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God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 11:13pm On Jan 05
Yes you read it right: “God is dead”.

I just created this account after about 2 years since i deleted my previous account. Although i try to browse through nairaland as often as i can for news, information and education, i do so as a guest. I’m however appalled at how religion has taking hold of our brains such that we no longer see the reality and how this vicious and viral pill called religion is a barrier to our progressive mentation as well as it being a threat to our moral and ethical sustenance. Anyone who is Educated should be able to perceive the disadvantages of religion. The disadvantages of religion outweighs the advantages.

Religion has been given a free ride for too long particularly in this part of the world without being checkmated. Every other thing can be criticized except your “God”.

I’m sure there’s is an innocent, naive child out there being brainwashed into this mental slavery and totalitarian cults called religion. Some fanatics will try to defend their religious convictions saying; my xyz is not a religion it’s a relationship with God. My brothers and sisters, there is no known God in the heavens whom you owe any explanation, judges your thought and is responsible for your existence, let no one deceive you. I’ve met too many persons wallowing in guilt (born of the original sin they call it), depression, expecting a messiah whom has being in existence before the foundations of the earth to come and redeem. These fairytales from various religious sects with no arguments are even more insidious as they are being told to our children as facts.

The problem i observed with religion is that it’s not being seen for what it is.

As a race and as a being capable of processing thought, i think we are an endangered specie thanks to the Fanatics. The night is dark and full of evil, thanks to our Lord for he/she/it has ordained it to be so and it is by those he has elected that his kingdom of light shall be established. Cut the Crap you fanatics.

I’m an atheist but more specifically an anti deist. The purpose of this post is to create an awareness, spark a discussion, make a case that theism isn’t above criticism and as far as i’m concerned it’s nonsensical, spiteful and a debasement of the human spirit.

Thank you. You may bite me...

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Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by solite3(m): 11:22pm On Jan 05
Are you talking of religion or God? How Can What Does Not Exist die? Can you prove God does not exist?

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Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by YorubaMuslims: 11:24pm On Jan 05
FTF2069:
Yes you read it right: “God is dead”.

I just created this account after about 2 years since i deleted my previous account. Although i try to browse through nairaland as often as i can for news, information and education, i do so as a guest. I’m however appalled at how religion has taking hold of our brains such that we no longer see the reality and how this vicious and viral pill called religion is a barrier to our progressive mentation as well as it being a threat to our moral and ethical sustenance. Anyone who is Educated should be able to perceive the disadvantages of religion. The disadvantages of religion outweighs the advantages.

Religion has been given a free ride for too long particularly in this part of the world without being checkmated. Every other thing can be criticized except your “God”.

I’m sure there’s is an innocent, naive child out there being brainwashed into this mental slavery and totalitarian cults called religion. Some fanatics will try to defend their religious convictions saying; my xyz is not a religion it’s a relationship with God. My brothers and sisters, there is no known God in the heavens whom you owe any explanation, judges your thought and is responsible for your existence, let no one deceive you. I’ve met too many persons wallowing in guilt (born of the original sin they call it), depression, expecting a messiah whom has being in existence before the foundations of the earth to come and redeem. These fairytales from various religious sects with no arguments are even more insidious as they are being told to our children as facts.

The problem i observed with religion is that it’s not being seen for what it is.

As a race and as a being capable of processing thought, i think we are an endangered specie thanks to the Fanatics. The night is dark and full of evil, thanks to our Lord for he/she/it has ordained it to be so and it is by those he has elected that his kingdom of light shall be established. Cut the Crap you fanatics.

I’m an atheist but more specifically an anti deist. The purpose of this post is to create an awareness, spark a discussion, make a case that theism isn’t above criticism and as far as i’m concerned it’s nonsensical, spiteful and a debasement of the human spirit.

Thank you. You may bite me...




We don't care whether God is dead or alive since He is irrelevant.

all we need to do is vote out Buhari


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0CeMHeoejw

Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by DesChyko(m): 11:35pm On Jan 05
For him to be dead, that means he must have been alive as God which kind of negates your belief.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 11:37pm On Jan 05
solite3:
Are you talking of religion or God? How Can What Does Not Exist die? Can you prove God does not exist?

I meant that figuratively. The death isn't like a human dying.
It's to express the idea that proper education and enlightenment killed the possibility of belief in God or any gods having ever existed in our heads.

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Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 11:55pm On Jan 05
I need not to proof that God doesn't exist. The corpus you carry as the word of God crafted by con artist; men like you and I to make sure you don't see the reality in front of you.

Do you think every word in that book claimed to be from God is true. A woman got pregnant without copulation and her child is the son of the most high. Or that the prophet is sent from the Good Lord to lead us aright.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by bizza45: 11:57pm On Jan 05
Dude if u are looking for attention go to 3rd main land bridge or better go and look for pant to thief u will get all the attention u need
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 12:02am On Jan 06
bizza45:
Dude if u are looking for attention go to 3rd main land bridge or better go and look for pant to thief u will get all the attention u need

I bet you can't handle the thought of God not existing.

The severity of this virus is what is being displayed by your comment.

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Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by Niflheim(m): 8:38pm On Jan 10
Excellent post!!! Religion is like expired agbalumo in a plate of fermented piss!!!

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Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by finalboss(m): 10:33pm On Jan 10
bizza45:
Dude if u are looking for attention go to 3rd main land bridge or better go and look for pant to thief u will get all the attention u need
keep quiet and think

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Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by jesusjnr(m): 12:00am On Jan 11
FTF2069:
Yes you read it right: “God is dead”.

I just created this account after about 2 years since i deleted my previous account. Although i try to browse through nairaland as often as i can for news, information and education, i do so as a guest. I’m however appalled at how religion has taking hold of our brains such that we no longer see the reality and how this vicious and viral pill called religion is a barrier to our progressive mentation as well as it being a threat to our moral and ethical sustenance. Anyone who is Educated should be able to perceive the disadvantages of religion. The disadvantages of religion outweighs the advantages.

Religion has been given a free ride for too long particularly in this part of the world without being checkmated. Every other thing can be criticized except your “God”.

I’m sure there’s is an innocent, naive child out there being brainwashed into this mental slavery and totalitarian cults called religion. Some fanatics will try to defend their religious convictions saying; my xyz is not a religion it’s a relationship with God. My brothers and sisters, there is no known God in the heavens whom you owe any explanation, judges your thought and is responsible for your existence, let no one deceive you. I’ve met too many persons wallowing in guilt (born of the original sin they call it), depression, expecting a messiah whom has being in existence before the foundations of the earth to come and redeem. These fairytales from various religious sects with no arguments are even more insidious as they are being told to our children as facts.

The problem i observed with religion is that it’s not being seen for what it is.

As a race and as a being capable of processing thought, i think we are an endangered specie thanks to the Fanatics. The night is dark and full of evil, thanks to our Lord for he/she/it has ordained it to be so and it is by those he has elected that his kingdom of light shall be established. Cut the Crap you fanatics.

I’m an atheist but more specifically an anti deist. The purpose of this post is to create an awareness, spark a discussion, make a case that theism isn’t above criticism and as far as i’m concerned it’s nonsensical, spiteful and a debasement of the human spirit.

Thank you. You may bite me...

Where did you bury Him?
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by solite3(m): 11:46am On Jan 11
FTF2069:


I meant that figuratively. The death isn't like a human dying.
It's to express the idea that proper education and enlightenment killed the possibility of belief in God or any gods having ever existed in our heads.
yea because the true God can never die
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by rekinomtla(m): 1:33pm On Jan 11
"Fanatics, mental slavery, totalitarian cult, endangerment to our species" grin this sounds like the cult of atheism.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by orisa37: 2:21pm On Jan 11
Even if you were "Suya", I won't bite you, 'cos you are a Liar.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 5:49pm On Jan 11
rekinomtla:
"Fanatics, mental slavery, totalitarian cult, endangerment to our species" grin this sounds like the cult of atheism.
grin Thanks that made me laugh.

But like I said it's only to shed more light, deliver us from the shackles of religion.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 5:53pm On Jan 11
orisa37:
Even if you were "Suya", I won't bite you, 'cos you are a Liar.

Liar, you said. May you tell me at what point exactly.

It's only religious people I meet that blow up their convictions about a subject matter and care not about the truthfulness/correctness of their position.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 7:13pm On Jan 11
Do not let anyone belittle you for saying you don't believe in any Messiah or God anywhere.

"That you're dead until you believe like they do and that you can only live by accepting an absolute authority over life". I would urge you to look at the set of people who say these things to you as people who've lost grasp of reality, delusional with a poisoned mindset.

It's a frame work in the mind. You can imagine telling a Man/woman who believes God gave him/her the job s/he's at, saw him/her through school and believes tons of things about life on that premise called God. Imagine telling this fellow that God doesn't exist. He/She would mostly not be able to reconcile what you've just said with life. Because they've been taught for so long that an absolute authority must be in place for them to live life. It shatters their whole reason for life and existence in general. It takes a brave heart to come out of religion to a place of responsibility in thoughts and in actions.

We atheist accept we do not Know, we don't know everything, and we don't know anything as we ought to know hence the reason for our pursuit of knowledge, philosophy, science, logic because that is the only systematic process of making enquires that does not support jumping into conclusions without a justified true, documented evidence.

Religion serves the plate of deciet with the basis that the ground for relevation is that you belief in what is being served. Claims to know In entirety the universe, the creator, the particular God that designed it and even claims to know the mind of this Creator and the destiny of man as a race as its part a divine plan, That this Creator is genuinely concerned with your affairs, knows the number of hair in your pubic areas. And that this God Creator is all loving and Caring. A father they call "him". My beloved brother and sisters I'll like you to reflect on this, do you think God created man in his own image or Man created God in his own image.


Religion is a powerful force in the world. It just happens to ride on a false track of what Good, love and truth is.

Religion is what happened to you when others read the scriptures to you.

If you think every event recorded the scriptures called Bible/Qur'an is True, Good and a depiction of goodness and positivity for humanity to follow. Then you're deluded. I need not to pin point myself. But only religious people who believe they have a divine permission will ever carry out activities that not only does not benefit them, but also doesn't benefit the society.

Slavery, genital mutilation, war, Women stereotyping, are general examples of questionable acts that the Lord God who is "ever" good delights in.

Let alone of the inconsistency of the stories, lack of evidence to support it's history, and Scaring people to Hell for lack of belief in their proposed, wishful thinkings.

Let me say it here to those of you believers reading this: Your Miracles won't do it. I hope I have time to trash out these miracle thing of a topic.

We atheist accept that we don't know anything like enough yet, that we haven't understood enough, that we can't know enough. And hence we are always hungrily operating on a margin of potential harvest of greater future knowledge and wisdom, that will help and propel our world, our universe to a better place and for the greater good and convinience of her inhabitants and not to instill into people it's doom and catastrophic ending that only the belief in a religious Messiah can ease us from.

The offer of Religion, the offer of certainty, the offer of security, the offer of imperméable faith that can't give way is an offer of something not worth having.

Thank you.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by danvon(m): 10:56pm On Jan 11
lipsrsealed another one on the loose


Totalitarian cults? Sounds more like Communism product of atheism
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by orisa37: 7:19am On Jan 12
FTF2069:


Liar, you said. May you tell me at what point exactly.

It's only religious people I meet that blow up their convictions about a subject matter and care not about the truthfulness/correctness of their position.
.



Atheism is irreligious, uncharitable and complacent.
Theism is worship, charity and hunger for Bread of Life(Spirit).
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 10:51am On Jan 12
danvon:


Totalitarian cults? Sounds more like Communism product of atheism


Communism product of Atheism??.
If Marx was an Atheist, does that mean His Ideas sprouted out of Atheism, . Karl Marx was a brilliant individual, he acknowledges the benefits of Religion but the downside as well.

If Communism sounds like Totalitarian cult, then you have no idea of what it really is or supposed to be. Spend some time reading Marx's Communism manifesto.

If all you're thinking are the Stalin, Hitler etc. Those had nothing to do with atheism. In fact they were Christians that grew to have vendetta/problem with the Church and power it had over the people at that time.

You may then say, These guys were dangerous because of their Communist / Socialist / Marxist world view, which is underpinned by Atheism. It is the application of this world view, with no moral constraints that allowed them to overthrow systems of government and establish their personal ambition as the only “law”, so as to justify the murder of hundreds of millions who broke their law.

Atheism has nothing to do with that, the containment of personal inclinations toward self glorification and tyrannical oppression is a responsibility for us all. We can't lose our thinking capabilities as an alternative forgone for such. Which is what religion proposes.

The offer of Religion as a offer of certainty, as a offer of security, no matter how tempting it is, the offer of impermeable faith that can't give way; is an offer of something not worth having.

And if you think without religion, man has no Morality. I'll suggest you reassess your presupposition.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by danvon(m): 4:43pm On Jan 12
FTF2069:


Communism product of Atheism??.
If Marx was an Atheist, does that mean His Ideas sprouted out of Atheism, . Karl Marx was a brilliant individual, he acknowledges the benefits of Religion but the downside as well.

If Communism sounds like Totalitarian cult, then you have no idea of what it really is or supposed to be. Spend some time reading Marx's Communism manifesto.

If all you're thinking are the Stalin, Hitler etc. Those had nothing to do with atheism. In fact they were Christians that grew - to have vendetta/problem with the Church and power it had over the people at that time. - doesn't this sound like you

You may then say, These guys were dangerous because of their Communist / Socialist / Marxist world view, which is underpinned by Atheism. It is the application of this world view, with no moral constraints that allowed them to overthrow systems of government and establish their personal ambition as the only “law”, so as to justify the murder of hundreds of millions who broke their law.

Atheism has nothing to do with that, the containment of personal inclinations toward self glorification and tyrannical oppression is a responsibility for us all. We can't lose our thinking capabilities as an alternative forgone for such. Which is what religion proposes.

The offer of Religion as a offer of certainty, as a offer of security, no matter how tempting it is, the offer of impermeable faith that can't give way; is an offer of something not worth having.

And if you think without religion, man has no Morality. I'll suggest you reassess your presupposition.
Isn't this what communism tried to achieve morality without religion it simply painted the ruling class as slave masters using religion to enslave the masses and they were fighting for humanity for freedom


Why shouldn't thieves be killed
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by theoriginalgood: 7:06pm On Jan 12
Well if God was dead, then trust me, existence would be lacking all that is good. Since this is clearly not the case, God is still alive. God is omnipotent; he can do absolutely anything good. He can infuse you with goodness and transform your life to perfection your mind will only fathom then...
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 7:37pm On Jan 12
danvon:
Isn't this what communism tried to achieve morality without religion it simply painted the ruling class as slave masters using religion to enslave the masses and they were fighting for humanity for freedom


Why shouldn't thieves be killed

Communism is clearly more than Marx's view. But to keep the topic simpler I'll stick with Marx's.

talking about Communism, it's majorly about Economics and religion is well about itself.

Materialism as a philosophical approach was what Marx saw as best to achieving a good Communist State as at the time.

A good counter-question, to help you understand what communism and athiesm have, is to also ask (given that Communism is often set against Capitalism), What does Capitalism share with athiesm; it's a question, I suppose should help you see.

At that time organized religion ( which the Church did it for over hundreds of years) was either a political power, or co-opted by another power (monarchs) to help pacify the oppressed lower classes. Marx viewed religion as a natural result of the current way of society and the state and his materialist examination of religion lead him to his conclusion, that with the triumph of communism will religion wither away (along with the state) it is not necessary for the communists to be atheists. Karl Marx, as a man, observed his material environment for his deductions and for someone else, who is likewise observing, trying to study and infer from it, may find themselves on the side on the side with communism, even though he/she is religious. And there would be nothing stopping them from advocating Marxism and Marxist economics - Marxism is not a cult that has strict rules and boundaries.

While it is true that he also said atheism is inseperable from Marxism, the whole deal is behind understanding this complex phrase: Regardless of one's own religion, they must act as if they were atheist; just as they are free from the constraints of their nationality and race as they are Marxists, so shall they be free from the constraints of religion and act not by the guidance of religion but by that of a communist ideology . This means, on the grounds where religion and Marxism contradict each other, reconciliation is impossible: The church bureaucracy needs to be abolished.

To understand communism Perfectly you have to take yourself back to the time Marx was speaking and writing at.
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 7:51pm On Jan 12
FTF2069:


Communism is clearly more than Marx's view. But to keep the topic simpler I'll stick with Marx's.

talking about Communism, it's majorly about Economics and religion is well about itself.

Materialism as a philosophical approach was what Marx saw as best to achieving a good Communist State as at the time.

A good counter-question, to help you understand what communism and athiesm have, is to also ask (given that Communism is often set against Capitalism), What does Capitalism share with athiesm; it's a question, I suppose should help you see.

At that time organized religion ( which the Church did it for over hundreds of years) was either a political power, or co-opted by another power (monarchs) to help pacify the oppressed lower classes. Marx viewed religion as a natural result of the current way of society and the state and his materialist examination of religion lead him to his conclusion, that with the triumph of communism will religion wither away (along with the state) it is not necessary for the communists to be atheists. Karl Marx, as a man, observed his material environment for his deductions and for someone else, who is likewise observing, trying to study and infer from it, may find themselves on the side on the side with communism, even though he/she is religious. And there would be nothing stopping them from advocating Marxism and Marxist economics - Marxism is not a cult that has strict rules and boundaries.

While it is true that he also said atheism is inseperable from Marxism, the whole deal is behind understanding this complex phrase: Regardless of one's own religion, they must act as if they were atheist; just as they are free from the constraints of their nationality and race as they are Marxists, so shall they be free from the constraints of religion and act not by the guidance of religion but by that of a communist ideology . This means, on the grounds where religion and Marxism contradict each other, reconciliation is impossible: The church bureaucracy needs to be abolished.

To understand communism Perfectly you have to take yourself back to the time Marx was speaking and writing at.



There are things that can legitimately be called communism/communist yet are religion based:
There's a concept of "Religious Communism". Sometimes called Communalism, but in many ways in it's goals and points are very communist.

@danvon
I took my time to briefly explain Communism to you and how it relates to Atheism.

What the likes of Stalin and Hitler were about isn't just about Atheism there is something else. Which I consider move to ursurp the Church. Communism is also about that but doesn't justify murdering anyone and neither is it an advocate. Those acts are not right and should be stopped at every chance we get Which I said is a responsibility for all to prevent such.

But religion has we have it over the years has been a movement for these act justifying them with the name of the Lord. Atheists and agnostics do not behave less morally than religious believers, even if their virtuous acts are mediated by different principles. They often have as strong and sound a sense of right and wrong as anyone, including involvement in movements to abolish slavery and contribute to relief efforts associated with human suffering. The converse is also true: religion has led people to commit a long litany of horrendous crimes, from God’s command to Moses to slaughter the Midianites, men, women, boys and non-virginal girls, through the Crusades, the Inquisition, theThirty Years War, innumerable conflicts between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, and terrorists who blow themselves up in the confident belief that they are going straight to paradise, Genital mutilation, Sexism all justifying them with "it's the Lord way".
Re: God Is Dead. God Remains Dead. by FTF2069(m): 7:59pm On Jan 12
theoriginalgood:
Well if God was dead, then trust me, existence would be lacking all that is good. Since this is clearly not the case, God is still alive. God is omnipotent; he can do absolutely anything good. He can infuse you with goodness and transform your life to perfection your mind will only fathom then...

You statement made the Man who said that Religion is the opium of the masses seem like he's more right than he was yesterday.

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