lenghtinny:
Nonsense doctrine.....

You don't play calm with a violent opposition.... Someone is out to destroy you and you claim it's not right for you to attack when attack is the best form of defense...

Kill them before they kill you fam.... If not that Murder is a criminal offense, there are some people whom I wouldn't mind blasting their head off with a shotgun at close range

chiommy123:
Op I used to think like you until they opened my eyes. You don't know what they do with peoples destiny these days.

Richdad50:


Follow this Writer at your own risk. Every man knows his battle and the weight of his burden. He who enters a battlefield with smiles and laughter should never complain of the seriousness of his enemies. No one enters a battle with the intention to give a speech, it is a place of weapons and deadly confrontation. It is either you stop them or they stop you.

Many believers have been cut short in life, returning back to God without the fulfillment of their purpose because they slipped before their enemies. You must understand the mindset of an enemy and know that your enemy does not wish to sit on a peace table with you neither does he want to wait and see the manifestation of your purpose. He is not patient and his aim is to destroy you.

Don't allow this modern warfare preachers decieve you with their mushroom approach to spiritual warfare. Don't be overly focused on the potential of your enemies but on your own powerful strike abilities. With that, you will live a normal and friendly life with people in the open but a dangerous man of prayer in the secret.

Richdad

Onistephen2:
Take it or leave it, anything other than what the OP posted is not Bible. Bible is not what you interpret to give you what you want to hear but rather what God is saying.

As great as Elijah and Elisha were, they were never God's standard but Jesus. On how many instances have you seen Jesus (who is our standard, the express image of God Hebrews 1:3) prayed such prayers

You think to kill your enemies is easier and faster for God than to make them repent.

lionness:
My enemies MUsT die!!!!!

tunjijones:


And there are some pple too who wldnt mind blasting ur head with shot gun. Don't you knw u are also enemy to some pple?

A cleaner in my office was always coming late. Wen this persisted o had no choice but to report her to the cleaning company and they sacked her. The girl took me as her enemy and started going to church to pray that I die. Lol

lionness:
My enemies MUsT die!!!!!

poseidon12:


How are you sure the so called 'fall down and die' prayers have been working for some people? If it has been working, Nigeria's population would not be in the millions.

efficiencie:
...tales by moonlight...you never suffer! When humans who have sold their soul to the devil deal with you squarely you will see sand and call it food, you will see rag and call it designer shirt...without any preaching from anyone you will start praying: Psalm 7: 6 Arise, O LORD, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: and awake for me to the judgment that thou has commanded. Even Jesus said in Luke 18:7 And shall not GOD avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto hum, though he bear long with them? ...why are they crying day and night? Why must GOD avenge them? Dey dia they form western Christianity. This is Africa where your forefathers were into all manner of evil and you by birth inherited the balance sheet of their lives! Even Paul, vexed by those who were trying to ruin his labor among the Galatians, said in Galatians 5:12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you ...even Paul understands that there are people who are emissaries of hell who though alive on earth are actively fighting for the kingdom of hell and trying to ruin the gospel among the Galatians and he said he preferred that these satanic people be cut off... is that a soft language? Only children who know nothing about spiritual warfare declare that warfare against unrepentant human allies of satan is ungodly! Dey dia your village people go soon test run their latest machine ontop ya head!

orbitalgis:
I think this is quite insightful but the part of the lord's prayer that says 'forgive us as we forgive those that trespass against us' was not included in your post.We say this prayer so often that it has become banal.We want to be forgiven by God but we lack the power to forgive.I understand where the comments about jungle justice has come from but . then again a criminal is subject to the national or state penal codes.Anyone that actively participates or even a spectator(accomplice) is subject to be judged under the penal code as a criminal or an accomplice.

lionness:
My enemies MUsT die!!!!!

Truefaith:
Thanks to the person who posted this.

But the issue is a little deeper than the analysis presented here.

It is not African or Nigerian: it is human, world-wide.

One of the clearest tell-tale signs that a man is not born again is that he demands retribution on those that offend him.


The story in Matthew 18:21-35 makes this very plain.

For the benefit of those who are not familiar with the Bible here it is:




Until a man grasps the depth and gravity of the consequences of his own sins against God, he does not see the smallness of the sins of his fellowmen against him.



Everyone praying for the death or destruction of those that offend him HAS NOT KNOWN GOD


All so-called 'Churches' preaching such doctrines have no connections whatsoever to the Lord Jesus Christ.


https://www.thetruechristianfaith.com/2016/09/11/the-mountain-of-fire-and-miracles-the-sermon-from-the-serpent/

chiommy123:
Op I used to think like you until they opened my eyes. You don't know what they do with peoples destiny these days.

lenghtinny:

That's the more reason you should kill them before they kill you..... It's a dog eat dog world fam, don't be lenient with nobody especially when the spiritual realm is involved...

Besides the people I'm talking about are way above your example cause you don't know much about that statement...

unstoppable51:
From FeedMeJesus.com

A common practice in so many Nigerian and African churches in general, is the prayer of “my enemies fall and die!”

In case you are not familiar with this sort of prayer probably because you are reading this from outside the continent, “fall and die” prayers actually has to do with the “sending of Holy Ghost fire, earthquakes, thunder, rainfall etc to kill and destroy one’s enemies (mostly witches and wizards) and evil spirits.”

The prayer is often targeted at “wicked” uncles, aunts, neighbours, colleagues, mothers, fathers, herbalists, old men and women in villages who does not take pleasure in seeing other people succeed in life.

Sometimes it is also targeted at politicians, leaders and even business people who oppose the spread of the Gospel and “exchange people’s destinies” for money.

This type of prayer is seriously backed up with the belief that there are people who must die before you can ever be successful in life and so you need to pray for this to happen as soon as possible with all your strength. Like a wounded Lion, you must be very violent when praying these fall and die prayers.

The shocking thing is, the two most popular scriptures proponents of such prayers always put their feet on has little or nothing to do with their usage today. The first is Matt.11:12.

(Mat 11:12) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Is this verse asking you to be violent in prayer and take your destiny by force? Well to understand what it is saying, let us read it from another translation.

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. Matt.11:12 NIV

The verse is simply saying from the time John the Baptist started preaching the kingdom of God has been forcefully advancing on the earth as men has by faith been taking hold of it. It has nothing to do with prayers, let alone violent ones.

The other scripture used to promote these “fall and die” prayers is the passage that describes how Elijah killed King Ahaziah’s soldiers by commanding physical fire to come out from nowhere and consume them.

(2Ki 1:9) Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he went up to him where he was seated on the top of a hill, and said to him, O man of God, the king has said, Come down.

(2Ki 1:10) And Elijah in answer said to the captain of fifty, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. Then fire came down from heaven and put an end to him and his fifty men.

(2Ki 1:11) Then the king sent another captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he said to Elijah, O man of God, the king says, Come down quickly.

(2Ki 1:12) And Elijah in answer said, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and put an end to him and his fifty men.

What most people do not know is that although fire actually appeared and destroyed those soldiers, it wasn’t God’s best. God was never pleased with it. He is never pleased with the death of the wicked.

(Eze 18:23) Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

(Eze 18:32) For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

Under the dispensation that Elijah lived in, the knowledge of God and His modules operandi was very very limited. So folks in those days said and did things according to their level of knowledge that were contrary to what God would have them do.

This was part of the reason God became flesh in His Son Jesus to give us a perfect representation of His true nature, will and character. Ending an era of attributing evil, death and destruction to Him. This is so clear in that in the face of the strongest opposition Jesus never killed but healed and restored life to His enemies.

(Heb 1:1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

(Heb 1:2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

(Heb 1:3) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

So in Christ’s dealing with man, we see the true nature of God. In His words, Jesus puts it this way.

(Joh 10:10) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Just a little while after those words, He set out with His disciples to Jerusalem for a preaching engagement and the Samaritans would not allow Him pass through their city because they were not at peace with the Jews.

When His disciple saw what was happening, they got so upset they wanted to call down fire to consume the Samaritans who were their enemies and enemies of the Gospel at that moment. But what did Jesus do? Let’s see it together from the scriptures.

(Luk 9:51) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,

(Luk 9:52) And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

(Luk 9:53) And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

(Luk 9:54) And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

(Luk 9:55) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Verse 55 said Jesus REBUKED them for even having that thought alone. The word “rebuked” in that verse is not like when you softly tell your son, “Son don’t do this again.” No, it’s a very strong word. It is used almost the same way it is used to say Jesus rebuked demons. Very strongly.

He was very serious about them not imitating Elijah in this manner at all. And in verse 56 we see His reasons clearly.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them….

In praying for those in authority and for all men in general, Paul gives us a guideline.

(1Ti 2:1) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

(1Ti 2:2) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

(1Ti 2:3) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

(1Ti 2:4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God would have all men (including your village people. LOL) to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the Truth. He doesn’t want anyone perishing.

Some say it is not the human beings they are praying to die but the evil spirits behind their wickedness. Like seriously? Spirits don’t die! Even if they do, it is not within your authority biblically to kill them. Only God can and that’s why He made Hell, their place of eternal death.

The Bible said believers should cast them out, not kill them in the name of Jesus.

(Mar 16:17) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Be humble and remain within the confines of the scriptures and stop making Christianity look like a joke with those extra Biblical practices or those not permitted for the man in Christ today.

I hope this blesses you.

Glory to God!


Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/fall-and-die-prayers.html

mrkings84:
Oga OP I respect ur views in as much as they are scriptural. But i don't total agree with u cos these so witches and wizards do really exist most especially in Africa.

Let me ask u a simple question. If these witches lay hold on ur destiny, business, health, marriage, family etc and totally destroy them, and u know if u pray that they fall down and die that they will let u be, won't u pray it??


Anyway, the same Bible says in
Exodus 22:18, Suffer not a witch to live.
Basecon ur understanding u can pet them till they destroy u, but

As for me, anyone, (witches or wizards), spiritual wickedness in high places, or even any wicked politician making life difficult for me, or that's trying to terminate my destiny must face the music squarely.

They must fall down and die in Jesus name, Amen.

sacx:


If any man is in Christ, he is a new creature. Who can take or manipulate your destiny when you have it hidden in Christ? You declare, my life is hid with Christ in God, but you don't trust him enought to keep your destiny. Do we really believe in Jesus?

Reference:


This is an example of what I am saying.

The Righteous believer knows who his antagonist is and how he should be handled because he understands the Word which makes it clear. '...your adversary, the Devil... 1Peter 5:8.

The Righteous believer knows how to handle his antagonist the Devil because he understands the Word which makes it clear. '...resist him by STANDING in the faith... 1Peter 5:9.

The Righteous believer know how to avoid getting into a position of endless battles against the Devil his adversary because he understands the Word which makes it clear '.... be sober and vigilant.... 1 Peter 5:8 or in plain english it means to be 'clear headed' and 'attentive'.

Now, the last person who will be clear headed is one who is confused by smoke and mirrors, by deception and simulation. The last person who will be clear headed is one who the Devil has distracted to think he has multiple enemies instead of just ONE ADVERSARY, he himself.

When I was in the military one of the basic lessons of Infantry Field Craft was deception. A section or platoon engaging the enemy must do everything to ensure it appears bigger, more numerous and have superior fire power than it actually has while remaining invidible, well camouflaged in reality. Appearance deception, noise deception, etc was standard military doctrine and training. The purpose is to distract, degrade and demoralise the enemy into putting up confused, random and insignificant resistance. To maje them talk and worry, fret and flee instead of fight.

If the Devil can convince you of some perceived enemy out there and makes you believe they are numerous, powerful and a threat to your life he will have succeeded in occupying your thought process and rendering you unable to engage he himself. An army that has no intelligence unit to know the strengths and weaknesses, the capacity and capability of its adversary is bound to be defeated.

Know your Bible by yourself. Stop listening to your prophet or ignorant pastor who tells you you have multiple, unknown, random enemies out there. There is only ONE ENEMY and you know him. Go after him. If you are fighting an unknown entity you will waste your ammunition and tire out.

Christianity is a knowledge based religion. Nothing is ultimately hidden to those who will study and understand. Stop being deceived. No humanoid is your enemy in Christ.

Unconquerable:
Happy Birthday.

lenghtinny:
Nonsense doctrine.....

You don't play calm with a violent opposition.... Someone is out to destroy you and you claim it's not right for you to attack when attack is the best form of defense...

Kill them before they kill you fam.... If not that Murder is a criminal offense, there are some people whom I wouldn't mind blasting their head off with a shotgun at close range

tunjijones:


Dude God is not a killer. Those prayers don't get ansas