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Only God knows, so pray for yourself

alexistaiwo:
Oversabi pastor, does he know better than Jesus that turned water to wine make boys flex

If the so-called pastor dedicated the guy restaurant, you would be the one to criticize and attack him , I believe doctrine should be follow to the latter

SEONaijaExpert:

And the wine Jesus drank was alcoholic wine?

The Pharisees called him a drunk

Hintona:

The Pharisees called him a drunk

Pls make reference to the Scripture for proper address.

Fuckuignos:
This Igbo pensioner came into the mammoth crowd, despite his condition to show his love and support for PMB . This is what we call True love

And this is another Buhari's DEBATE

Ngige can do all the arangee he wants, buhari will only get 100 votes from SE.

Is winebsqme as alcohol, the pastor is absolutely right I hope the man will carry some sence, alcohol is forbidden in Christianity. The pastor is straight to the point.

Hintona:
Mtchew even Jesus drank wine

Abi Jesus no drink wine

The Pastor stood for what he believed in. Now whether that was right or wrong is another issue. There are many liberal Pastors who would have done what you wanted, and others who would rather die than go against their convictions.
God looks at the heart, not the outward appearance. Why can't you pray and dedicate your massive investment yourself? It might sound strange, but if you're truly born again, you have the same Holy Spirit as the Pastor. God hears and answers everyone of us who pray according to His Word, we do not necessarily have to have an intermediate person speaking for us.

The man is a mumu himself, must pastor dedicate his restaurant before he starts his business? Keep waiting for pastor approver when those peo0le you borrow money from to setup come locking at your door no one will tell you before you open door for the customers who are ready to drink and merry

Narrow is the way to heaven but broad is the one to hell fire.
A lot of things can take one to hell fire unknowingly. That's why a true Christian must can not do most things people do.

GISTBL0GGER:
Nigerian man cries out after his pastor refused to dedicate his restaurant for selling alcohol.

Read post below...

Gist from Gistmore - http://gistmore.com/man-cries-out-after-his-pastor-refused-to-dedicate-his-restaurant-for-selling-alcohol

but you believed your pastor when he was preaching in the church that anybody selling alcohol is committing sin do don't complain just stop selling alcohol nex time you Pentecostals will stop reasoning with your anus

anataala:
Is winebsqme as alcohol, the pastor is absolutely right I hope the man will carry some sence, alcohol is forbidden in Christianity. The pastor is straight to the point.

1. Is wine not alcohol?
2. Where’s its consumption forbidden in the Bible?

In sensitive cases like this, one must be careful in coming into a reasonable conclusion. There are many debates that can be raised from this issue.
As a Christian you must be more than 100 percent sure that whosoever you do or you are doing, you are being led by the Holy Spirit of the living God. If you have full assurance that the business is of God carry go! No wahala!
Let us do some little traces;
1. What if the manager of the alcohol company is a Christian, will it be reasonable enough for him to quit his job?
2. The soft drinks and foods we take are they all produced by Christians? If it is a sin to sell alcohol, I also think it will be a greater sin to eat whatever is produced by unbelievers.
3. How many of the things we used are manufactured by Christians both at home and in the church? If all the instruments in church are not produced by Christians it is an indication of the fact that we have not started giving God real praise and worship. What about our phones?
Alcohol is not a sin! Too much alcohol and becoming drunk is a sin. What enters a man can't defile him but what comes out. However because of different abuses of many things it is advisable to drink your alcohol in your private as a Christian so that a weak believer won't get stumbled in faith when you drink publicly.
If your conscience condemns you then don't sell or drink and if not you can continue with your business because God Almighty is in charge.
However, you must be very sure you are led by the Holy Spirit in whatever you find yourself doing!

Yambee:
This is simple.

Your Pastor is not God,so ignore him.

There is power in our tongues,and you can pray for your own business,yourself and your family without getting these Pastors involved.

The Whites brought us Christianity. But have you seen one opening a business and bring any Pastor to pray for them?facebook?Apple?IBM?Hilton?which one brought a pastor there?

let us stop these religious mental slavery.

Since there is power in our your tongues, you can as well go there and bless the business when ashewos are added for proper rebranding.

I know you think there is a God you can use just like horns of animals ate used at will.

Jehovah God cannot be used!

Probz:


1. Is wine not alcohol?
2. Where’s its consumption forbidden in the Bible?

My friend shut up, all wine are not alcoholic!, am sure you don't want to know where its written in the bible, or better still you want to quote that Jesus turn water to wine. Keep drinking, if you want but stop looking for justification

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT ALCOHOLIC CONSUMPTION?



Rev Fr Justin Chinaka Mbaeri





Many religious people believe that God has forbidden any use of alcoholic beverages — that any use of alcohol is wrong and sinful. They claim that the Bible supports this prohibition, just like you claim too. Wine/alcoholic drinks are frequently mentioned in the Bible. If something sinful or beneficial exists about these beverages, then the Bible will show it. What does the Bible really say about wine and alcohol?



WINE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT



One of the first mentions of wine in Scripture is by Melchizedek, priest of the Most High God at Salem (Jerusalem) during the time of Abram, whose name was later changed to Abraham. Melchizedek “brought forth bread and wine” for Abram and his companions (Genesis 14:18).



Since the scriptures was born out of the Jewish context, it is better we consider the “sitz im leben” (life setting or cultural context) of the words of the scriptures in relation to the Jewish culture in order to aid better understanding. In this vein, language comes into play.



From the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), the Hebrew word for wine in Genesis 14:18 is “yayin”. This word is used over 130 times in the Hebrew Bible to mean “FERMENTED WINE”, not grape juice as you may think. This same beverage (yayin or alcoholic wine), when used excessively, causes drunkenness. Genesis 9:21 says that Noah drank too much yayin and became drunk. Lot also became drunk on this beverage (Genesis 19:30-36), and so did Nabal (1 Samuel 25:36).



Nevertheless, God told his people to enjoy yayin at the yearly festivals (Deuteronomy 14:26). In addition to using wine as a beverage, God also commanded the Levitical priests to include in the sacrifices a portion of wine (yayin) as a drink offering (Exodus 29:40). These scriptural passages make it clear that there can be a right and a wrong use of wine.



Naturally fermented wine is between 10 percent and 14 percent alcohol. Higher alcoholic wines are fortified wines. On special occasions, God even allowed use of what is translated as “strong drink.” This term comes from a different Hebrew word — “shekar” — which is used 22 times in the Old Testament, and refers to alcoholic drinks made from dates and other fruit.



The Bible says that God gave wine to make men glad (Psalm 104:15). Why have some people turned this blessing of God into a curse? The answer is that many people do not follow God’s instructions. A blessing of wine was prophesied as a heritage to the chosen people in Genesis 27:28: “May God give you heaven’s dew and earth’s richness — an abundance of grain and new wine (tirosh).”



The Hebrew word tirosh, meaning “new wine”. People sometimes conclude that this word means grape juice, or fresh-pressed juice of the vine. However, Hosea 4:11 states: “Old wine (yayin) and new wine (tirosh) take away their understanding.” Grape-juice do not possess this effect. Put differently, Tirosh is an intoxicating wine if used in excess.

Having journeyed through the Old Testament, let us take a look at the new Testament.



WINE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT



While the Old Testament was written in Hebrew, the New Testament on the other hand was entirely written in Greek. Hence, we shall focus our mind on the Greek language in which the New testament was written. John the Baptist did not drink wine (oinos in the Greek) or any other form of alcohol because it was prophesied that he wouldn’t (Luke 1:15).



However, Jesus Christ drank oinos (wine) (cf. Matthew 11:19; Luke 7:34). Jesus did not preach against the use of wine; instead he drank like most other Jews of his day. He drank wine in moderation. In ancient times it was normally diluted with water for drinking, and was one of the principal beverages at that time — as it is today.



According to the Greek Bible, Jesus’ first miracle was to change water into wine (oinos) NOT grape juice. Some people who preach total abstinence claim that this miracle was to turn water into grape juice. LOL… This is because, they tend to interpret the Scriptures based on their “myopic understanding”. Can you imagine a Jewish wedding banquet where everyone drank only grape juice?! (which is very difficult to imagine). The ancients did not have refrigeration or any other method of preventing grape juice from fermenting.



On this occasion, Christ turned six jars of 20 or 30 gallons each into wine (oinos). This was no small miracle. This wine was of the finest quality — “You have saved the best wine till now” (John 2:10). At wedding feasts, the hosts normally started with the best wine, and they would bring out lesser-quality wines later.



Jesus gave a parable involving the fermenting process of oinos (alcoholic wine) in Matthew 9:17. At that time, instead of having metal or glass bottles to enclose wine, the skins of animals were used. The fermentation of the wine could burst an old skin, but it would not break a new stretchable skin.



Another proof that oinos is fermented wine is the fact that the apostle Paul said, “Do not get drunk on wine (oinos)” (Ephesians 5:18). Paul did not mean to avoid getting drunk on grape juice! Paul instructed Timothy, “Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine (oinos) because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses” (1 Timothy 5:23). He said to use only a little wine, not a whole lot. The purpose of this wine was Timothy’s frequent stomach ailments; small amounts of wine can help some stomach problems.



Some of the Corinthian Christians were getting drunk at the Lord’s Supper (1 Corinthians 11:21). They were using fermented wine, following the example that Christ had set for them. Paul did not tell them that they were using the wrong kind of wine. He simply told them to eat and drink at home, and to participate in the Lord’s Supper in a respectful way.



In Romans 14:21, Paul says that it is good not to drink wine or eat meat if it offends a weak brother. He is referring to fermented wine; grape juice wouldn’t offend anyone. The implication is that there’s nothing wrong with the wine in itself, except when it is abused. Therefore, Scripture does not necessarily forbid a Christian from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol.



Alcohol, consumed in moderation, is neither harmful nor addictive. In fact, some doctors advocate drinking small amounts of red wine for its health benefits, especially for the heart. Consumption of alcohol in moderation is a matter of CHRISTIAN FREEDOM.



If you’re weak, then do not consider drinking it. Drunkenness and addiction are sinful; and this is exactly what the Bible condemns.

Above all, I am not proposing that alcohol must be consumed by all; if you maintain that intake of alcohol is bad for you, ok! That is simply your opinion; as pointed out, It is a matter of “Christian Freedom”, hence, do not look with disdain on someone who consumes alcohol in moderation or consider him/her a sinner.



Besides, not only excessive intake of alcohol is a sin, the bible also condemns gluttony (such as excessive intake of food etc.) Hence, if you consume an excessive amount of soft drinks or other foods, it is also a sin!



So, my dear friends in Christ, do not be scandalized when a fellow Christian, consumes alcoholic drinks.



Shalom!

Pardon me for my ignorance as I wasn't born or raised in Nigeria (although lived there for year or so). I've come to the conclusion that it seems that the vast majority of Nigerians, which many be no fault their own (but rather the society they have been brought up within) believe that it is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve success in life with out some kind of perceived "extraordinary" power to assist them. Whether this be special prayers by their religious leaders, visiting a Native doctor etc. It seems that the idea of one praying by themselves; one on one is not deemed enough?

Fuckuignos:
This Igbo pensioner came into the mammoth crowd, despite his condition to show his love and support for PMB . This is what we call True love

And this is another Buhari's DEBATE

You might as well join Buhari in his grave when he dies. Cow lover.

SEONaijaExpert:

And the wine Jesus drank was alcoholic wine?

There's nothing like non alcoholic wine. Check the bottles of those things you call nonalcoholic wine and see that it's always described as Grape Juice or Grape Drink. You might also want to consult your dictionary on the meaning of wine

sparko1:


My friend shut up, all wine are not alcoholic!, am sure you don't want to know where its written in the bible, or better still you want to quote that Jesus turn water to wine. Keep drinking, if you want but stop looking for justification

Contrary to what you think, all wine is alcoholic...check a dictionary for the meaning of wine. God doesn't condemn alcohol but excessive alcohol consumption and alcohol addiction

The pastor did the right thing, a true Pastor won't engage in illegality.

If I was your Pastor, I will do the Same.....

Your Pastor is right. You are encouraging sin. Think about it, when your customer drink alcohol and he rape a lady because he's under the influence, are you not guilty? When your customer drink alcohol in your restaurant and he kill his wife, is that good? How about your drunk customer who may have accident while driving and he dies, will God not require his blood from you?

And u are walking yourself up.

The pastor is correct 100%....See lost souls quoting BIBLE upside down

JennyOfOldstones:
There's nothing like non alcoholic wine. Check the bottles of those things you call nonalcoholic wine and see that it's always described as Grape Juice or Grape Drink. You might also want to consult your dictionary on the meaning of wine

What are we saying and what are you typing? Go back and read the posts up there.

Once you drink alcohol, you drive away the spirit because the spirit cannot dwell in unclean places.
If you wish to have the spirit always with you to guide you daily you need to do the right thing.
Listen to your spiritual leader, avoid the alcohol.
What will it profit you if you gain the whole world and lose your soul?
AVOID ALCOHOL, LIVE A CLEAN LIFE

so you won't make money if you don't sell alcoholic drinks

your ideas when it comes to making money are limited