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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 2:42pm On Jan 05
MrAkata:



Thank u brotha

Its crazy how they totally neglect the fact I said I was open to attending a University. What better way could u learn about a country and culture than by attending a University ? Its a common theme among OUR people I have noticed. When I say our people I mean black people. As much as we may deny the fact black people share common traits regardless of on the continent or in the diaspora. There is a huge distrust among each other. A black man seeking to open businesses or make money will never be welcomed or treated w/ the same respect as a white man. Where the white man is welcomed with smiles and enthusiasm a black man will be frowned at and looked at suspiciously. Whether tribalism or gang banging we will put it aside when the white man comes . I watched Ghanaians while I was there kiss white people ass at the slave forts and knew I could never live there. No disrespect but I could not live in a country who caters to tourism and exploits the history of oppression and the slave trade. When a white man visits a slave port they dont see what I see. They see remnants of a glorious part of their glorious history when the white man was supreme. Then these same dumb idiots run to kiss their ass voluntarily subjugating themselves. If it was left up to I would blow the whole thing up while a group of German tourist walked the dungeons .

We have real issues as a people we must overcome if we are to move forward. Which is why I say I would not involve myself or really participate in any tribal affairs or try to "learn" which tribe I come from. I see black people as ONE . If u black u black thats all I care about . once u involve yourself then Yorubas , will tell u how bad the Igbos are. The Igbos will tell u dont deal w/ Hausa . I dont have time 4 none of that

Respect 2 u

exactly, i was so suprised when they came for you instead of encouraging you on how to adapt in Nigeria, there is nothing bad if you come for economical purpose alone, Many Nigerians and blacks go abroad for economical purposes without learning the culture and way of life

damn it is just too stressful, entangling yourself with politics and tribal norms, something you are not familiar with, it will kill the purpose of your visit.

we all live in a globalised world not a pan african world, and we should try to seek opportunities where ever we want.

i am sure, if it was a white asking that question, many people on this forum, will be the first to give him or her ideas on how to survive in Nigeria.

All these pan african nonsense is just a waste of time, people are looking for business and developmental partners not some pan african ideas on how to live. with all the ideas, how many country have progress, most of these pan africanist can come to terms that the world has left them behind and that their ideas have failed, we are in the 21st century and someone is talking about pan Africanism like that is a means of production and development.

I myself, do not participate in politics in Nigeria, i dont vote and dont give a damn about it and also i dont try to impress anybody with any cultural stuff because nobody cares, my goal in life is to improve on my self and get more skills.

Dont be concern about what they say, just visit the country and see for yourself, Lagos will be good for you because, you will have access to everything . be positive, strategic, and opportunities will be open for you especially in this large market.

young chinese are moving to Nigeria and making cash with simple skills not available in Nigeria, the advantage they have is that they have a strong network here and many of them are posted to nigeria by the company they worked for, so they are united in finding opportunities.

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by urahara(m): 5:12pm On Jan 05
MrAkata:
As the title suggest I am an Akata. I intend to relocate temporarily for various reasons. I basically would like to explore different opportunities and build a network in Nigeria. I have a background in IT and was considering enrolling in an University to further my studies and build a social network. I was wondering are Nigerian degrees recognized in America or would it be a waste of time ? I have a decent knowledge of IT and programming mostly self taught and certs. I am not too considered w/ school but rather the network it would provide.

I also have done some limited research and was torn between Lagos and Abuja. I am wondering which area would better suit my interest. I understand Abuja is more affluent but Lagos is a commercial hub with a lot going on. Im not timid or scared , I've lived in NY in rough parts so high density areas of black people do not intimidate me ( Im no tough guy ,either). What I am not interested in are any forms of "pan africanism" or any village experiences and wearing dashiki's ( no disrespect ) I just find those type of endeavors a waste of time and laughable. I've been to Ghana and did not enjoy it because of that reason . Too much emphasis on " cultural " poo , I respect African culture and can appreciate it , but it is yours . I do not seek to be something I am not. Too much tribalism and other political bullshit only confuses me and Im too old 4 that poo. My ONLY purpose in being in Nigeria is purely economical . I don't have time to waste on endeveours which will add no value to my life or the people i come in contact with.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback which I could take into consideration b4 making my move. I intend to travel there by March for 2 weeks just to touch the ground 1st b4 I make a decision. I tried searching YouTube but all of the Akata youtubers seem to be naive clowns to me so I take their opinions w/ "a grain of salt" as far as NIgeira.

I dont mean to come off disrespectful because I hold Nigerians in high esteem its just rather the narrative of the returning Akata which I hold in disdain. I don't want to be confused w/ some lost puppy looking to return and find his long lost culture and heritage. I have a culture and background o my own ( carribbean descent) so I can appreciate yours as I hold onto mines.

Blessing 2 u Brothers


grin grin grin lmao
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 1:00am On Jan 06
MrAkata:



I am sorry sister but I must agree with him about you. You whole argument was an " emotional " one rooted in Pan African ideals. I am so critical of "Pan Africanism" because it is something which is deeply rooted in my culture . I grew up surrounded by Pan Africans and come from a country with deep African roots[b]. I am not Jamaican but of Caribbean descent and I come from Garifuna parents.[/b] If you have never heard of the Garifuna's we still to this day have our language which originated from West Africa . We were the slaves who broke away and have scattered through Central America and neighboring islands. I personally don't speak the language but some of my family does and 4 the most part it is a dying language and culture. This has shaped my country along w/ Reggae so Pan Africanism is nothing new to me . I grew up eating casava every thing. Casava Bread, Casava pudding Casava leaves before i ever stepped foot in Africa . We even eat a Fufu type dish made w/ plantains instead of casava. (HUDUT)

My experiences in America where I was born and raised was surrounded by West Indian immigrants. Primarily Jamaicans and Haitians who a large portion of which were Rastafarians . I have been studying with and surrounded by "Pan Africans" since the 90s , this is nothing new , but rather a resurgence for African Americans. Hailie Selassie put aside land in Ethiopia for "Pan Africans and Rastas" in the 1950's. That land has yet to be developed and no one is interested in actually getting off their ass and going. Instead they sit around EVERY GOD DAMN DAY talking about colonizers and Africa. It got tiring 4 me and I quickly became disillusioned .

Even with that being said I still understand you sister and do not look down on you. As a woman you will view the world different from me as a man. Women are more idealistic and emotional where a man "should" be practical and rational . This is why certain things don't bother me and I dont concern myself with other things. As a woman you are a looking 4 love and acceptance. As a man I am solely concerned w/ respect and building something 4 myself and children. Women have the luxury of optimism and believing they will meet some African prince and be treated like a Queen.
While I am burdened w/ the responsibility of facilitating these dreams and aspiration.

As far as the word AKATA I dont take offense to it..It is just a word , and does not effect me . I have never been oppressed and discriminated against by Nigerians. So u can not give the word the same connotation as NIGG@.There is no historic context of the word being used to subjugate me or my people , To me it is a joke . I find it actually funny to be honest. The reason being is because we got a word 4 Black Americans also
. Its a word I grew up being called. Every culture has a word they use to address foreigners ,not just black americans and its not always in a positive connotation (nor negative) I am from a poor country known for tourism, drug trafficking and money laundering. There are NO economic opportunities for locals nor foreigners for that matter. So whenever I return the 1st thing my family and friends ask is " yo wich pat de food ?" Meaning where the money at . After the hugs and kisses everybody expecting and looking 4 you to be coming back with a plan to make money . This is the type of culture I was raised in. So I know what being poor and surrounded by people stuck in a situation and they look to you to offer something. I am not implying all Nigerians are poor and living in poverty but I also know that the minority in America wearing designer clothes and bragging about driving Mercedes dont represent the country as a whole. Where I am from that mindset does not fly. I mean no disrespect but u would be robbed kidnapped and killed if u come back only to show off.

So yea sister we just come from 2 different thought processes and understandings of the world. I view tourist and the like as colonizers personally. Tourism is the only industry my country has and I watch as EVERYBODY black and white come to enjoy the beaches and eat cheap food and Bleep our women. How does that benefit a country ? Maybe I bring my own mental baggage but I feel tourism is 4 white people. If a black man/woman is planning to return to Africa w/o any type economical ambitions you are a waste of space. Just so u can come take pictures and post on instagram in some village to stroke[b] your own ego and act as if u "connected to your root " Especially a country w/ the market size Nigeria has. I dont know of any other BLACK country with those opportunities which is not already completely controlled and ran by white and Indian people[/b].

Open your mind sister ,
Love is Love

Oh...well that's unfortunate that you agree with your Nigerian brother about "me"...lol.
But yes, you are right....men and women are wired differently. Isn't that a lovely difference?
But the brother on the thread was in support of you relocating there; he was just giving you "tips" (it seemed) on how to navigate through Lagos or Abuja.

So you are a Caribbean American...very cool.
So both of your parents are from the Caribbean...but you were born and bred in the U.S.
I have never heard of Garifuna people...but that's quite interesting. If you are from New York, there is a huge West Indian population there...if I'm not mistaken.


I'm truly African American. My mom was Black American and my dad's Igbo.
I've always had some difficulty cause growing up the black folks called me an "African booty scratcher" undecided
Then the very few Africans (including western and eastern Africans) I encountered where I lived, didn't think I was "African" enough due to my mom.
So it's been a challenge...
I've practically only identified as a Black American...although my name is fully Nigerian.

Perhaps that's why I'm so keen on visiting my other half and immersing myself in the culture that I really don't know too much about.

I laugh about the "akata" word too.
At first, I was offended...but later I actually started liking the word and thought it was cute.
Lots of black foreigners have lots to say about Black Americans... (some of which is founded...some of which is not).
I can't even imagine what islanders call Black Americans..lol.

I just laughed reading the guy on this thread who allegedly didn't know what "akata" meant..lol.
I find that extremely hard to believe....lol. But so he says...
One of my dad's friends (who is from Edo state) was visiting 1 weekend about 5 months ago and he started speaking about an "akata this and akata that"...
Then he looked at me (although I'm also Nigerian) and said, "Oops I'm sorry."
I just laughed and said that it was no problem.
Now he himself is married to an "Oyibo/Oyinbo" ( another word(s) I learned here on N.L.), and his kids will probably be called "akatas" AND "oyibos"...but he couldn't help himself using the word.
I had found out (about 2 years ago-through this site-..the time i had asked my dad about "akata"wink that he absolutely knows and knew the word and definition.
But see, I was clueless because he had never in my entire life used it in our household.

So see I have actual aunts, uncles, tons of cousins (some of whom I've spoken to on the phone) etc. that I'd like to meet. I would never come to Nigeria to take some pics to post on Instagram to connect with my "roots" briefly. I don't even do social media...other than N.L.
It's not a photo-op. It's my real life..real tangible roots...real blood.
But I do believe tourism should be for all people. Why not have blacks come and enjoy tge beauty of the island (food, shopping, amusements etc)...you know the "clean stuff" which could pump money into the economy? Every little bit helps right?

I know Nigeria is a huge market place....so do lots and lots of other folks. I'm first interested in the people..then the culture...then other things can fall inti place.
But neither I nor the other guy was trying to discourage you from going there to Nigeria to make an economic impact nor were we trying to "come for you", as was stated.
I wish you the best...

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 11:04am On Jan 06
Mobilia:


Oh...well that's unfortunate that you agree with your Nigerian brother about "me"...lol.
But yes, you are right....men and women are wired differently. Isn't that a lovely difference?
But the brother on the thread was in support of you relocating there; he was just giving you "tips" on how to navigate through Lagos or Abuja.

So you are a Caribbean American...very cool.
So both of your parents are from the Caribbean...but you were born and bred in the U.S.
I have never heard of Garifuna people...but that's quite interesting. If you are from New York, there is a huge West Indian population there...if I'm not mistaken.


I'm truly African American. My mom was Black American and my dad's Igbo.
I've always had some difficulty cause growing up the black folks called me an "African bootie-scratcher" undecided
Then the very few Africans (including western and eastern Africans) I encountered where I lived, didn't think I was "African" enough due to my mom.
So it's been a challenge...
I've practically only identified as a Black American...although my name is fully Nigerian.

Perhaps that's why I'm so keen on visiting my other half and immersing myself in the culture that I really don't know too much about.

I laugh about the "akata" word too.
At first, I was offended...but later I actually started liking the word and thought it was cute.
Lots of black foreigners have lots to say about Black Americans... (some of which is founded...some of which is not).
I can't even imagine what islanders call Black Americans..lol.

I just laughed reading the guy on this thread who allegedly didn't know what "akata" meant..lol.
I find that extremely hard to believe....lol. But so he says...
One of my dad's friends (who is from Edo state) was visiting 1 weekend about 5 months ago and he started speaking about an "akata this and akata that"...
Then he looked at me (although I'm also Nigerian) and said, "Oops I'm sorry."
I just laughed and said that it was no problem.
Now he himself is married to an "Oyibo/Oyinbo" ( another word(s) I learned here on N.L.), and his kids will probably be called "akatas" AND "oyibos"...but he couldn't help himself using the word.
I had found out (about 2 years ago..the time i had asked my das about "akata"wink that he absolutely knows the word and definition.
But see, I was clueless because he has never in my entire life used it in our household.

So see I have actual aunts, uncles, tons of cousins (some of whom I've spoken to on the phone) etc. that I'd like to meet. I would never come to Nigeria to take some pics to post on Instagram to connect with my "roots" briefly. I don't even do social media...other than N.L.
It's not a photo-op. It's my real life..real tangible roots...real blood.
But I do believe tourism should be for all people. Why not have blacks come and enjoy tge beauty of the island (food, shopping, amusements etc)...you know the "clean stuff" which could pump money into the economy? Every little bit helps right?

I know Nigeria is a huge market place....so do lots and lots of other folks. I'm first interested in the people..then the culture...then other things can fall inti place.
But neither I nor the other guy was trying to discourage you from going there to Nigeria to make an economic impact nor were we trying to "come for you", as was stated.
I wish you the best...







if i may intrude,

Point of notice: why do you like using the word "Brother" to strangers, i am curious, it is something strange to me

from your post, I understand why you want to visit Nigeria, to Know where you come from while MR AKATA purpose is purely economical.

I like to say, I understand what you are going through (an identity crisis) and that is true even for many Nigerians living in Nigeria especially in the south, they don't know where they come from, I myself went through that crisis but had to do some research about where I came from, visited the place and know more about my culture.

it is funny that other Africans in America thinks that just because, you had an African-American mom that doesn't make you a full African, this is very strange to me, this is the perfect example of when an African abroad thinks he/she is superior to other blacks. i wonder what they will call a mixed race Nigerian, so i think you shouldn't be concern about what they say, nobody has the monopoly of what is meant to be an African and no African can choose who is supposed to be an African or not. i think next time, you should stand up for yourself and tell them your history, in-between, I will be so happy to see YOU and MR AKATA in Nigeria grin grin grin (note: i will not be your travel tour guy who will be showing you places, i am so busy for that smiley I am just interested in meeting new people and making friends.

on the issue on AKATA, i see, you still can't come to terms that, the word AKATA is a strange word to Nigerians just because your uncle from EDO used the word doesnt mean we all say it in Nigeria. life is not rigid, relax and be open-minded, that is how you can get the best out of life.

Nigeria is a big country with different shades of Nigerians living there, it will be very difficult for many Nigerians to Know the difference between an african-american and a Nigerian except by accent, even with the accent, it is damn difficult. Nobody cares where you come from as long as you are black, you will adapt, as you wrote, that you do have a Nigerian surname, even though you have lived abroad for years, you will be considered a Nigerian.

Are you on whatsapp?, if you dont mind,we could exchange contacts)\
Note: Do not Post your contact on this site
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 11:08am On Jan 06
@MR AKATA, are you on whatsapp, lets exchange contact.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 1:45am On Jan 07
thebosstrevor:


if i may intrude,

Point of notice: why do you like using the word "Brother" to strangers, i am curious, it is something strange to me



from your post, I understand why you want to visit Nigeria, to Know where you come from while MR AKATA purpose is purely economical.

I like to say, I understand what you are going through (an identity crisis) and that is true even for many Nigerians living in Nigeria especially in the south, they don't know where they come from, I myself went through that crisis but had to do some research about where I came from, visited the place and know more about my culture.

it is funny that other Africans in America thinks that just because, you had an African-American mom that doesn't make you a full African, this is very strange to me, this is the perfect example of when an African abroad thinks he/she is superior to other blacks. i wonder what they will call a mixed race Nigerian, so i think you shouldn't be concern about what they say, nobody has the monopoly of what is meant to be an African and no African can choose who is supposed to be an African or not. i think next time, you should stand up for yourself and tell them your history, in-between, I will be so happy to see YOU and MR AKATA in Nigeria grin grin grin (note: i will not be your travel tour guy who will be showing you places, i am so busy for that smiley I am just interested in meeting new people and making friends.

on the issue on AKATA, i see, you still can't come to terms that, the word AKATA is a strange word to Nigerians just because your uncle from EDO used the word doesnt mean we all say it in Nigeria. life is not rigid, relax and be open-minded, that is how you can get the best out of life.

Nigeria is a big country with different shades of Nigerians living there, it will be very difficult for many Nigerians to Know the difference between an african-american and a Nigerian except by accent, even with the accent, it is damn difficult. Nobody cares where you come from as long as you are black, you will adapt, as you wrote, that you do have a Nigerian surname, even though you have lived abroad for years, you will be considered a Nigerian.

Are you on whatsapp?, if you dont mind,we could exchange contacts)
\
Note: Do not Post your contact on this site

Yes you may intrude.
I appreciate you asking a question about something that is puzzling you.
I use the word "brother" a lot here on N.L. cause it's a "term of endearment" that is used in the Black American community. The word "sister" is used also.
Unfortunately, I haven't chatted with a lot of females on here...but I have used the word a few times when referring to them.
I love your diagnosis of me having an "identity crisis" of sorts...lol. i guess you could say that.
It's likened to an adoptive child having a desire at some point in his/her life to know "where he/she comes from".
I thought that I would be able to live my life without ever further exploring my "other half". I know people who are like me that don't really care...
But I got the urge just afew years ago...and have decided to make it a reality.
I've had quite a few challenges that have delayed my trip..but one thing I know is that God's timimg is best. When I was trying to come just wasn't the right time.

I guess I can't blame people for not seeing me as fully Nigerian...cause in reality I'm not and haven't been raised in the culture nor can i speak any language there. But hey...this is the lot God gave me and I honestly think it's pretty unique. I have the "best of noth worlds"...I just need to immerse myself in the unfamiliar culture somewhat more...lol.


Anyhow, I will accept your words that many Nigerians don't know the word too much. I assumed (based on this site) that it is regularly used.

You know what I admire about the concept of practical wisdom as I am blessed to get older?
It comes as a result (oftentimes) based on poor decisions.
Note: Now there's Godly wisdom...which is most important..and then there's practical wisdom...
If I don't learn from my mistakes and make better choices the next time, then I basically am "unwise".
I say all of that to say this:
I, once upon a time, was using Whatsapp.
This may shock you..but I had never heard of it until I joined N.L. and a guy introduced me to the app.
I'm not too deep into technology...lol.
I've made some choices that weren't the best (last year)...and honestly felt like I needed to take an "hiatus" from Whatsapp.. (and also Telegram).
Sometimes one has to step away from distractions...
So, for now, I am not on it. I only feel comfortable chatting publicly here.
One day, I'll come back to Whatsapp.... smiley
My apologies for that.


P.S. Mr. WorldPeace... (don't know who you are) but
thank you for your advice about Nigerians vs. Nigerian Nairalanders. Very interesting and nice to hear that perspective. I appreciate your comments on the word "akata" too.

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by jantavanta(m): 1:14pm On Jan 07
Mobilia:


Yes you may intrude.
I appreciate you asking a question about something that is puzzling you.
I use the word "brother" a lot here on N.L. cause it's a "term of endearment" that is used in the Black American community. The word "sister" is used also.
Unfortunately, I haven't chatted with a lot of females on here...but I have used the word a few times when referring to them.
I love your diagnosis of me having an "identity crisis" of sorts...lol. i guess you could say that.


@Mobilia, I have been following your conversation with @bosstrevor and @MrAkata

As you are set to discover Nigeria, be prepared for a country that is still trying to discover itself. Most of what we know is what we have been told in History books written by victorious Mr Colonizer. You may in the process discover some things which we do not know. I am always open to that. You have a Nigerian parent, so you do not have to go through the Ancient Egyptian route to discover Africa.

It gets to a stage in Life, after struggling to pass exams and getting a job, accommodation, spouse, etc. one begins to ask "Who am I in this world?". I think Sisters tend to ask that question more than Brothers, as observed by @MrAkata. Perhaps it is a division of labour among genders.

@MrAkata in interested in business. No problem. Every possible link is useful in doing business, be it academic, cultural, recreational. There is something called business culture, which varies from place to place. Some places, it is to meet in a restaurant. In some places, it is to know each other's house. So, how do we eliminate culture in trying to do business? Sometimes, the mere mention of a favourite English Premier league football club could even foster a business relationship. We all human.


@morpheus24 and @bosstrevor seem having the age-old Lagos Islander versus Lagos Mainlander "battle for supremacy". Maybe it is similar to that of West Coast vs East Coast in USA. smiley

I have to go for lunch. Welcome to Nigeria, the Origin of Life.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jan 07
jantavanta:


@Mo/bilia, I have been following your conversation with @bosstrevor and @MrAkata

As you are set to discover Nigeria, be prepared for a country that is still trying to discover itself. Most of what we know is what we have been told in History books written by victorious Mr Colonizer. You may in the process discover some things which we do not know. I am always open to that. You have a Nigerian parent, so you do not have to go through the Ancient Egyptian route to discover Africa.

It gets to a stage in Life, after struggling to pass exams and getting a job, accommodation, spouse, etc. one begins to ask "Who am I in this world?". I think Sisters tend to ask that question more than Brothers, as observed by @MrAkata. Perhaps it is a division of labour among genders.

@MrAkata in interested in business. No problem. Every possible link is useful in doing business, be it academic, cultural, recreational. There is something called business culture, which varies from place to place. Some places, it is to meet in a restaurant. In some places, it is to know each other's house. So, how do we eliminate culture in trying to do business? Sometimes, the mere mention of a favourite English Premier league football club could even foster a business relationship. We all human.


@morpheus24 and @bosstrevor seem having the age-old Lagos Islander versus Lagos Mainlander "battle for supremacy". Maybe it is similar to that of West Coast vs East Coast in USA. smiley

I have to go for lunch. Welcome to Nigeria, the Origin of Life.

Thank you brother for your comments and insight. Very much appreciated. Enjoy your lunch smiley
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 4:38pm On Jan 07
Mobilia:


Yes you may intrude.
I appreciate you asking a question about something that is puzzling you.
I use the word "brother" a lot here on N.L. cause it's a "term of endearment" that is used in the Black American community. The word "sister" is used also.
Unfortunately, I haven't chatted with a lot of females on here...but I have used the word a few times when referring to them.
I love your diagnosis of me having an "identity crisis" of sorts...lol. i guess you could say that.
It's likened to an adoptive child having a desire at some point in his/her life to know "where he/she comes from".
I thought that I would be able to live my life without ever further exploring my "other half". I know people who are like me that don't really care...
But I got the urge just afew years ago...and have decided to make it a reality.
I've had quite a few challenges that have delayed my trip..but one thing I know is that God's timimg is best. When I was trying to come just wasn't the right time.

I guess I can't blame people for not seeing me as fully Nigerian...cause in reality I'm not and haven't been raised in the culture nor can i speak any language there. But hey...this is the lot God gave me and I honestly think it's pretty unique. I have the "best of noth worlds"...I just need to immerse myself in the unfamiliar culture somewhat more...lol.


Anyhow, I will accept your words that many Nigerians don't know the word too much. I assumed (based on this site) that it is regularly used.

You know what I admire about the concept of practical wisdom as I am blessed to get older?
It comes as a result (oftentimes) based on poor decisions.
Note: Now there's Godly wisdom...which is most important..and then there's practical wisdom...
If I don't learn from my mistakes and make better choices the next time, then I basically am "unwise".
I say all of that to say this:
I, once upon a time, was using Whatsapp.
This may shock you..but I had never heard of it until I joined N.L. and a guy introduced me to the app.
I'm not too deep into technology...lol.
I've made some choices that weren't the best (last year)...and honestly felt like I needed to take an "hiatus" from Whatsapp.. (and also Telegram).
Sometimes one has to step away from distractions...
So, for now, I am not on it. I only feel comfortable chatting publicly here.
One day, I'll come back to Whatsapp.... smiley
My apologies for that.


P.S. Mr. WorldPeace... (don't know who you are) but
thank you for your advice about Nigerians vs. Nigerian Nairalanders. Very interesting and nice to hear that perspective. I appreciate your comments on the word "akata" too.

interesting, I see, in my opinion, when I hear the word brother from a stranger especially when I know he or she is Nigerian, don't get me wrong, we have a lot of good people here, but experience has taught me to run for my life, I have been "brothered" and scammed by some of my countrymen. I am always very alert when people use that word around me,

anyway, from video contents, I have watched about African-Americans, I understood the concept of brother/sister as a word used by black Americans radicals and militants to acknowledge the struggle they went through to be accepted as citizens in the US. it is just an opinion. one of my favourite guy in the struggle is Malcome X, I don't agree with some of his philosophy but some of his words inspired me.

it seems, you are very religious, are you a member of any sect and when did you start being so religious? i could dissect your personality just from what you wrote down.

On the issue of identity crisis, there are also many Nigerians who do not know where they come from cant speak their native languages and do not understand their native cultures, it is very common among people living in the south of Nigeria, i think this was because of colonisation, the Northern part of Nigeria have been able to protect their identity and way of life, culture is very strong there. about 99% of them are strong on their culture and religion. (do you know you can get your Nigerian passport if you want, you can ask your dad for guidance if interested) this is the site (https://immigration.gov.ng/) or check in at the Nigerian embassy wherever you live).

on the issue of social media, I understand tech and I work in tech but to be sincere with you, I don't own any of the social media account again because of its toxicity, when I did own one, I noticed the increase in my anxiety and depression, so I decided to delete my account on all social media sites except NL, I guess maybe because I support anything Nigeria, if you don't mind, you can watch this video on the toxicity of social media by sam Vakins a known psychologist -Sam Vaknin: the TRUE toxicity of social media revealed (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmXcjvL9VSc)

if I may ask, what are some of the bad choices you made last year? very curious to know.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 4:45pm On Jan 07
jantavanta:


@Mobilia, I have been following your conversation with @bosstrevor and @MrAkata

As you are set to discover Nigeria, be prepared for a country that is still trying to discover itself. Most of what we know is what we have been told in History books written by victorious Mr Colonizer. You may in the process discover some things which we do not know. I am always open to that. You have a Nigerian parent, so you do not have to go through the Ancient Egyptian route to discover Africa.

It gets to a stage in Life, after struggling to pass exams and getting a job, accommodation, spouse, etc. one begins to ask "Who am I in this world?". I think Sisters tend to ask that question more than Brothers, as observed by @MrAkata. Perhaps it is a division of labour among genders.

@MrAkata in interested in business. No problem. Every possible link is useful in doing business, be it academic, cultural, recreational. There is something called business culture, which varies from place to place. Some places, it is to meet in a restaurant. In some places, it is to know each other's house. So, how do we eliminate culture in trying to do business? Sometimes, the mere mention of a favourite English Premier league football club could even foster a business relationship. We all human.


@morpheus24 and @bosstrevor seem having the age-old Lagos Islander versus Lagos Mainlander "battle for supremacy". Maybe it is similar to that of West Coast vs East Coast in USA. smiley

I have to go for lunch. Welcome to Nigeria, the Origin of Life.

I like what you wrote about the business culture, I think in Nigeria to create a successful business, relationship matters a lot than time, in the west it is time, in Nigeria it is relationships.

for the supremacy battle, maybe, but I noticed the value system has gone down, i don't understand why but something is wrong somewhere even with the abundance of churches and mosques in Lagos, those days of family reputation and name is dying gradually, don't do scam it will destroy the family name, now even parent encourage and pressure their wards to do scam.it is a real problem we are facing.

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 4:49pm On Jan 07
@Mr AKATA,

(https://immigration.gov.ng/) that is the Nigerian immigration website, it will help you to know how to get a visa and residential permit here in Nigeria, also you can visit the Nigerian embassy in any country you reside in, remember, never pay bribe to anyone, stand your ground and avoid visa hustlers at the embassy, they are dangerous and scammers, good luck.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by MrAkata: 6:45pm On Jan 07
[quote author=Mobilia post=74490726]

Oh...well that's unfortunate that you agree with your Nigerian brother about "me"...lol.
But yes, you are right....men and women are wired differently. Isn't that a lovely difference?
But the brother on the thread was in support of you relocating there; he was just giving you "tips" on how to navigate through Lagos or Abuja.

So you are a Caribbean American...very cool.
So both of your parents are from the Caribbean...but you were born and bred in the U.S.
I have never heard of Garifuna people...but that's quite interesting. If you are from New York, there is a huge West Indian population there...if I'm not mistaken.


I'm truly African American. My mom was Black American and my dad's Igbo.
I've always had some difficulty cause growing up the black folks called me an "African bootie-scratcher" undecided
Then the very few Africans (including western and eastern Africans) I encountered where I lived, didn't think I was "African" enough due to my mom.
So it's been a challenge...
I've practically only identified as a Black American...although my name is fully Nigerian.

Perhaps that's why I'm so keen on visiting my other half and immersing myself in the culture that I really don't know too much about.

I laugh about the "akata" word too.
At first, I was offended...but later I actually started liking the word and thought it was cute.
Lots of black foreigners have lots to say about Black Americans... (some of which is founded...some of which is not).
I can't even imagine what islanders call Black Americans..lol.

I just laughed reading the guy on this thread who allegedly didn't know what "akata" meant..lol.
I find that extremely hard to believe....lol. But so he says...
One of my dad's friends (who is from Edo state) was visiting 1 weekend about 5 months ago and he started speaking about an "akata this and akata that"...
Then he looked at me (although I'm also Nigerian) and said, "Oops I'm sorry."
I just laughed and said that it was no problem.
Now he himself is married to an "Oyibo/Oyinbo" ( another word(s) I learned here on N.L.), and his kids will probably be called "akatas" AND "oyibos"...but he couldn't help himself using the word.
I had found out (about 2 years ago..the time i had asked my das about "akata"wink that he absolutely knows the word and definition.
But see, I was clueless because he has never in my entire life used it in our household.

So see I have actual aunts, uncles, tons of cousins (some of whom I've spoken to on the phone) etc. that I'd like to meet. I would never come to Nigeria to take some pics to post on Instagram to connect with my "roots" briefly. I don't even do social media...other than N.L.
It's not a photo-op. It's my real life..real tangible roots...real blood.
But I do believe tourism should be for all people. Why not have blacks come and enjoy tge beauty of the island (food, shopping, amusements etc)...you know the "clean stuff" which could pump money into the economy? Every little bit helps right?

I know Nigeria is a huge market place....so do lots and lots of other folks. I'm first interested in the people..then the culture...then other things can fall inti place.
But neither I nor the other guy was trying to discourage you from going there to Nigeria to make an economic impact nor were we trying to "come for you", as was stated.
I wish you the best...



I really wish Africans would stop spreading this false narrative of Black Americans calling Africans "African Booty Scratchers" That is so childish and completely blown out of proportion. That phrase is almost 30 years old and was not created to disrespect Africans. That was a phrase from a movie BOYZ N DA HOOD used between two Black Americans to disrespect each other. Black Americans called each other that as children in elementary school. No adults or even teenagers used that phrase loosely to address Africans in particulars. Honestly most Black Americans never even met an African in America. I feel that narrative of Americans using that term adds to the division and tension between Africans and African Americans because Africans will come to America believing this is some common term used to refer to them , when it is by no way common. I doubt the average Black American under 35 have ever heard it or know where it comes from.

The only reason u feel so optimistic of tourism is because you are an idealistic America. You have the mindset that Americans waltzing into a coming spending their few dollars is a godsend to the people of that country when it isnt. 90 % of all of that money is owned and controlled by white foreigners and the top 10% and that is who it benefits. You dont know what its like to be a foreigner in your own country . Most of the tourist areas are off limits to locals either due to being over priced or blatantly restricted . Just because u see some old lady selling trinkets or working in a restaurant does not mean it benefits the local population. It doesnt because all the resources are directed towards maintaining those are and making sure the tourist are appeased . Those tourist areas price everything basically in USD but pays the workers local minimum wage ($10 day) I can tell u have never traveled and if u have never had any connection to whats going on w/ the locals. This is the same throughout MOST of the Caribbean. Bahamas and Jamaica same way once you leave the resorts. Then they blame us of being drug traffickers and whores. YES , according to most tourist they see our women in these tourist spots of ALL being whores.

Like I say sister we see the world through different lenses through different life experiences. I see u as being sheltered and never actually being outside of that American bubble. I say that with respect because it is common w/ our people. The level of propaganda fed to us in the US is sickening once u open your eyes. The worst part is that we are complicit in the promotion of this propaganda and negative stereotypes.

I just advise you to travel period . There is no better time that now , do not continue procrastinating and your world views will change.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 8:08pm On Jan 07
MrAkata post=74541848



I really wish Africans would stop spreading this false narrative of Black Americans calling Africans "African Booty Scratchers" That is so childish and completely blown out of proportion. That phrase is almost 30 years old and was not created to disrespect Africans. That was a phrase from a movie BOYZ N DA HOOD used between two Black Americans to disrespect each other. Black Americans called each other that as children in elementary school. No adults or even teenagers used that phrase loosely to address Africans in particulars. Honestly most Black Americans never even met an African in America. I feel that narrative of Americans using that term adds to the division and tension between Africans and African Americans because Africans will come to America believing this is some common term used to refer to them , when it is by no way common. I doubt the average Black American under 35 have ever heard it or know where it comes from.


The only reason u feel so optimistic of tourism is because you are an idealistic America. You have the mindset that Americans waltzing into a coming spending their few dollars is a godsend to the people of that country when it isnt. 90 % of all of that money is owned and controlled by white foreigners and the top 10% and that is who it benefits. You dont know what its like to be a foreigner in your own country . Most of the tourist areas are off limits to locals either due to being over priced or blatantly restricted . Just because u see some old lady selling trinkets or working in a restaurant does not mean it benefits the local population. It doesnt because all the resources are directed towards maintaining those are and making sure the tourist are appeased . Those tourist areas price everything basically in USD but pays the workers local minimum wage ($10 day[b:

) I can tell u have never traveled and if u have never had any connection to whats going on w/ the locals.[/b] This is the same throughout MOST of the Caribbean. Bahamas and Jamaica same way once you leave the resorts.Then they blame us of being drug traffickers and whores. YES , according to most tourist they see our women in these tourist spots of ALL being whores.

Like I say sister we see the world through different lenses through different life experiences. I see u as being sheltered and never actually being outside of that American bubble. I say that with respect because it is common w/ our people. The level of propaganda fed to us in the US is sickening once u open your eyes. The worst part is that we are complicit in the promotion of this propaganda and negative stereotypes.

I just advise you to travel period . There is no better time that now , do not continue procrastinating and your world views will change


Brother,
I'm confused by your first paragraph.
I wa stating MY EXPERIENCE growing up as a kid/teen in the 80s until the mid 90s.
So that puts me in the age bracket of between 37-41 years of age.
I stated that "blacks" meaning Black Americans...called me an "African booty scratcher" on more than 1 occasion..due to my dad being an African.
Black Americans called each other the word...but especially if you were African or had any direct African descent
I then said that the Africans that I encountered didn't think I was "African" enough.
I actually forgot to say that growing up in the deep and racist Southern... (portion of the U.S.), I was called a "nigger" by some white children on a few occasions.
So, just as I can't take away your own experiences in life, neither can you mine.
I'm very aware of "Boys N The Hood", a movie that i was obsessed with back in 92' - the year it opened in theaters (and when I was either 13 or 14) and which I saw multiple times. Yes.."African booty scratcher " was used in it. But no sir, it did not originate from that movie.
It was a derogatory term used by Black Americans to further propagate the stereotypes held about Africans. It was one of the ultimate insults used in the Black American community next to "yo mama" jokes...and absolutely NO black person wanted to be called that.
Regardless of its origin, it was a derogatory and insulting word.
So you can pretend sir....that it wasn't that deep...but as someone who lived it....it most definitely was.
There was absolutely nothing "false" about it.

Excuse me that I live in an American "bubble" that says that not only white people have a right to enjoy a beautiful vacation in a crystal clear blue water, golden sand filled, palm tree and fresh-fruit, saltfish and aki, gorgeous sun filled skies, warm weathered Caribbean.
I'm sorry that shanty-towns exist probably 5 miles away from the resorts. I'm sorry there are so many disparages between the visitors and locals.
It's sad that some Europeans (male and female) come to enjoy sex-for-pay from the locals...then call them sex machines..
It's very unfair. Life is unfair.
So look to see how you can change it....
But don't be so bitter. I can feel your bitterness through my computer screen.

It's funny how you can deduce that I haven't travelled...
You are very wrong.
I haven't travelled to predominantly black islands and countries...but I am not ignorant to some of their plights.
I'd rather hear solutions though rather than repeated problems.
Yes we think differently..and that's perfectly fine.
Was taken "aback" by what seems to be your hostility towards me...wasn't expecting that.
You can please take it doen a notch for me.
This doesn't have to be an argument...


Oh...and as I stated, I will be travelling and visiting black islands and countries.
But my primary target for now is only Nigeria.
I've been talking about it since i joined the site in Dec. 2016..
When I do things, I try to do things decently and in order...well-prepared. It's not a procrastination thing at all. There's a time for everything. My excitement doesn't negate the fact that all sorts of factors have to play into my visit which will happen....
But I'd be a real fool to release that info here....
I've learned my lesson about certain things.
Blessings sir...
Now you enjoy yourself once you land on the "mother-land".
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jan 07
TheBossTrevor,
Haven't forgotten you. Will reply you a little later. Hope I haven't derailed Mr. Akata's thread.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 11:35pm On Jan 07
thebosstrevor:


interesting, I see, in my opinion, when I hear the word brother from a stranger especially when I know he or she is Nigerian, don't get me wrong, we have a lot of good people here, but experience has taught me to run for my life, I have been "brothered" and scammed by some of my countrymen. I am always very alert when people use that word around me,

anyway, from video contents, I have watched about African-Americans, I understood the concept of brother/sister as a word used by black Americans radicals and militants to acknowledge the struggle they went through to be accepted as citizens in the US. it is just an opinion. one of my favourite guy in the struggle is Malcome X, I don't agree with some of his philosophy but some of his words inspired me.

it seems, you are very religious, are you a member of any sect and when did you start being so religious? i could dissect your personality just from what you wrote down
.


On the issue of identity crisis, there are also many Nigerians who do not know where they come from cant speak their native languages and do not understand their native cultures, it is very common among people living in the south of Nigeria,
i think this was because of colonisation, the Northern part of Nigeria have been able to protect their identity and way of life, culture is very strong there. about 99% of them are strong on their culture and religion[b]. (do you know you can get your Nigerian passport if you want, you can ask your dad [/b]
this is the site (https://immigration.gov.ng/) or check in at the Nigerian embassy wherever you live).

on the issue of social media, I understand tech and I work in tech but to be sincere with you, I don't own any of the social media account again because of its toxicity, when I did own one, I noticed the increase in my anxiety and depression, so I decided to delete my account on all social media sites except NL, I guess maybe because I support anything Nigeria, if you don't mind, you can watch this video on the toxicity of social media by sam Vakins a known psychologist -Sam Vaknin: the TRUE toxicity of social media revealed (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmXcjvL9VSc)

if I may ask, what are some of the bad choices you made last year? very curious to know.



Thanks for the questions.
Well I can assure you this: I use the term in a positive way. You might need to go through my posts to see how i feel about scammers and deception. I've become a whole lot more vigilante since joining this site and being warned. I guess folks think I'm obsessed...but I'm quite sure if it was them, they'd do a lot more than me.
You may get tired of reading about what i wrote...lol.
I totally get what you are saying though.
But let me point you to the fact that MrAkata used the word "brotha" in one of his posts to you a few days ago. Did you not see it? Cause I'm quite confused that I got questioned about the word But it's ok.

Yes Malcolm X....one of the most powerful black leaders in the 60's. I remember my high school history class going to the theater to see the movie back in the mid 90's. What a movie!
I didn't agree with his theology but he was such a powerful orator....and it seemed he loved his people.

If you get time, feel free to browse through my comments and/or threads. You will see what denomination I belong to.
I'm not really keen on the word "sect" cause it reminds me of a "cult".
First and foremost, I love the Lord Jesus Christ.
My life has had its ups and downs....I've made plenty of mistakes/wrong choices....
But my Savior died for all of my sins....so I am forever grateful and am trying to live a life pleasing to Him.

Interesting statement about Nigerians (in the Southern portion of Nigeria) not knowing their identities. I would've never thought that. Wonder why that is?

Oh thanks for the info about the passport.
Yes I know and have all of the necessary info. Got all of that a few months ago.
I can even apply for dual-citizenship...how awesome is that!!!

I will try and check out the video about social media.
Social media can be a very good thing. I'm not opposed to it entirely...especially if it's being used in a positive way. Just that for me...I don't need the extra distraction and temptation. Nairaland is quite enough.

All I will say about past mistakes is that I don't want to repeat them.I have always been a little too trusting without requiring people to earn my trust. Not to sound arrogant or conceited but it's okay to have boundaries...
Everyone's not gonna be my friend...in this life.
That's unrealistic and dangerous to let everyone in.
Also I revealed way too much about myself with multiple people not doing the same.
That mistake has cost me dearly.
I placed simple expectations on people that they clearly could not fulfill.
I expected people to treat me as I had treated them...but I was deeply disappointed.
So it's a brand new year..clean slate... (thank God) and I'm really feeling very positive about the future. But I have to place boundaries around my life in some areas...and do self-introspections also...areas where I need improvement.
Hope this answered everything.
Blessings
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by momoyama: 12:18am On Jan 08
[quote author=MrAkata post=74541848][/quote]

You are lost. Minimum wage in the Bahamas $10 a day?? It is $5.50 an hour and set to rise later this year.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by momoyama: 12:27am On Jan 08
MrAkata:
Oh...well that's unfortunate that you agree with your Nigerian brother about "me"...lol.
But yes, you are right....men and women are wired differently. Isn't that a lovely difference?
But the brother on the thread was in support of you relocating there; he was just giving you "tips" on how to navigate through Lagos or Abuja.

So you are a Caribbean American...very cool.
So both of your parents are from the Caribbean...but you were born and bred in the U.S.
I have never heard of Garifuna people...but that's quite interesting. If you are from New York, there is a huge West Indian population there...if I'm not mistaken.


I'm truly African American. My mom was Black American and my dad's Igbo.
I've always had some difficulty cause growing up the black folks called me an "African bootie-scratcher" undecided
Then the very few Africans (including western and eastern Africans) I encountered where I lived, didn't think I was "African" enough due to my mom.
So it's been a challenge...
I've practically only identified as a Black American...although my name is fully Nigerian.

Perhaps that's why I'm so keen on visiting my other half and immersing myself in the culture that I really don't know too much about.

I laugh about the "akata" word too.
At first, I was offended...but later I actually started liking the word and thought it was cute.
Lots of black foreigners have lots to say about Black Americans... (some of which is founded...some of which is not).
I can't even imagine what islanders call Black Americans..lol.

I just laughed reading the guy on this thread who allegedly didn't know what "akata" meant..lol.
I find that extremely hard to believe....lol. But so he says...
One of my dad's friends (who is from Edo state) was visiting 1 weekend about 5 months ago and he started speaking about an "akata this and akata that"...
Then he looked at me (although I'm also Nigerian) and said, "Oops I'm sorry."
I just laughed and said that it was no problem.
Now he himself is married to an "Oyibo/Oyinbo" ( another word(s) I learned here on N.L.), and his kids will probably be called "akatas" AND "oyibos"...but he couldn't help himself using the word.
I had found out (about 2 years ago..the time i had asked my das about "akata"wink that he absolutely knows the word and definition.
But see, I was clueless because he has never in my entire life used it in our household.

So see I have actual aunts, uncles, tons of cousins (some of whom I've spoken to on the phone) etc. that I'd like to meet. I would never come to Nigeria to take some pics to post on Instagram to connect with my "roots" briefly. I don't even do social media...other than N.L.
It's not a photo-op. It's my real life..real tangible roots...real blood.
But I do believe tourism should be for all people. Why not have blacks come and enjoy tge beauty of the island (food, shopping, amusements etc)...you know the "clean stuff" which could pump money into the economy? Every little bit helps right?

I know Nigeria is a huge market place....so do lots and lots of other folks. I'm first interested in the people..then the culture...then other things can fall inti place.
But neither I nor the other guy was trying to discourage you from going there to Nigeria to make an economic impact nor were we trying to "come for you", as was stated.
I wish you the best...



I really wish Africans would stop spreading this false narrative of Black Americans calling Africans "African Booty Scratchers" That is so childish and completely blown out of proportion. That phrase is almost 30 years old and was not created to disrespect Africans. That was a phrase from a movie BOYZ N DA HOOD used between two Black Americans to disrespect each other. Black Americans called each other that as children in elementary school. No adults or even teenagers used that phrase loosely to address Africans in particulars. Honestly most Black Americans never even met an African in America. I feel that narrative of Americans using that term adds to the division and tension between Africans and African Americans because Africans will come to America believing this is some common term used to refer to them , when it is by no way common. I doubt the average Black American under 35 have ever heard it or know where it comes from.

The only reason u feel so optimistic of tourism is because you are an idealistic America. You have the mindset that Americans waltzing into a coming spending their few dollars is a godsend to the people of that country when it isnt. 90 % of all of that money is owned and controlled by white foreigners and the top 10% and that is who it benefits. You dont know what its like to be a foreigner in your own country . Most of the tourist areas are off limits to locals either due to being over priced or blatantly restricted . Just because u see some old lady selling trinkets or working in a restaurant does not mean it benefits the local population. It doesnt because all the resources are directed towards maintaining those are and making sure the tourist are appeased . Those tourist areas price everything basically in USD but pays the workers local minimum wage ($10 day) I can tell u have never traveled and if u have never had any connection to whats going on w/ the locals. This is the same throughout MOST of the Caribbean. bahamas and Jamaica same way once you leave the resorts. Then they blame us of being drug traffickers and whores. YES , according to most tourist they see our women in these tourist spots of ALL being whores.

Like I say sister we see the world through different lenses through different life experiences. I see u as being sheltered and never actually being outside of that American bubble. I say that with respect because it is common w/ our people. The level of propaganda fed to us in the US is sickening once u open your eyes. The worst part is that we are complicit in the promotion of this propaganda and negative stereotypes.

I just advise you to travel period . There is no better time that now , do not continue procrastinating and your world views will change.
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You are lost. Minimum wage in the Bahamas is $10 a day? Try $5.50 an hour. Where do you get your information, exactly? Obviously not by direct experience or travel. Inside the resorts AND outside the resorts we use US dollars, which trade 1 to 1 with Bahamian dollars. You accuse Americans of being ignorant and unexposed, but you seem so yourself.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 12:38am On Jan 08
Mobilia:


Thanks for the questions.
Well I can assure you this: I use the term in a positive way. You might need to go through my posts to see how i feel about scammers and deception. I've become a whole lot more vigilante since joining this site and being warned. I guess folks think I'm obsessed...but I'm quite sure if it was them, they'd do a lot more than me.
You may get tired of reading about what i wrote...lol.
I totally get what you are saying though.
But let me point you to the fact that MrAkata used the word "brotha" in one of his posts to you a few days ago. Did you not see it? Cause I'm quite confused that I got questioned about the word But it's ok.

Yes Malcolm X....one of the most powerful black leaders in the 60's. I remember my high school history class going to the theater to see the movie back in the mid 90's. What a movie!
I didn't agree with his theology but he was such a powerful orator....and it seemed he loved his people.

If you get time, feel free to browse through my comments and/or threads. You will see what denomination I belong to.
I'm not really keen on the word "sect" cause it reminds me of a "cult".
First and foremost, I love the Lord Jesus Christ.
My life has had its ups and downs....I've made plenty of mistakes/wrong choices....
But my Savior died for all of my sins....so I am forever grateful and am trying to live a life pleasing to Him.

Interesting statement about Nigerians (in the Southern portion of Nigeria) not knowing their identities. I would've never thought that. Wonder why that is?

Oh thanks for the info about the passport.
Yes I know and have all of the necessary info. Got all of that a few months ago.
I can even apply for dual-citizenship...how awesome is that!!!

I will try and check out the video about social media.
Social media can be a very good thing. I'm not opposed to it entirely...especially if it's being used in a positive way. Just that for me...I don't need the extra distraction and temptation. Nairaland is quite enough.

All I will say about past mistakes is that I don't want to repeat them.I have always been a little too trusting without requiring people to earn my trust. Not to sound arrogant or conceited but it's okay to have boundaries...
Everyone's not gonna be my friend...in this life.
That's unrealistic and dangerous to let everyone in.
Also I revealed way too much about myself with multiple people not doing the same.
That mistake has cost me dearly.
I placed simple expectations on people that they clearly could not fulfill.
I expected people to treat me as I had treated them...but I was deeply disappointed.
So it's a brand new year..clean slate... (thank God) and I'm really feeling very positive about the future. But I have to place boundaries around my life in some areas...and do self-introspections also...areas where I need improvement.
Hope this answered everything.
Blessings


I kind of feel that you have been welcomed on NL by some of our "Honourable citizen" whose main job is to scam and use you as an escape route to the states. never mind, i have read some of your thread, I can say I was surprised by how fast our citizens especially our young men have been able to track you down and made you reveal some personal information about your self, some might even come as Christians but their main goal is to get hold of you anyway, I know you have become smarter and wiser.

on the issue on your domination, i didn't take the time to check about that but I know you are very active in the religion section this info I got from your profile, I am not a religious person and do not believe in Christianity or Islam, I practise my own spirituality(ATR) which I learnt from my grandfather and it is something I believe in not religiously but logically, its more important to me at the moment, anyway, I love the concept and philosophy behind it.

in respect to the south and some part of the west and east, losing some part of their culture, I guess, this is due to immigration, intermarriage and also the Christianisation of those areas, the colonial masters made sure to demonise their culture, way of life, it is common in many homes for parent to teach their ward English instead of their native languages thus leading to the death of their languages, some of them look down on their culture as inferior and sometimes try as much as possible not to have anything to do with the culture, as i have said earlier, intermarriages and immigration is also a factor why some of them lost their culture. i think reading things fall apart by Chinua Achebe might give you a clue. (I am sure you must have read that novel)

(Note: according to some Nigerians westernization is civilisation while our native culture is primitive, LOL.

regarding, the word brother, i noticed Mr akata used the word, but didnt give a damn because i understood his motive but yours was everywhere, i needed to hear your opinion about the word especially since you said you considered yourself as african-american.wanted to know how you guys use the word.

on the part where, you wrote about mistakes and trusting and not getting it in retun, i understand where you are coming from and i think maybe from your personal relationships with people or basically your private life, if you know what i mean but anyway, learn to forgive yourself.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by MrAkata: 10:40am On Jan 08
momoyama:


You are lost. Minimum wage in the Bahamas is $10 a day? Try $5.50 an hour. Where do you get your information, exactly? Obviously not by direct experience or travel. Inside the resorts AND outside the resorts we use US dollars, which trade 1 to 1 with Bahamian dollars. You accuse Americans of being ignorant and unexposed, but you seem so yourself.

Did I say I was from the Bahamas ?? I never specified which Caribbean country I was from . The Minimum wage is 1.60 where Im from. I just mentioned Bahamas as an alternative suggestion to countries w/ tourism. From the outside it looks good but the average Bahamian is not living in those areas and only the ones who are in those areas benefit from it. Ive been to the Bahamas over 5 x's and never stayed in a hotel . Ive walked the streets of New Providence my self . Ive stayed "over the hill" and I can tell you it is not a depiction of what u see on brochures.

Bahamas tourism can not compare to the tourism where Im from. It is a bad comparison but none the less represents what I see on a larger scale. income inequality in these tourist destinations do not compare . $5 minimum wage doesnt mean poo when everything is priced like you are Miami

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by momoyama: 10:51am On Jan 08
MrAkata:


Did I say I was from the Bahamas ?? I never specified which Caribbean country I was from . The Minimum wage is 1.60 where Im from. I just mentioned Bahamas as an alternative suggestion to countries w/ tourism. From the outside it looks good but the average Bahamian is not living in those areas and only the ones who are in those areas benefit from it. Ive been to the Bahamas over 10 x's and never stayed in a hotel . Ive walked the streets of New Providence my self . Ive stayed "over the hill" and I can tell you it is not a depiction of what u see on brochures.

Bahamas tourism can not compare to the tourism where Im from. It is a bad comparison but none the less represents what I see on a larger scale. income inequality in these tourist destinations do not compare .

Minimum wage in the Bahamas ,yes but the price in Bahamas is 2x's more expensive than what u would find in America. Even groceries in the Bahamas are extremely expensive .

Since u know so much , show me an example of the price of living in Bahamas to America . When even the locals make $5 an hour but the cost of living is just as high as Miami

I understand your general point, but the Bahamas is a bad example. I never said you said you were from the Bahamas. I am from the Bahamas, though, and felt the need to correct the impression that it is somehow a country where the average person is not benefiting from the tourism sector.

I also agree with you that it is a very expensive country. But, although the minimum wage is only $5.50 an hour, very few people make that little and those that do are generally illegal immigrants (from Haiti, Jamaica etc.) the average wage is $14.00 an hour.

Because of its small population, tourism has done the Bahamas very well (it has the highest human development of any black country and - together with Barbados- is the only black country that is ranked by the UN as "very high human development). Bahamians can travel visa free o anywhere in Europe, North America, Japan, China etc. because of this, and inward immigration is massive.

Also, it is not only tourism but international shipping and financial services (banking) that dominate the economy.

I am not attacking your greater point, which has some validity. Am just pointing out that my country hardly fits the bill of your generalization.

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by urahara(m): 6:09pm On Jan 08
momoyama:


I understand your general point, but the Bahamas is a bad example. I never said you said you were from the Bahamas. I am from the Bahamas, though, and felt the need to correct the impression that it is somehow a country where the average person is not benefiting from the tourism sector.

I also agree with you that it is a very expensive country. But, although the minimum wage is only $5.50 an hour, very few people make that little and those that do are generally illegal immigrants (from Haiti, Jamaica etc.) the average wage is $14.00 an hour.

Because of its small population, tourism has done the Bahamas very well (it has the highest human development of any black country and - together with Barbados- is the only black country that is ranked by the UN as "very high human development). Bahamians can travel visa free o anywhere in Europe, North America, Japan, China etc. because of this, and inward immigration is massive.

Also, it is not only tourism but international shipping and financial services (banking) that dominate the economy.

I am not attacking your greater point, which has some validity. Am just pointing out that my country hardly fits the bill of your generalization.

I heard because of Bahamas small size , it's very easy for immigration officers to fish illegal migrants , how true is that ? grin grin grin
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by MrAkata: 6:10pm On Jan 08
momoyama:


I understand your general point, but the Bahamas is a bad example. I never said you said you were from the Bahamas. I am from the Bahamas, though, and felt the need to correct the impression that it is somehow a country where the average person is not benefiting from the tourism sector.

I also agree with you that it is a very expensive country. But, although the minimum wage is only $5.50 an hour, very few people make that little and those that do are generally illegal immigrants (from Haiti, Jamaica etc.) the average wage is $14.00 an hour.

Because of its small population, tourism has done the Bahamas very well (it has the highest human development of any black country and - together with Barbados- is the only black country that is ranked by the UN as "very high human development). Bahamians can travel visa free o anywhere in Europe, North America, Japan, China etc. because of this, and inward immigration is massive.

Also, it is not only tourism but international shipping and financial services (banking) that dominate the economy.

I am not attacking your greater point, which has some validity. Am just pointing out that my country hardly fits the bill of your generalization.


Yeah it was a bad example because it has more going on. I was really speaking of Belize where my family is from . We dont have poo going on there . Financial Services as well but doesnt concern to average person because most the bankers are foreigners because most their customers are white .Our minimum wage is not even $2 and to find work u must go work in the tourist section . Which are primarily located on the islands (Ambergis or Caye Caulker) isolated from the general population . Not to mention when the big resorts go up a majority of the time they bring their own workers with them . So the only jobs we would be able to get are the lowest grunt work if any

I spent a lot of time in the Bahamas in the 90's early 2k and like I say never stayed in a hotel . I was born and raised in Miami so my whole childhood was w/ Jamaicans and Bahamians . So Ive been around to say the least . My history of Bahamas goes b4 the Haitians were what they r now . Jamaicans were the ones at the bottom( and top) of the Bahamas(no disrespect). My Bahamian friends were mostly Jamaicans and Newbolds but I got see EVERYTHING when it came to the Bahamas. I never experienced the Bahamas through the eyes of a tourist.

Respect bredda
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by momoyama: 10:35pm On Jan 08
urahara:


I heard because of Bahamas small size , it's very easy for immigration officers to fish illegal migrants , how true is that ? grin grin grin

Quite true, but still many illegal immigrants are present. 300 Haitians were caught coming ashore on boats and repatriated so far this year.

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by momoyama: 10:36pm On Jan 08
Thanks for your response. I have never been to Belize, but it is perhaps the country in the region that has intrigued me the most.

Respect

MrAkata:



Yeah it was a bad example because it has more going on. I was really speaking of Belize where my family is from . We dont have poo going on there . Financial Services as well but doesnt concern to average person because most the bankers are foreigners because most their customers are white .Our minimum wage is not even $2 and to find work u must go work in the tourist section . Which are primarily located on the islands (Ambergis or Caye Caulker) isolated from the general population . Not to mention when the big resorts go up a majority of the time they bring their own workers with them . So the only jobs we would be able to get are the lowest grunt work if any

I spent a lot of time in the Bahamas in the 90's early 2k and like I say never stayed in a hotel . I was born and raised in Miami so my whole childhood was w/ Jamaicans and Bahamians . So Ive been around to say the least . My history of Bahamas goes b4 the Haitians were what they r now . Jamaicans were the ones at the bottom( and top) of the Bahamas(no disrespect). My Bahamian friends were mostly Jamaicans and Newbolds but I got see EVERYTHING when it came to the Bahamas. I never experienced the Bahamas through the eyes of a tourist.

Respect bredda
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jan 09
thebosstrevor:


I kind of feel that you have been welcomed on NL by some of our "Honourable citizen" whose main job is to scam and use you as an escape route to the states. never mind, i have read some of your thread, I can say I was surprised by how fast our citizens especially our young men have been able to track you down and made you reveal some personal information about your self, some might even come as Christians but their main goal is to get hold of you anyway, I know you have become smarter and wiser.

on the issue on your domination, i didn't take the time to check about that but I know you are very active in the religion section this info I got from your profile, I am not a religious person and do not believe in Christianity or Islam, I practise my own spirituality(ATR) which I learnt from my grandfather and it is something I believe in not religiously but logically, its more important to me at the moment, anyway, I love the concept and philosophy behind it.

in respect to the south and some part of the west and east, losing some part of their culture, I guess, this is due to immigration, intermarriage and also the Christianisation of those areas
, the colonial masters made sure to demonise their culture, way of life, it is common in many homes for parent to teach their ward English instead of their native languages thus leading to the death of their languages, some of them look down on their culture as inferior and sometimes try as much as possible not to have anything to do with the culture, as i have said earlier, intermarriages and immigration is also a factor why some of them lost their culture. i think reading things fall apart by Chinua Achebe might give you a clue. (I am sure you must have read that novel)

(Note: according to some Nigerians westernization is civilisation while our native culture is primitive, LOL.

regarding, the word brother, i noticed Mr akata used the word, but didnt give a damn because i understood his motive but yours was everywhere, i needed to hear your opinion about the word especially since you said you considered yourself as african-american.wanted to know how you guys use the word.

on the part where, you wrote about mistakes and trusting and not getting it in retun, i understand where you are coming from and i think maybe from your personal relationships with people or basically your private life, if you know what i mean but anyway, learn to forgive yourself.


Oh yes...I am very active on the Religion section. It, actually was my first stop when I originally joined Nairaland 2 years ago. Then I ventured into other sections and made several, several comments.
I would say that I surrendered to Christ when I was around 22 years of age....
That would make sense that so many factors would effect a loss of cultural identity for so many Nigerians.

I understand how you may feel about wanting to preserve your culture...and have chosen to worship or not worship how you choose. Of course, I would advocate for you to develop a relationship with Christ (for obvious reasons wink but I also believe in "freewill" or choice for anyone.

Oh my....don't even let me get started on "Things Fall Apart"! Talk about a masterpiece! I really don't think that Dr. Achebe could have written anything better than that story...that was his book to go down in history.
The book is required reading in most U.S. high schools and colleges/universities.
I read the book...and then re-read it...and then re-read it! I was like what is going on here? Why is this so good?
It's like I became mesmerized when reading the book..lol.
So can you tell I loved that book...lol?

Well I, personally, also use the word "brother" and "sister" when referring to older church members, random Christians etc....
So anyhow that I use it, it's meant in a loving, positive way.

Yes...forgiveness is such a powerful trait. Asking for it or receiving it does so much for one's soul.
Blessings..
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 8:47pm On Jan 09
Mobilia:


Oh yes...I am very active on the Religion section. It, actually was my first stop when I originally joined Nairaland 2 years ago. Then I ventured into other sections and made several, several comments.
I would say that I surrendered to Christ when I was around 22 years of age....
That would make sense that so many factors would effect a loss of cultural identity for so many Nigerians.

I understand how you may feel about wanting to preserve your culture...and have chosen to worship or not worship how you choose. Of course, I would advocate for you to develop a relationship with Christ (for obvious reasons wink but I also believe in "freewill" or choice for anyone.

Oh my....don't even let me get started on "Things Fall Apart"! Talk about a masterpiece! I really don't think that Dr. Achebe could have written anything better than that story...that was his book to go down in history.
The book is required reading in most U.S. high schools and colleges/universities.
I read the book...and then re-read it...and then re-read it! I was like what is going on here? Why is this so good?
It's like I became mesmerized when reading the book..lol.
So can you tell I loved that book...lol?

Well I, personally, also use the word "brother" and "sister" when referring to older church members, random Christians etc....
So anyhow that I use it, it's meant in a loving, positive way.

Yes...forgiveness is such a powerful trait. Asking for it or receiving it does so much for one's soul.
Blessings..

A very interesting read

but anyway, i have chosen what I think, is right for me, you know my spirituality is something I believe a lot, it is very realistic, for example, we do not believe in satan, we believe man and women were sent to the earth to make the earth better, also we believe any evil on earth is made and done by man(man and woman), we also believe in personal responsibility. when you sit down and critically think about it, it is true, we humans are the one destroying ourselves and also our kind.

In my opinion, Christianity is too complex and complicated for me, don't get me wrong, I have gone through the Christian phrase of life and i couldn't just understand it, for example, Nigeria is a very religious place but damn, the level of corruption is too high, pastors enriching themselves while the poor are getting poorer every day, when I see all these things, it makes sad. but funny enough, the west(Europeans) who are not so religious have a lower corruption rate than us. I think I am being realistic, I believe in the real world, life is simple, but we humans have made it difficult for ourselves.

regarding things fall apart, the beauty of this novel was its originality and authenticity, it tells a real Nigerian story. after the book I think maybe he lost his writing touch maybe due to the fame and popularity, he was I guess 29 when he wrote that book,it could also be the effect of early success, the inability to create something spectacular than the last one( a one hit wonder) but anyway, he will be remembered for ages. I know that in many African countries, his book his a must read for every student, I didn't know it is also a must in the US, that is great, respect to the man. I will advise you read another great book by another Nigeria author(Wale Soyinka) The Trials of Brother Jero, a very interesting and short play, then Americana by Chimamanda Adichie

anyway, nice talking to you, sincerely speaking, it will be nice to meet you in Nigeria when you arrive, but anyway, if you feel you wanna continue the chat, you can send me a reply and I will answer them. (Merci)
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by morpheus24: 11:26pm On Jan 09
jantavanta:


@Mobilia, I have been following your conversation with @bosstrevor and @MrAkata

As you are set to discover Nigeria, be prepared for a country that is still trying to discover itself. Most of what we know is what we have been told in History books written by victorious Mr Colonizer. You may in the process discover some things which we do not know. I am always open to that. You have a Nigerian parent, so you do not have to go through the Ancient Egyptian route to discover Africa.

It gets to a stage in Life, after struggling to pass exams and getting a job, accommodation, spouse, etc. one begins to ask "Who am I in this world?". I think Sisters tend to ask that question more than Brothers, as observed by @MrAkata. Perhaps it is a division of labour among genders.

@MrAkata in interested in business. No problem. Every possible link is useful in doing business, be it academic, cultural, recreational. There is something called business culture, which varies from place to place. Some places, it is to meet in a restaurant. In some places, it is to know each other's house. So, how do we eliminate culture in trying to do business? Sometimes, the mere mention of a favourite English Premier league football club could even foster a business relationship. We all human.


[B]@morpheus24 and @bosstrevor seem having the age-old Lagos Islander versus Lagos Mainlander "battle for supremacy". Maybe it is similar to that of West Coast vs East Coast in USA. smiley[/B]

I have to go for lunch. Welcome to Nigeria, the Origin of Life.

I have lived on the mainland and on the Island and actually travelled as far as Badagry to Agbara estate for Business, I actually prefer the mainland as it reflects the true sense of Lagos far better than the Island does. There is no battle for supremacy. All I try to correct is that the insistence that Lagos is culture-less and its all about the hustle. Yes Gidi is a hustle town driven my money but Gidi also has a "culture"you must embrace in other to survive there. Neglect it at your own peril

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by jantavanta(m): 4:59pm On Jan 10
thebosstrevor:


I like what you wrote about the business culture, .......
.....for the supremacy battle, maybe, but I noticed the value system has gone down, i don't understand why but something is wrong somewhere even with the abundance of churches and mosques in Lagos, those days of family reputation and name is dying gradually, ........

@thebosstrevor You are observing contradictions that emanate from the master plan of Mr Colonizer. They dumped on us what they were fed up with, to evacuate natural resources. They knew we have the origin of Divinity, so they immersed us in the Deification of White Supremacy, to disconnect us from African Spirituality and render us economic slaves.

We have imported our Gods, so we must seek foreign exchange at an increasing rate to import our needs from them, enriching some few Nigerians. We abandoned Black soap for Joy soap; Locust Beans for Maggi; Agbo (herbal drink) for Chloroquine. undecided

morpheus24:

I have lived on the mainland and on the Island ..... ...There is no battle for supremacy . All I try to correct is that the insistence that Lagos is culture-less and its all about the hustle. ...... Neglect it at your own peril

@morpheus wink I was just just being alarmist to spice up the conversation. Yes, culture is like a compass in 'Gidi.

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Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 6:52pm On Jan 10
jantavanta:


@thebosstrevor You are observing contradictions that emanate from the master plan of Mr Colonizer. They dumped on us what they were fed up with, to evacuate natural resources. They knew we have the origin of Divinity, so they immersed us in the Deification of White Supremacy, to disconnect us from African Spirituality and render us economic slaves.

We have imported our Gods, so we must seek foreign exchange at an increasing rate to import our needs from them, enriching some few Nigerians. We abandoned Black soap for Joy soap; Locust Beans for Maggi; Agbo (herbal drink) for Chloroquine. undecided




i wont say it is white supremacy, it is long gone, people should start taking personal responsibility for their act, i am just damn tire of the churches, they are suppose to be the example unto the masses but it seems it is a place for the pastor to enrich themselves, if the churches can caution their members and the mosque,maybe the future of nigeria will be better

but both the home and the churches and mosques have failed us, they are now where the corrupt go to show their wealth while the pastors and imams bless them. parent who suppose to be an example to their children are just not concerned. personal and moral responsibility is what is missing, we must accept the importance of standards that society establishes for individual behaviour and to make sure we make strenuous personal efforts to live by those standards.
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jan 10
[quote author=thebosstrevor post=74608038]

regarding things fall apart, the beauty of this novel was its originality and authenticity, it tells a real Nigerian story. after the book I think maybe he lost his writing touch maybe due to the fame and popularity, he was I guess 29 when he wrote that book,it could also be the effect of early success, the inability to create something spectacular than the last one( a one hit wonder) but anyway, he will be remembered for ages. I know that in many African countries, his book his a must read for every student, I didn't know it is also a must in the US, that is great, respect to the man. I will advise you read another great book by another Nigeria author(Wale Soyinka) The Trials of Brother Jero, a very interesting and short play, then Americana by Chimamanda Adichie

[b]anyway, nice talking to you, sincerely speaking, it will be nice to meet you in Nigeria when you arrive, but anyway, if you feel you wanna continue the chat, you can send me a reply and I will answer them. (Merci)[quote]

BossTrevor,
(Merci beaucoup) for the book/play suggestions (I've heard of Pro. Soyinka and Dr. Adichie) and the chat also....
If I have any more questions in the future, I won't hesistate to ask you sir!
You take care...
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by thebosstrevor: 9:17pm On Jan 10
Mobilia:
[quote author=thebosstrevor post=74608038]

regarding things fall apart, the beauty of this novel was its originality and authenticity, it tells a real Nigerian story. after the book I think maybe he lost his writing touch maybe due to the fame and popularity, he was I guess 29 when he wrote that book,it could also be the effect of early success, the inability to create something spectacular than the last one( a one hit wonder) but anyway, he will be remembered for ages. I know that in many African countries, his book his a must read for every student, I didn't know it is also a must in the US, that is great, respect to the man. I will advise you read another great book by another Nigeria author(Wale Soyinka) The Trials of Brother Jero, a very interesting and short play, then Americana by Chimamanda Adichie

[b]anyway, nice talking to you, sincerely speaking, it will be nice to meet you in Nigeria when you arrive, but anyway, if you feel you wanna continue the chat, you can send me a reply and I will answer them. (Merci)

anyway, you are welcomed

i feel so old when you wrote SIRsmiley i am still very energetic and young grin grin grin

take care too)
Re: Akata Planning To Relocate To Nigeria by Nobody: 12:54am On Jan 11
thebosstrevor:


anyway, you are welcomed

i feel so old when you wrote SIRsmiley i am still very energetic and young grin grin grin

take care too)



Oh no worries..."sir" is a term used as a form of respect in the American culture.... (although, historically, it has been labeled a controversial term....)
But I look at it as an endearing form of respect.
It's basically likened to you guys' use of the word "oga".
Aren't you a "boss"...lol?
Anyhow, I could tell you were young...lol...with all due respect wink
You know, it's not a bad thing to mature in age. With age "should " come wisdom.
Of course, you do know the other alternative to growing "older" unfortunately embarassed

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