Pearlyakin:
Insert is Ahmodu Tijani, a direct descendant of the founder of Lagos and Oluwa of Lagos in the 1920's.... He took the British to court in the early 1900's to protest the 1861 treaty of the British with Dosumu, arguing the the representative of the Oba of Benin at no time had rights to the Lands of Lagos and it was not his to give away..... A case he won based on historical evidence showing that the Idejo chiefs of Yoruba descent had always been the landowners of Lagos.....
There is one reason why Yoruba people don't gloat over lands they held historical stakes in but not their ancestral lands..... This is because we are blessed with expanse of lands that are very fertile and a large sea coast.... Even when some of our lands were taken and annexed into other regions, we were still ok with it..... but if we were to talk historically as is being said about Lagos, then Benin and Onitsha both belong to Yoruba people.....
The prince that founded Benin was called Eweka, he was the son of Oranmiyan who once ruled the people of the region. he founded this city because the most important nobility at Igodomigodo was hostile to the new alien dynasty from Ife and refused for him to rule from the main capital. He had to pay them for the right to lease the territory he ruled from. from this new capital, he built a kingdom designed along Yoruba spirituality like Tegbessou of Dahomey did. for many centuries, Benin paid homage to Ife as its source of leadership and spirituality untilt he arrival of the Birtish. This is is known fact of history before the many interesting revisionist stories natives of Benin engage in today to hide a terrible complex that have about how much they owe the Yoruba people for the advancement as a nation starting from the second dynasty..... Very much like the complex Igbos have at the mention of Ajayi Crowther as the man who brought christainity and exposure to Igbo land.... hsitorically, in Ajayi Crowther's journal, he expressed that before his arrival, Igbos lived in hunger and his expedition had the credit of teaching them how to farm and providing them with seeds. It was also Ajayi Crowther who built the first school in Igbo land as well as the first church, having brought Christianity to Igbo land... same Ajayi Crwother as a lingustics wrote the first Igbo alphabets and gave them the gift of putting Igbo language into words..... his grandson (Hubert Macaulay) was also the man that would groom Namdi Azikiwe from an activist into a politician and hand over the NCNC party to him..... The strong complex of the people of the East make them struggle so much with Yoruba benevolence to both Benin and Igbo people that they have given many recent revisionist stories about true ancestry of heroes from the Yoruba nation that played important roles in their emergence from a nation of backward people to one of a people with exposure and knowledge,
Onitsha did not exist until the mid 1500's, The people who call Lagos no man's land and estate of Benin also try to hide the true history of one of the most important Eastern cities. The foundation of Onitsha was laid by Benin nobles and the existence of the city was as a remote satelite extension of Benin, every new Obi must seek legitimacy by recivign a sword of authority from the Oba of Benin and it paid annual tributes to Benin... the most important Igbo figure of all times... Nnamdi Azikiwe confirmed in his book that Onitcha was founded by Benin and he was a direct descendant of his migrant founder from Benin.... This means Benin has rights to Onithsa and by extension, Yoruba has rights to Onitsha, since its nobility and spirituality foudned Benin..... Irrespective, Yoruba people do not care for their stake in these lands.... We are blessed with all we need in our ancestral lands.....
We don't need stakes in your land and we don't argue for rights to it. Don't argue for rights to ours. buying lands and building homes in the Southwest does not automatically give you ancestral rights. They are two different issues. Lagos was founded by Yoruba nobility from Ife. the 12 Idejo chiefs that originally owned the lands of Lagos since its founding are Yoruba and sons of one father. The OBA that launched a campaign to the western coastline was Oba Orogbhua....... he was not interested in the lands of Lagos, what he wanted was rights to the coast to monopolize trades by sea..... this was why negotiations was easy between the Idejo chiefs and the Oba, the treaty they signed gave the 12 chiefs rights to their lands while the king appointed by the Oba from Benin, was to regulate commerce and receive royalties..... this was why the Idejo chiefs took the British to court when Dosumu ceded Lagos to the British crown in 1861, claiming that the Oba of Lagos does not have such rights to the lands and could not sign it away..... the appellate court ruled in favor fo the Idejo chiefs and told the colonial government that they must always compensate the real owners of the land which is the Idejo chiefs anytime they needed land for colonial use in Lagos.
Lagos is the land of Aworis and the land owners are the Idejo chiefs. to continue to insult these people by calling their lands no man's land is a direct insult on their ancestral heritage. If You can't call Benin and Onitsha a no man's land, respect Lagos and its ancestral owners. even among us Yoruba people, we respect the right of the ancestral owners of Lagos. How much more migrants that did not know a place called Lagos existed before the amalgamation.

Dartilo:







Lets b realistic here yoruba founded benin,y don't u keep mute if u don't know what to say...
Before the second dynasty in benin there were Ogiso kings meaning gods of the sky and about 36rule Benin before oranmiyan came lets imagine each of the ogiso rule ten yrs each that equal 360 of ogiso rule,so therefore benin has been in existence bfor Oduduwa existed...

Oduduwa was a benin prince and heir to the throne in benin,but he was forcefully banish from benin and for the fear of it's life he ran along with it's followers to a place e called ile ife(i ran and i escape in benin language) on getting there he claim its identity as a son of a king a descendant of ogiso(god's of the sky)and they tot he fell from the sky and he chose a new name as Izoduwa(meaning i hve chose my path of prosperity in benin)now corrupted as oduduwa....

To set d record straight ryt from time immemorial ile ife has always been a small town, did ile ife conquer benin to mke oranmiyan king in benin...

After the death of the last ogiso know as ogiso owodo in benin,there was a civil war in benin different people wanted power so the five kings maker decided to look for the banish prince oduduwa of benin..Now oduduwa was now old so he sent it's son oranmiyan,oranmiyan met the war and oranmiyan never enter benin bcoz he was scared of being assasinated out of anger her left and called the city ubini meaning land of anger and he went to oyo....



Now in Oyo oranmiyan was said to be a great warror that he single handedly conquer the people he met there and made himself Alafin...
Now my question :why did he not singlehandedly conquer benin,or was it because he knew this were his people or he is a coward dat just ran away...

Why will benin run to ife to giv dem king since ife didn't colonize dem and since odudwa was d first oni and benin had36 ogiso already....
All this are simple logic

macof:


Oduduwa is from Oke-ora not Igodomigodo(now called Bini)

Dartilo:





No longer from mecca, the lamurrudu connection, stop hiding from the truth he was a Benin Prince

macof:
Yoruba traditions never had it that he came from Mecca, neither do we know of any Lamurudu.
If you have been seeing any of my posts on the topic, i have stated this severally.

However, the Bini claim is not even anchored in Bini traditions. It is an absolute fabrication just as muslims fabricated the mecca claim. but lies will never stand critical questions

lawani:
You can't wish away the mentioned Lamurudu and it was not from Muslims since Nimrod was not mentioned in the quran

macof:

@Dartilo.. You see..
People like this one are the problem and reason you think the narrative changed. These type of people have been very loud and due to either a clinic condition or sinister agenda have been making mecca claims for so long, but such claims are private and have nothing to do with what we received from our ancestors. Both bini and mecca claims don't add up nor are they traditional
The traditional narrative has always connected Odùduwà to Oke-ora

RedboneSmith:
Also produce evidence that the Obi of Onitsha received the sword of authority from Benin or sent tributes to Benin. The Obi of Onitsha doesn't even use the Ada sword.

macof:

@Dartilo.. You see..
People like this one are the problem and reason you think the narrative changed. These type of people have been very loud and due to either a clinic condition or sinister agenda have been making mecca claims for so long, but such claims are private and have nothing to do with what we received from our ancestors. Both bini and mecca claims don't add up nor are they traditional
The traditional narrative has always connected Odùduwà to Oke-ora

Dartilo:
The truth so far is that there is no doubt benin empire existed