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Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Ogaga87(m): 12:41pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
After 20 trillion.. Soon they go call us the capital of borrowing.. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by zombieTRACKER: 12:43pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
theoldpretender: If you know the waste and leakages in govt You wont spew this trash 1 Like |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by wisebrains: 12:43pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
Why can't these people just sell the country and distribute the proceeds to all citizens, despite the huge indebtedness we are in already, some idiots still give the executive the go-ahead for more borrowing. Nonsense!!! akelicious: |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by theoldpretender(m): 12:45pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
tetralogyfallot: Fitch Ratings, a global leader in financial information services, has offered up their per barrel of oil, break-even statistics on some of the major oil-producing nations in the Middle East, Africa and North Asia. To estimate the break-even price to attain a balanced budget, Fitch used an oil forecast of $52.50 a barrel, on average. A few of the countries’ break-even numbers are astonishing—especially Nigeria—which is the worst off with an estimated oil price of $139 a barrel. Kuwait is in the best position, needing only a $45 oil price average to balance its budget. Though a company is obviously different from a country, a major focus at TAG Oil has always been to keep production costs low, not just on the operations side but with G&A as well. TAG currently has a break-even point of US $34 per barrel ($25 – $27 /boe not including G&A). With Brent crude sitting at an average of $55 a barrel this year, we’re doing ok. Check out Fitch’s forecast 2017 break-even oil prices, per barrel: Nigeria at $139 Bahrain at $84 Angola at $82 Oman at $75 Saudi Arabia at $74 Russia at $72 Kazakhstan at $71 Gabon at $66 Azerbaijan at $66 Iraq at $61 Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, at $60 Republic of Congo at $52 Qatar at $51 Kuwait at $45 Source |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Assassin101: 12:48pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
make una kwantinu una mumu never do |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by movetoca: 12:49pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
Very very soon they will ask every Nigerian to contribute N1,000 to fund the yearly budget.No good roads, no electricity, no good water. Every necessities of life is a miracle here. European zoos are even well managed compared to Nigeria. Why can't Nigerians ever get their shits right. Damn you blacks are sub humans. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Nobody: 12:49pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
yeah drown us in debt. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Ogaga87(m): 12:50pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
When the consequences of this our borrowing will come, the people situation of Greece will be a learner.. 1 Like |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by theoldpretender(m): 12:51pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
zombieTRACKER: 1.Pay attention to my points...especially the bit where I say we have to fight corruption. 2.I am just defining the problem. Before we even talk about wastage...the fact is, we are not earning enough money from oil in the first place.The wastages make it worse. (I think that our economic modelof relying on JUST exporting stuff , instead of making stuff...leaves us vulnerable to external adverse factors. ) 3.Eventually, any sensible economic policy for Nigeria would be based on removing subsides, fighting corruption, spending more on power ...with the aim of inviting more investors,local and foreign. Once our economy is based on industrial development....we can move forward.(That's why I cant support APC or PDP....I don't see those stuff in their programs.Just more of the drab old populism..and chicken in the pot politics...without thought on how we would rear the chickens.). p.s...I did not insult you, yet you chose to insult me. This is an anonymous forum, however, don't just go round insulting people you don't agree with. Thank you Also,if you are responding, please make your points in decent language. I am open to disagreement , but I do not appreciate being called trash. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Wixelz(m): 12:52pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
when it comes to looting or for their own pockets, they unite, but keep mum wen it's for the masses. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by tetralogyfallot(m): 12:57pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
theoldpretender:u mean we need oil to be $139 per barrel before we can stop looking for loans? |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by theoldpretender(m): 1:02pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
KanwuliaMama: 1.UAE is an oil dependent economy. Thing is, they produce the same amount of oil as does Nigeria for a population of just 11 million people.(Nigeria has 200million people) As a result...they have more money to spend UAE's breakeven is $60 perbarrel. Right now, they are earning an extra $20 per barrel. Nigeria's breakeven is $140 per barrel...we are losing $60 per barrel by contrast. (If all the oil money we earned in Nigeria was spent on the South South alone, it could look like the UAE.) 2.China has an industrial economy...which is based on heavy manufacturing. They have a lot of techincians too(Nigeria is a country that despises techincal people...instead everyone wants to go to university). If we were to follow China's example. there would be some years of hardship...but it would be worth it. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by KanwuliaMama: 1:07pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
theoldpretender: Keep making excuses! Nigeria is a WASTEFUL economy riddled with CORRUPTION. With what Nigeria earns, Nigeria can be self-sufficient by prudent diversification and less minimal corruption. What economic policy does Nigeria have other than LOOTING and WASTEFUL SPENDING on irrelevant projects? Period! |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by theoldpretender(m): 1:09pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
tetralogyfallot: 1.Yes, that's the scary thing. (And by the way, that is one of the reasons why GEJ was borrowing even with the high oil prices of his regime...because we did not have enough cash from oil). 2.Let's put it into persepctive. You have two familes A and B and in both familes., husband and wife earn N400000 combined in both familes per month. Family A has 2 children, family B has 10 children plus dependents. As a result...family A has no financial worries, family B has financial worries...and has to borrow....despite both A and B having the same income. Nigeria's population is too big for the amount of oil revenue we earn. That's why everybody feels marginalised.(And that's why despite producign the same amount as the UAE...we have more issues) 3.That;s why we have to urgently diversify....and eventually do as China did...and become an industrial powerhouse. Indistrialising however takes time...and means many lean years. That;s why APC nor PDP wants to do that....they would rather follow polices of sharing the money.Then there is the nauseating corruption.... 1 Like |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Snowangel007: 1:10pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Xisnin(m): 1:10pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
Buhari will destroy Nigeria's economy with debt. Debt is never a good thing. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by KanwuliaMama: 1:11pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
tetralogyfallot: Thank you for this question. Recovered loot nko? Wasteful spending by CORRUPT ILLITERATES! No accountability whatsoever! |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by theoldpretender(m): 1:13pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
KanwuliaMama: Well it is...I doubt i have denied that in any of my posts. What I am doing is trying to explain WHY we are borrowing. We are not earning enough money. That makes things bad...but throw in the wastefulness you speak of, and it makes things worse. We should cut waste...but we should also accept that we are not a rich nation, and spend our little money SENSIBLY (Which would help cut waste...). P.S I am not an apologist for the APC government. As a Nigerian, I am dissapointed in the corruption and waste that I see. But...the corruption and waste is making a bad situation worse. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by KanwuliaMama: 1:16pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
theoldpretender: You cannot keep borrowing to finance an expensive, psychedelic drug-addiction! That is the case of Nigeria and Africa! The borrowing is NEVER justified! You don’t earn enough money, but politicians siphone BILLIONS ANNUALLY? |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by emmy2807(m): 1:59pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
theoldpretender:I agree with you, the economy has to be diversified, even with the oil boom jonathan still borrowed, so the borrowing would have to continue till we can fund our budget by ourselves. if the president refuse to borrow, we would move from recession to depression and even oblivion if we are not careful. borrowing is therefore not the problem but is the borrowed money being used well? and diversification is the only way forward. anybody, notice that more construction are ongoing at the momemt, why is this so? could it be campaign strategy? |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by CapussoSeba: 2:38pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Angrymode: 2:47pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
The annoying part is that this govt still boasts of increased savings somewhere. Geez! Money borrowed is money owed and if it exceeds your savings, you are living on a negative scale. The amount of money borrowed by this stupid govt just to do stupid things will keep us as a country on a negative financial scale that even our great great grand children can't upturn This clueless govt has mortgaged our future and some wicked people still wants to vote for them - so sad!!!! |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Angrymode: 2:50pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
emmy2807: What about managing with what we have while we gradually pay back these massive loans with wicked interest rates? Let's suffer now so that our children may enjoy. If this borrowing doesn't stop, our children will be born into hellish shithole. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Nobody: 3:10pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
kennygee: they're not enemies. debt is good when well utilized. blame the wise men at the two chambers |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Reference(m): 4:00pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
theoldpretender: Did I not tell you folks not to subsidize the dollar in order to stimulate more local production. Now that Mr. President has squandered all the good will he will not be able to implement any hard hitting reforms. We are stuck in a viscious cycle. I hope Mr. Emefiele is happy. At least be will not get the blame when our debt eventually sinks us. To borrow into an unproductive system is a cardinal financial sin. |
Re: Reps Approve More Borrowing For Presidency by Skybee1(m): 4:51pm On Oct 24, 2018 |
Wetin them dy borrow all this money carry do sef.
So who go come pay all the debt now. |
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