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If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by martyns303(m): 1:07pm On Aug 07, 2010
Obviously the above statement has become the concept of which the Nigerian young society is now defined, i tuned in to STV and all the music videos portrays semi-nude girls gyrating, my old man use to complain abt d excessive show of flesh on MTV, i wonder what he'd say now. On campus, streets and even church ur being bombarded with these. I would like to knw if girls on the street dn't show excessive flesh they won't get noticed? Or won't the music videos sell without these semi-nude A*s gyrating girls? Whats ur take?
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by blackmann(m): 1:13pm On Aug 07, 2010
it's all about getting attention and copying the so called "western and civilized world". It also comes from the fact that men like the look of young and firm flesh.
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by googles: 1:27pm On Aug 07, 2010
***shake your money maker***
***move your money maker***


i guess there is a reason they call it money maker. . . you shake it to sell it.

but hmm i'd rather they dont shake their big bellies in most 9ja videos sha dats just so disgusting angry
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by coalcoal1(m): 2:17pm On Aug 07, 2010
some still sell without the shaking
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by InkedNerd(f): 3:23pm On Aug 07, 2010
It really kills me that people have resorted to behind shaking in order to sell records in Nigeria. Its one thing to say you want to express yourself as an artist its another to conform to western beliefs. Don't get me wrong not everything about western society is bad, but it seems as thought Nigerians [and other African nations] seems to like picking up aspects of western society that makes us [Nigerians and fellow Africans] feel that we need t resort to that sort of thing. Like in Nigerian movies for example, there is a LOT of emphasis on sexuality. As an advertising student, I know sex sells and yes the Nigerian entertainment industry is trying to keep up with the west but there are others ways to keep up. I've noticed that in Bollywood movies, they've managed to balance traditional Indian beliefs with the ever changing western beliefs on sex.
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by iice(f): 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2010
Some people wanna see sex and shaking and dry humping. So you make money from that market.
Sex sells. . .always has, prolly always will.
I'm indifferent. I like artsy videos and underground music so it doesn't really register when i see all these videos.
Besides sometimes, people are so intent on castigating or judging something totally forgetting about themselves. And they can be just as bad or good if not worse or better.
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by martyns303(m): 5:14pm On Aug 07, 2010
This wasn't the case less than 2yrs ago, now all the media seems to portray 3ex. With the likes of mercy J. In Nollywood.
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by honeric01(m): 5:23pm On Aug 07, 2010
When i need to listen to music, i get my radio or audio player working, can't stand all the "porn" views, too slutty to me.


Why waste time on music videos when there's discovery channel?
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Bamsyle2(m): 10:22am On Aug 09, 2010
Without trying to sound judgmental, folks with no impressive message in their songs usually do that . . .

IMO, a song with an impressive message does not tally with a raunchy video . . . I can't imagine all the flesh 'n' stuff in Nas' "One Mic" . . .

Yes sex sells . . . it's about using corporate branding and adverts to sell chaff . . . something's gotta give.
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Krayola(m): 3:16pm On Aug 09, 2010
Since when did half naked women and booty shaking become inventions of the western world? undecided
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by eldee(m): 4:26pm On Aug 09, 2010
Krayola:

Since when did half unclothed women and booty shaking become inventions of the western world? undecided

Erm . . . didn't you hear that Fela is from France??
And all those booty shaking traditional dancers are from East Germany. grin grin

martyns303:


This wasn't the case less than 2yrs ago, now all the media seems to portray 3ex. With the likes of mercy J. In Nollywood.

Effrebor, Delicious, Shake Sumn, Bang Bang Bang . . .shall I continue??
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by eldee(m): 4:29pm On Aug 09, 2010
Bamsyle.:

Without trying to sound judgmental, folks with no impressive message in their songs usually do that . . .

IMO, a song with an impressive message does not tally with a raunchy video . . . I can't imagine all the flesh 'n' stuff in Nas' "One Mic" . . .

Yes sex sells . . . it's about using corporate branding and adverts to sell chaff . . . something's gotta give.

3ex is an impressive message in its own right, it's a part of contemporary society and it's a big part of everything else, so it's only normal that it be portrayed in music videos.

How've you been BTW??
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by googles: 4:30pm On Aug 09, 2010
eldee:

Erm . . . didn't you hear that Fela is from France??
And all those booty shaking traditional dancers are from East Germany. grin grin

Effrebor, Delicious, Shake Sumn, Bang Bang Bang . . .shall I continue??

Krayola:

Since when did half unclothed women and booty shaking become inventions of the western world?   undecided

the two both of youse. . . . . wassup?
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by honeric01(m): 4:43pm On Aug 09, 2010
You guys haven't seen anything yet, how many of you lot watches Jamaican videos? you'd see what your mouth can't tell.

R.Kelly already shot videos with nak, ed girls and not only him, alot of other American musicians, give Nigeria 5 years, you'd be seeing the same thing happening here.
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by eldee(m): 4:47pm On Aug 09, 2010
googles:

the two both of youse. . . . . wassup?

Ssup b . . . how've you bin??
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by googles: 5:00pm On Aug 09, 2010
eldee:

Ssup b . . . how've you bin??

av been good jare
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Bamsyle2(m): 7:08pm On Aug 09, 2010
eldee:

3ex is an impressive message in its own right, it's a part of contemporary society and it's a big part of everything else, so it's only normal that it be portrayed in music videos.

I agree sex is a message . . . fact is everything is a message . . . even if all I do is sneeze and cough on a track, it can connote all sorts of messages - I have a cold . . . or I'm just an i.mbecile . . .

For want of a better word to qualify "message", I had to use "impressive" . . . it all depends on what appeals to us . . . most times, I love stuff with heavy lyrical content . . . this comes mostly from the griots of Rap Music . . . and most times, these folks just spit pure unadulterated and deep ish . . . devoid of unnecessary display of flesh . . . and I'm cool with that . . .  smiley

But on the flip side, I like to see 'em raw stuff at times . . . ain't we all human??  cheesy

How've you been BTW??

Great . . . you??
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by eldee(m): 7:44pm On Aug 09, 2010
Bamsyle.:

I agree sex is a message . . . fact is everything is a message . . . even if all I do is sneeze and cough on a track, it can connote all sorts of messages - I have a cold . . . or I'm just an i.mbecile . . .

For want of a better word to qualify "message", I had to use "impressive" . . . it all depends on what appeals to us . . . most times, I love stuff with heavy lyrical content . . . this comes mostly from the griots of Rap Music . . . and most times, these folks just spit pure unadulterated and deep ish . . . devoid of unnecessary display of flesh . . . and I'm cool with that . . .  smiley

But on the flip side, I like to see 'em raw stuff at times . . . ain't we all human??  cheesy

Hehehe . . . you're already insulting my intelligence with that 'sneezing' example. Sex is a big message, it's different from sneezing or playing Call of Duty and we all know that.
There's a reason why on every survey on what most affects young people sex and not sneezing is in the top three.

Music is an expression of society, sex probably comes only next to religion and money in the contemporary Nigerian society and much higher in young people.
Society places much emphasis on sex, it will be criminal if music does not portray it.

'Impressive'?? That's a subjective opinion, I find sex impressive, maybe it's just because I'm good at it. tongue tongue
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by googles: 7:48pm On Aug 09, 2010
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'Impressive'?? That's a subjective opinion, I find sex impressive, maybe it's just because I'm good at it. tongue tongue
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cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Eldee. . . . . . all this your mouth ehn
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by tosinaded(m): 8:27pm On Aug 09, 2010
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Bamsyle2(m): 1:58am On Aug 10, 2010
eldee:

Hehehe . . . you're already insulting my intelligence with that 'sneezing' example. Sex is a big message, it's different from sneezing or playing Call of Duty and we all know that.
There's a reason why on every survey on what most affects young people sex and not sneezing is in the top three.

Sex is everywhere around us . . . you don't need to switch on your TV set or read Playboy to see it . . . . . . we're constantly inundated by it every day and everywhere - the classrooms, the markets, at work, even in church . . . it's all in our faces, so what's the essence of selling it to me?? And hell no, even if you must sell it, not through music.

Music is an expression of society, sex probably comes only next to religion and money in the contemporary Nigerian society and much higher in young people.
Society places much emphasis on sex, it will be criminal if music does not portray it.

I agree . . . but you need to see the bigger picture . . . sex enslaves . . . and you'll do well to break yourself from it's shackles . . . and see the bigger picture . . . it's the reason a large percentage of the youth populace ain't productive . . . the reason some of us will end up scoring an "F" where we could've had an "A" . . . cheesy

'Impressive'?? That's a subjective opinion, I find sex impressive, maybe it's just because I'm good at it. tongue tongue

Yes, I agree . . . and that was why I added "IMO" at the beginning of ma post . . .

Also, I always wanna really do what I appear to be doing . . . what would I gain from watching Sisqo's "Thong Song", when I can as well watch a sex movie?? Or better still, have sex??

Pardon me for sounding extreme, but is my testosterone level higher than yours?? tongue
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Bamsyle2(m): 2:06am On Aug 10, 2010
@Eldee

Sex is everywhere around us . . . you don't need to switch on your TV set or read Playboy to see it . . . . . . we're constantly inundated by it every day and everywhere - the classrooms, the markets, at work, even in church . . . it's all in our faces, so what's the essence of selling it to me?? And hell no, even if you must sell it, not through music.

Music is an expression of society . . .

I agree . . . but you need to see the bigger picture . . . sex enslaves . . . and you'll do well to break yourself from it's shackles . . . and see the bigger picture . . . it's the reason a large percentage of the youth populace ain't productive . . . the reason some of us will end up scoring an "F" where we could've had an "A" . . . cheesy

'Impressive'?? That's a subjective opinion, I find sex impressive, maybe it's just because I'm good at it. tongue tongue

I also agree . . . and that was why I added "IMO" at the beginning of ma post . . .

Also, I always wanna really do what I appear to be doing . . . what would I gain from watching Sisqo's "Thong Song", when I can as well watch a sex movie?? Or better still, have sex??

Pardon me for sounding extreme, but is my testosterone level higher than yours?? tongue
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by A40(m): 8:31pm On Aug 14, 2010
With the way people front on 3ex you would think they where conceived via immaculate means grin grin
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by eldee(m): 12:09am On Aug 15, 2010
@Eldee

Sex is everywhere around us . . . you don't need to switch on your TV set or read Playboy to see it . . . . . . we're constantly inundated by it every day and everywhere - the classrooms, the markets, at work, even in church . . . it's all in our faces, so what's the essence of selling it to me?? And hell no, even if you must sell it, not through music.
 

What kind of B.S are you spewing here?? to think you can even sit in front of your PC and type this rubbish is shocking.
So because sex is around us means we shouldn't have it in music?? Because Double Star Reverend Bamsyle doesn't want it in a song??
People get slapped for less than this where I grew up.

I[b] agree . . . but you need to see the bigger picture . . . sex enslaves . . . and you'll do well to break yourself from it's shackles . . . and see the bigger picture . . . it's the reason a large percentage of the youth populace ain't productive . . . the reason some of us will end up scoring an "F" where we could've had an "A" . . .[/b] 

You are not a very smart man Bamsyle . . . with due respect.
I know you went to the Abstinence is the answer seminar, but come the eff on . . . you don't have to give us your silly Deeper Life sermon.

I also agree . . . and that was why I added "IMO" at the beginning of ma post . . .

Also, I always wanna really do what I appear to be doing . . . what would I gain from watching Sisqo's "Thong Song", when I can as well watch a sex movie?? Or better still, have intimacy??

Pardon me for sounding extreme, but is my testosterone level higher than yours??


So one minute it's 'sex enslaves', the next minute it's 'I'd rather watch a sex movie' . . . Are you Kaydee in disguise?? cheesy cheesy
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Nobody: 2:54pm On Aug 15, 2010
If your willy is going crazy in your pants when you see girls dancing, the problem is you. kiss
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Bamsyle2(m): 11:11am On Aug 16, 2010
A-40:

With the way people front on 3ex you would think they where conceived via immaculate means grin grin

You're crazy . . .  grin

But seriously, I don't digg vids with unnecessary parade of flesh . . . most vids with such are lackin' in lyrics . . . picture "One Mic" with a raunchy vid . . .

Funny thing is I might like a song that's got great delivery but's deficient on the lyrical side of things . . . but if the vid's all about raunchiness, believe me I'm out . . .

Ask yourself A-40, what's the essence of watching a raunchy music vid when you could watch p[/i]or[i]n??  cheesy Better still, go get some . . .  tongue

Well, each to his 'pinion, I love sex . . . but maybe I just got tired of all those "shake ya backside/[i]b[/i]oo[i]b[/i]s" kinda themes . . .  undecided
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by dayokanu(m): 6:09pm On Aug 16, 2010
Is this new? Femi Kuti sang bang bang over 10yrs ago. Watch Shabaranks videos from the early 90's

Obesere has been singing lewd songs and shooting lewd videos for close to 20yrs

I saw live bo0bs in Felas live concert which was over 20yrs ago.

Booty shaking is not new jare and its part of entertainment. Sex sells
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by Vquest(m): 6:38pm On Aug 16, 2010
googles:

***shake your money maker***
***move your money maker***


i guess there is a reason they call it money maker. . . you shake it to sell it.

but hmm i'd rather they dont shake their big bellies in most 9ja videos sha dats just so disgusting angry


grin grin grin grin
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by tunde300us(m): 6:44pm On Aug 16, 2010
I think the question really is this,is it compulsory to have sex scenes in all movie shoot? How abt some creativity and originality wink
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by tunde300us(m): 6:45pm On Aug 16, 2010
I think the question really is this,is it compulsory to have sex scenes in all video shoot? How abt some creativity and originality  wink
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by A40(m): 7:07pm On Aug 16, 2010
Bamsyle.:

You're crazy . . .  grin

But seriously, I don't digg vids with unnecessary parade of flesh . . . most vids with such are lackin' in lyrics . . . picture "One Mic" with a raunchy vid . . .

Funny thing is I might like a song that's got great delivery but's deficient on the lyrical side of things . . . but if the vid's all about raunchiness, believe me I'm out . . .

Ask yourself A-40, what's the essence of watching a raunchy music vid when you could watch p[/i]or[i]n??  cheesy Better still, go get some . . .  tongue

Well, each to his 'pinion, I love sex . . . but maybe I just got tired of all those "shake ya backside/[i]b[/i]oo[i]b[/i]s" kinda themes . . .  undecided
My Guy you funny gan ooh. Why would "One Mic be about raunchy dancers and half-naked women? the song is pretty self explanatory

Not everyone wants to listen to nuclear physics and neurosurgery in their spare time they bump songs to get that ish off their minds.

Watching a raunchy music video lets just say is a cheaper alternative to paying ashies or going to strip clubs lol.
Usually though from the titles of songs you should be able to tell what kind of video you are in for and if you don't like it your tv remote is not just there to decorate your living room
Re: If It Ain't Shaking, It Ain't Selling by hackney(m): 8:47pm On Aug 16, 2010
These days, music fans may have dumbed down a bit.
If videos are not flashy and raunchy, you can sing your heart out and these
dumb and dumberer kids dont care and wont download jack.

I remember when i was really small (primary sch days) and my eldest sis wore
shorts to the market in the village (she was in sec sch then).

See chaos ; people came to the house to quietly complain to my mum then.
Now , the girls selling in the same markets are wearing just panties.
grin grin

Everything has to have sexual connotations to be relevant these days.

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