Remember Isaiah 45:9

The Holy spirit is not a separate person, but God's mighty power.

Many scriptures refer to the Holy Spirit as the power of God (Zechariah 4:6; Micah 3:cool. Paul told Timothy that it is the “spirit of...power and of love and of a sound mind” (2 Timothy 1:7, emphasis added throughout). Luke 4:14 records that Jesus Christ began His ministry “in the power of the Spirit.” Luke 1:35 identifies the Holy Spirit with “the power of the Highest.” Speaking of the Holy Spirit, which would be given to His followers after His death, Jesus told them, “You shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you...” (Acts 1:cool. Peter relates how “God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, [and Jesus] went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him” (Acts 10:38). The Holy Spirit is here associated with the power by which God was with Him—the power through which Jesus Christ performed mighty miracles during His earthly, physical ministry. The Holy Spirit is the very presence of God’s power actively working in His servants. The apostle Paul’s desire was that the members of the Church in Rome would “abound in hope by the power of the Holy Spirit,” in the same way that Jesus Christ had worked through him “in mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God” (Romans 15:13, 19).

Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Pray to God to open the eyes of understanding of your heart!!!

Who in the Bible strive with God his maker, only Satan does that by trying to equate and make himself God and ascend high to God's throne. Even Christ the Son does not consider that position but humbles himself.

Trinity doctrine on the other hand is equating God into 3 parties.

May the Lord grant us more understanding

Shalom aleikhem!
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by melodyogonna(m): 12:46am On Aug 27, 2018
rekinomtla:


Get your facts right. You confusing the heresy of modalism with trinitarianism. Modalism says God is one person, trinitarism always maintains he is three.
No, he is only quoting passages from the Bible
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by rekinomtla(m): 4:37am On Aug 27, 2018
melodyogonna:

No, he is only quoting passages from the Bible

But is misunderstanding concepts. According to Seun the trinity is a "nifty concept that allows us to treat Jesus and God as the same person or as different people depending on which is more convenient." which is completely incorrect as the trinity maintains that Jesus and the Father are not the same person. The heresy of modalism says they are.
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Seun(m): 3:06pm On Aug 27, 2018
rekinomtla:
the trinity maintains that Jesus and the Father are not the same person. The heresy of modalism says they are.
How do you reconcile your view with the passages below?
“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!” Deuteronomy 4:4.

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.‘“ Mark 12:29.

Have you heard about the “heresy” of Tritheism?

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by rekinomtla(m): 4:28pm On Aug 27, 2018
Seun:

How do you reconcile your view with the passages below?
“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!” Deuteronomy 4:4.

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.‘“ Mark 12:29.

There's no need to reconcile my view with those passages as trinitarism affirms that there is only one God.

Have you heard about the “heresy” of Tritheism?

Yes, doctrine of three God's. The trinity posits only one God.
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by hammer6F: 5:44pm On Aug 27, 2018
rekinomtla:


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Thanks bro for your humble reply, i appreciate.

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As a nairalander, we have right too to debate whether or not we like Atiku, Seun is a business man.

U get wat i mean right?
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Seun(m): 5:45pm On Aug 27, 2018
rekinomtla:
There's no need to reconcile my view with those passages as trinitarism affirms that there is only one God.

Yes, doctrine of three God's. The trinity posits only one God.
So basically, God is not a person but a group of people. Like how the soccer players on a pitch can be 11 people but just one team? This means that every interaction “with God” is actually an interaction with one of the 3 people that make up “Team God”?

If so, why did God pretend to be a single person rather than a team of persons throughout the Old Testament and most of the New Testament? If the trinity is so fundamental to the nature of God, why is it not clearly explained in any of the 66 books that God allegedly inspired?

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Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by Omooba77: 6:10pm On Aug 27, 2018
Seun:
So basically, God is not a person but a group of people. Like how the soccer players on a pitch can be 11 people but just one team? This means that every interaction “with God” is actually an interaction with one of the 3 people that make up “Team God”?

If so, why did God pretend to be a single person rather than a team of persons throughout the Old Testament and most of the New Testament? If the trinity is so fundamental to the nature of God, why is it not clearly explained in any of the 66 books that God allegedly inspired?
God is Sovereign
Re: What Do You Understand By The Trinity? by rekinomtla(m): 6:10pm On Aug 27, 2018
Seun:
So basically, God is not a person but a group of people. Like how the soccer players on a pitch can be 11 people but just one team? This means that every interaction “with God” is actually an interaction with one of the 3 people that make up “Team God”?

If so, why did God pretend to be a single person rather than a team of persons throughout the Old Testament and most of the New Testament? If the trinity is so fundamental to the nature of God, why is it not clearly explained in any of the 66 books that God allegedly inspired?

Those are separate questions and irrelevant to the point I was making about your post earlier being inaccurate with regard to what trinitarianism is and what trinitarians believe.

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