budaatum:

We're saying the same thing. According to them, gender can be changed by their say so.

Yes it can. You seem to be falling into the error you accuse the religious of, dogmatic thinking.

If at some point we begin to exchange our limbs for enhanced man made substitutes would you be among those screaming no?

budaatum:

No! Effeminity does not gender make. Semenya is not a man!!

Exactly

budaatum:

That vaxx would agree with his own claim that truth is subjective.

Not knowing for truth to be binding it must be absolute.

And the very nature of truth suggests it is absolute or it isn't truth.

johnydon22:
Not knowing for truth to be binding it must be absolute.

And the very nature of truth suggests it is absolute or it isn't truth.

what is the very nature of truth?

LordReed:


Yes it can. You seem to be falling into the error you accuse the religious of, dogmatic thinking.

If at some point we begin to exchange our limbs for enhanced man made substitutes would you be among those screaming no?

We already change our limbs (including legs, arms, breasts, kidneys etc) for prosthetics, and you don't hear me screaming, though I'm very aware I sound like the religious dogmatic. Hopefully you read where I said it does not bother me much, but that don't mean it would not bother some.

We've had a transgender prisoner sexually assault inmates, and them being assaulted to, which brought up the issue of whether they should be in prisons of their birth genders or new genders. And there's the claims by some that children are being groomed into being transgenders, which if true needs to be guided against.

johnydon22:
Not knowing for truth to be binding it must be absolute.

And the very nature of truth suggests it is absolute or it isn't truth.

Unfortunately, apart from things that can be empirically and objectively determined to be true or not, people do make truth up as they go along, and some go as far as claiming lies are truth.

budaatum:

We already change our limbs (including legs, arms, breasts, kidneys etc) for prosthetics, and you don't hear me screaming, though I'm very aware I sound like the religious dogmatic. Hopefully you read where I said it does not bother me much, but that don't mean it would not bother some.

We've had a transgender prisoner sexually assault inmates, and them being assaulted to, which brought up the issue of whether they should be in prisons of their birth genders or new genders. And there's the claims by some that children are being groomed into being transgenders, which if true needs to be guided against.

If how much people take advantage of their situation is the criteria then what do you propose we do with men? Men make up the overwhelming majority of almost every crime statistic you care to take.

budaatum:

Unfortunately, apart from things that can be empirically and objectively determined to be true or not, people do make truth up as they go along, and some go as far as claiming lies are truth.

The thing is, because someone says something is a truth doesn't make it so.

johnydon22:
The thing is, because someone says something is a truth doesn't make it so.

Well, just so you know. There are some people who claim the truth is according to their say so, regardless of the facts and evidence.