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Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Islie: 12:59pm On Oct 15, 2018
by Jamilah Nasir



Mathew Kukah, Catholic bishop of Sokoto diocese, has explained how he convinced ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo to reconcile with Atiku Abubabar, former vice-president.

Obasanjo had on Thursday played host to Kukah, Ahmad Gumi, a Kaduna-based Islamic cleric; and David Oyedepo, founder of Living Faith Church Worldwide, and some top politicians and civil rights activists at his hill-top residence in Abeokuta, Ogun state.

The ex-president, during the occasion announced his endorsement of Abubakar as his preferred candidate for the 2019 presidential election, saying he has forgiven his former deputy.

Criticisms had trailed the visit, with many accusing the religious leaders of swimming in the mud of politics.

Oyedepo has since absolved himself of the criticisms, saying his presence during the meeting was that of a mediator.

Kukah followed suit in a wordy statement, to explain his role in the meeting. Both Oyedepo and Kukah said they received no financial tipping from any politician.

Kukah said he only went to Obasanjo’s residence to complete the reconciliation agenda which he had been pursuing for years.

He expressed delight that the meeting took place, saying he remained eternally grateful to God.

According to him, he had planned for the meeting to be between just the three of them, but his host requested the presence of other parties, a plan he says he was not comfortable with.

“I was not interested in the politics of reconciliation but the spiritual angle. Although trying to reconcile President Obasanjo and Alhaji Atiku Abubakar was something I had been working on intermittently in the last few years, nothing could have prepared me for the way things finally shaped up,” Kukah said.

“My focus all along had been with President Obasanjo and I had never brought Alhaji Abubakar into what I was doing. Quite fortuitously, a chance meeting changed the tide in favour of reconciliation.

“I am therefore very clear about the boundaries, the slippery slopes and the contexts. Unlike Shaikh Gumi and Rev. Oyedepo who were invited to this event, I am a central actor.”


Read the full statement below

I have deliberately made this explanatory note long because I think it is necessary that people make up their minds based on the facts, given my central role in the event. I note that Sheikh Gumi has already told his own side of the story. I feel obliged to state my own side so that Nigerians can have a clearer picture of my own involvement. Sadly, I personally did not read President Obasanjo’s statement until two days later on the Internet since I was not physically in the hall.

Although trying to reconcile President Obasanjo and Alhaji Atiku Abubakar was something I had been working on intermittently in the last few years, nothing could have prepared me for the way things finally shaped up. My focus all along had been with President Obasanjo and I had never brought Alhaji Abubakar into what I was doing. Quite fortuitously, a chance meeting changed the tide in favour of reconciliation.

Understandably, the pictures of the four of us (President Obasanjo, Alhaji Abubakar, Shaikh Gumi and I) literally lit up the social media and elicited divergent reactions from the general public. Although over 99% of the reactions that have come to me have been largely those of commendation, with people focusing, rightly, on the reconciliation, there have been others whose focus has been on an isolated development that had absolutely nothing to do with what I had in mind all these years, namely, the endorsement.

I must say that I am eternally grateful to God that this reconciliation finally happened. The focus of attention has been on the endorsement of Alhaji Abubakar by President Obasanjo, a development that I can call the third leg of the process which I initiated. I am not sure of President Obasanjo’s other interlocutors after we agreed to meet leading to the participation of other actors and so, I will only clear the air on what I can take full responsibility for.

Let me state first that I am a priest of the Catholic Church and by the grace of God, a Bishop. I have more than a passing knowledge of our discipline and doctrine in matters relating to the role of a Catholic priest in political engagement. My doctoral thesis was on Religion and Politics in
Nigeria. So, this is an area that I have written and spoken extensively about for over thirty years.

I am therefore very clear about the boundaries, the slippery slopes and the contexts. Unlike Shaikh Gumi and Rev. Oyedepo who were invited to this event, I am a central actor. So let me explain what really happened.

On Tuesday, October 9th, 2018 I had the honor of being the Guest Speaker for the annual Conference of the Four Square Gospel Church in Alagomeji, Lagos. (The Presidential Spokesman, Femi Adesina, a member of this Church, had first invited me some years back but I could not honour the invitation). President Obasanjo was the Chairman of the occasion. At the end of the lecture, he indicated that he would have to leave because he had a scheduled meeting.

I told him I needed to see him briefly and he obliged. I brought up again the issue of what he thought of his reconciliation with Alhaji Atiku. My last discussion with him this year was either January or February.

His response was still negative and he told me what he later told the media. I reminded him that I was not interested in the politics of reconciliation but the spiritual angle.

After all, I said to him, ‘as a Christian, this is an important thing for you to do’. He was quiet and then said he would speak with me later that evening on his final decision. We parted, he to his car and I returned to the Church to end the event.

At about 9pm the same Tuesday, he called to say that he had thought over the issues I had raised and finally decided to accept my suggestion and that yes, he would be happy to reconcile with Alhaji Abubakar.

When did he think we could meet then, I asked him? He said he would look at his diary and get back to me later. Then, just before 11pm the same Tuesday, I received another call from him saying his diary was full, that the earliest date for him was October 21st. I accepted happily and told him that I would try and reach Alhaji Abubakar either directly, or through his aides to convey the news.

My initial intention had been to return to Abuja that same evening from Lagos, but my hosts at the Four Square Gospel had suggested that I should get some rest. Next morning, Wednesday October 10th, after I had finished celebrating the Holy Mass, I received a call from President Obasanjo: ‘Bishop, listen, I have changed my mind’.

My heart nearly sank, but before I could ask why, he said: ‘Let us do it tomorrow if you can reach Atiku. I am going to deliver a lecture in Ife and will be back home before 1pm. So, tell him to come at 1pm’. I started frantic efforts to reach Alhaji Atiku without luck. I reached one of his aides, Paul Ibe, and asked him to please let him know I am trying to reach him. Finally, at about 1pm, I received a call from him. I told him what had happened with President Obasanjo. He agreed and said he would be in Abeokuta for 1pm on Thursday.

I got back to my hosts, the Four Square Gospel Church to tell them about the change in my travelling plans especially as I had no car to take me to Abeokuta. I didn’t want to ask President Obasanjo’s people to send me a vehicle because I believed I needed a leeway of independence and trust.

My hosts were exceedingly gracious in making a vehicle available, a driver and an aide to take me to Abeokuta. Earlier that morning, President Obasanjo had called me a second time and told me that he wanted Alhaji Abubakar to come with the Chairman of the PDP, and two or three others. He also told me he had also invited both Shaikh Gumi and Rev. Oyedepo. This was welcome news- Rev. Oyedepo is a kinsman of his, and the presence of Shaikh Gumi made sense.

I was a bit nervous, seeing that the circle was getting larger for something I thought was between three of us.I arrived Abeokuta about 12.15pm ahead of both President Obasanjo and Alhaji Abubakar and his team. Alhaji Abubakar and his team arrived, and then I saw more and more people coming in.

I saw familiar faces of different people who turned out to be the leaders of Afenifere. All these years, whenever I brought up this matter of reconciliation, my idea has always been for the three of us to sit down together. I still believed that the meeting would be between the two of them and the three religious leaders.

When President Obasanjo appeared, I walked up to him and said I wanted to know the protocol for the meeting. He suggested that we would meet in a hall and that I should say a few words about how we got here. I declined because it seemed again that at this point, we were in small forest of politics and I had no wish to be caught in it.
I was happy that what I wanted to achieve had been achieved, namely, getting these two men to put the past behind them. My personal preoccupation was a pastoral one, and not a political one. I was uncomfortable with this and I decided to make my position clear. I offered a different proposal to help us sift the moral grain from the chaff of politics via a three-step process so as to insulate the three of us from the political fallout.

I proposed that the first step would be for he and Alhaji Abubakar to sit down behind closed doors, sort out their issues and then the next step would be for both Sheikh Gumi and I to go in and listen to the two of them as Rev. Oyedepo had not arrived.

After that, I said, they could continue with the third phase which from what I could see was high wire politics and I had no wish to be caught in the web. After they both finished their brief meeting, Sheikh Gumi and I went in and sat down with the two of them.

We had some small briefing and then both of us spoke briefly on what they had done, encouraging them to ensure that this reconciliation holds. I even said jokingly that I am a Catholic priest and our marriage vows are indissoluble! After that, we prayed and then took what has now become the famous photograph behind closed doors.

At this point, I felt that my spiritual duties had been achieved and I was prepared to maintain my independence. Sheikh Gumi and I shook hands and although I was hungry and food was being laid out, I skipped lunch. I quietly let myself out by the side door, got into the Four Square Gospel car and we drove off to Lagos.

Despite the dread of Lagos traffic and the disruption of flights at the Airport in Lagos, I had declined the offer of a seat in the Aircrafts which had flown them to Abeokuta. Although flying with them was the best (and most convenient) assurance I had of getting to Abuja in time for a speaking engagement at an event with the Sultan and Cardinal Onaiyekan for 9am the next day, it was necessary to ensure that I took no favours from any of the two parties.

I was not in Abeokuta to endorse Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, the candidate of the Peoples’ Democratic Party. I perfectly understand the feelings of many of my friends and members of the opposition who believe that I travelled with Alhaji Abubakar and his team to attend his endorsement by President Obasanjo, but I reiterate that this was not the case. All the bills for my travel were settled by the Four Square Gospel hosts for the earlier dated programme who had bought my tickets, booked accommodation for me and took care to get me to the airport for my flight to Abuja and Sokoto.

I am a strong believer in a peaceful and united Nigeria, ideals for which I have striven and served my entire adult life as a thinker and a priest. My instincts for reconciliation and peace were sharpened during my involvement and experience with the Oputa Panel.

When the Generals refused to respond to the invitation of Oputa Panel, I personally undertook to visit both General Babangida and Buhari (he was not at home) at a time that today’s latter day Buharists were asking the Panel to compel them to come or risk being blacked out of national life.

Objective-minded people will remember that back in 2001, when the Christian community and many of President Buhari’s opponents claimed that General Buhari had said that Muslims should vote only for Muslims, many people in the Christian community were disappointed that I wrote a long article to explain the context of what he had said after speaking with the General. His party, the ANPP later used part of my article for their 2003 campaigns! My faith and experience have taught me to learn to suspend judgment till I have heard both sides of a story, no matter what.

I hope that this clarification helps to allay the concerns of those who may have seen all of these in a different light. Many minds will remain set no matter the reasonableness of my comments here, and this is to be expected- one can not please everyone. This is why it is often best to seek to please only one’s own conscience, and here, mine is very clear.

I have been involved in a few behind-the-scene shuttle diplomacy for years, largely on my own initiative, taking advantage of my knowledge of those engaged in the conflict or at the invitation of third parties. Some have succeeded and some have not. As priest, it is not in my place to publicise what we have achieved.

I am the Convener of the National Peace Committee. This alone is enough to place a moral boundary which I am bound to respect. The NPC able to accomplish much because of trust and that is not what I can treat lightly. When it became clear that both President Obasanjo and Abubakar were on the verge of making peace, I alerted the Chairman of the NPC, General Abdusalam.

Since I happen to be in Lagos, I drove to the Ikoyi home of Chief Emeka Anyaoku and alerted him. I spoke to my Metropolitan, the Archbishop of Kaduna, Archbishop Matthew Ndagoso. All in all, everyone believed this was a very good move if we could achieve it. None of us imagined the third phase of this meeting.

Both theoretically and practically, I have come to know that peace making is a very risky business and often a thankless job. I recall listening to the late Kofi Anan speak about his on two different occasions.

Anyone involved in peace making from domestic quarrels to larger battles, must be ready for the good, the bad and the ugly. In the end, we must wear the shoes of the long distance runner, believing and trusting that the truth never ever sinks to the bottom of the sea. The truth will always have a stubborn way of defying the hostile elements and popping up at the right time, no matter how long it takes.

I perfectly understand that with Alhaji Abubakar having just picked up the Presidential ticket of his Party, without providing this context, definitely, I can appreciate why many people will have a lot of anxieties. They will definitely be right to question my neutrality. However, I have far too many friends across party lines for me to openly endorse one candidate or party against the other.

It will be against the principles of the Code of Canon Law of the Catholic Church which regulates our public life in the political space. The President of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference has signed a statement to the effect that no altar of the Catholic Church must ever be open to any politician, something we have all taken seriously. I therefore hope that this clarification helps those whose minds are open.

I am thankful to God and quite pleased that this reconciliation took place and that I was a small instrument in making it happen. However, I am sorry that it has been given a different colouration and doubts to many people. Its timing was purely fortuitous and purely circumstantial not a contrivance.

Personally, I will never relent in the very urgent task of making peace and reconciliation across the spectrum of our country.



https://www.thecable.ng/kukah-how-i-convinced-obasanjo-to-end-the-feud-with-atiku

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by WhyMoD: 1:00pm On Oct 15, 2018
Everyone knows that Atikus competence can not be doubted.. the only problem is corruption.

But Buhari upon being corrupt is incompetent combined. He has hate, bigotry, nepotism, vendetta, pretence, divisiveness and reeks of everything evil..

So I'd rather chose the corrupt man who has other values intact.

Besides Atiku knows he's seen as corrupt and so he'd have a lot to prove.
But Bubu, upon being corrupt is deceptive and takes Nigerians for granted. Blames everyone for his own faults.

And who says Atiku cannot be booted out after one term should he fail?

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Benscolari: 1:01pm On Oct 15, 2018
#it doesn't matter.
We are after one goal :SENDING THE DULLARD BACK TO HIS REDUNDANT GAY COWS

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by sarrki(m): 1:02pm On Oct 15, 2018
Atiku dollarize this father

He started speaking in lost tongues

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by sarrki(m): 1:03pm On Oct 15, 2018
Benscolari:
#ut doesn't matter.
We are after one goal :SENDING THE DULLARD BACK TO HIS REDUNDANT GAY COWS


All of a sudden we are not hearing zoo and Biafra anymore

Self deceit is worse than HIV

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Benscolari: 1:14pm On Oct 15, 2018
And zombies are worst than hiv
sarrki:



All of a sudden we are not hearing zoo and Biafra anymore

Self deceit is worse than HIV

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Shuku0kukobambi: 1:25pm On Oct 15, 2018
Rev father Kukah has spoken very well. I've never doubted his neutrality and with this his explanatory piece, I'm assured of his continued steadfastness in this regard.

OBJ is a politician and he ensured he milked Kukah's dignified presence for all it's worth. Well he wouldn't have been Ebora Owu if he didn't know how to do that wink

Be that as it may, Atiku and PDP will milk it too and who would blame them? After all Mbaka's tirade against GEJ proved very effective for APC and Buhari.

Las Las, all na about politics and self interest

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by YomzzyDBlogger: 1:54pm On Oct 15, 2018
cool
Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by rhymestech: 1:54pm On Oct 15, 2018
na wah o
Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by twf1: 1:55pm On Oct 15, 2018
Bishop! You did not do anything. I repeat, you did not do anything.

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Nobody: 1:55pm On Oct 15, 2018
Shame on you Bishop. Instead of you to berate the two of them for robbing Nigeria blind when they both ruled together, you are here forming peacemaker between two super thieves.

A big shame on you Kukah.

Truly, there are no more Christians in this world, just pretenders to the name.

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Newbiee: 1:56pm On Oct 15, 2018
HOW WILL YOU CONVINCE HIM TO EXPUNGE THIS FROM HIS BOOK *"MY WATCH"

Obasanjo on Atiku:-

_"What I did not know, which came out glaringly later, was his parental background which was somewhat shadowy, *his propensity to corruption, his tendency to disloyalty, his inability to say and stick to the truth all the time,a propensity for poor judgment, his belief and reliance on marabouts, his lack of transparency, his trust in money to buy his way out on all issues and his readiness to sacrifice morality, integrity, propriety truth and national interest for self and selfish interest"*_

Olusegun Obasanjo
MY WATCH
Volume 2
Pages 31- 32

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by aciza(m): 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
OK naa

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Nobody: 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
cheesy

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Cryptocribhq: 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
in summary please undecided
Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Nobody: 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
I thought this idiot denied visiting OBJ in company of Atiku and Oyedepo? 2019 go be like film for Una thieving eyes

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by dukie25: 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
Kukah really hates that Islamic Jihadist called Buhari.
Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by ipobarethieves: 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
cool Blessed are the peacemakers, for dey shall be called the children of God but Atiku is a THIEF. i pity Ipob yweets

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Nobody: 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2018
grin

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by IMASTEX: 1:58pm On Oct 15, 2018
Okay
Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by ayodaisi: 1:58pm On Oct 15, 2018
All this thief bishop

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by Nobody: 1:59pm On Oct 15, 2018
You deserve an award from the nsala - wielding Igbos then. At least you have won a soul.


Bishop my nyash...

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by gazilion: 1:59pm On Oct 15, 2018
Matthew Kukah or the other eminent persons should not arrogate the success of the mediation to himself alone. Bishop Oyedepo, Sheikh Gumi, Chidoka etc were there as well.

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by rentAcock(m): 1:59pm On Oct 15, 2018
Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's views and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by toluxa1(m): 1:59pm On Oct 15, 2018
Honourable Minister of Transport, Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi said if Buhari is not returned as President come 2019, Nigeria will move 10years backwards.
....
I did the calculation by a count down 10 years from 2019 and got answer of 2009, Then, I quickly checked my diary and discovered that.
10years ago was 2009.
.....
• At that time, fuel was N65 per litre., it is N145 now
• A gallon of 'TOTAL 5000W' engine oil was N750 then, it is N4800 now
• Naira was 150 to $1.
• A bag of cement was N900.
• Food stuff was so cheap in open market.
• A 10kg bag of semovita was N550 then, it is N3100 now
• A 50kg bag of Indian Rice was N5700 then, it is N16,000 now
• A 10kg bag of Wheatmeal was N350 then, it is N2600 now
• N200 would buy enough combination of pepper spices to prepare soup to last for 2weeks then, N200 can only buy 5-balls of tomatoes now
• A tin of Peak milk was N50 then, it is N200 now with low and poorer quality
• A mudu of beans was N120 then, it is N600 now
• We were still using N5 to do shopping
• A mudu of garri was =N=12
....
After considering all these i said, APC/Buhari government shall be voted out so we could go 10yrs backwards, its better than now.
Pls help to spread the news we must join hands to change this change!!!

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by playpaz: 1:59pm On Oct 15, 2018
:-

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Re: Kukah: How I Convinced Obasanjo To End The Feud With Atiku by hisexcellency34: 2:00pm On Oct 15, 2018
Sir, swear by the Bible whether you received dollars or not after the crisis resolution

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