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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by somehow: 9:10am On Mar 04, 2019
Gandollar:
Which appointments did he frustrate and how? Now don't tell me magu.

Court cases? How? Wasn't it the FG that took him to court?

Delay in passing the budget

Not allowing some bills to pass the house reading

Refusing to approve some appointees

Always at loggerhead with the executive.

Don't ask questions that you can google!

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by respect80(m): 9:12am On Mar 04, 2019
I wonder if some of these men are actually sitting on their brain, or perhaps, they talk before they think. So, rather than the APC NA members to agree within themselves to choose a capable leader who can oversee the NA affairs, this old fo** is advising Buhari to handpick whoever he likes to be their head. Common sense didn't dictate to him that it would be a problem if Buhari picks someone whom the majority of the NA members don't like.

no wonder corruption is CORRUPTION only when it doesn't favour your interest

And a prof. at that?
SMH

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by asobo: 9:13am On Mar 04, 2019
Shame on this administration. The same people who rubbished OBJ are now referencing him. In this months of March your enemies will have no option but to celebrate you
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by hush15: 9:15am On Mar 04, 2019
nairavsdollars:



https://www.independent.ng/buhari-should-deal-with-incoming-national-assembly-like-obasanjo-did-sagay/

but that's will be fools doing
It is not that APC can pick such position unilaterally. Afterall, law requires 2/3 of the senate to pass any bill. So if APC decides to force theirselves down the throat of others as usual, don't you think we will spend the next 4 years not passing anything?

Afterall, pdp don't mind maintaining statusquo. It's not you feel like they relevant
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Dannyset(m): 9:18am On Mar 04, 2019
Gandollar:
Buhari ceases to be my president after may 29th. Besides, he buhari wailed even on camera for 12 years before the candy was gifted him, did he die? Ooops..he nearly shaa grin

Great! That means you're going to live the next 4 Years with a burdened heart. grin

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Blazebond(m): 9:18am On Mar 04, 2019
This sagay keeps sounding stupid day by day,infact he has turned into a fool,with people like this as senior learned citizen's Nigeria is doomed,it is people like sagay that encourages military coup,stupid old man.

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by hush15: 9:19am On Mar 04, 2019
Dannyset:
If Buhari does his I don't care attitude this time around and allows people with vested interest to disrupt his second term just like Saraki did, he will only have himself to blame.

We want a government without enemies within itself.

With APC, it's inevitable. They are their own enemies
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Gandollar(f): 9:19am On Mar 04, 2019
somehow:


Delay in passing the budget

Not allowing some bills to pass the house reading

Refusing to approve some appointees

Always at loggerhead with the executive.

Don't ask questions that you can google!





I should be the one telling you to Google facts before reacting here. The delay in budget passing was because the parastatals refused to send in their budgets as and when due while some refused to come forward to defend their budgets. These hampard the work at the committee levels and delayed the process.

Refusing appointees on what grounds? Which particular appointees are those you talk about?

Always at loggerheads with the executive because for once in history, the assembly became truly independent. Is it because they didn't allow the paddings to continue or is it because where they spot paddings from the executive, they too will insist on their own paddings? You want to chop but you don't want others to chop? Is that it?

Buhari said he came to fight corruption and the Nass helped him expose some corruption cases he could have missed and Nigerians were happy. But you seem to suggest that they should have covered these frauds up kwoo?

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Gandollar(f): 9:21am On Mar 04, 2019
Blazebond:
This sagay keeps sounding stupid day by day,infact he has turned into a fool,with people like this as senior learned citizen's Nigeria is doomed,it is people like sagay that encourages military coup,stupid old man.
Nobody could have said it better. Tenkio jawee!

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by hush15: 9:24am On Mar 04, 2019
hisexcellency34:
But in reality, Saraki did a lot of damage to this government


That's not true. APC is their own bane. Pride and Greed destroyed APC at the NA and not Saraki.

Rather, I can just imagine the kind of monies that would have been stolen with such a rubber stamp NASS. We won't know they still pay subsidies without due process...

This government will always be a fraud but am waiting for the time to say I told you so
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Ahmeduana(m): 9:25am On Mar 04, 2019
And You Idiots Said Obasanjo destroyed democracy!
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by obailala(m): 9:27am On Mar 04, 2019
Gandollar:
So we should continue in that ignominy? Is that the change APC talked about or is that the next level?

All of a sudden, OBJ has now become a role model for buhari to emulate bah?
The NASS may be a separate independent arm of government, but it is always in the best interest of the executive to ensure (via lobbying etc) that the elected heads of the legislators are in sync with the ideals of the president if the president must have a good ride. This is the standard case all over the world, including the best democracies. There is nothing wrong/ illegal/ undemocratic about the executive being concerned and being involved in the selection process of the heads of the NASS.

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by 9jaRealist: 9:31am On Mar 04, 2019
Is this the onset of senility or what? shocked

I cannot believe that I use to have respect for this character who cannot appreciate the basic concept of CHECKS AND BALANCES! SMH
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Gandollar(f): 9:35am On Mar 04, 2019
obailala:
The NASS may be a separate independent arm of government, but it is always in the best interest of the executive to ensure (via lobbying etc) that the elected heads of the legislators are in sync with the ideals of the president if the president must have a good ride. This is the standard case all over the world, including the best democracies. There is nothing wrong/ illegal/ undemocratic about the executive being concerned and being involved in the selection process of the heads of the NASS.
Is what you just propounded OBJs methods as we know it?
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by 9jaRealist: 9:38am On Mar 04, 2019
hisexcellency34:
But in reality, Saraki did a lot of damage to this government

How many bills did the National Assembly pass that Buhari declined to accent to? And not just the Electoral Act, but tons... angry

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by 9jaRealist: 9:40am On Mar 04, 2019
obailala:
The NASS may be a separate independent arm of government, but it is always in the best interest of the executive to ensure (via lobbying etc) that the elected heads of the legislators are in sync with the ideals of the president if the president must have a good ride. This is the standard case all over the world, including the best democracies. There is nothing wrong/ illegal/ undemocratic about the executive being concerned and being involved in the selection process of the heads of the NASS.

Not just “separate” but CO-EQUAL...

Meanwhile, any process or entity that suffers executive interference is by definition no longer “independent”!
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by obailala(m): 9:43am On Mar 04, 2019
Gandollar:
Is what you just propounded OBJs methods as we know it?
There's nothing undemocratic or illegal about a president scheming or lobbying to get favourable heads of the legislative arm elected or even removed; that's just what politics is all about. As long as the process doesn't involve illegality (e.g. bribery, threats of assassination etc).
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by 9jaRealist: 9:45am On Mar 04, 2019
obailala:

There's nothing undemocratic or illegal about a president scheming or lobbying and removing heads of the legislative arm. As long as the process doesn't involve illegality (e.g. bribery, threats of assassination etc).

Without all due respect, that’s just shockingly *******! shocked

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Cloud007: 9:48am On Mar 04, 2019
This man is part of Nigeria problem. Imagine another independent arm of government ohhh. Wetin concern me sef. Am open to any news from APC
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by obailala(m): 9:52am On Mar 04, 2019
9jaRealist:


Not just “separate” but CO-EQUAL...

Meanwhile, any process or entity that suffers executive interference is by definition no longer “independent”!
What you describe above is idealism; in reality, there will always be some form of executive interference in other arms of govt. Just the same way the legislators influence who the president appoints into his cabinet, it's also in the the best interest of the president to influence wherever he can, who gets to the leadership of parliament.

Only a sleeping or lifeless president will sit back and watch those opposed to his agenda get elevated to head the NASS. That would just be a pure exqmple of mental laziness, not democracy.

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by hisexcellency34: 9:56am On Mar 04, 2019
I agree with you..the Executive arm will always have the upper hand

obailala:

What you describe above is idealism; in reality, there will always be some form of executive interference in other arms of govt. Just the same way the legislators influence who the president appoints into his cabinet, it's also in the the best interest of the president to influence wherever he can, who gets to the leadership of parliament.

Only a sleeping or lifeless president will sit back and watch those opposed to his agenda get elevated to head the NASS. That would just be a pure exqmple of mental laziness, not democracy.
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by Gandollar(f): 10:02am On Mar 04, 2019
obailala:

There's nothing undemocratic or illegal about a president scheming or lobbying to get favourable heads of the legislative arm elected or even removed; that's just what politics is all about. As long as the process doesn't involve illegality (e.g. bribery, threats of assassination etc).
But your last sentence is what characterized OBJs relationship with Nass then.
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by RayIdss: 10:06am On Mar 04, 2019
He needs to be proactive this time around rather than the reactionary policies of the last four years. Here's a proactive approach to electioneering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xNYtw5KDU

Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by 9jaRealist: 10:07am On Mar 04, 2019
obailala:

What you describe above is idealism; in reality, there will always be some form of executive interference in other arms of govt. Just the same way the legislators influence who the president appoints into his cabinet, it's also in the the best interest of the president to influence wherever he can, who gets to the leadership of parliament.

Only a sleeping or lifeless president will sit back and watch those opposed to his agenda get elevated to head the NASS. That would just be a pure exqmple of mental laziness, not democracy.

The ideal should ALWAYS be our goal.

And just btw, the members of the NASS are there to represent US - their constituents - and not the president (or even the party). Accordingly, assuming that the president’s agenda is in the NATIONAL interest (and not merely to serve parochial, partisan, pecuniary, primordial or such other petty/narrow interests), then it should not be a problem ‘selling’ same to the NASS and the wider Nigerian constituency, rather than installing a “sleeping or lifeless” NASS leadership that would simply rubber stamp anything from Aso Rock.

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by somehow: 10:13am On Mar 04, 2019
Gandollar:
I should be the one telling you to Google facts before reacting here. The delay in budget passing was because the parastatals refused to send in their budgets as and when due while some refused to come forward to defend their budgets. These hampard the work at the committee levels and delayed the process.

Refusing appointees on what grounds? Which particular appointees are those you talk about?

Always at loggerheads with the executive because for once in history, the assembly became truly independent. Is it because they didn't allow the paddings to continue or is it because where they spot paddings from the executive, they too will insist on their own paddings? You want to chop but you don't want others to chop? Is that it?

Buhari said he came to fight corruption and the Nass helped him expose some corruption cases he could have missed and Nigerians were happy. But you seem to suggest that they should have covered these frauds up kwoo?


Keep lyulying to yourself
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by JustMercy: 10:22am On Mar 04, 2019
Dannyset:


Wetin concern you, is it your party?

Don't forget, Nigeria is his country.
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by maisauki: 10:24am On Mar 04, 2019
hisexcellency34:
How many Senate Presidents did Obasanjo remove sef?
U wana kant beach sand?
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by OGHENAOGIE(m): 10:57am On Mar 04, 2019
Gandollar:
I should be the one telling you to Google facts before reacting here. The delay in budget passing was because the parastatals refused to send in their budgets as and when due while some refused to come forward to defend their budgets. These hampard the work at the committee levels and delayed the process.

Refusing appointees on what grounds? Which particular appointees are those you talk about?

Always at loggerheads with the executive because for once in history, the assembly became truly independent. Is it because they didn't allow the paddings to continue or is it because where they spot paddings from the executive, they too will insist on their own paddings? You want to chop but you don't want others to chop? Is that it?

Buhari said he came to fight corruption and the Nass helped him expose some corruption cases he could have missed and Nigerians were happy. But you seem to suggest that they should have covered these frauds up kwoo?

leave those guys their brains don't function well...they think we are running a monarchy..to pass sm bills u need two third majority of d house that means smtimes u need to lobby members to have ur way...if apc make the mistake of imposing nass leaders then pdp ll help dem reset it...its called check mate in chess...this is presidential system so stop shouting party supremacy..it wrk in parliamentary system... leaders of nass ll be elected in nass nt out side

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Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by OGHENAOGIE(m): 11:00am On Mar 04, 2019
obailala:
The NASS may be a separate independent arm of government, but it is always in the best interest of the executive to ensure (via lobbying etc) that the elected heads of the legislators are in sync with the ideals of the president if the president must have a good ride. This is the standard case all over the world, including the best democracies. There is nothing wrong/ illegal/ undemocratic about the executive being concerned and being involved in the selection process of the heads of the NASS.
then do it with wisdom carry everyone along OK in us d republican don't control house of reps de still exist...remember on d day of inauguration of 9th nass the nass members ll elect their leader's dat day on d floor of d house
Re: Buhari Should Deal With Incoming National Assembly Like Obasanjo Did –Sagay by freeze001(f): 11:15am On Mar 04, 2019
Dannyset:


Wetin concern you, is it your party?

It is his, yours and my country! The national assembly is a constitutional body with national mandate though populated by persons elected on platforms of various political parties. All Nigerians are to be represented and have a stake regardless of the majority party or any other party for that matter.

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