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Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by umbo: 9:48am On Jan 13, 2019 |
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Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by alBHAGDADI: 9:49am On Jan 13, 2019 |
MyVILLAGEpeople: Those additions of apocryphal books which have been seen to be lies. All those nonsense gospel of Barnabas, gospel of Mary etc. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Olabenjamen22(m): 9:50am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Avizizo:Lol. next time you want to show your foolishness online, make sure you did that in your cult page and.not in a Christian page OK? well let me educate your illiteracy, 1. Muhammad Asad version 2.M. M. Pickthall version 3. Yusuf Ali (Saudi Rev. 1985) version 4. Yusuf Ali (Orig. 1938) version 5.Shakir version 6. Wahiduddin Khan version 7.Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar version 8.T.B.Irving version 9.The Clear Quran, Dr. Mustafa Khattab version 10. Safi Kaskas version Let me stop at number 10, lol Google is your friend sha. so can you help yourself by vacating the page for a sane people? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by rafael122(m): 9:50am On Jan 13, 2019 |
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Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by mabea: 9:50am On Jan 13, 2019 |
VictorRomanov:Now the word of God has nothing to do with the understanding of english language it is the spirit who grants us the revelation of the word . So with the little knowledge i have about God i believe the op. 4 Likes |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 9:55am On Jan 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: This is problem with religion. Anything ur pastors tell u is the truth. mtcheeew |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Nobody: 9:56am On Jan 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Lol. see ignorance. do yourself a quick favor. check out your local library or local bookshop for history books and search for the list of Popes and check out the dates. Mass means Catholic form of worship when it is used in religious circles. Christmas is a religious celebration. The Catholic church celebrates Christmas (Christ-Mass). what most Pentecostals don't realize is that in the Catholic church, everyday is a feast day of some sort. Its either they are celebrating a saint's feast day or they are celebrating a church history in antiquity. I'm sure you've never heard of Michaelmass before. If you celebrate Christmas and then call the Catholic Church the "mother of harlots" then you are a hypocrite. as for the bible not being compiled by the Catholic church, I won't even indulge you. if you are too lazy to Google it then please keep believing the fact that the Bible jumped down from heaven and landed in the hands of Martin Luther and King Henry VIII, both founders of protestantism. During the times of the early Christians, gathering to break bread was done in private homes and underground caves because they were being persecuted by ancient Rome. they met whenever and where ever they could. I know you aren't aware of this because your own church's history probably dates back to only the 90s. Heck, I am even older than your church. Your allegiance is to Jesus indeed but you have no problem calling the Bride of Christ the "Mother of harlots". What an allegiance! |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by VictorRomanov: 9:57am On Jan 13, 2019 |
mabea: Well we can believe what we like. But God gave us a brain for a reason. And from what I know about God and his word, I know the Op is totally wrong. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by alBHAGDADI: 9:57am On Jan 13, 2019 |
MyVILLAGEpeople: Those books deny Jesus, that's why we reject them. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Olabenjamen22(m): 9:58am On Jan 13, 2019 |
ukaface: Because the prophecy have to be fulfill. and mind you, it not your doctrine that will make you enter heaven but your own personal relationship with God Almighty. in which the Bible have explained for us. peace |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 10:01am On Jan 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Not all. Even Solomon seal that is an occult book talked about Jesus. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Olabenjamen22(m): 10:02am On Jan 13, 2019 |
adams123: And you have problem with those thing? Gosh as a Muslim I don't expect you to have problem with what that pastor told you because last I check, Your Quran was written years after the death of your late Muhammad. And to be surprising those that write your Quran have never heard or see your Allah before. so I don't know what you are trying to instigate. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by mabea: 10:04am On Jan 13, 2019 |
VictorRomanov:With the examples he gave he cant be wrong because those are key and vital truth about the christian faith. Again you cant understand God's word with the brain. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Olabenjamen22(m): 10:06am On Jan 13, 2019 |
ollah2:You mean in a Christian related topic? why can't you people just cage yourself inside your cult page instead of talking rubbish here. and mind you know one ask to know about He's passion for his so called Quran. so bluff off. 1 Like |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by sooperrescue(m): 10:15am On Jan 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: The only thing you got wrong was in justifying your trinity concept. Every other points are valid. You need to do more to understand the word of God. Jesus told us that he came down from heaven. Truth or false.? The Bible recorded that John the baptist claimed that he did not know that Jesus was the messiah. Was he saying the truth or not because for him to say that means the baby that was born by Mary was the body that was prepared for the spirit to descend upon. Even Satan asked the same question, if you are the son of God twice to the messiah immediately he landed from heaven. Heb 10; 4, when he came down to earth, he said, sacrifice and offering, thou wouldest not but a body has thou prepared for me. Make I go church. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by VictorRomanov: 10:17am On Jan 13, 2019 |
mabea: How come you understood what he said, since you can't understand God's word with your brain? Did you use your kidney to understand him. One of the claims he made is that the KJV never called Jesus Joseph's son. Take this: King James Version Luke 3:23 23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli 1 Like |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by ollah2: 10:29am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Olabenjamen22: Like I told the other guy, you guys are worst and you don't look in the mirror. You want people to accept your jargons but can't tolerate others. Don't you write usual nonsense on Muslim threads? 1 Share
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Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Olabenjamen22(m): 10:34am On Jan 13, 2019 |
ollah2: well, I will be waiting for you to show me where I poke my nose into Islamic topic unless they look for trouble first. and wait, what is wrong with this braindead, I don't see where anyone is forcing Muslim or atheist to accept Christian believe before. and if you mean that me trying to teach my believe equate to forcing my believe in you. then you are free to commit suicide because I will never stop preaching my believe because of some troll like you.. so you can as well Bleep off. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by ollah2: 10:43am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Olabenjamen22: I will be waiting for where I mentioned you FIRST. Nobody asked you to stop preaching, but you can attack me because of what I said as regards the other guy. You can't accept what you give others. It's the same reason why a Muslim can easily attend church services but hell would let lose if a christian is invited to the mosque. Heaven is meant for you guys alone since God is a Christian |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by alBHAGDADI: 10:47am On Jan 13, 2019 |
VictorRomanov: The passage was talking about his human genealogy. Even the king James put in parenthesis (as was supposed). Luke 3:23-38 King James Version (KJV) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph, Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge, Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda, Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri, Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er, Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim, Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David, Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson, Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda, Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor, Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala, Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech, Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan, Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. 1 Like |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Mikora: 10:51am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Wrong theory |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by alBHAGDADI: 10:54am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Mikora:Where is the right one ? |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by dederocs(m): 11:03am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Welcome to the great point of disillusionment...King James version was doctored, written under the supervision of the great United Kingdom's ruler, colonizer and tyrannical king Remember the house of England and the house of Scotland divided, just after the death of King James mother, thereby the Catholic movement was formed, out of the Anglican, hence they had to edit, and doctor their own book, to suit the whims and caprices of King James, of course to differentiate them, and a decree was issued that only the king James Version be used during sermons... Its more about power struggle and politics... These words we read today, said to be narratives of Mark, Paul etc, have been altered a great deal. I can't completely trust a book handed to me by my colonizer |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Chukazu: 11:08am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Petersamuel8: Who told you ? |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by VictorRomanov: 11:08am On Jan 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: So that means many people who knew Jesus supposed that his father was Joseph. So it is not out of place to say Jesus was Joseph's son. King James Version Luke 4:22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph’s son? Saying Jesus is Joseph's son does not mean that Joseph was his biological father. People refer to foster fathers and the fathers of the children they foster. Joseph was such. Secondly. Which translation would you rather have? A translation where the translators stay faithful to the original text or where they infuse their own understanding. Here a word for word translation of the Greek text from which Luke 2:33 was translated καὶ (And) ἦν (was) ὁ (the) πατὴρ (father) αὐτοῦ (of it) καὶ (and) ἡ (the) μήτηρ (mother) θαυμάζοντες (wondering) ἐπὶ (upon) τοῖς (the [things]) λαλουμένοις (being spoken) περὶ (about) αὐτοῦ. Notice that the Greek word πατὴρ here translated father is different from the word Ἰωσήφ, Joseph at Luke 3:22 below Καὶ (And) αὐτὸς (he) ἦν (was) Ἰησοῦς (Jesus) ἀρχόμενος (commencing) ὡσεὶ (as if) ἐτῶν (of years) τριάκοντα, (thirty), ὢν (being) υἱός, (son,) ὡς (as) ἐνομίζετο, (it was being opined), Ἰωσήφ (of Joseph) τοῦ (of the) Ἡλεί (Heli) From the foregoing, it is obvious that the later translators were more faithful with the original texts than the translators of KJV |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Chukazu: 11:12am On Jan 13, 2019 |
What is the meaning of "thou, thee, whenc, harkneth, harketh, sawest, knoweth, thy ? How do you expect a young believer to understand King James version? You know nothing about Bible. If I can't understand every letter of the Word, what is the use? |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Revolva(m): 11:12am On Jan 13, 2019 |
KJV is the beginning of the brainwashing the whitemen used...its not accurate....ok..... |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by adams123: 11:12am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Olabenjamen22: Thank you for this revelation. But all these versions are in English or Arabic? Because from what I know, Quran was revealed in Arabic and I heard the Arabic version is d same all over the world. But different english translators used different words with the same meaning in their translation. But if you have any differences in different translations that disagreed with each other you can prove it here. Thank you my brother for this important revelation. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by Chukazu: 11:14am On Jan 13, 2019 |
VictorRomanov: Oga the Original versions of the Bible is Hebrew and and Greek any other one is translation. If you have read the entire KJV you won't position this ignorance |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by VictorRomanov: 11:23am On Jan 13, 2019 |
Chukazu: The language I quoted, was it Russian? Isn't that Greek? I have the KJV and many other translation and of them all, the KJV drifts more from the original text than most. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by alBHAGDADI: 11:47am On Jan 13, 2019 |
VictorRomanov:You are quoting from one of those corrupt Greek manuscripts. The people of those days who didn't know any better were the one saying Joseph was Jesus father. The Bible was only quiting them, which is different from when the Bible us making a statement. |
Re: Is Your Bible A Sword Or A Butter Knife? Why You Need The King James Version by alBHAGDADI: 11:48am On Jan 13, 2019 |
VictorRomanov:The Greek you quoted is from the corrupt versions which these modern Bible translations were gotten from. |
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