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Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by Damilolagboye(m): 10:00pm On Jan 06, 2019
Its the camshaft gear. Have it changed and thank me later. Not a mechanic though but I have experienced it in a car before...
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by Connoisseur(m): 12:04am On Jan 07, 2019
Rayd502:


Exactly how it behaves,so how is the performance of your car these past years?

No difference
Once the sound goes, nothing else happens
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by jarkbauer: 7:23am On Jan 07, 2019
Damilolagboye:
Its the camshaft gear. Have it changed and thank me later. Not a mechanic though but I have experienced it in a car before...

exactly
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by jarkbauer: 7:25am On Jan 07, 2019
bravolad:


There’s no conflict. You obviously have the wrong manual. Apparently, the oil filler cap on ur engine is been changed.

Even the predecessor engine 2az uses 5w20. So search for 0w20. It’s available

there are 2 oil types you can use for 2ar 0w-20 or 5w-20.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by Rayd502(m): 7:26am On Jan 07, 2019
cardoctor:
@OP. I hope u r not choked up with all these suggestions. Adding mine may become an overload.

Please do,i m learning a lot here...thanks
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by bravolad(m): 8:03am On Jan 07, 2019
jarkbauer:


there are 2 oil types you can use for 2ar 0w-20 or 5w-20.

Read your manual properly. The 5w20 is a temporal oil where 0w20 is unavailable at due OCI but must be replaced with 0w20 at the next OCI.

So, it’s only a temporal measure but again, it’s your car & engine; do unto it what you like.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by jarkbauer: 8:04am On Jan 07, 2019
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by bravolad(m): 8:17am On Jan 07, 2019
jarkbauer:


I think it depends on the car.

We are strictly talking about the 2010-2011 Toyota Camry with the 2.5l 2AR-FE engine.

Or did @OP mention any other car?
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by jarkbauer: 8:21am On Jan 07, 2019
bravolad:


We are strictly talking about the 2010-2011 Toyota Camry with the 2.5l 2AR-FE engine.

Or did @OP mention any other car?

You are right about camry I just checked the owners manual on Toyota website.

Camry 0w-20

but for other cars that use 2AR like Rav4, its 5w-20 or 0w-20
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by Rayd502(m): 9:17am On Jan 07, 2019
bravolad:


Read your manual properly. The 5w20 is a temporal oil where 0w20 is unavailable at due OCI but must be replaced with 0w20 at the next OCI.

So, it’s only a temporal measure but again, it’s your car & engine; do unto it what you like.

You are right,i have rechecked and confirmed 0w20 to be the right oil...Many thanks.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by GreekDon: 10:03am On Jan 07, 2019
@ Gazzuzz

Could this be same problem with 2008-2012 Honda Accord Engines that rattles at cold start? Or is the Honda problem more of factory defect? Please kindly throw more light on this Sir.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by Michael547(m): 11:13am On Jan 07, 2019
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Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by Rayd502(m): 10:38am On Jun 09, 2019
Hello folks...

Following my concern about the about the observation of a brief rattle sound on cold start.I am happy to give a feedback on the issue.

While thanking everyone for their insightful contribution,which I followed through accordingly.I employed the use of the recommended oil for the engine and I was amazed when it started without the rattle sound.Engine currently sounds like new.I noticed from some pm's I got some people do have this same issue.

Like Gazzuzz advised,the vvti engine is very sensitive and doesn't tolerate abuse of recommended oil.Ensure you use the appropriate oil to prolong the life of ur engine and also improve performance.

Thanks everyone for ur contributions.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by VolvoS60(m): 7:39pm On Jun 09, 2019
OP,

Interesting outcome. Good to hear it worked out for you.

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Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by GreekDon: 8:40am On Jun 10, 2019
Rayd502:
Hello folks...

Following my concern about the about the observation of a brief rattle sound on cold start.I am happy to give a feedback on the issue.

While thanking everyone for their insightful contribution,which I followed through accordingly.I employed the use of the recommended oil for the engine and I was amazed when it started without the rattle sound.Engine currently sounds like new.I noticed from some pm's I got some people do have this same issue.

Like Gazzuzz advised,the vvti engine is very sensitive and doesn't tolerate abuse of recommended oil.Ensure you use the appropriate oil to prolong the life of ur engine and also improve performance.

Thanks everyone for ur contributions.

Good to know change of oil worked for you. I'm just curious why rattle noise on 2008 Honda Accord engines comes up even when the right oil spec is used.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by GAZZUZZ(m): 8:50am On Jun 10, 2019
GreekDon:


Good to know change of oil worked for you. I'm just curious why rattle noise on 2008 Honda Accord engines comes up even when the right oil spec is used.

failing VTC actuator it's a re-call issue.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by GreekDon: 1:32pm On Jun 10, 2019
GAZZUZZ:


failing VTC actuator it's a re-call issue.

Thanks for the update Gazzuzz.

I had to goggle up the recall and found this:"Honda TSB Number:A09-010.V4
NHTSA Number:10087883TSB
Date:March 17, 2016
Failing Component: Engine (Pws)
Summary: Service bulletin - replace the vtc actuator if the engine rattles loudly for 2 seconds during cold start-up.''


So I guess the failing part has to be replaced with brand new parts right? Any idea on cost?

Cc: radautoworks.
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by radautoworks: 3:12pm On Jun 10, 2019
GreekDon:


Thanks for the update Gazzuzz.

I had to goggle up the recall and found this:"Honda TSB Number:A09-010.V4
NHTSA Number:10087883TSB
Date:March 17, 2016
Failing Component: Engine (Pws)
Summary: Service bulletin - replace the vtc actuator if the engine rattles loudly for 2 seconds during cold start-up.''


So I guess the failing part has to be replaced with brand new parts right? Any idea on cost?

Cc: radautoworks.

N85,845 with a 6 month warranty and takes 2 hours to repair. 10 day delivery http://weblink.carquest.com/acl/?mfgName=DOR&partNumber=917-251
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by radautoworks: 3:36pm On Jun 10, 2019
Rayd502:
Hello folks...

Following my concern about the about the observation of a brief rattle sound on cold start.I am happy to give a feedback on the issue.

While thanking everyone for their insightful contribution,which I followed through accordingly.I employed the use of the recommended oil for the engine and I was amazed when it started without the rattle sound.Engine currently sounds like new.I noticed from some pm's I got some people do have this same issue.

Like Gazzuzz advised,the vvti engine is very sensitive and doesn't tolerate abuse of recommended oil.Ensure you use the appropriate oil to prolong the life of ur engine and also improve performance.

Thanks everyone for ur contributions.

Glad it worked out because as you saw it's not cheap.

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Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by GreekDon: 4:39pm On Jun 10, 2019
radautoworks:


N85,845 with a 6 month warranty and takes 2 hours to repair. 10 day delivery http://weblink.carquest.com/acl/?mfgName=DOR&partNumber=917-251

Aunty Radu,

Is this the updated part from Honda? Hope it wont fail again after say 2 years. Read reviews were users complained that part still failed after some time.


To be specific, Honda bulletin highlighted the part number 14310-R44-A01 (that failed) should be replced with part number 14310-R5A-305. My question is if the replcement part you posted is the updated part Honda recommends?
Re: Two Seconds Rattling Sound Coming From Engine On Cold Start .... by radautoworks: 2:18am On Jun 11, 2019
GreekDon:


Aunty Radu,

Is this the updated part from Honda? Hope it wont fail again after say 2 years. Read reviews were users complained that part still failed after some time.


To be specific, Honda bulletin highlighted the part number 14310-R44-A01 (that failed) should be replced with part number 14310-R5A-305. My question is if the replcement part you posted is the updated part Honda recommends?

It's the replacement. Read the description in the link.

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