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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by tintingz(m): 6:34pm On Mar 29, 2019
Khaleell001:

You end up. like an intelligent fool when you decide to say rubbish on every post you think this e go online with your warped reasoning.

Even common science tells us that and uncovered food pose far more greater risk than covered food.

We know some virgins are not really good with their habit, but that does not mean they didn't meet one of the required standard of being a virtuous woman.

But the point is, your quotes are not really needed to validate what is true.
First of all you don't compare food with human genital, that's illogical and nonsensical. So what happens when virgins are disflowered by their husband, what next?

Being a virgin doesn't reflect on ones character, they differ. A non-virgin can be far virtuous than a virgin.

We know many Christian ladies today have become what you can term "don't judge me ladies. "
They do what God has forbidden yet they tell us not to judge them.
Can you eat sugar cane that is not yours openly and and tell us we shouldn't say you stole?

It's only an unrepentant hypocrite that will see something wrong with what have been said.
What about Muslim girls?

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 9:20pm On Mar 29, 2019
sarahade:

Another pervert spotted.
If being a pervert by telling you the truth then so do be it.
By the way, who knows if you are not another deluded pervert. very likely.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by sarahade(f): 11:10pm On Mar 29, 2019
Khaleell001:


If being a pervert by telling you the truth then so do be it.

By the way, who knows if you are not another deluded pervert.
very likely.

Do You have a vagina?No so your truth doesn't matter useless pervert.

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Nobody: 5:27am On Mar 30, 2019
Khaleell001:


And if you a Muslim lady who just vomited this poo, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Where does in Islam. say we should "mind our business " when people are now turning vice into virtue of and virtue into vice.
No normal morally upright Muslim whether make kd female will say this rubbish.

See, in Islām we will judge you as long as you learn not to hide your sins and shameless behavior.

If you are not a virgin, don't come with that line of defense of castigating or belittling those who are; we will call you out.


The sunnah wasn't that the Prophet(SAW) educated women, about sex, or even intimate hygiene, but instead He(SAW) taught Aisha(RA), who then taught the women... I'm sure He(SAW)was too shy, and that's where the blessings for aisha came along... Aisha(RA) was a scholar who taught men after the Prophet's passing 《 by disguising her voice, as she kept a pen in her mouth so that her voice doesn't distract from the sermons》making her the first female scholar, and hence she was often called *Mother of the Pearl* (the uma)

I could be wrong, as Allah(SWT) knows best...

I think your approach and deliverance of this message was unguided. A man has no business using the name of Allah, and the explicit and graphic language you used to describe rather a sensitive topic.

This thread was an epic fail, may you be wise enough to learn in every opportunity. Amen.

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Meekha(m): 7:47am On Mar 30, 2019
The day I stopped taking these Muslim guys and girls serious is the day I saw I Muslim guy masturbating in a public e-library. Hitherto I use to think that these guys are a true representation of what they "look like" or what they "say". The guy was actually browsing and then he opened a new browser but was careful to minimize it so it wouldn't be a centre of attraction. So every now and then, he'll open it and watch and then closes it quickly when he detects an unusual movement around him. I was already disgusted but was shocked to my bone marrow when I saw him slip his hands into his trousers and start masturbating. Now the other people that came to browse were all minding their business and didn't seem to notice.. But some how, whether it's by luck or whatever I caught him. I allowed him to "do" himself after all it's his body and nit mine.. How do I know that he is a Muslim?? After about 20mins of his disgraceful behaviour, another guy came and they greeted in their normal Muslim way that "salaam aleikum" stuff like that.

Second case scenerio..

I was using the school WiFi and one guy came to use it also. He had deformity in one of his legs and he was in one WhatsApp group..From what I saw it was a "sex group" or whatever but they constantly uploads porn videos there..Now he'll click on each of those videos and download them..I was watching him with my side eye..he literally downloaded more than 15 of the videos in my presence because the WiFi speed was actually fast. After he was done, he left..how do I know he was a Muslim?? After he was done, he beckoned on one of his friends that it was time for their prayers, that they should go and pray..

Third case scenario

I was doing my project with the school library's computer and one of my classmates (A Muslim) came and asked for a ten minutes favour to use the system to reach out to one of his friends on Facebook. Since he couldn't place the name, he decided to search it in Facebook's search engine and the the first letter he typed (Which started with "H"wink brought out a list of his previous searches and one of them is "How to suck a woman's nipples"! I was shocked because this was a guy who was perceived as one of the best behaved by their Muslim brothers because he never seemed to interact very much with ladies.

Fourth case scenario

I boarded a bus and a Muslim lady on her hijab sat beside me. Then another Muslim man came but he refused to sit beside the lady, his reason?? yes! you guessed it right, it was probably not holy for him..Well after a while when he saw that no other bus was in sight and he was probably late for work, he had no other option but to sit beside her and the bus zoomed off! When it was time to alight, he already sustained an erection and he stylishly came down from the bus to prevent people from noticing! All these happened just because he was sitting close to a lady who was all covered up!!

Fifth case Scenario

I was chatting with a Muslim lady who was my classmate. He started giving me romantic lines and introducing vulgar words and when she saw that I wasn't following suit, she stopped chatting with me and started avoiding me ever since that chat

Sixth case scenario

I was also chatting with a Muslim girl who was an acquaintance. She uploaded something on her Whatsapp status which indicated that she had some questions for anyone who was ready to answer..I replied to her status ànd she sent the questions..Wow what I saw is better not said.. Imagine a question like this "What do you like most about my body"?? "Have you had a crush on me before"?? "If you have the chance would you Bleep me"?? "What is your favourite sex position"?? etc. about nineteen hot questions!! Well I answered most of them in the negative.. Ever since then, she also started avoiding me too. seems like it's a tactics ..In fact this particular one hated me afterwards..

PS: I am not a Muslim and that nonsense oath that we Christians must take before commenting on Muslim threads is uncalled for. Although most of the Christian comments on Muslim threads are bad..I can also attest to this fact. I try as much as possible to respect their choice of Islam and I think every Christian should respect and tolerate it too..

Now all I have typed are real situations that occurred as I have no reason to lie against anyone for any stupid reason. I have often seen Muslim guys accuse Christian ladies of not being moral and always exalt their Muslim sisters.. Nothing can be further from the truth.. What I have seen in my little existence is enough to make me believe that what you say with your mouth is not what you really are!! Most people who trash people for being "unholy" or "immoral" are the worst themselves.. The truly holy ones seldom judge or condemn people. If you are hurt by this, please my sincere apologies but I have said it the way I have seen it! Thanks and PEACE!!!!

One love to my Muslim and Christian brothers..

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 9:46am On Mar 30, 2019
sarahade:


Do You have a vagina?No so your truth doesn't matter useless pervert.

I know you are greatly pained that people are calling out your bad behaviour.

Must I have a vagina to say something is wrong?
You think we gave to be from. a particular gender to say something is bad?
I guess you know of the hadeeth where the prophet said that he saw most occupant of the fire as women.
Does it mean he was being mean to women?

Sometimes I see why some of you are always confused when something is said concerning your attitude.

It seems you are too dull to understand hence you resort to insult.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 9:53am On Mar 30, 2019
Guest007:


The sunnah wasn't that the Prophet(SAW) educated women, about sex, or even intimate hygiene, but instead He(SAW) taught Aisha(RA), who then taught the women... I'm sure He(SAW)was too shy, and that's where the blessings for aisha came along... Aisha(RA) was a scholar who taught men after the Prophet's passing 《 by disguising her voice, as she kept a pen in her mouth so that her voice doesn't distract from the sermons》making her the first female scholar, and hence she was often called *Mother of the Pearl* (the uma)

I could be wrong, as Allah(SWT) knows best...

I think your approach and deliverance of this message was unguided. A man has no business using the name of Allah, and the explicit and graphic language you used to describe rather a sensitive topic.

This thread was an epic fail, may you be wise enough to learn in every opportunity. Amen.



You are missing the whole picture here.

The message is concisely about those who shame women who are virgins; that is, those who don't fornicate and commit adultery.
I hope you know you don't need any scholar to tell you these things are virtuous acts greatly emphasised in the Quran.

The message is about simply about discouraging the vice of fornication and adultery and promoting the virtues of chastity and bashfulness.

Read the post again to get the proper comprehension.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by sarahade(f): 10:06am On Mar 30, 2019
Khaleell001:


I know you are greatly pained that people are calling out your bad behaviour.

Must I have a vagina to say something is wrong?
You think we gave to be from. a particular gender to say something is bad?
I guess you know of the hadeeth where the prophet said that he saw most occupant of the fire as women.
Does it mean he was being mean to women?

Sometimes I see why some of you are always confused when something is said concerning your attitude.

It seems you are too dull to understand hence you resort to insult.

Are you a woman? No let us worry about our occupancy in hell.
Lol. Now i know you are sick and not ok. Pervert
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Nobody: 10:09am On Mar 30, 2019
Khaleell001:


You are missing the whole picture here.

The message is concisely about those who shame women who are virgins; that is, those who don't fornicate and commit adultery.
I hope you know you don't need any scholar to tell you these things are virtuous acts greatly emphasised in the Quran.

The message is about simply about discouraging the vice of fornication and adultery and promoting the virtues of chastity and bashfulness.

Read the post again to get the proper comprehension.


It's okay because you missed my whole message to you. Islam has etiquette and the language you use is out of character for a Muslim man! It's like you have no shame. I know my deen, you don't need to shout virgin, and you don't seem to understand how a Muslim should give Dawah!

Muslim men don't give Dawah to women about sex, sisters do that! Your thread is offensive to say the least.

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by najib632(m): 3:48pm On Mar 30, 2019
Guest007:


The sunnah wasn't that the Prophet(SAW) educated women, about sex, or even intimate hygiene, but instead He(SAW) taught Aisha(RA), who then taught the women... I'm sure He(SAW)was too shy, and that's where the blessings for aisha came along... Aisha(RA) was a scholar who taught men after the Prophet's passing 《 by disguising her voice, as she kept a pen in her mouth so that her voice doesn't distract from the sermons》making her the first female scholar, and hence she was often called *Mother of the Pearl* (the uma)

I could be wrong, as Allah(SWT) knows best...

I think your approach and deliverance of this message was unguided. A man has no business using the name of Allah, and the explicit and graphic language you used to describe rather a sensitive topic.

This thread was an epic fail, may you be wise enough to learn in every opportunity. Amen.


No by Allah the women of the Ansar may Allah be pleased with them used to ask him questions even mother Aisha narrated this aboth them:

The Mother of the Believers ‘Aishah (RA) praised the women of the Ansaar because they used to ask about their religious duties and did not let shyness stop them from doing that.

She said:

"What good women the womenfolk of the Ansaar were! They did not let shyness prevent them from seeking to Understand their religion.” (A Saheeh Hadeeth. It was narrated by Muslim (1/261), Abu Dawood (316), Ibn Maajah (642), via Ibraaheem ibn Al-Muhaajir, from Safiyyah bint Shaybah, from ‘A’ishah. A similar report is also narrated by Al-Bukhaari)

These words of’ Aishah are supported by the words of the Mother of the Believers Umm Salamah (RA) who said: Umm Sulaym came to the Messenger of Allaah (SAW) and said: "Allaah is not too shy to tell the truth. Does a woman have to do Ghusl if she has an erotic dream?” The Prophet (SAW) said:
“Yes, if she sees water.” (A Saheeh Hadeeth. lt was narrated by Al-Bukhaari (6/6), Muslim, (1/251), Al-Tirmidhi (122), Al-Nasaa’i (1/114) and Ibn Maajah (600) via ‘Urwah ihn Al-Zubayr from Zaynab bint Abi Salarriah, from Umm Salamah)

Please don't say what you don't know, if you misguide some you'll be held responsible for it on the day of Judgement. Be careful of your statements too you will be questioned about them on the day of Judgement. Always ask the scholars of the Orthodox creed what you don't know, don't be shy of your religion or the what the disbelievers will say, by Allah as long as your not wayward and insincere then Islam will always satisfy you.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Mar 30, 2019
najib632:
No by Allah the women of the Ansar may Allah be pleased with them used to ask him questions even mother Aisha narrated this aboth them:

The Mother of the Believers ‘Aishah (RA) praised the women of the Ansaar because they used to ask about their religious duties and did not let shyness stop them from doing that.

She said:

"What good women the womenfolk of the Ansaar were! They did not let shyness prevent them from seeking to Understand their religion.” (A Saheeh Hadeeth. It was narrated by Muslim (1/261), Abu Dawood (316), Ibn Maajah (642), via Ibraaheem ibn Al-Muhaajir, from Safiyyah bint Shaybah, from ‘A’ishah. A similar report is also narrated by Al-Bukhaari)

These words of’ Aishah are supported by the words of the Mother of the Believers Umm Salamah (RA) who said: Umm Sulaym came to the Messenger of Allaah (SAW) and said: "Allaah is not too shy to tell the truth. Does a woman have to do Ghusl if she has an erotic dream?” The Prophet (SAW) said:
“Yes, if she sees water.” (A Saheeh Hadeeth. lt was narrated by Al-Bukhaari (6/6), Muslim, (1/251), Al-Tirmidhi (122), Al-Nasaa’i (1/114) and Ibn Maajah (600) via ‘Urwah ihn Al-Zubayr from Zaynab bint Abi Salarriah, from Umm Salamah)

Please don't say what you don't know, if you misguide some you'll be held responsible for it on the day of Judgement. Be careful of your statements too you will be questioned about them on the day of Judgement. Always ask the scholars of the Orthodox creed what you don't know, don't be shy of your religion or the what the disbelievers will say, by Allah as long as your not wayward and insincere then Islam will always satisfy you.

Asking a question and giving DAWAH to the public is now the same thing. Allah knows best.

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by najib632(m): 8:52pm On Mar 30, 2019
Guest007:


Asking a question and giving DAWAH to the public is now the same thing. Allah knows best.
If the Sahaba didn't ask the questions regarding fiqh and narrated it how would we know it? If the Tabi'een didn't learn it and spread it how would we know it? Why do the scholars usually give a brief time to answer questions about anything even if they're matters of fiqh after delivering lectures? Sister Islam is not how you and I understand it, it's how Allah and his messenger S.A.W and his Sahaba and the pious predecessors understood it. We should not let laxity get the better of us, fear Allah and embark on a Jihad against yourself and seek knowledge. If you don't ask questions you will become misguided.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 10:27pm On Mar 30, 2019
sarahade:

Are you a woman? No let us worry about our occupancy in hell. Lol. Now i know you are sick and not ok. Pervert

Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 10:27pm On Mar 30, 2019
Guest007:


It's okay because you missed my whole message to you. Islam has etiquette and the language you use is out of character for a Muslim man! It's like you have no shame. I know my deen, you don't need to shout virgin, and you don't seem to understand how a Muslim should give Dawah!

Muslim men don't give Dawah to women about sex, sisters do that! Your thread is offensive to say the least.


Your problem!
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 10:27pm On Mar 30, 2019
sarahade:

Are you a woman? No let us worry about our occupancy in hell. Lol. Now i know you are sick and not ok. Pervert

Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Khaleell001(m): 10:30pm On Mar 30, 2019
sarahade:

Are you a woman? No let us worry about our occupancy in hell. Lol. Now i know you are sick and not ok. Pervert

Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Ssthorm(f): 8:31pm On Apr 02, 2019
Na wa oo
Whether a woman is a virgin or not,dsnt symbolize virtue. Of course being chaste is wat was ordained to us as muslims,it dsnt mean u should b condemned cuz u r not a virgin
Women get raped,defiled,abused n all sorts... some are frstly misguided n ignorant and live a sinful life,bt eventually repent n bcome a true symbol of a virtous woman. To say d least virginity doesnt reely mean u r a bettr woman. Evn a prostitute eventually won her self jannah cuz an act she did. Lets drop all dese rants.Being chaste is Excellent! bt virginity is not a sign of virtuousness,neither is losing it a shameful thing. Enuf about d female genitals!! Yu all shud go n marry d virgins u soo desire.

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by AryEmber(f): 6:15pm On Apr 21, 2019
Ssthorm:
Na wa oo
Whether a woman is a virgin or not,dsnt symbolize virtue. Of course being chaste is wat was ordained to us as muslims,it dsnt mean u should b condemned cuz u r not a virgin
Women get raped,defiled,abused n all sorts... some are frstly misguided n ignorant and live a sinful life,bt eventually repent n bcome a true symbol of a virtous woman. To say d least virginity doesnt reely mean u r a bettr woman. Evn a prostitute eventually won her self jannah cuz an act she did. Lets drop all dese rants.Being chaste is Excellent! bt virginity is not a sign of virtuousness,neither is losing it a shameful thing. Enuf about d female genitals!! Yu all shud go n marry d virgins u soo desire.
Losing it is not a shameful thing? I suppose you're referring to when the woman was raped?

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Ssthorm(f): 2:26pm On Apr 27, 2019
AryEmber:
Losing it is not a shameful thing? I suppose you're referring to when the woman was raped?

Wat i am saying is raped or losing it to a wayward lifestyle,if a woman has realised her wrongs or was unfortunately raped,she shudnt be shamed either ways,we r all sinners ,sin runs in our veins like blood,so if a woman has repented and is now leadn a good life,y shame her for her past sins?? A prostitute earned jannah out of Allah's mercies,so y condemn a woman n call her not virtuous u dat is even a co-sinner!!

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by AryEmber(f): 7:59pm On Apr 27, 2019
Ssthorm:


Wat i am saying is raped or losing it to a wayward lifestyle,if a woman has realised her wrongs or was unfortunately raped,she shudnt be shamed either ways,we r all sinners ,sin runs in our veins like blood,so if a woman has repented and is now leadn a good life,y shame her for her past sins?? A prostitute earned jannah out of Allah's mercies,so y condemn a woman n call her not virtuous u dat is even a co-sinner!!
You wrote and I quote, "virginity is not a sign of virtuousness, neither is losing a shameful thing." I agree with your new explanation but something is wrong with the above statement.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Ssthorm(f): 11:02am On Apr 28, 2019
AryEmber:
You wrote and I quote, "virginity is not a sign of virtuousness, neither is losing a shameful thing." I agree with your new explanation but something is wrong with the above statement.

No one is sin free.. n leave a womans virginity out of virtousness. Dts all m.sayn

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by AryEmber(f): 11:33am On Apr 28, 2019
Ssthorm:


No one is sin free.. n leave a womans virginity out of virtousness. Dts all m.sayn
Sorry but are a muslim?
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by Ssthorm(f): 11:01pm On Apr 28, 2019
AryEmber:
Sorry but are a muslim?

Lol... u see. Nvrmind.

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Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by AryEmber(f): 6:12pm On Apr 29, 2019
Ssthorm:

Lol... u see. Nvrmind.
Well, that explains it.
Re: Virginity: A Virtue Or Shame? by sinceraconcept(m): 5:26pm On Oct 04, 2019
AryEmber:
abi oo. I was just about to say the same. Take all that wealth away from her and we'd see how honored she is
Even with her wealth,shes not in anyway honored. Any time I see her, I see a wh.ore sucking Ray J's dick. How is that one even honored.

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