mr1759:
The only true king the is the Oba of Edo, Obi of onitsha and the youngest among then Ooni of Ife

The rest are not traditional ruler instead they are Islamic religious leaders

LuciferKristi:
Prince Charles will definitely undergo an extensive medical checkup after this harrowing experience.

Being bombarded with strong gworo smell, ginger & garlic stench, aboniki balm heat from our Ab0ki brethren, rotting flesh donated for rituals underneath the Obi of Onitsha's cap + putrid Afonja 3-week boxers on the Ooni's waist can kill an unsuspecting adult.


*spits

LuciferKristi:
Prince Charles will definitely undergo an extensive medical checkup after this harrowing experience.

Being bombarded with strong gworo smell, ginger & garlic stench, aboniki balm heat from our Ab0ki brethren, rotting flesh donated for rituals underneath the Obi of Onitsha's cap + putrid Afonja 3-week boxers on the Ooni's waist can kill an unsuspecting adult.


*spits

LuciferKristi:
Prince Charles will definitely undergo an extensive medical checkup after this harrowing experience.

Being bombarded with strong gworo smell, ginger & garlic stench, aboniki balm heat from our Ab0ki brethren, rotting flesh donated for rituals underneath the Obi of Onitsha's cap + putrid Afonja 3-week boxers on the Ooni's waist can kill an unsuspecting adult.


*spits

LuciferKristi:
Prince Charles will definitely undergo an extensive medical checkup after this harrowing experience.

Being bombarded with strong gworo smell, ginger & garlic stench, aboniki balm heat from our Ab0ki brethren, rotting flesh donated for rituals underneath the Obi of Onitsha's cap + putrid Afonja 3-week boxers on the Ooni's waist can kill an unsuspecting adult.


*spits

TAO11:
In reply to odigbosky in the thread "Prince Charles Meets Nigerian Traditional Rulers", you had replied in the following words which I couldn't reply back there for some reasons:

After reading all through your write up, i came to the conclusion that you just came here for the whole yoruba superiority contest. It is obvious that you are yoruba. You made a claim that the yorubas thought us metal casting. What kind of metal, you did not indicate. You went further to say ancient Edos got all their metal works from ife. This literally meant all Benin war equipments were gotten from Ife. i would then ask what did Oba Ewedo then fight with i guess with stone tools. What Egharevba talked about was about Bronze Casting and it is very wrong to paint a picture as if the Edos had no prior knowledge to metal works before the Oguola time. Some of the first moats were built by Oba Oguola during wars with the Duke of Udo called Akpanigiakon.
As for the stool, it was one of the things surrendered to Oba Ewedo after he defeated Ogiame in the battle of Ekiophaga. Son for you to say the stool also came from ife...please bro just drop the whole ethnic poo and sip your alomo bitters.


Those swords are associated with the Monarchy of Benin and not any king in Yoruba land.




My reply:

Whether or not I'm Yoruba or whether or not I'm a Yoruba supremacist is not a good counter argument to the evidences I have adduced.


The point you made about metal casting is invalid for the following reasons:

The specific technique of metal casting (which applies to bronze or brass or iron etc.) brought from Uhe to Benin by Igaghae is said by experts to be known today as "the lost wax process", and it applies to metals of all kinds for different purposes.

The sources had said that prior to Oba Oguola's reign the Benin's had depended absolutely on importation from Uhe. So, your question "what did Oba Ewedo then fight with i guess with stone tools?" naturally gets the answer "No, not with some stone tools, but with metals imported from Uhe".

But if that's not what you meant, then be more explicit in your question. I wonder if the Nigeria Army (for example) produces any of its war ammunition say 20 years ago.

Please educate yourself further on who were the people of the "Nigeria" region of ancient times that was first civilized in the skill and technique of casting metals of any kind (even war and farm implements specifically).


Regarding the stool you could have just stayed quiet:

Oba Ewedo was the third Oba after Oba Eweka 1 (two other Obas separate him from Eweka). I was talking about a foreign Oba monarchy system that completely wiped out the indigenous Ogiso monarchy system starting from Eweka 1 (or arguably Oromiyan himself) up till this present time.

The present monarchy is originally foreign to Igodomigodo or Benin was my argument.

LuciferKristi:
Prince Charles will definitely undergo an extensive medical checkup after this harrowing experience.

Being bombarded with strong gworo smell, ginger & garlic stench, aboniki balm heat from our Ab0ki brethren, rotting flesh donated for rituals underneath the Obi of Onitsha's cap + putrid Afonja 3-week boxers on the Ooni's waist can kill an unsuspecting adult.


*spits

Dynamique:
Why is the Alaafin of Oyo not present?.

NwaAmaikpe:



Chai, I pity the Oba of Benin.
Upon all his effizy, see where they seated him.
At the far back.

He didn't even get to seat near an ordinary Prince.
Later he'd expect me to say "Oba gha to kpere".

With the way the Northern monarchs are seated next to Prince Charles, you can tell that the British think Nigeria belongs to the North.

Once again.
I pity the Oba of Benin for this humiliation.

Chidorx60:
the Oba doesn't need to stay close to the prince to defend his title as the supreme leader of southern Nigeria

you know how to pity him in your safe closet where his numerous loyalists will not see your head to chop off.

tealaw:
all the igbos at the back.

NwaAmaikpe:



Chai, I pity the Oba of Benin.
Upon all his effizy, see where they seated him.
At the far back.

He didn't even get to seat near an ordinary Prince.
Later he'd expect me to say "Oba gha to kpere".

With the way the Northern monarchs are seated next to Prince Charles, you can tell that the British think Nigeria belongs to the North.

Once again.
I pity the Oba of Benin for this humiliation.

LuciferKristi:
Prince Charles will definitely undergo an extensive medical checkup after this harrowing experience.

Being bombarded with strong gworo smell, ginger & garlic stench, aboniki balm heat from our Ab0ki brethren, rotting flesh donated for rituals underneath the Obi of Onitsha's cap + putrid Afonja 3-week boxers on the Ooni's waist can kill an unsuspecting adult.


*spits

odigbosky:




I would like you to quote your sources. The source that told you all Benin metal works were gotten from Ife. So you are trying to tell me that the Ogiso period that spanned over 35 sky kings did not have any knowledge of metal works until Oronmiyan made contact with the Edos. You are saying that these group of persons were literally still in the stone age until they met with the yorubas. It makes me wonder the kind of ife you are painting bro. Please just tell me your source. What most people don't know is that, it is not even Oronmiyan that defeated the Ogiame rivals. It was Oba Ewedo. Prior to Oba Ewedo, all symbols of authority including the royal stool was with the Ogiame while Oba Ewedo had nothing except Usama. Talking about Oronmiyan or the dynasty is a deviation. We started this on metal works and the royal stool and you still haven't given me the sources that told you that the Edos had no prior knowledge of metals or its working before Oronmiyan time. You yorubas just want to claim responsibility for our success. If ife was so good with iron works and had prior knowledge of it before most communities i wonder why she was never imperial like Oyo. Having such weapon as iron puts you on an edge right, yet Oronmiyan could not conquer the Edos he met here who had no knowledge of metal works and were still using sticks and stones according to your claims.

prolog2:
The reason Edo and yoruba can't be friends is the constant yoruba attempts to take credit for about everything which belongs to Edo: the monarchy, the art, the military successes... It is annoying, you guys should have more self-esteem and start actually promoting your own culture and actual history rather than constantly claiming ours and rewriting history. Once again, the ogiso, odudwa, oranmiyan are all fables, stories for the kids. It really amazes me to see adults quoting these stories for kids in serious conversations. And these fools even believe that this is history ... Please Nigerian federal government, reinstate history at school most young Nigerians don't even know what it means. For all of us who studied abroad, we know that history is the studies of ancient documents. History is not the science of making up stories and trying to glorify yourself by making silly claims.

TAO11:



We aren't taking any unwarranted credit. We state facts. But facts annoy only f@ 0ls.

A wise person appreciated fact when they are presented with one.

Search for truth

prolog2:
You ask an Edo what his ancestors contributed to the world, he will direct you to the most important museums in the world, yea they all have Edo art. You ask a Yoruba the same question, he dives into claiming Edo achievements, with either the claim of : "we taught them" or the latest one : "we did it and gave it to them". And finally "they send the heads of their dead kings to be buried in ife"....How much will it take to buy you guys some self-esteem ? The Igbos don't have more history than you, yet they are not claiming the achievements of Edo ancestors as theirs, they are not pretending that the Oba came from Enugu, they have self-respect and self-esteem, something you Yorubas lack.

prolog2:
It is just like going to interview two students and asking them about their grades, the first one (Edo) shows his grades and is very proud of his good grades, he attributes it to hardwork. The second one (Yoruba) doesn't show his grades, instead he tries to take credit for Edo's grades by claiming "I thought him everything" and even later claiming "I sat the exams in his stead". Self-esteem...priceless.

prolog2:
Your crazy head is so up your ass that you cant even sense your own foolishness. You are only contributing into making your people the joke of africa. Propaganda technics won't help you rewrite history. By definition, history is written on papers made before your great great great ...grand father was born. You would need a time machine to rewrite history.

TAO11:



Yoruba ancestors did more than that.

The made art and taught others.

And our arts are not looted to be in another man's custody in such large quantity. We give freely whatever we wish despite ours been unmatched in the whole of Africa as I have shown to you some days ago to which you had no response

No one prays that his most important sweat should not be felt and appreciated in his home and your Oba get this point hence his continuous clamour for return.

You seem to not to feel the pain of your Oba from your statement that your ancestors treasures should remain with those who stole them

TAO11:



You just proved my point about facts and f@ols.

I challenged you severally some days ago that you should contradict (with evidence) my evidence-bases assertion that the bronzes of Ife habe no match in Africa among other seven points, you ran away after being unable to address just one of them

TAO11:
Feel free to address any one or more or all of those seven points here if you think you have suddenly stumbled upon the evidences you've been searching for.

But if know you don't have any evidence or you know you can't find any evidence, then please allow for decorum by keeping shut from now onwards when discussions like this come up again.


In the meantime, you can enjoy yourself with some facts I have esucates some of your kinsman (odigbosky) with above