"Ye are gods"
you are whatsoever you claim you are.
I am god.
Maintain your lane and let me focus on mine o ye gods.

All these spiritual leaders that cant make common one naira equal to one dollar

This message is for his members not us

Deicide:
What do you think would happen in the next 1000 years, 100,000 years 1,000,000 years? Do people actually think about this stuff?

most people thought the same thing 1000 years ago, so relax and enjoy your life while it last

newworld31:
Judgement Time -an Everlasting Gospel by God Almighty Olumba Olumba Obu, Wednesday Night Divine Service, February 6th 2019
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Highpoints:
First lesson : 1Timothy 6:1-2
Golden text : Coll 3:22-25
God's open letter to the entire inhabitants of the world.
(Give it the widest publicity /share )
Whatsoever you do this is time for your reward.
This is time of judgement. The time by which God is rewarding everybody according to your works.
This is not time for you to wait to be served rather it's the time to labour for your good reward by doing good.
The time of laziness is over. Time to be served is over.
This is rather time for you to labour for your reward by serving others irrespective of your status in life because this is time for God's judgement.

Initially it use to be you serve me, but now it's time for you to rather render diligent service to others to increase the chance of your rewards of inheritance.
This is a call for faithfulness.

This not time to tell lies or play pranks because anything you do now you stand to receive instant reward.
Currently God is just by your side to reward you accordingly. He's very close to everybody now than before taking stock of your deeds with instant reward
This is time to be so diligent in serving God.
This is not the time to go to bethel to sleep without doing God's work. This is time for you to be up and doing in rendering selfless service to God for your instant reward.
If you have been hiding your talent like that unfaithful servants you will receive your due but negative reward.
This is not time to indulge in fornication.

Wait and see what is going to happen in this world to the sinners.
This is not time to joke and live carefree life. Something spectacular is going to happen in this world that will knock the inhabitants of the world off their feet.

Nowadays whatever you do follow after you immediately.
I really pity the so called members of BCS who still behave anyhow. Imagine when you go to a bethel and eat feast the next thing you pack the plate and spoons to your house. You have incurred judgement to yourself. Wait for your reward.
Wait and see what is going to happen in the world. In the very nearest future.

No evil person will walk the surface of this earth again because God is going to wipe out all evil doers.
Don't beg anybody to quit sin. Let all those who claims to be heady get set. God's judgement and instant wrath is on.
Gone are the days that when you do evil you inherit the reward hereafter. This time around the reward of your inheritance is with immediate effect.

Wherever you are and whatever you are doing currently do it as you are doing onto God.

Do not complain that you don't have money to do God's work. Sweeping the floor or fetching water, washing dishes or clothes is still the wok of God go ahead and do it happily in order to be rewarded by God
.
We are now in a new world where righteousness replaces evil and sin. A new word where we run away from sin and strive to do good things.

Christ has come back to judge and reward everyone.
Go from house to house and tell everyone that this is time of judgement that they should stop fornication, abortion, hate, stealing, telling of lies, killing and anything that is evil because the Supreme judge is on earth on the throne of judgement.

The end of the world has come.

Whatever you are, whether president, governor, prime minister, doctor, engineer, student, business man, pastor, church founder, Muslim, native doctor, scientists, lawyer or whatever surrender yourself completely to Him and do what is right always else you won't escape this judgment.
Drop your pride and ego. Remember, 7 days is for the thief but one day is for God.

This is an open letter to the entire world. Judgment will catch up with you unaware. Nobody will escape.
Use this last opportunity to save yourself.
Stop blaspheming God. Stop saying that we are worshiping human being. God is not a respecter of any body.
God knows how to rescue those who reverence Him and how to preserve the sinners for judgment.
This is an open letter I have written to the entire world. Use this time to save yourself from the impending doom. Something is boiling up to explosion.
Christ is physically on the throne of judgement.
End
Thank You Almighty Father.

Source : https://mobile.facebook.com/BCS-World-Headquarters[/s]

Tell the false prophet to go and rest. We still remember how he was humiliated and and disgraced by the power of the true God in the Days of Archbishop Benson Idahosa.

Heveanly Thunder,on ur track....set....go pls strick olumba olumba obu the stupid and idoitic spiritual head of brotherhood of the cross and star, for calling himself god. i knw my GOD

This idiotic occult movement again? Clowns! The former leader is dead. They continue the scam by appointing a new leader while they secretly bury the former cult leader, but leave their gullible followers with the impression that he is resting/hibernating somewhere. OOO is a foolish cult.

khristology:
The end is near

Nearer than we think

SmartMugu:
If this letter is intended for the entire world, why is it posted on nairaland? Do you expect folks from China, Egypt, UK, Russia, Iraq, Brazil, Isreal, Afghanistan etc to come here to read it?

You hit the nail on the head. They will use telepathy to read.

Iykenuwa:



Tell the false prophet to go and rest. We still remember how he was humiliated and and disgraced by the power of the true God in the Days of Archbishop Benson Idahosa.

Really? Share with me I need to enlighten some of their followers that I have been preaching to to abandon this person who calls himself King of Kings and Lords of Lords.

This is not Olumba Olumba Obu! This is Roland Obu! Where is the real Olumba? Roland and Helen's father?

tragergeorge:
see your name sef ,,cos as dem post am here dem no go fit post am for another platform ,,,,u b real mugu

Dude like seriously? So you're assuming it will get posted on forums of all the nations of th earth abi? Very lame assertion. BTW how many branches them get for the whole of naija not talking of the whole world that they can propergate their 'gospel'?

Dude I know this Brotherhood of the cross and star people very well.

Deicide:
What do you think would happen in the next 1000 years, 100,000 years 1,000,000 years? Do people actually think about this stuff?

funny enough I do.

hisexcellency34:
Olumba Olumba...spiritual leader of Igbo people. Satguru Maharaji of the South East

Bad belle for Igbo go kill you o biki google Olumba read up about him and his Church and Origin plus places they are prevalent in b4 you start calling Igbo and exposing your ignorance

See below

teamwilly:


Dude like seriously? So you're assuming it will get posted on forums of all the nations of th earth abi? Very lame assertion. BTW how many branches them get for the whole of naija not talking of the whole world that they can propergate their 'gospel'?

Dude I know this Brotherhood of the cross and star people very well.

forget about the messenger ,look in the message ,there are some good lessons from the body of the message ,because a pastor cannot preach to the whole world doesn't mean he still not gonna give he's preaching,,, and besides the origin of that write up no b niraland ,na person copy am fro. Somewhere paste here

[quote author=ALCOHOLKILLS post=75498580]i never knew we have O O Obu moderate in this forum till now [/quote
Me too I know the Olumba well
In fact his church is beside my house and the noise they make is terrible

This Olumba is looking so fresh. What about the old Olumba??

tragergeorge:
forget about the messenger ,look in the message ,there are some good lessons from the body of the message ,because a pastor cannot preach to the whole world doesn't mean he still not gonna give he's preaching,,, and besides the origin of that write up no b niraland ,na person copy am fro. Somewhere paste here

Thanks for this sincere contribution. you not far from the kingdom of God. I am the OP I copied it from the official BCS social media account. It was a Gospel He preach from His Divine Throne.
At least it's clear Leader Olumba from this sermon uses the Holy Bible. He preaches righteousness and rebuke sinners.
Don't mind these haters that only want to hear negative news on nairaland about Leader Olumba. If you read my previous post you know better about this Divine Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent Being. Peace

Thank you most gracious Father...May you continue to reign and reign..For now and even forever more Amen.....As for those talking trash about Olumba time will tell

A Long Epistle #Religious
God can do anything, Knows everything, Loves everyone Equally ; Thoughts



I used to wonder why evangelism could appear to "fail" , why could a believer preach yet not convert, I mean, if they are supposed to be guided by God to the particular individual and are supposed to be speaking by the holy ghost (the holy ghost guides/inspires their speech), why would a God inspired speech not convert an unbeliever, and if God knew the speech wouldn't change the unbeliever why waste the believer's time on a fruitless endeavor when there were probably some people out there that could had been "saved" in that time.



I drew some conclusions
- The believer's weren't inspired by God , They simply used their knowledge to try and convince a random unbeliever chosen by intuition, about God. The believer probably had problems with his relationship with God

-I wondered why, if God knew it wouldn't succeed, why let it happen at all? When He knows he would use that against the unbeliever on judgement day

- I got annoyed at those who tried and failed to convert me.. I believed they just weren't the ones to "save" me. I believed someone would, and Goo
d would tell that person when and how. I also believed all the "failures" had issues with their faith. They probably didn't hear God. They just chose me at random and believed they were led to choose me. Which made me wonder if people "faithful" enough to evangelize had problems, is there anyone who doesn't?? (Which was the main question that made me faithless which I am. Is there anyone who is actually "Christlike"



Some thinking has negated those questions , but however has generated a more important question


To illustrate
Assuming some of us wanted to ask our dad for #10,000 , the way we will go about it will be different.



A will ask er mum to try and convince her dad for her. Knowing her dad won't refuse his wife.

B will make a dish of friend plantain and kpomo for her dad, then ask him for it.
Knowing her dad's love for food.

C will praise her dad all day , then ask him for the money.
Knowing appreciation is her dad's weakness.

D will lie she needs money for something in school.
Knowing her dad's value for her education.

E wouldn't bother, because she knows her dad's salary is too thin to afford giving her that much.

And F will pester his dad (ask repetitively him until he agrees and gives him the money).




Now, why did they all ask in different ways?
Because they had different dad's. They know their dads , and they know which way will (most likely) work on them.


Now ,when I thought of F (The son who pestered), I realised that probably the otherwise "failed" evangelisms where true after all and where holy ghost inspired, but they needed more messages to preach before they could convert the person.
So all the apparently "failed evangelisms" where actually important efforts made to achieve success.


.. but now the problem this brought up..


A - F above, tried different methods to ask their dads because they knew their dads

Likewise, since God is all knowing.I want to believe God knows exactly what will save each and every one of us.
(That is, assuming everyone can be saved, which must be true, God wouldn't create a soul That's doomed to hell.)


So now the question, based on the fact that Good knows what can save every one, why does anyone still go to hell??


The thing is that , if they got to hell , that simply means that whichever thing/person/way that would had saved them didn't happen to them on Earth.



Yes, Brother L may have been preached to Mr X ,about God's Merciful nature, but God knew only if Brother M came to preach to Him, about God's loving nature,would he had been saved.


Yes Brother M preached to Miss Y ,but God knew, only if a sister came too preach to her , telling the story of Mary, would Miss Y had been saved.

Yes , four people might had preached to Z , but God knew 11 people had to preach to him before he would be saved


God knew from the start that brother M's preaching would have had no effect on Miss Y.
He knew Mr X wouldn't had been converted by Brother L's message.
He knew not enough believer's had preached to Mr Z yet, for him to be saved.


So why would God use these encounters against the unbelievers on judgement day. As they now know about Christ but still aren't saved.


Just like above ,

You think B would had made Garri and groundnut instead for her dad , and EXPECTED him to Give hey the money? Of course not!!

(For those thinking the dad might still give B the money , yes he might, but B didn't know that, and
That argument doesn't apply to God. By Definition , he knows everything , he knew us before we where even born, he knows what decisions we will make now and in the nearest future, so he knows exactly what will change us, and what wouldn't.)



To make it a bit clearer ,
Imagine we are all as robots with blood in us.

God made us all perfectly
But his enemy came to tell us that if we cut ourselves we will be upgraded.

We "chose" to cut ourselves. Some cut rectangles, some squares, others circles,some cut more than one hole,
So now we're all bleeding and are doomed to die eventually.


Now , God in his love and mercy sent Jesus with these cut parts (disks). squares , circles , rectangles, etc. To save us.

He filled (Saved) some people personally, and gave them discs for go fill (Save) others, he gave A circles , B squares , and C rectangles


Now, my opinion of "failed" evangelisms, was when A with circles goes to preach to J with square Cuts.

God couldn't had sent A there, Knowing it would be fruitless, meaning A is probably disconnected from God, has problems with his faith. It's not J's fault he doesn't believe ,God knows brother A isn't the right person to convince him.


But now I'm guessing it's more like A did his part in J , by preaching and filling the circular holes in J ,
But B also has to fill the square holes in J for him to be saved ( that's my idea of multiple preaching required to save one.)


Given that it is God, who directs the believer's going to preach to who they should preach to, and guides them what they should say,

My question is why can any one end up unsaved

If J above wasn't saved, its because the right person/place/thing didn't make him be saved.

So why exactly would God blame J for not being saved? J heard the word from M, Yes, So now he is accountable to God because he can't claim to not heard about Jesus, But A wasn't the one/ the only one who needed to save him.


In other words, why does anyone go to hell when God should know it's not their fault. The perfect/right preaching wasn't delivered to them.



You see I believe , it is actually God who makes that choice of who gets to be saved.


We don't control life, We don't determine who we bump into on the road, if we get in an accident, who become our classmates , who are family will be.


But God does, he planned all their paths to cross ours.


I Believe, That God planned, that, for those to be saved, the path that will save them will cross them, and for those that wouldn't be, that path wouldn't cross them.



Now, why would God Choose for anyone to not be saved? Given that negates the fact God loves Everyone?.

The only explanation is that all can not be saved
Why is that? only two possible reasons;

There is no way for them to be saved.(e.g they have star holes) which would mean they've been doomed to hell from the start, which is not correct, as if God loves everyone, there should be the opportunity for all to be saved.


The other reason is that there were ways.But those ways didn't get to them..And God knows it.So why exactly would he blame them for these ways not happening to them?.




Now the only reason I can think of is the greater good. Some people have to go to hell, not to any fault of their own, but just because their going to hell , means more will get to go to heaven.

I.e Maybe if one goes to hell, it ensures two go to heaven.
(Like , let's say if God knew O's future is to be a IndecentStar, her dieing now (before becoming one) means less boys will get addicted to porn , and have a higher chance of making heaven , you get?)



Now ,this can only mean one thing ,Everyone can't be saved. Every one can be saved, but all can not be saved , some "savable ones" have to be left behind.


So , Now.. if God loves each and everyone Equally, how can Such a God Choose who Gets left behind?.


No mother , will make a choice, if she is asked to save one, out of two of her children's life, no mother,That is if she loves them all equally.




No mother will say, okay, Let A die if it means B,C,D and
E will live.


No mother , will make the choice, to doom to certain death,her child that she loves.


So how can an All loving , all Knowing , and all powerful God make that Choice.


Unless in some way, he is not all powerful, and cannot do Everything ( He Cannot Save Eveyone)

Or , he is not all Knowing , and does not know everything (He Does Not Know People Well Enough To Know What Will Convert Them)


Or he is not all loving , and does not love each and every of his creation equally.(That He Can Choose To Let Some Die For Others)






Confused #Personal

I wrote a religiously questioning article before,
then I deleted it days later. Because I didn't want to Rob people of the peace they have in the belief that some Good that loves them, and can protect them from any danger he knows they are set to encounter.




Can you imagine someone wondering if he is the Antichrist?
And they'll knock with on the door, with their Bible in their hand, Brother can I talk to you, do you have a few minutes etc.
I gave them audience , listened along, tried to see if i could try to believe all what they were saying.
I laughed you know, there was this one guy that I watched him sign in frustration/confusion. Was I that gone. Am I that terrible that I can't be convinced of this fantasy.

And this all happened because I actually wanted to get more serious with my life by being more serious with my "God". Now I have landed. Knowing fully well I will never believe in the mirage that seems to be reflecting in the eyes of majority in our country.

Let me put it like this. We are in a room filled with lions ( the world which is a bad place) , We all have blindfolds on (Belief that a God is protecting is and on our side) , I take my blindfolds off and see the Lions ( I realise , God doesn't exist, and there is no Divine/special bodyguard service for me) , no matter how tightly I put back the blindfolds , I would not be peaceful as I was before.


Just less than a year ago I was peacefully unserious. If Good existed or not was not my concern for then. Church was just a place to go on Sunday, a place you dress to, and see others in beautiful attire.I checked out babes if I saw one. What was my business, I didn't ask them to dress so attractively. Like I mentioned earlier , I wonder if there is anyone actually Christlike. The minutely negligible few I might consider are people I don't know at all. People I meet in church who know Bible verses, speak in tongues, e.t.c. But I am almost certain they hold some sinful attitude in their closet.

I only hoped I would probably die from sickness , so I'll have time to beg for forgiveness from God so I'll make heaven. an online account is wrong, then you are not a believer.
( "Sin is sin, there is no thing as small or big sin"
That was another issue, to think I might find myself in the same hell as Hitler , if all I did was steal a chewing gum.



I miss where I was, peacefully unconcerned / indifferent.


My intent with this post is to try and either convince others , or to get convinced , that somehow there is a God (commenting insults, or Jesus is coming soon, hell is real, repent for the kingdom of God is at hand , etc is of no effect, I've heard them a million times please type something useful, or pray for what to type).

Now, is that selfish, me attempting to Rob others of their peace because I've lost mine, I guess so.


The future I always saw was me being rich ( from some profession God was supposed to show me) , being a philanthropist , having a wife and kids I could provide for.
I imagined me as a parent. I believe it's better to teach a child than to train (Cain) one, I've always believed teaching was the better way. Never imagining flogging my children.. Raising them with good and proper values.
But how can I do that when I don't know what those are.

As of now, I wonder, Will have kids. Providing physically for them is easy beans , but do I think I can raise them morally sound. So I even know what that is. Do I raise them to be blindly among the religious crowd, or raise them believing what I believe to be true, but expose them to taunting and discrimination from their mates.


So I am releasing this. Yes hopefully to demolish our faith grounded morals for proper ethical way of life. A future for Nigeria where atheism is a free believe, not to be discriminated against be fellow Nigerians.



Thank God for assu strike, I'm not editing that out. God has been so infused into me I still say bless you, thank God , or bless this food in our Lord's name.. they are meaningless statements to me.. always have been, but they are now a habit to me. Can't just be dismissed.


Back to ASUU strike
I'm supposed to become a Godly world renowned engineer ( my mom's belief), hell , I don't even know why I picked my fucking course, well , I am good at math, but what is one to expect from constant practice.

I was supposed to be guided to God to know his plan & purpose for my life. Hence why I decided to get serious religiously , hence why my life is a fucking mess right now, hence why am glad for assu strike. Hopefully I can develop some interests before they call if off.


I don't know how anyone believes in stories like Noah ark. Anyone who can try to convince me , please check this out and have your arguments against each of their points
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark

Anyone who can try to convince me that God loves everyone , please read Drunk with blood by Steve Wells and explain the love behind the documents 2._ million killings God ordered , executed , or approved of I can't see how I'm supposed to believe all these lies.

And someone keeps telling me just believe , just believe , like it's some kind of choice I can just choose to make our not make. I actually needed to make the decision but I Couldn't.

You would assume believing in no God has helped me solve any problems. It hasn't. Hell, it only created deeper problems for me, having no goals, no motivation, no purpose, no moral standard for anything.
Hell, if I knew more about him I could actually defend Hitler .


Tried to get help. Met a psychologist. Going to one isn't how Lucifer (the series) makes is seem. You're actually admitting defeat , knowing your life ( home , family, possessions) is some people's dreams out there, yet here you are, having it all, yet you're the one claiming you need help.

Didn't work though. Got a Christian psychologist, referred me to her church right away.


Well , I don't know, am glad I got this out



https://www.nairaland.com/5007574/argument-god-does-not-exist

Thank You Good Father for just as you warn the people of Noah You have sent out Your warning for this generation of that iniquity has risen to the highest.

newworld31:

Thanks for this sincere contribution. you not far from the kingdom of God. I am the OP I copied it from the official BCS social media account. It was a Gospel He preach from His Divine Throne.
At least it's clear Leader Olumba from this sermon uses the Holy Bible. He preaches righteousness and rebuke sinners.
Don't mind these haters that only want to hear negative news on nairaland about Leader Olumba. If you read my previous post you know better about this Divine Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent Being. Peace

nonsense