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Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 7:05am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Cc seun , coolusername , plaetton , Hahn , happypagan , kingebukasblog , johnnydon22 Is the argument from Jewish exceptionalism valid, seeing as the Jews are vastly over represented in every field and yahweh promised to make them a great people . |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by hisgrace090: 7:06am On Oct 07, 2018 |
The answer is "yes" |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by Masama: 7:10am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Yahweh exists, only fools say there is no God 1 Like |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by hahn(m): 9:59am On Oct 07, 2018 |
urahara: I could also say that the holocaust is also evidence of the existence of Yahweh since it stood by and watched as hundreds of thousands of Jews were killed by the Nazis Bubu long time o 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 10:09am On Oct 07, 2018 |
hahn: Oga Hahn , longest time Where you dey all this while |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by Liveair: 11:05am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Truth is that there is absolutely nothing exceptional about the Jews. They are like any other race known to man. They have faced what other races have faced and have recorded successes too, but nothing special. There have been greater African races than the Jewish race. You only believe such nonsense if you take the bible as infallible and undiluted history, which it isn't. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by hahn(m): 11:10am On Oct 07, 2018 |
urahara: Business business business |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by LordReed(m): 11:15am On Oct 07, 2018 |
Hmmm I guess Allah must also be the true god since everyday you use Arabic numerals. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 11:44am On Oct 07, 2018 |
LordReed: That doesn't gel at all |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by LordReed(m): 11:58am On Oct 07, 2018 |
urahara: What doesn't gel? How do you think Arabic numerals became what you use today? |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 12:22pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
LordReed: 1 . Arabs didnt invent Arabic numerals.it was invented by Hindu mathematicans. 2. I'm not talking about mere invention of numbers . I'm talking about being the pillars of the world . Governing every sphere to the extent that scientists carry out genetic tests to find out the reasons of their success. |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by Martinez19(m): 12:58pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
hahn:The Brazilian success in world football is a sign that the indigenous Brazilian gods are the true gods. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by LordReed(m): 1:54pm On Oct 07, 2018 |
urahara: Who popularized it? Where did Europeans encounter and adopt it from? You can argue all you want but this Jewish exceptionalism is a myth propagated by their central mythology book in other to maintain a mystique. Same way lawyers use Latin words to maintain their status as interpreters of the law. There is nothing special about Jewish people just as there is nothing special about our Igbo brothers, they simply apply themselves to their fields of endeavour and excel. Abi is Amadioha also proven to exist by "Igbo exceptionalism"? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by hahn(m): 9:50am On Oct 08, 2018 |
Martinez19: The success of corrupt Nigerian political leaders to continuously loot public funds and still get worshiped by the masses is a sign that Allah and Jehovah are the true gods 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by plaetton: 11:46am On Oct 08, 2018 |
urahara:Nonsense |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by plaetton: 12:15pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
LordReed: In some parts of Igboland , we had the Osu caste system. The Osu were supposedly dedicated to gods, so lived in vast tracks of land dedicated to various deities. Now, when the missionaries came , the Osu were the first to convert to Christianity and the first receive western education. Thereupon, they became the first lawyers, doctors, engineers , etc. Now, armed with western education and vast tracks of uncontested tracks of land, the Osu became the first set of wealthy and educated elites in Igboland and long thereafter. Now, with the op's logic, we can also infer that Osu exceptionalism can be attributed to their custodian deities to whom they were dedicated to in those precolonial days. The Jews share a similar history. In Europe, the jews were persecuted and excluded from the nobility. There were not allowed to be part of trade guilds. To survive, the engaged in everyday petty trading, taking advantage of every demand opportunities in buying and selling. Thereafter, they became the merchant class if Europe. And as with societies, the merchant class is the wealthy class. While still discriminated and excluded from certain occupations, they continued to build critical mass in trading. Saturated with accumulated wealth, they went into moneylending and goldsmithing. As anyone who knows the origins and history of banking can understand, this gave them enormous power and leverage everywhere they were. Soon , they were banking for the Vatican, kings and princes of Europe, lending them money, with interests, to fund their sectarian wars. And lest I forget to mention, they jews were the first to adopt formal education as a necessity. So , its easy to see how persecution from Christian Europe nurtured and sustained Jewish survival and exceptionalism to the modern day. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by naijapage(f): 12:51pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
When i was at Alleluia Ministries International yesterday , One old pastor asked this same Question |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by LordReed(m): 12:54pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
plaetton: Thank you. People are too quick to attribute human effort to divine influence. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by PastorAIO: 1:03pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
To put it more accurately, ..... Usury was a sin in Europe in the medieval days. Christians were not allowed to lend money with interest charges. Jews too, according to judaism, were not allowed to lend money at interest to each other. But there was an exception afforded to the Jews. They were allowed to lend money to foreigners at interest. This is how Jews came to dominate the Banking sector. Deutoronomy 23:19-20 9Do not charge your brother interest on money, food, or any other type of loan. 20You may charge a foreigner interest, but not your brother, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything to which you put your hand in the land you are entering to possess Since Europe's expanding economy needed loans and christians were not allowed to lend to each other, the europeans turned to the Jews who were allowed in their religion to lend to foreigners. Even though Europeans attacked Jews and wouldn't let them get involved in most other trades they allowed them to do Finance. It so happens that that was the most powerful aspect of any economy that was handed to the Jews. as plaetton: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by PastorAIO: 1:16pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
It is important to add that most Jews are not wealthy and are not dominant in their fields of endeavour. And also there are a massive amount of Jews leading in intellectual fields (Einstein Freud Spinoza etc) in the last couple of centuries but this has not always been the case. Throughout most of history the Jews were under the thumb of their neighbours. The Egyptians dominated them. The assyrians dominated them, the Babylonians and the Persians dominated them. The Romans scattered them. If it was genetic or a matter of god favouring them them then we would see a consistency throughout history of their dominance. What we should do is study what factors apply in their lives over the last couple of centuries that has enabled them to rise to the top of many fields. I would suggest they have a very strong Asabiyyah and the tendency to invest in their own population. This is a very major key to the supremacy of any racial group. On the other hand if you would want to find a people who have consistently been the most advanced population on earth for many thousands of years then you need look no further than the Chinese peoples. It is only in the last 200 years that they were over taken by Europe and it seems that now they are returning back on top. Is this evidence of the truth of the Chinese Gods? Or are there non mythological factors that we can point to? Why did they fall behind? Studying this may help us to understand why people who fall behind (africans) in general fall behind. Could it be a parochial attitude that crept into Chinese thinking? Look at Africans. Are we not arguably the most parochial people on the planet today? 16 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by plaetton: 1:34pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
PastorAIO:Thank you Sire, as always, for your enlightened and much more elaborate explanation. 1 Like |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by PastorAIO: 2:26pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
How many of the exceptional Jews are Atheists? Isn't it odd that as more Jews become atheist the better they seem do in life? 3 Likes |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by LordReed(m): 2:51pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Quite enlightening. |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 4:01pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
plaetton: |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by OtemAtum: 4:04pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
What's the success of the Jews? Fighting wars and hating surrounding lands? I don't see that as success at all, rather, it's failure on their part. |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 4:28pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
PastorAIO: True. It's also odd that only the Ashkenazi Jews perform amazing feats . The ethopian Jews are rated poorly amongst all the Jews. Yahwehs promise , if true , would have been for the black Jews too. 4 Likes |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by PastorAIO: 6:07pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
urahara: Have you heard that story that the Ashkenazi are in fact from the Ukraine region. An ancient kingdom called Khazaria. The information is very scanty and I've heard fierce opposition to the story too. Apparently these people converted to Judaism en masse. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by urahara(m): 6:11pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
PastorAIO: This theory has been thorughly debunked.even dna analysis has debunked that. The Ashkenazi are descended from the middle East 1 Like |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by PastorAIO: 9:39pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
urahara: Okay, I didn't know that. 1 Like |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by KraticKratus: 9:52pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
But why is Yahweh hiding? |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by Nobody: 11:28pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
urahara:Can you provide evidence/ reference to this? |
Re: Could Jewish Success Be Evidence Of The Existence Of Yahweh by doubledx9ja(m): 4:50am On Oct 09, 2018 |
hahn: Ofcourse! Infact, their capitivity in Egpyt and Babylon was also evidence of Yahweh! Isaiah 45:7 “I form light and create darkness, I make goodness and create disaster. I am the Lord, who does all these things. Hebrews 12:6-11 For the Lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child. Then here comes one of Yahweh's promises for obedience =<> Exodus 23:22 But if you shall indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy to your enemies, and an adversary to your adversaries. |
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