PrecisionFx:




''Perhaps a good head just left.''

Stop deceiving urself.



Forget all those technicaities, They are useless in the face of the law.

She simply forged a document which she should never have done considering her background n considering that she is much more civilized than the average nigerian because of her exposure while living in the u.k for decades.

Throwback:


Dude all that you know about NYSC is because you were resident in Nigeria and schooled in Nigeria or abroad.

The Nigerian who was born American or Briton, does not know anything about your NYSC within the American or British society.

So there are many Americans and Britons of Nigerian heritage who have graduated early and proceeded to secure jobs in their foreign society that they know as home.

If any circumstances make them begin to associate with Nigeria in their adult years and obtain a Nigerian passport due to their heritage, are telling me you will be asking them why they did not come and serve in a Nigeria that was not their country or society at the time they were living their distant life in UK or USA with their family?

I repeat, that the mistake Adeosun made was even bothering to enquire about getting any exemption from NYSC.

Even those who are known to have had patents resident in Nigeria and even had part of their own education in Nigeria, went abroad for studies and never looked back as per NYSC, only to take government jobs later on and never resigned when it became news that they never serve or got NYSC exemption.

Adeosun should have just disregarded NYSC altogether. Her nationality and residential circumstances at the time she was young enough to qualify for NYSC in a far away foreign Nigeria, would have been enough waiver to hold on to whatever government office she might have been in charge of.

Throwback:



Are you too daft to understand what she wrote in her resignation? Or did you read that she left Nigeria as a teenager to go study in a university abroad, thereby necessitating the customary return to Nigeria that only exist in your own imagination?


She only visited Nigeria with her British passport on occasions. She was never a resident of Nigeria until she was 34yrs. Till today, her parents still reside in the UK where she was born.

Her interests in Nigeria only began long after she had passed the age to serve. Many Nigerians born and resident in the UK have graduated below the age of 30yrs, yet they do not come to Nigeria for any NYSC because they do not have any business with Nigeria besides visiting when a grandparent died or a cousin was wedding.

That they do not have any interest with Nigeria now does not mean they might not show an interest later.

These are the same type of Nigerians that are daily celebrated here on this forum, as working with Google or Facebook or NASA or the White House. Nigerians in the diaspora, like the ones that were on hand to receive the vice president when he visited Google in the US. Nigerians that don't even know that anything called NYSC exist as it remains irrelevant to them, until the day they decide they want to be Nigerians and not American or Briton.


So by default she made enquires about securing an exemption, and one was certainly obtained through her associates from NYSC but fake. It was not obtained under the bridge at Obalende. It was certainly obtained from NYSC officials who gave a document that was not the legitimate issue.


Many Nigerians currently hold particulars that they think is legitimate having been obtained at the legitimate relevant government office, yet they are invalid.

safarigirl:
ignoranxe is not an excuse before the law.

Even the drivers license obtained illegally, anyone who is caught will be arrested and prosecuted, nobody cares who bought it for you or whatever. The law is the law.

It is very foolish to support forgery of any kind simply because it has become a norm in the society. These are the small things that are overlooked in this country that drag us down continuously.


She submitted herself for a position in public office and ought to have been fully sure of everything she had. Once again, ignorance is not an excuse before the law..... But since Nigeria is a lawless nation, anything goes

Throwback:


Dude all that you know about NYSC is because you were resident in Nigeria and schooled in Nigeria or abroad.

The Nigerian who was born American or Briton, does not know anything about your NYSC within the American or British society.

So there are many Americans and Britons of Nigerian heritage who have graduated early and proceeded to secure jobs in their foreign society that they know as home.

If any circumstances make them begin to associate with Nigeria in their adult years and obtain a Nigerian passport due to their heritage, are telling me you will be asking them why they did not come and serve in a Nigeria that was not their country or society at the time they were living their distant life in UK or USA with their family?

I repeat, that the mistake Adeosun made was even bothering to enquire about getting any exemption from NYSC.

Even those who are known to have had patents resident in Nigeria and even had part of their own education in Nigeria, went abroad for studies and never looked back as per NYSC, only to take government jobs later on and never resigned when it became news that they never serve or got NYSC exemption.

Adeosun should have just disregarded NYSC altogether. Her nationality and residential circumstances at the time she was young enough to qualify for NYSC in a far away foreign Nigeria, would have been enough waiver to hold on to whatever government office she might have been in charge of.

naijapips04:


Dude she's not entitled to any exemption certificate. She graduated before 30. Stop trying to deceive people.

Throwback:



Why should one be prosecuted for an illegal license that was legally obtained?

Why should the law abiding Nigerian be punished for the corruption that is perpetrated in a government office?

If she wasn't sure, she wouldn't have submitted the document. She never claimed she served. She got an exemption she thought was legitimate.

It wasn't an exemption that was dated to hide when she got it. She should have simply been told that she did not qualify at all for the said exemption.

I do not support any forgery of any kind and should never be the norm. Most especially, the civil servants in the government offices that engage in such should all be apprehended.

Throwback:
you don’t need to insult anyone here and I just want you to understand that she is human and she can also lie ...: why haven’t they located the person who helped her to get the certificate.i just want you to know there is always two side to every story


Are you too daft to understand what she wrote in her resignation? Or did you read that she left Nigeria as a teenager to go study in a university abroad, thereby necessitating the customary return to Nigeria that only exist in your own imagination?


She only visited Nigeria with her British passport on occasions. She was never a resident of Nigeria until she was 34yrs. Till today, her parents still reside in the UK where she was born.

Her interests in Nigeria only began long after she had passed the age to serve. Many Nigerians born and resident in the UK have graduated below the age of 30yrs, yet they do not come to Nigeria for any NYSC because they do not have any business with Nigeria besides visiting when a grandparent died or a cousin was wedding.

That they do not have any interest with Nigeria now does not mean they might not show an interest later.

These are the same type of Nigerians that are daily celebrated here on this forum, as working with Google or Facebook or NASA or the White House. Nigerians in the diaspora, like the ones that were on hand to receive the vice president when he visited Google in the US. Nigerians that don't even know that anything called NYSC exist as it remains irrelevant to them, until the day they decide they want to be Nigerians and not American or Briton.


So by default she made enquires about securing an exemption, and one was certainly obtained through her associates from NYSC but fake. It was not obtained under the bridge at Obalende. It was certainly obtained from NYSC officials who gave a document that was not the legitimate issue.


Many Nigerians currently hold particulars that they think is legitimate having been obtained at the legitimate relevant government office, yet they are invalid.

ehissi:


False!! She sought to get a job immediately she came back to naija - check her daily diaries on he internet - plus she worked as commissioner of finance in ogun state. She was interviewed severally and serially in between job hunts till Ibikunle called her.

There is no way she would not have been told. When my Aunt was invited/taken on loan to serve in a sensitive position in FCMB, a woman who does not have WAEC, she schooled and lived all her days abroad, from Bsc to her MBA at the Prestigious Kelloggs busines school, they asked her for her NYSC Certificate during her briefing/interview, she said she didn't need one and there, there they told to go and serve.

She mentioned age, they mentioned law and that was how she had to go squeeze her big yansh put for inside khaki.

Stop all this trash, she knew. She cannt claim that she was oblivious from that time till no that it was fake. Stop all these sentimentally higgy hagga

Throwback:



Why should one be prosecuted for an illegal license that was legally obtained?

Why should the law abiding Nigerian be punished for the corruption that is perpetrated in a government office?

If she wasn't sure, she wouldn't have submitted the document. She never claimed she served. She got an exemption she thought was legitimate.

It wasn't an exemption that was dated to hide when she got it. She should have simply been told that she did not qualify at all for the said exemption.

I do not support any forgery of any kind and should never be the norm. Most especially, the civil servants in the government offices that engage in such should all be apprehended.

Throwback:



Interesting feedback.

So are you saying anyone who qualified to serve at the age of their university graduation, are still legitimately allowed to be mobilised for NYSC even when they are already adults?

Is that arrangement allowed as per NYSC statutes?

All I have been harping about is her circumstances being a Briton living in her foreign society where she had no business with NYSC then. This same circumstance is still prevalent with many foreigners of Nigerian heritage, who may someday want to associate with their Nigerian roots and work with the Nigerian government in public office.

Kayharry:
From @alibabagcfr - Many people are getting the Kemi Adeosun NYSC matter wrong. She did not claim to have served. She came back to Nigeria when she had passed the age to serve. She was then advised to get a certificate of exemption. She did not think it was necessary because, clearly she had passed the age.

Then someone advised her to get it. Someone said, since she did not serve, BECAUSE SHE WAS OVER THE AGE TO SERVE, all she needed was the certificate of exemption. They went and got it for her. The person who did, SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN HER A LEGIT ONE. She didn't need to be present to get an exemption. So, it's not that she claimed to have served and was issued a certificate for service she did not render. Many people have insurance cover and driving licence that they did not go through a proper driving test to get.

How about Yellow fever vaccine card? Do you know how many people pick up their yellow fever card at the airport, only to reach destination and are told it's fake. I have talked with some people in the corridors of power. The certificate is not the real reason she resigned. It's the reason given. It's election year. Just like #NOI... There are people who want access to certain federal funds, that only she has access to. And like #NOI, she will not play ball. The best way is to discredit her, and put her out of the office, and by that move now let someone who will dance to their tune. ITS ELECTION SEASON YALL. It happened to @sanusilamidosanusi. QED

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vingeophysicist:

This is the main reason why Nigeria will never move forward until thy kingdom come. You are very biased in your analysis. Don't allow political, ethnic or religious affiliation to becloud your reasoning. Ignorance is never a tangible reason to disobey the law. Moreover, someone, as educated as Adeosun, should even be ashamed of herself for allowing NYSC official to swindle her .what's the need of her schooling in united kingdom if she could not decipher an ordinary illegitimate certificate.someone that claim to have studied finance in the UK cannot carry out forensic study on an ordinary certificate, how can that person be given the mandate to manage the whole country's finance. If this condition holds true it means she is incapable of managing Nigeria finance and it pragmatically obvious that her ascension to being a finance minister is clearly political.
If you are really updated with Nigerians News you will know that the Nigerian journalist that discovered this mess also enunciated that the Senate has been using this weakness to blackmail her. if you are very realistic about your judgement you will agree with me that what the journalist said was absolutely true. Okay, let's say when she was working for Osun state government she never knew about the forged certificate. Are you telling me after her appointment in the federal sector she never discovered about it? The federal sector where witch hunting and political pre-intimacy is at its apex.it's obvious she discovered about this during her reign as the finance minister but her greed to relinquish her position was greater.
My dear in a sane country she should have been jailed by now. But she is under the protection of our almighty upright president. This was the same thing we complained about Jonathan regime but it's playing out again. I only pray a reasonable leader comes on board to deliver this country.we are absolutrly tired of PDP and APC.Infact we need total restructuring .

obi58:


It's you that is too daft to understand the NYSC law which is quite explicit in stating that provided you're Nigerian and finished school under 30, it is mandatory to serve.

You only obtain a certificate of exemption if you finish over 30.

Living outside the shores of the country all your life does not exclude you from the dictates of the law. After all, Ignorance is no excuse for contravention of the law. So even if she made an honest mistake due to wrong advice that doesn't absolve her of guilt.

The discussion now should be towards reviewing the NYSC law for situations as this but as the law stands now, provided she wanted to serve in public office in Nigeria and not private practice, she should have served.

Yes she did the right thing today resign, albeit late but should go one step further to return all monies she has earned in public office using this fake certificate.

As for those who it is rumoured have engineered this scandal for political gains, the onus is on EFCC and the DSS to assiduously work to investigate these claims and if confirmed mercilessly expose and prosecute the perpetrators.

Throwback:



The only bias I have betrayed here is a bias towards the circumstances of the Nigerian in the diaspora.

Many who have bothered to reply my post here seem to think that the NYSC is so important to the daily living of the Nigerian who knows US or Europe as their home or society, talkless of those who were actually born abroad and lived all their lives there.

NYSC only becomes relevant when they opt to associate with Nigeria that was previously just a holiday destination for family engagements and functions.

So we as Nigerians need to understand and be rational in analysing such circumstances. This is not a defence of forgery, and that is why I even fault her for even bothering to enquire about something that ought to be an irrelevant forgotten past, that should not matter as regards her Nigerianess that she embraced in adulthood.

Many are faulting her that why didn't she come back to serve when she graduated as though she deliberately hid from Nigeria, that was of no significance to her life then.

In fact, some have painted a picture of criminality when an American or Briton or German who is Nigerian only by ancestral heritage, refuses to come to Nigeria (that they may have never visited before) to serve in the NYSC scheme.

That is the perspective I and Alibaba have tried to bring to the fore. The perspective of the American or Briton that might one day return to his/her heritage, while the irrational Nigerian mob chorus, "why didn't you come to serve NYSC when you graduated from the University of Munich or Stanford 20yrs ago when you were 22yrs old?".

naijapips04:


NOT legally obtained. No NYSC staff would give you exemption if you'd graduated before 30. We still have a long way to go in Nigeria if we have young agile men like you defending crimiminals simply because they come from your tribe.

Throwback:


The legally obtained statement is as regards the driver's license she referenced, which many have unwittingly found themselves in such mess and voiced out here.

I am not defending Adeosun for being from my tribe, I am defending her circumstances that applies to many Nigerians in the diaspora.

And I still fault her for bothering about the NYSC exemption to begin with.

naijapips04:


IF they like they should return from Mars. Any day they choose to return, they must give Nigeria One year of unalloyed service. That is what the law says.

resurgent2019:


You are wrong. It is hausa that don’t want dismemberment.

We have discussed it so many times and it is even obvious. You just keep including Yorubas to make yourself feel good.

The average Yoruba is Indifferent about unity or dismemberment. He just wants things to go well within his region.

Please don’t ever repeat this lie again and kindly face up north with your secession issue/worries.

Throwback:


I understand your own perspective regarding serving whenever they did return, if the NYSC statutes legitimately allows that, as opposed to some under the table setup that some might be engaging in only to also later discover it is just a ruse also.

But anger is with the attitude of Nigerians who are voicing that a "diasporan" ought to have returned to Nigeria to serve in NYSC at that time they graduated in their foreign society.

ojialo:
na to tell you say Nairaland don dey turn to 2go where kids go dey vomit shit for mouth anyhow.

naijapips04:


Her Exemption certificate is not Legally obtained! Face the facts man. No NYSC staff would give anybody exemption, if the age on your certificate is reading below 30.

You are defending a criminal merely because she comes from your tribe. Face it.

If this had been an Ebere or Chioma, trust me you won't be spewing all these trash.

Throwback:



Are you too daft to understand what she wrote in her resignation? Or did you read that she left Nigeria as a teenager to go study in a university abroad, thereby necessitating the customary return to Nigeria that only exist in your own imagination?


She only visited Nigeria with her British passport on occasions. She was never a resident of Nigeria until she was 34yrs. Till today, her parents still reside in the UK where she was born.

Her interests in Nigeria only began long after she had passed the age to serve. Many Nigerians born and resident in the UK have graduated below the age of 30yrs, yet they do not come to Nigeria for any NYSC because they do not have any business with Nigeria besides visiting when a grandparent died or a cousin was wedding.

That they do not have any interest with Nigeria now does not mean they might not show an interest later.

These are the same type of Nigerians that are daily celebrated here on this forum, as working with Google or Facebook or NASA or the White House. Nigerians in the diaspora, like the ones that were on hand to receive the vice president when he visited Google in the US. Nigerians that don't even know that anything called NYSC exist as it remains irrelevant to them, until the day they decide they want to be Nigerians and not American or Briton.


So by default she made enquires about securing an exemption, and one was certainly obtained through her associates from NYSC but fake. It was not obtained under the bridge at Obalende. It was certainly obtained from NYSC officials who gave a document that was not the legitimate issue.


Many Nigerians currently hold particulars that they think is legitimate having been obtained at the legitimate relevant government office, yet they are invalid.

CROWNWEALTH019:
Mumu wan defend kemi thinking she would open legs for him