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Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by reformed: 9:36am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Dear OP, I hope you can go to a village/country/place whose language you don't understand and effectively preach the Gospel of Christ and convert souls for Him, like was done in Acts chapter 2. If you can't, then you don't have the "gift of tongues". At least not the one we see in the Bible. Nobody needs any special gift to open mouth and spew any kind of gibberish. Anybody can do that. We need to stop deceiving ourselves. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Nobody: 9:38am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Speaking in Tongues And for people with mental illnesses Or people who Smokes highgrade Weeds or dried banana leaves, Ask your psychiatric. He/she will tell you the same. If you ever come across anyone speaking in tongues, Call a psychiatric ASAP. 2 Likes |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Rolly22(m): 9:44am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Chi59: I'm not surprised it's sheep like you that your pastor is baptizing with coke and Fanta. Mumu get brain small. 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by MuttleyLaff: 9:45am On Mar 10, 2019 |
AgamaProf:When people dont know the original and only purpose for the gift of speaking in tongue, they'll will misuse, abuse, distort, invent and twist the gift Chi59:Inadvertently roaring curses and damnation upon self. Just thank God from saving you from the end time deception of the demonic spirit Chi59:Nobi today yansh don tay for fowl back now. This is an over flogged subject in the same league and category as those spreading and promoting obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. Chi59:In my best Paul's style, impression and imitation, I ask: Who has bewitched you? Take it from me and authoritatively from the bible too, that the only level you are entering with those false and demonic tongues you speak, is the realm of darkness and the ungodly. 2 Likes |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Yemisi87: 9:48am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Gift for children of God. |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Korllami007: 9:55am On Mar 10, 2019 |
gustav25: Like shamalamala shibololo shikatatata nimpopoppo santalala 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Nobody: 10:07am On Mar 10, 2019 |
The problem with christians in nigeria or lets say in africa is delusion. Ranging from Tithing to Speaking in tongues, we have our bibles and cant read, even the ones that can read cant understand thereby given rooms for manipulators of the bible to churn out falsehood and falacies to many, its fo unfortunate. 3 Likes |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by pchukwudi: 10:23am On Mar 10, 2019 |
You are wrong my dear. The New Testament did not begin and end in the book of Acts. Contrary to your assertion, there are at least 3 different types of tongues that the Bible teaches. 1) Tongues in other known languages that the speaker did not know before. This was typically used as a sign of God's power/approval for the first batch of Christian missionary and evangelical works (Acts 2:1-4). 2) Tongues in unknown languages that may be interpreted by either the speaker or someone else in a congregation, via the inner intuition/witness given/inspired by the Holy Spirit. This is equal to simple words of edification/prophecy. And it should be typically used for public/congregational/church meetings/services. ( 1 Corinthians 14:27) 3) Tongues in unknown utterances/groaning which cannot be understood or interpreted by any human, but which God the Father perfectly understands and uses to edify us and intervene in critical situations of our lives and environment. This should be typically used for personal/private prayers - intercession or supplications, etc. (Corinthians 14:2-4). So, as you can see, there's much more to learn about this mystery rather than demonizing it. And, by the way, demons are much weaker than the angels of God. And satan has already been forever defeated by the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah! Truefaith: 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Samelfisha(m): 10:48am On Mar 10, 2019 |
The only people that speaks in Tongue are the Cherubim the rest are counterfeit. |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Nobody: 11:03am On Mar 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: You need prayers |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Elvis778(m): 11:05am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Philinho: pure lie, i don't know why some Christians decide to paint the main Christian belief with lies, now tell me, where is that verified in the bible?? The truth is, whether you speak in tongues or not, if you are worthy in God's sight, if you are clean enough to be granted a listening ear, if you are looked upon and granted mercy, the lord would always receive your prayers. Chikina 2 Likes |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by reformed: 11:06am On Mar 10, 2019 |
pchukwudi: Three different types of tongues? No, not true. Tongue as used in those passages you quoted simply mean language. You can check newer Bible versions many of them used language instead of tongue. So, tongues mean languages, unknown tongues mean, unknown languages. The Bible did not teach of three different types of languages either in Acts 2, or in 1 Corinthians 14. Thank you. 3 Likes |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by MuttleyLaff: 11:10am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Chi59:You, pchukwudi and OP need them more than I do 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Nobody: 11:20am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Laughing... |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Donwyz(m): 11:27am On Mar 10, 2019 |
80% of people that speak in tongues are speaking under their own control,,, I dont just know why most people force this gift upon themselves.....everybody can not have the same gift, some are not supposed to speak in tongues but teach, sing, etc.....moreover st Paul stressed that if you speak in tongues and they is no one to interpret it then its better you don't and shut up.....see Christians of this time the vex me o 2 Likes |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by akinpelu746: 11:28am On Mar 10, 2019 |
integritylady:The same spirit worketh all the gifts in us,you just have to manifest in it.As a believer we can operate in all gifts of the spirit but only few people operate in all and that's because most are ignorant of these. 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Tundesam923(m): 11:44am On Mar 10, 2019 |
1st peter 3:15 "always Revere Christ in your hearts. Always be prepared to give an answer to every one who asks you to give your reason for the hope that you have( Colossians 1: 27: Christ in me, the hope of glory) but do this with *gentleness and respect* . I hope the "unbelievers" ( it's harsh right? My atheist brethren? Hmmmm) But I hope you can come into the fullness of Christ which he bought with his body. Only he can fill the emptiness in our lives! |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by TruthHurts100: 11:45am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Trash. That scripture listed the languages those apostles spoke in. And people around confirmed they heard and understood those languages. Now tell us the meaning of that nonsensical gibberish you guys speak? 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by akinpelu746: 11:46am On Mar 10, 2019 |
Donwyz:1 Corinthians 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. Paul said that because of orderliness in church and that speaking in tongues edifies only the speaker but prophesy edifies also the heater,Speaking in tongues + interpretation =prophesy |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by FreshestManny(m): 11:55am On Mar 10, 2019 |
jiggaz: Em... "Oga praying in tongues" have u spoken REALLY in tongues before? Notice the emphasis on REALLY. Because I don't even understand why your type are so particular about this speaking in tongues issue to the extent y'all speak baby gibberish and feel like u r holier than the next human. 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by apelike1: 1:26pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
integritylady:speaking in tongues is not a gift but rather a sign of the believer! If you give your life to Christ you can speak in tongue freely. But if you are catholic kind of christain! Forget it. 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by apelike1: 1:29pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
jiggaz:depending! Many claim to be believer but there are not! If you are a catholic or those Yoruba churches! You are not a christain and you cant speak in tongue! |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Tundesam923(m): 1:41pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
apelike1:it's for all. "Am going to send a comforter who is going to be with you at all times" Jesus was love- pure and unadulterated love ...he came for everybody, so it really is for everybody that proclaim that he is the son of only and true God!!! |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Nobody: 1:41pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: In response to your last quote on my mention: Christians fall sick. Christians get poor. Christians even die. Jesus never promised us an easy journey. "Take up your CROSS and follow me" The cross is a symbol of pain and suffering. Not of enjoyment. You are sinning against the Holy Ghost by ascribing what is His to be demonic. It's a great sin. You're erring out of deep folly. I hope God doesn't judge you in your ignorance. And yes, I still speak in tongues. 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Revolva(m): 1:57pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Praying in which tongues hahahha I only speak in younger if u de collect BJ from a biatch |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Elvis778(m): 2:10pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
apelike1:and here you are judging the Catholics, do you even think you are half their standard?? The Catholic church is the only church I've not seen any form of deception in, together with the Anglican, so don't judge what you know nothing about and about speaking in tongues? Yes they do speak, alot and it's genuine, #catholic_charismatic_renewal |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by pchukwudi: 2:17pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
I think you are confusing yourself. Did you even bother to read those scriptures? If you did, you'd have seen where it says that no one (not even your own mind) understands you when you pray in certain tongues (without interpretation). That's definitely a different kind of tongue from the one we saw in Acts chapter 2, because there, folks who were watching actually understood what Peter and his friends where saying. And mind you, each one of those onlookers understood it in his/her own native language. This is like everyone on this forum understanding what I'm writing here in his/her native language even though, to me, I am writing it in English. The point is not on what you call it (language or tongue), the point is in the ability or not of the speaker (and everyone else) to understand what is being said. Yes, tongue can also be interpreted as language. But do you understand all human languages? How about the language (tongues) of angels? Can any human being understand or interpret that without revelation? Or did you not know that there's such a thing as language (tongues) of angels mentioned in the Bible? See 1Co13:1 Now, if you cannot understand all human languages, let alone grasping those of angels, why then do you think it's impossible for God to give you a personal spiritual language (or tongue) for prayers, which no one else but him alone understands? (Romans 8:26) reformed: |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Truefaith: 2:27pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
pchukwudi: How would you feel if told that all those your fine analysis of the various "tongues" came out of Azusa street AFTER the Pentecostal devotees were put to shame in Japan and China on their false tongue 'gifts'? How would you feel if told that Charles Parham and William Seymour thought their 'tongues' were the same as those in Acts 2:5-12? And that they only and shamelessly changed to the spurious analysis they passed down to you after they were disappointed their 'tongue' had no semblance with the tongues of the Bible? How would you feel if told that the Islamic Sufis, the Hindus, the serious Egungun, Oro and other occult idol worshipers speak the SAME TONGUES that Pentecostals and Charismatics speak? Which, really, do you think is a miracle worthy of the majesty of God: a Yorubaman suddenly and fluently conversing in Effik or Chinese without prior education or the Satanic two-syllabic gibberish normally used in covens occult people now call 'tongue' in fake churches? All of this is to help whoever cares to know the truth to pay better attention to the source and contents of their beliefs in relation to what is in the Bible. WHAT THE PENTECOSTALS AND THE CHARISMATICS CALL TONGUE ORIGINATED FROM THE OCCULT AND IT IS STILL SPOKEN THERE IN THE SAME WAY AND FASHION THESE DELUDED PEOPLE SPEAK THEIR 'TONGUE'. And how does the following come into the discussion of demonic deception: "And, by the way, demons are much weaker than the angels of God. And satan has already been forever defeated by the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah"? You mean demons don't have enough power to deceive people again? Do you still have Revelation 13:12-14 on the Devil deceiving the whole world in your Bible? As Paul said in 1 Cor 14:37-38: "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant". https://www.thetruechristianfaith.com/2017/01/07/a-biblical-study-on-tongues/ 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by MuttleyLaff: 2:35pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Chi59:Without malice or being unkind, you are under a delusion and have allowed yourself to be lied to, if you think you speak in tongues or pray in tongues. Do you know some have been known to ''pray in tongues" on Facebook too? I wonder when you'll upgrade to Facebook "praying in tongues" too. Or will that be stretching the lie too much for you with that, huh? The gift of speaking in tongue actually is a sign for unbelievers and/or the unbelieving. The three times the gift of speaking of tongues was recorded in the Bible, it on each ocassion happened to dispel unbelief and/or convert the unbelieving. No one has to believe me on this just on face value, not even jiggaz or pchukwudi sef, as they can verify what and/or all I say about it from the Bible. Now the thing is, people, especially typical Africans like your true self, because of being accustomed to "ògèdè and/or ọfọ̀" and/or reciting incantations, are propelled to mix their own ATR ideas and understanding, against the teachings of the Bible and what the Bible actually is saying. They need a crutch, so this make-believe SPEAK and/or PRAY in tongues charade has to be invented. It is among the last bastion of ATR and/or pagan mentality that needs to be shrugged off God understands all human languages, which is what tongues means, so it doesn't matter to God, what tongue anybody chooses to speak in. This gift of speaking in tongues matter, is so cool, simple and straightforward but you guys, just have to turn the gift on its head and into something else unrecognisable, like I earlier said, into glorified "ògèdè and/or ọfọ̀" or reciting incantations. Chi59:I know how you think you speak in tongues and about how you think that "speaking in tongue" is uttering, some, not of this world but is heavenly language or angelic language, right? 1/ Why and what is the benefit, of speaking in a language you dont understanding what is being said? 2/ Why cant you, why dont you prefer to speak and/or pray in a language, you understand what you've just said? 3/ Dont you want to know, what the content(s) of all and each you are saying, are? 4/ Also where in the bible, had anyone prayed in tongues, whether prayed privately or publicly in tongues? 5/ Why are you trying to defend the indefensible, when there are guidelines in the bible that clearly and without doubt, states not to be speaking in tongues without interpretation, huh Chi59? You thought I was joking when I said this is an overflogged discussion here on Nairaland, huh? I've been there, been here, sold it, done it and even have the "speaking in tongue" souvenir t-shirt I bought, so how I know and can say a bit and more about the subject to you. 1 Like |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by pchukwudi: 3:50pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
Truefaith: Dude, I was giving you scriptural analysis with Biblical references, and you're here ranting about Seymour and Azusa Street? Do you think that 1Cor. 14:2-4 and Romans 8:26 were written just a little over 100 years ago? Very funny. Truefaith: . Bros, you are actually sounding so much like a Pharisee. Are you one? Asking because, just like you are now demonizing the Holy Ghost because of what you don't understand about the work of God, the Pharisees also demonized the Holy Ghost and claimed that Jesus was casting out devils by the chief devil, Belzebub. (Luke 11:15) You sure learnt your antichristian lines very well. By the way, did you notice that what you now call the Wonders of God in Acts Chapter 2, some unreasonable bystanders who witnessed it actually called it Wine Babbling. . I'm sure the future generations, say from 2119, will see the crap you talk now about tongues, and wonder the kind of human being you are to have missed something so glaringly glorious. Truefaith: I put it there for you demon magnifying folks to know that Jesus has been glorified, and he is now the central focus of the universe. Not any of those your wanton ugly demons. Truefaith: Yep, only those who refuse to accept the truth would be vulnerable to delusions. For us in Christ, Satan is defeated forever. |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by pchukwudi: 4:07pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Your entire 5 questions are answered by just one verse of Scripture: Rom. 8:26. Thing, is the language you rant about is the invention of humans for inter-personal communication. But if you know anything about the human makeup (especially the mind) you'd know that countless impulses that are processed by your brains cannot be articulated in words or human language. What am I even saying, the fact that you got stuck in the limitations of human language does not mean that clearly articulated speech is the only form of language. Finally: 1 Corinthians 14:2 - KJV Got it? |
Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by damocool(m): 4:32pm On Mar 10, 2019 |
jiggaz:Gibberish, speaking in tongues isn't only the sign of Holy spirit indwelling a born again Christian. Speaking in tongues is even a normal language, u don't learn it or just decide to start as u said.. The spirit gives you utterances not controlled by urself like u wrote up there.. What most people called speaking in tongues today is next to nonsense.. |
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