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Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 8:51am On Aug 26, 2018
This kind of question comes from a very wrong assumption.

We assume that because some people are good therefore they do not deserve bad things.

We forget that life happens to everyone equally whether they are bad or good.

The rain and sun falls on everyone at equal intensity whether they are bad or good.

That is God for you.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by zinnydan(f): 8:54am On Aug 26, 2018
There's always a reason for something, God is all knowing and he knows his thoughts for us,a thought of good and not of evil to give us an expected end

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by frank317: 8:56am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
This kind of question comes from a very wrong assumption.

We assume that because some people are good therefore they do not deserve bad things.

We forget that life happens to everyone equally whether they are bad or good.

The rain and sun falls on everyone at equal intensity whether they are bad or good.

That is God for you.

What is God for u?

If u guys know that life happens to everyone equally whether they are good or bad, why then do preachers say he that dweleth in the secret place of the most high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Have you read ur bible to see all the goodie goodies promised to believers?
Are u saying the bible us lying?
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 8:57am On Aug 26, 2018
zinnydan:
There's always a reason for something, God is all knowing and he knows his thoughts for us,a thought of good and not of evil to give us an expected end
exactly!

I also think he allows good people to go through an undesirable process which will eventually make them strong.

For Christians, it makes their faith in God to be strong.

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by frank317: 8:58am On Aug 26, 2018
zinnydan:
There's always a reason for something, God is all knowing and he knows his thoughts for us,a thought of good and not of evil to give us an expected end

This is not what the op is saying... He is saying that Gods though of good and evil can happen to anyone whether they are good people or not.

That is God just spreads goodies and evil from above and it can touch anyone at random regardless of whether u are good or not
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 9:12am On Aug 26, 2018
frank317:


What is God for u?

If u guys know that life happens to everyone equally whether they are good or bad, why then do preachers say he that dweleth in the secret place of the most high shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. Have you read ur bible to see all the goodie goodies promised to believers?
Are u saying the bible us lying?
the promise to Christians is simple.

He that dweleth in the secret place of the most high in the light of christianity implies that, anyone who believes in christ has dweleth in the secret place of the most high, the promise to such person is eternal life.

Now, eternal life is something spiritual and not any physical benefits like every good things of life.

Christianity from the bible stand point did not promise every good things for it adherents like pastors are putting it.
It only promises eternal life, that's all

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by beatmonster(m): 9:25am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel

Does God (Christian God) allow good things to happen to bad people?

It is evident that how God (we have so many gods, about 4000) engages with this world is undefined
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by hopefulLandlord: 9:30am On Aug 26, 2018
Just in case
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 9:32am On Aug 26, 2018
beatmonster:
paxonel

Does God (Christian God) allow good things to happen to bad people?
infact, that is his will!
good things should happen to everyone always.

It is evident that how God (we have so many gods, about 4000) engages with this world is undefined
how is it undefined?

Because everything is defined in the scriptures
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:32am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
the promise to Christians is simple.

He that dweleth in the secret place of the most high in the light of christianity implies that, anyone who believes in christ has dweleth in the secret place of the most high, the promise to such person is eternal life.

Now, eternal life is something spiritual and not any physical benefits like every good things of life.

Christianity from the bible stand point did not promise every good things for it adherents like pastors are putting it.
It only promises eternal life, that's all

So the writers of the bible were telling lies when they wrote these things abi?


The LORD says, "I will rescue those who love me. I will protect those who trust in my name.

Psalm 91:14
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by enilove(m): 9:32am On Aug 26, 2018
OP, bad things can happen to anyone depending on how you live your life and the family you come from.

A good christian can experience bad things if he is not careful and not prayerful . Jesus told us in :

Luke 18:1 KJV
And he spake a parable unto them to this end , that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

For a good man who is not a Christians, bad things can befall him if he is careless or there is a curse operating in their family lineage , although he is a good man , that curse will allow evil to happen to him.

Prayers do avert evils. Being good or nice means you are an enemy to the powers that hate good people and good things. There are some wicked powers that love to see evil befalling people , community , nations etc.

That is my opinion.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:33am On Aug 26, 2018
beatmonster:
paxonel

Does God (Christian God) allow good things to happen to bad people?

It is evident that how God (we have so many gods, about 4000) engages with this world is undefined

THE ONLY THING KEEPING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE IN CHECK IS FEAR OF DEATH, THREAT OF HELL, AND PROMISES OF REWARDS IN HEAVEN WHEN THEY DIE.

IF NOT FOR THOSE THINGS, CHURCHES WILL BE EMPTY AND NOBODY WILL CARE ABOUT THEIR BIBLES.

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by penplus: 9:33am On Aug 26, 2018
I wondered about this too just this morning.

And the Holy Spirit led me to Mark15:17-25. Even CHRIST suffered for sins HE did not commit.

Be steadfast and hold onto GOD, trials don't last forever.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:35am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
This kind of question comes from a very wrong assumption.

We assume that because some people are good therefore they do not deserve bad things.

We forget that life happens to everyone equally whether they are bad or good.

The rain and sun falls on everyone at equal intensity whether they are bad or good.

That is God for you.

So your God is random, incoherent and a liar. All the places where he talks about protecting the righteous that believe in his name and call unto him and just empty lies abi? Continue.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by beatmonster(m): 9:39am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
infact, that is his will!
good things should happen to everyone always.
how is it undefined?

Because everything is defined in the scriptures

Everything is defined in the scriptures?

Gravity, Electricity, Magnetism, Chemical Reaction, Micro-Organism... pls show me where these are defined in your scriptures

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:44am On Aug 26, 2018
beatmonster:


Everything is defined in the scriptures?

Gravity, Electricity, Magnetism, Chemical Reaction, Micro-Organism... pls show me where these are defined in your scriptures

He meant anything spiritual mythological and fictional is defined inside the bible.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 9:49am On Aug 26, 2018
beatmonster:


Everything is defined in the scriptures?

Gravity, Electricity, Magnetism, Chemical Reaction, Micro-Organism... pls show me where these are defined in your scriptures
no!
These are all physical things.

God don't use all these physical things to engage the world.

God is a spirit

So, whoever he must engage must be through spirit and truth.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by bedspread: 9:50am On Aug 26, 2018
We are Made For His Pleasure and For His Pleasure Alone......
Whatever he wants to do , He does with us..
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by beatmonster(m): 9:51am On Aug 26, 2018
Dalamama:


He meant anything spiritual mythological and fictional is defined inside the bible.

grin Sorry for the misunderstanding grin
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 9:55am On Aug 26, 2018
Dalamama:


So your God is random, incoherent and a liar. All the places where he talks about protecting the righteous that believe in his name and call unto him and just empty lies abi? Continue.
grin grin grin grin grin

So, you actually believe in those lies along side with some Christians?

The scripture did not say that o.

Christians believing in christ do not ensures any protection o, christ is not babalawo.

The only thing christ ensures is eternal life. John 3:16
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by beatmonster(m): 9:56am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:

no!
These are all physical things.

God don't use all these physical things to engage the world.

God is a spirit

So, whoever he must engage must be through spirit and truth.

Physical things?

grin grin grin

At least we agree that most things weren't defined in the scriptures.

By the way, has God engaged you before in truth and spirit?
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 9:59am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:

no!
These are all physical things.

God don't use all these physical things to engage the world.

God is a spirit

So, whoever he must engage must be through spirit and truth.

You engaged God through spirit and truth and he told you that he doesn't protect the good people and allows bad thing to happen to them.

Pastor Biodun od COZA engages God through spirit and truth and God told him that he ALWAYS protects those who call unto his name for protection and won't allow anything bad to happen to them.

So who are we to believe with this your spirit and truth brouhaha, since it can not be measured in any way to determine it's veracity? Are you the one telling the truth or is it pastor Biodun?
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dantedasz(m): 9:59am On Aug 26, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVgZqnsytJI



Bad things happen to good people when Yahweh has a bet with the devil.
It's just Russian roulette

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:01am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
grin grin grin grin grin

So, you actually believe in those lies along side with some Christians?

The scripture did not say that o.

Christians believing in christ do not ensures any protection o, christ is not babalawo.

The only thing christ ensures is eternal life. John 3:16

It is NOT a lie because the passages are in the bible and spoken by God himself. Or was God lying when he said "The Lord is my Shepard I shall not want" Was God telling lies there?
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dantedasz(m): 10:02am On Aug 26, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1BzP1wr234







God works in a mysterious way.....
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:06am On Aug 26, 2018
God and his plans.

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Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 10:14am On Aug 26, 2018
Dalamama:


So the writers of the bible were telling lies when they wrote these things abi?


The LORD says, "I will rescue those who love me. I will protect those who trust in my name.

Psalm 91:14
yes, it was true that God miraculously intervened over issues he shouldn't have at the days of the old testament, simply because men were ignorant in that phase of human existence.

But in the new testament as men where getting understanding he stoped using those miracles to intervene .

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. (This was the days of the old testament when men uses these objects to worship)
17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at(overlooked); but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Overlooked in the sense that, he protected and gave people fortune miraculously,just to let them know that he is the true God, not those objects the people were worshiping ignorantly.

that was then

But today, he doesn't do things like that anymore.
Why?
Because people are now vast in knowledge and understanding.
Infact, there are technologies already developed to sensor intruders for personal protection.

So, we don't really need God for many things these days.
But we need him for our eternal life, that is what human knowledge and technology cannot offer.
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by frank317: 10:19am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
the promise to Christians is simple.

He that dweleth in the secret place of the most high in the light of christianity implies that, anyone who believes in christ has dweleth in the secret place of the most high, the promise to such person is eternal life.

Now, eternal life is something spiritual and not any physical benefits like every good things of life.

Christianity from the bible stand point did not promise every good things for it adherents like pastors are putting it.
It only promises eternal life, that's all
Hmmmmm.... Let me consult the bible
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 10:22am On Aug 26, 2018
Dalamama:


You engaged God through spirit and truth and he told you that he doesn't protect the good people and allows bad thing to happen to them.

Pastor Biodun od COZA engages God through spirit and truth and God told him that he ALWAYS protects those who call unto his name for protection and won't allow anything bad to happen to them.

So who are we to believe with this your spirit and truth brouhaha, since it can not be measured in any way to determine it's veracity? Are you the one telling the truth or is it pastor Biodun?
do you know how many Christians have died calling God at the time of distress such as accident?

What is the pastor Biodun talking about? grin
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:24am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
do you know how many Christians have died calling God at the time of distress such as accident?

What is the pastor Biodun talking about? grin

Do you know how many Christians he has prayed for that have received healing in his Church because he called the name of Jesus? What are you talking about?
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by Dalamama: 10:29am On Aug 26, 2018
paxonel:
yes, it was true that God miraculously intervened over issues he shouldn't have at the days of the old testament, simply because men were ignorant in that phase of human existence.

But in the new testament as men where getting understanding he stoped using those miracles to intervene .

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. (This was the days of the old testament when men uses these objects to worship)
17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at(overlooked); but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Overlooked in the sense that, he protected and gave people fortune miraculously,just to let them know that he is the true God, not those objects the people were worshiping ignorantly.

that was then

But today, he doesn't do things like that anymore.
Why?
Because people are now vast in knowledge and understanding.
Infact, there are technologies already developed to sensor intruders for personal protection.

So, we don't really need God for many things these days.
But we need him for our eternal life, that is what human knowledge and technology cannot offer.

He doesn't do like that anymore according who? You abi? Just yesterday a Christian here called Otipoju was telling us how a bird appeared to his grand mother and spoke to her telling her things that saved her life from ritualist and you are here saying God has stopped such. Even the bible said God is the same yesterday today and forever but you are telling us another thing. So all these guys are telling lies abi? grin
Re: Why Do God Allow Bad Things To Happen To Good People? by paxonel(m): 10:45am On Aug 26, 2018
Dalamama:


He doesn't do like that anymore according who? You abi? Just yesterday a Christian here called Otipoju was telling us how a bird appeared to his grand mother and spoke to her telling her things that saved her life from ritualist and you are here saying God has stopped such. Even the bible said God is the same yesterday today and forever but you are telling us another thing. So all these guys are telling lies abi? grin
it's true that God is the same, today and forever. But that principle do not apply in every aspect.

For instance, there was a time it repented God that he created man, this shows that God can still change his mind over certain issues at any given time and his new decision stands, no matter how hard we try to visit his position of the old times.

As for otipoju grin

Nor mind that African fictionist

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