deomelllo:
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I don't remember quoting you to debate irrelevant rubbish about FOI, start your own topic to debate your own FOI rubbish.


Argue with me based on what I asserted, not based on your own fabricated argument and topics.

ednut1:
With Tinubu pocketing 20% of it.

Max24:

Dear Deomello, I have not derailed from the topic of your thread which is about Lagos growth of 4% and is about Lagos developement. One of the MATTERS ARISING out of that topic is FOI. You can't talk of true and verfiable development/growth without transparency which FOI is about. Or isn't that what obtains in developed countries ? Imagine the size of Lagos budget without accountability - beats my imagination. Take note I am not PDP and I have not mentioned Buhari in this discussions. I have limited my talk to Lagos which is also ur subject.I am just a concerned Lagosian and I know you are passionate about Lagos. BTW, I am surprised u called FOI rubbish. How will Lagos attract sustained foreign investment without FOI ?

three:
Case in point

Lagos took out a circa N50bn loan to finance a PPP. (If you look closely you will find a parody in there)

In 2007 after constructing ONLY 4km of a 46km road LCC (ask me who owns LCC) put up a tollgate! Only 4km into the project!

In 2011 Bros Fash d fash formed 'we will suspend tolling' - Lagos State paid for every vehicle that passes without paying! (this was signed into the contract ab initio)

In fact, Lagos State until recently paid for every vehicle that passed the other tollgate at Conservation Plaza!

In 2018 with ONLY 21km of the 46km to Epe done, Lagos is still owing N40B!

After all the Tolls? After completing ONLY half of the work?

Bonus - the pedestrian bridges for the Mobil to VGC section were 60% paid for in 2011! Have all 5 been built?

Siddon dia dey run pomade

deomelllo:



I know your type and I saw your usual irrelevant and off topic tactics. The thread is about Lagos state and forced growth, not FOI and last I checked, there's a clear difference between economic growth and FOI.


Your FOI was a needless diversion and the usual Tinubu or other people are looting insinuations which I really have nothing against because that's your opinion, but it's not by force for me to engage such irrelevant and off-topic diversion.

You really can do better by directing the same energy to your own villages and governors since you people can never show us what they are doing with your taxes and allocations.

..besides, you care less about Lagos and even if you really care about accountability in Nigeria, you should by now be showing me how you fought for accountability in your own state with FOI

Charity begins at home.

Go and seek FOI in your own village because they have nothing to show for the taxes and allocations they are collecting from you.

TAO11:


a typical developer sighted

Ask yourself if Anambra (for e.g.) is owned by the Yorubas. Apply your answer into answering the question of who owns Lagos.

Ask yourself who the hosts are in Lagos, and who the aliens are.

You just exhibited the "developers" syndrome up above.

deomelllo:




1. Work is still going on and never stopped, the project slowed down on several occasions because of lawsuits, relocation of power piles and pipelines.


2. Comparing Lagos, an ordinary state in Nigeria with sovereign countries with sovereign wealth was ignorant.


4. Lagos state is not just constructing a Metro line, they are constructing a 10 lane freeway with BRT access at the same time.

3. If you are even going to compare Lagos with other countries in Africa, show us the ones constructing a 10 lane freeway system with Metro rail and BRT access, multiple stations and metro rail bridge over a Lagoon.

Many of you always cannot wait to let us know how much you hate your country and put your country down when in fact your own country is doing better than other countries.

How many states, I don't mean country, I mean states in Africa are undertaking so massive projects.? Name one, apart from Lagos state in Nigeria.


Many of you need to ease off ignorance, hatred, tribalism and the need to demean yourselves unnecessarily.

Seetto:

Is that all? What else. Lagos has achieved greater development than 20 states combined together in the last 18yrs.

Pigsandidiots:
[s][/s]Just as they contribute their quota to the developement of Asia, America n Europe. They have much right, come n claim it na. Can you tell us here what and how they contribute to the development of lagos? This is the question you people have never answered in your life. Your brain is paining you. I know you are pained and angry. If u are not, answer the question i asked.

Originalsly:
I always wonder why politicians make these big empty statements.... but from the general comments I an see why....people open their mouths wide and just swallow....hook, line and sinker.
How much did Lagos grow in 2018? Does the IMF set the agenda and budget for Lagos to predict it will grow by 4%? So regardless of what Ambode does/does not do...Lagos is going to grow by 4%. Lagos.... one of world's top tourism places.... really?...no numbers? These guys just disrespect the masses.

Raiders:
lagos is one of the poorest mega city in the world. stop comparing lagos with those small African countries with populations of less than 5 million people. compare lagos with mega cities in other developing countries like Johannesburg, Cairo, Mexico city, New Delhi. lagos is a complete mess with no major transit system. infact lagos is 1 of 2 other mega cities in the world without a mass transit system

winterfell007:


Siddon there make pant dey wear you. All your Tinubu, Fashola, Ambode and probably the incoming Sanwolu couldn't construct and complete blue rail line systems from mile 2 all the way down to Badagry for 10 straight years while other countries you are forming giants for have completed theirs in record time. Come to our area and see what that useless project has caused us,

9jaRealist:


The GDP figures for Lagos are well-known and has been in the public realm for a long time.

winterfell007:


Look Deomello, I'm igbo to the core, that doesn't make me tribalist or show hate towards other enthic groups other than mine. I'm only making an objective opinion.

Having typed that, is it not you and fellow 'omoluabis' that normally tout that: 'if Lagos were a country, it would be the fifth biggest economy in Africa' Lagos is much bigger than Kenya and Morocco that completed their metrolines in record time,
Considering the fact that APC has always direct the fate of Lagos since 1999, one would have expected it must gone further (at least Fashola tried his best) it wasn't enough, that your 'geepee' tank of a Governor you all call 'class captain' made a mess of the whole thing considering the fact that he declared the largest budget of 1 trillion naira since the history of Lagos State.
When people of other enthic groups express their displeasure at the way the APC led administration is 'fucking' up in Lagos, they are in their right to do so. Afterall, they're all equal stakeholders, the only their ancestors were not originally from Lagos.

ekestic1976:


Why would they be angry about an idea whose architects they are? Are they not the Developers of Lagos who sand-filled the ocean beachline, erected the setbacks at Victoria Island, Ikoyi and the other places? This technology they have transferred to Asia and Latin America. They're so good at this that they don't mind leaving their homeland to erosion, for as the Bible says, Love your neighbour!

9jaRealist:

No, it is NOT! Lagos’ GDP is greater than the GDP of the nations of Ghana and Kenya COMBINED!

Meanwhile, a major and relatively wealthy mega city like Jakarta (Indonesia), which is even bigger than Lagos with an estimated 30 million population has NO rail-based mass transit system. In fact, Johannesburg’s Gautrain is actually technically NOT a metro rail system. Nonetheless, Lagos’ recent agreement with France’s Alstom virtually ensures that Lagos will end up with a world-class metro system.

winterfell007:

My people are generally known as traders from Alaba international market to Balogun market to Idumota market, to Trade fair along mile 2 to Computer village and others. They are actively categorized into the MSME (medium and small scale enterprise) segment of our economy. You might think they small in nature but there numbers make them a significant player in their industry. That's why Fashola made efforts to provide some basic social services in those markets and ensured LIRS had mobile offices in those markets, to ensure that they continue to pay their taxes and levies. So my friend, they are equal stakeholders as far as Lagos is concerned.

three:


20%?!!!!





If or when you run the numbers, you will find that it's the OTHER WAY round.

Lagosians (people who live in Lagos) get 10-15%
That Bourdillon guy and his cronies get 85-90%

I've done threads with the facts but the PR slush fund always gets in the way

Abi you people think it is ONLY Tinubu that is chopping the 85-90%?

winterfell007:


You are really a pathetic fellow. Why would 'some people' be angry? They have as much right as every other people to claim it so long as they continue to contribute their own quota to the growth and development of the city.
You have a myopic mindset for thinking because Lagos sits on the western part of Nigeria, then only the people of western origin will enjoy the services that Lagos provides. If that's the case, why didn't Lagos State construct a road or build a new hospital and tagg it 'Yorubas only' You better recalibrate your medulla.

winterfell007:

Siddon there make pant dey wear you. All your Tinubu, Fashola, Ambode and probably the incoming Sanwolu couldn't construct and complete blue rail line systems from mile 2 all the way down to Badagry for 10 straight years while other countries you are forming giants for have completed theirs in record time. Come to our area and see what that useless project has caused us,

ednut1:
With Tinubu pocketing 20% of it.

Max24:

But why are your principals adamant about not passing the FOI law ? Let there be transparency in all the ownership and revenue structures ? Transparency is a key ingredient of true development.

Max24:

Dear Deomello, I have not derailed from the topic of your thread which is about Lagos growth of 4% and is about Lagos developement. One of the MATTERS ARISING out of that topic is FOI. You can't talk of true and verfiable development/growth without transparency which FOI is about. Or isn't that what obtains in developed countries ? Imagine the size of Lagos budget without accountability - beats my imagination. Take note I am not PDP and I have not mentioned Buhari in this discussions. I have limited my talk to Lagos which is also ur subject.I am just a concerned Lagosian and I know you are passionate about Lagos. BTW, I am surprised u called FOI rubbish. How will Lagos attract sustained foreign investment without FOI ?

Max24:

Point of correction my brother. I am not from the East if thats what u are implying. I am a Lagosian like you by birth but I believe in accountability. I am a stakeholder in Lagos in many ways - by birth, residence and I pay my taxes to Alausa. So we are supposed to be parners in a better and transparent Lagos.

winterfell007:


Look Deomello, I'm igbo to the core, that doesn't make me tribalist or show hate towards other enthic groups other than mine. I'm only making an objective opinion.

Having typed that, is it not you and fellow 'omoluabis' that normally tout that: 'if Lagos were a country, it would be the fifth biggest economy in Africa' Lagos is much bigger than Kenya and Morocco that completed their metrolines in record time,
Considering the fact that APC has always direct the fate of Lagos since 1999, one would have expected it must gone further (at least Fashola tried his best) it wasn't enough, that your 'geepee' tank of a Governor you all call 'class captain' made a mess of the whole thing considering the fact that he declared the largest budget of 1 trillion naira since the history of Lagos State.
When people of other enthic groups express their displeasure at the way the APC led administration is 'fucking' up in Lagos, they are in their right to do so. Afterall, they're all equal stakeholders, the only their ancestors were not originally from Lagos.

Bragalane:
Before others can come for Lagos let them show us how beta they are doing than Lagos ? I am yet to see American complaining California is not as beautiful as heaven. Let Biafrans show us how Biafra is beta than Lagos and we go from there, instead of talking rubbish on NL daily.

winterfell007:


Look Deomello, I'm igbo to the core, that doesn't make me tribalist or show hate towards other enthic groups other than mine. I'm only making an objective opinion.

Having typed that, is it not you and fellow 'omoluabis' that normally tout that: 'if Lagos were a country, it would be the fifth biggest economy in Africa' Lagos is much bigger than Kenya and Morocco that completed their metrolines in record time,
Considering the fact that APC has always direct the fate of Lagos since 1999, one would have expected it must gone further (at least Fashola tried his best) it wasn't enough, that your 'geepee' tank of a Governor you all call 'class captain' made a mess of the whole thing considering the fact that he declared the largest budget of 1 trillion naira since the history of Lagos State.
When people of other enthic groups express their displeasure at the way the APC led administration is 'fucking' up in Lagos, they are in their right to do so. Afterall, they're all equal stakeholders, the only their ancestors were not originally from Lagos.

winterfell007:


There's no such things as host or alien provided we are live in a geographical location called Nigeria. Besides nothing stops you from going to Anambra to buy properties and do business provided you contribute your own quota its development, then you are as much an 'anambrain' as any other person who originally came from Anambra. Get that!!

AndLeo:


Thiefnibu zombie

abdulwastecx:


Morocco is a much bigger country than Lagos state, it has a population of 35.7m people, it has a much larger land mass and resources at its disposal and can't be compared to a tiny city like Lagos.

The Lagos state government under the leadership of Asiwaju Tinubu has done much to lay a good foundation for the development of Lagos since 1999. Lagos was a mess before 1999, the Military government did nothing after the capital city was moved to Abuja, states like Kano and all oil producing states get more in revenue from the federal government than Lagos despite most having a smaller population and challenges. Tinubu devises a means to generate revenue through other means to augment whatever coming from the federal government.

Most of you criticizing Tinubu are only doing it out of hatred and envy and not for the betterment of Lagos. Lagos have a good future under the leadership of APC and the omoluabis

TAO11:


a typical developer sighted

Ask yourself if Anambra (for e.g.) is owned by the Yorubas. Apply your answer into answering the question of who owns Lagos.

Ask yourself who the hosts are in Lagos, and who the aliens are.

You just exhibited the "developers" syndrome up above.