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|Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 12:34am On Mar 16|
Good morning nairalanders! Knowing that the Bible is not the scriptures, but a collection of the scriptures. Now, Looking at some Bible passages; example: Between 1 Cor. 14:35 & 36, they seem to be some missing sentence(s), because both do not agree in sequence. Moreso, I have heard people say that THE SEVEN BOOKS OF MOSES is part of the Bible. Also I have come across some Bibles with other books which contain real and more indebt Bible stories like the book of TABITHA e.t.c. I can also recall of a certain time we heard that a new scroll had been found. Whether we may want to believe it or nay, some verses in the Bible SEEM contradictory which is a major reason we have herd of DENOMINATIONS everywhere(Bunch of christians that do not agree yet use the same BIBLE). It's just a thought that has been hitting me for a while now; what if they were actually missing scriptures, could they not be an answer to explain seemly-contradictory verses and end christian contention? #Note: Not concluding, just inquisitive.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by YoungFr(m): 12:47am On Mar 16|
Welcome to my page, I have been wanting answers
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 12:50am On Mar 16|
YoungFr:ThankGod I'm not alone.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OCEANMORGAN: 12:54am On Mar 16|
There are so many books of the Bible that where scrapped out. Originally the books of the Bible were more than the 66 books we have today.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 12:56am On Mar 16|
OCEANMORGAN:Are you for real? But why?
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OCEANMORGAN: 1:23am On Mar 16|
Some books of the Bible talks more about war especially the life of GIDEON, the early Christian clerics look at the teaching from part of Bibles like that to cause war if they will continue teaching them. So, the edited and removed some parts. If the Bible should take total account of what happened during the life time of Jesus christ alone without the old testament, how many thousands of pages will the Bible be??
Read Babylon mystery religion.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 1:28am On Mar 16|
OCEANMORGAN:Wow! Thanks! But that would have solved some Bible misinterpretations, don't you think?
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OCEANMORGAN: 1:31am On Mar 16|
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by TVSA: 7:43am On Mar 16|
Paul mentioned an epistle to the Laodiceans in the bible. Jude also mentioned something about Michael and Moses' body that were not recorded in any book in the old testament. Also, he talked about the prophecy of Enoch. These things must have been in some books that are not part of the bible.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by ysyowel(m): 7:50am On Mar 16|
all the books exist but not all are inspired to be part of the scriptures, they are removed but still exist, you can check them online. Is not like Qur'an that some books were collected and the rest burned.
second the Bible is complete nothing is missing is only we that don't actually understand it. All that God wanted us to know are written except the secret things
Deuteronomy 29:29 KJV
The secret things belong unto the Lord our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
Another thing I want you to know is Christian differ because, we have different Spiritual gift, talent, understanding, some people are babies some are matured and you don't expect them to behave the same, some operate mostly base on the law some grace while some both the law and grace. Romans say something about this differences between the week and the strong.
Romans 14:1-8 KJV
Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.  For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.  Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.  Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.  One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike . Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.  He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it . He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.  For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.  For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
another differences is the local church roles, we all know in every service we do praised, worshiped, offered, announced and sometimes Thanksgiving/ testimony, the order and the timing differ from church to church
sometimes the differences comes from agreement, the Bible say
Matthew 16:19 KJV
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
one church agree on one thing another church on another but God accepted and approved them all
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OpenYourEyes1: 7:56am On Mar 16|
What are the contradictory verses? List:
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 9:11am On Mar 16|
TVSA:Really? Don't you think those displaced books are pertinent?
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by paxonel(m): 9:12am On Mar 16|
They do agree in sequence, if you do not understand ask questions.
1 Cor 14:15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
1 cor 14:16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit,(in otherwords, when you are used by the spirit) how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned(in otherwords, someone who is not learned to understand you gift of the spirit) say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
Sometimes the logic of certain scriptures can be complex but that doesnt mean they are not making sense.
If you can follow the logic carefully, you will see the sense.
Verse 16 simply implies that because someone who is not learned in the spirit may not understand another person who speaks in the spirit, there is need for that person to interprette what he is saying in the spirit to the understanding of the common man language for everyone to understand.
I dont think there is anything hard there to understand
if all these books are found and eventually infused in the bible it will still not change the basic fundamentals or idea the bible comes with.
Its like someone is winning election with 1000 votes and his opponent is having 300 votes, if there were 150 voided votes of the opponent and the election body decides to validate the 150 voided votes they will still not stop the man with 1000 votes from winning the election.
I am saying this because i have read Genesis to revelation back to back several times and subject everything to logical reasoning, THERE IS NO ATOM OF CONTRADICTION.
not even one.
the several denominations arises as a result of the different ways people can understand the bible, not that the bible is saying one thing and another thing at the same time .
If you ask bishop oyedepo how he understands john 3:16, he will give you a different perspective from how pastor adeboye understands it,It is as a result of variation in the human brain.
But meanwhile, john 3:16 will have a different message from the understanding of these men it will supprise you.
there is nothing like contraction my brother, it is human inability to understand simple logic
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 9:15am On Mar 16|
OpenYourEyes1:Please ask me later.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 9:17am On Mar 16|
@Paxonel, pardon me, I meant to type 1 COR. 14:35 AND 36
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 9:22am On Mar 16|
@Paxonel, please not I used the word SEEMS and bolded it in other to show emphasy.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 9:26am On Mar 16|
@Ysyowel, I still haven't gotten your point. I don't agree that "local roles" or gifts are a major cause of christian differences. If you can make your point very explicit, I would be grateful! Shalom!
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by TVSA: 10:26am On Mar 16|
some of the books were removed because of their contents. The compilers didn't agree with the messages in the books
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 11:52am On Mar 16|
TVSA:Imagine!!! They would have also removed SONGS OF SOLOMON.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Agrogbeide: 11:55am On Mar 16|
Under the new covenant, it is only the HOLY SPIRIT and not the HOLY BIBLE that is to lead us in the TRUTH. John 14:26,16:13, Hebrews 8:10-11 etc. But however because of the INFINITE WISDOM OF GOD, THE BEGINNING END, He deem it fit to document some inspirations (THE HOLY BIBLE) that will act as a guide line for all Christians and also as a circumference that all who name the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR CAN PROPERLY FIT IN.
Whether the recognize 66 books or the Apocryphas the key note of all should be if they recognize JESUS CHRIST AS LORD, GOD, SON, SPIRIT AND THE MESSIAH. If any of them disapprove the LORD JESUS CHRIST in respect to these personalities such book should be FORBIDDEN.
I have read the BOOK OF ENOCH and I must say it is a GOOD READ because it acknowledge the Lord Jesus Christ in regards to the qualities stated above and same with other books that are termed apocryphas.
There are many information that was purposely not included in the 66 books because the ones already documented for us is enough, especially the works and deeds of the Lord Jesus Christ. John 20:30-31
Also, there are "seeming contradictions" in the Bible but when you study with the Mind and leading of the Holy Spirit you will find out that from Genesis to Revelation is and has always been a smooth path and it can be clearly studied and understood without any iota of doubt.
We should pray for more revelations of the grace, knowledge and understanding of the Lord Jesus Christ.
I BELIEVE IN THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST AND HIM ALONE IS THE PERFECT WAY, TRUTH AND LIFE.
GOD BLESS US.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 12:08pm On Mar 16|
@Agrogbeide, God bless you real good. Very explicit! I love the fact you realized that "seeming contradictions", and you did justice to it. THANK YOU!!!
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by paxonel(m): 12:11pm On Mar 16|
Dvd4:ok, so whats the contradiction in this scripture, that women speaking in church is contradictive?
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Agrogbeide: 12:38pm On Mar 16|
Dvd4:God bless you too bro.
When I come across this "seeming contradictions" when studying, I pause and begin to ask God questions, it might take immediately to unravel that contradiction, days, weeks or few months, but I thank God for His Mercy, Grace and Love for all the answers given to me by His Holy Spirit. In conquering "seeming contradictions" have this plainly in mind...... LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN BE A LIAR. Romans 3:4.
The Written Word of God is TRUE and all contradictions, wisdom, knowledge or understanding that are meant to counter attack it are LIARS.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 4:11pm On Mar 16|
paxonel:On that, please read the post again. I was talking about sentence omission.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OpenYourEyes1: 4:47pm On Mar 16|
Also book of Esdras. It is such a beautiful book. I don't understand why it was excluded.
Here is what it says about Jesus Christ. (note that this is an old testament book):
28 My son the Messiah will be revealed, together with those who come with him. He will bring four hundred years of happiness to all these survivors. 29 At the end of that time, my son the Messiah and all human beings will die. 30 Then the world will return to its original silence, and for seven days it will be like it was at the beginning. No one will be left alive. 31 After seven days this corrupt age will pass out of existence and a new age will be awakened. 32 The ground will give up the dead who sleep there in silence, and the souls of the dead will be released from the places where they have been kept. 33 God Most High will appear on his judgment seat. Mercy and patience will vanish completely 34 and be replaced by judgment. Truth and faithfulness will once again stand firm.
2 Esdras 5; 28—34
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OpenYourEyes1: 4:49pm On Mar 16|
I guess "my son will die" scared them off the book.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Auki: 5:10pm On Mar 16|
Bible is far from complete. Some stories you know as a child are entirely fabricated. Like the story of a prostitute and stoning issues and many more.
Do ur research, do not accept many postulating that the problem is your lack of understanding. Your brain is for a purpose
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Agrogbeide: 5:10pm On Mar 16|
OpenYourEyes1:The book of Enoch also shed more light on this.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 5:14pm On Mar 16|
WOW! OpenYourEyes1, this is awesome oh! I must try getting these books soon.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by OpenYourEyes1: 5:15pm On Mar 16|
Yes, Jesus is also in the book of enoch.
It is a great book.
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by Dvd4: 5:20pm On Mar 16|
Auki:Please explain. What kind stories are the PROSTITUTE AND STONING?
|Re: Is The Bible Really Complete? by sonmvayina(m): 5:37pm On Mar 16|
The heart and soul of the Bible is the Torah(genesis to deuteronomy) every other is a foot note..
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