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Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 1:18pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
*"Privatised Saudi Arabia Aramco Declares $111bn Profits, NNPC Declares Loss Of $1.8b For 2018. Was Atiku Right or Wrong?"* "Only Fools Argue With Facts"! 8 Likes |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Saao(m): 1:20pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
That's the right thing to do. A serious government will privatize nnpc. 10 Likes |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 1:22pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Saudi Aramco is not privatized. It is 100% owned and operated by Saudi Government. How about you all read rather than sharing junk 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by MXrep: 1:24pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Only Backwards illiterate uninformed almajiri voted buhari 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by MXrep: 1:25pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra:Nnpc is recording loss. That's the main point 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 1:29pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
MXrep: That still doesn't make Saudi Aramco a private company. That's just fake news 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by uckennety(m): 1:34pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Buhari rigged himself into power 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 1:38pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra: Read below and be wise for once; Refining and chemicals While the company did not originally plan on refining oil, the Saudi government wished to have only one company dealing with oil production. Therefore, on 1 July 1993, the government issued a royal decree merging Saudi Aramco with Samarec, the country's oil refining company. The following year, a Saudi Aramco subsidiary acquired a 40% equity interest in Petron Corporation, the largest crude oil refiner and marketer in the Philippines. Since then, Saudi Aramco has taken on the responsibility of refining oil and distributing it in the country.[10] In 2008, Saudi Aramco sold its entire stake to the Ashmore Group, a London-listed investment group. Ashmore acquired an additional 11% when it made a required tender offer to other shareholders. By July 2008, Ashmore, through its SEA Refinery Holdings B.V., had a 50.57 percent of Petron's stock. Ashmore's payment was made on December 2008. In December 2008, Ashmore acquired PNOC's 40% stake. In the same month, San Miguel Corporation (SMC) said it was in the final stages of negotiations with the Ashmore Group to buy up to 50.1 percent of Petron. In 2010, SMC acquired majority control of Petron Corporation. Currently, Saudi Aramco's refining capacity is 5.4 million barrels per day (860,000 m3/d) (International joint and equity ventures: 2,500 Mbbl/d (400,000,000 m3/d), domestic joint ventures: 1,900 mpbd, and wholly owned domestic operations: 1,000 Mbbl/d (160,000,000 m3/d).)[41] Saudi Aramco's downstream operations are shifting emphasis to integrate refineries with petrochemical facilities. Their first venture into it is with Petro Rabigh, which is a joint venture with Sumitomo Chemical Co. that began in 2005 on the coast of the Red Sea.[10] List of refineries List of domestic refineries:[41] Jazan Refinery and terminal projects (JRTP) (4,00,000 bbl/d) (64,000 cubic meter/d) Jizan construction ongoing. Jeddah Refinery (78,000 bbl/d (12,400 m3/d)) Jeddah converted to product storage terminal in Nov. '17. Ras Tanura Refinery (550,000 bbl/d (87,000 m3/d)) (includes a Crude Distillation Unit, a Gas Condensate Unit, a hydrocracker, and catalytic reforming) Riyadh Refinery (126,000 bbl/d (20,000 m3/d)) Yanbu Refinery (245,000 bbl/d (39,000 m3/d)) List of domestic refining ventures:[41] The Saudi Aramco Mobil Refinery Co. Ltd. (SAMREF), Yanbu (400,000 bbl/d (64,000 m3/d)) The Saudi Aramco Shell Refinery Co. (SASREF), Jubail (300,000 bbl/d (48,000 m3/d)) Petro Rabigh, Rabigh (400,000 bbl/d (64,000 m3/d)) Saudi Aramco Base Oil Co. (Luberef) Saudi Aramco Total Refining and Petrochemical Co. (SATORP), Jubail[42] (400,000 bbl/d (64,000 m3/d)) Yanbu Aramco Sinopec Refinery (YASREF), Yanbu (400,000 bbl/d (64,000 m3/d)) List of international refining ventures:[43] Fujian Refining and Petrochemical Co. (FRPC), People's Republic of China Sinopec SenMei (Fujian) Petroleum Co. Ltd. (SSPC), People's Republic of China Motiva Enterprises LLC, United States 1,070,000 bbl/d (170,000 m3/d) Showa Shell, Japan 445,000 bbl/d (70,700 m3/d) S-Oil, Republic of Korea 669,000 bbl/d (106,400 m3/d) Saudi Refining Inc., United States[44] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by nzeobi(m): 1:39pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
since NNPC is not bearing good fruits, it should be unbundled and sold with proceeds from it invested in physical infrastructure. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by docadams: 1:42pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello: Saudi Arabia reportedly calls off Aramco IPO and disbands advisers https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/08/22/saudi-arabia-calls-off-aramco-ipo-and-disbands-advisers-reuters-reports.html Guess we now know the fool that argues with fact. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 1:43pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello: You are focusing on some downstream operations that has been spurn off and comparing it to the main company Saudi Aramco that just declared massive profits and still 100% government owned. Are you well at all? 4 Likes |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by MXrep: 1:43pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra:Someone has given details above. Even if you are right, does it matter since they are making profit? Does nnpc which record losses deserve privatisation or not? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by tuniski: 1:45pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Las las NNPC will be privatized. Atiku is a million percent right. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by tuniski: 1:48pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra:Aramco is 100% govt owned but, high tech in operation unlike the opaque NNPC. Perhaps let Aramco come and take over NNPC. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 1:48pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra: Perhaps your eyes were too holy to see this, let me bolden them for you; [b]While the company did not originally plan on refining oil, the Saudi government wished to have only one company dealing with oil production. Therefore, on 1 July 1993, the government issued a royal decree merging Saudi Aramco with Samarec, the country's oil refining company. The following year, a Saudi Aramco subsidiary acquired a 40% equity interest in Petron Corporation, the largest crude oil refiner and marketer in the Philippines. Since then, Saudi Aramco has taken on the responsibility of refining oil and distributing it in the country.[10] In 2008, Saudi Aramco sold its entire stake to the Ashmore Group, a London-listed investment group. Ashmore acquired an additional 11% when it made a required tender offer to other shareholders. By July 2008, Ashmore, through its SEA Refinery Holdings B.V., had a 50.57 percent of Petron's stock. Ashmore's payment was made on December 2008. In December 2008, Ashmore acquired PNOC's 40% stake. In the same month, San Miguel Corporation (SMC) said it was in the final stages of negotiations with the Ashmore Group to buy up to 50.1 percent of Petron. In 2010, SMC acquired majority control of Petron Corporation.[/b] If you are still stubborn to your view, kindly being up the link to support it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 1:53pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello: Don't be an idiot by posting the first link you see when you google "Saudi Aramco Ownership". Dig deeper or let someone else school you. No time to spoon feed today. Saudi Aramco is 100% government owned and controlled. You can take that to the bank 1 Like |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Lamasta(m): 1:56pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
NNPC and almost all government parastatals hardly bring profits no wonder no meaningful development in our nation... NNPC should be privatised gaskia 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 2:28pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra: Don't be a fool by trying to change the narratives which is the 100% fact that a government owned ARAMCO posted a profit of $111billion while your partly government owned NNPC posted a loss of $1.8 billion and for your information about 2 days ago the much anticipated 5% stake in ARAMCO (about $100 billion stake) is about to be privatised out of the $2 trillion worth entity. Don't change the narratives. ARAMCO is going private already |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 2:50pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello: If you had an iota of brain cells, you'll relate what the OP posted justifying Atiku's position of privatizing NNPC and using a completely 100% government owned Saudi Aramcos profits as proof that privitazation works. Isn't that a brain dead argument? But since you're probably oblivious to facts, all that we need is a well ran NNPC to turn a profit since Saudi Aramco can do it without resorting to privitazation. Didirin 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 2:55pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra: Applying your basic cognitive skills to good use would have presented to your sorry life that for the mere fact that profit is what ARAMCO is recording with the full involvement of the reasonable govt of Saudi Arabia in the runnings of it does not apply to a corrupt and useless govt of waste under an inept Buhari will afford NNPC the same measure of profits to the growth of Nigeria, so why not privatize it instead of repeating the same stupid mistakes that gives no tangible results over the years, unfortunately, as a Buharideen who hardly reasons with his cognitive skills, you must support evil and wastefulness in a childish prattling just to justify your APC centric spirit to the spirit of good governance. Use your brain. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 2:59pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello: You can go and bang your head on a rock for losing the elections. Still doesn't justify posting fake news calling Saudi Aramco a private company 1 Like |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 3:01pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra: At last he ran out of idea with so much shame not knowing how to justify the stupid and unnecessary loss of $1.8 billion happening under his Lord, Buhari. You may scram now boy......haters of a future that works for all! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by modath(f): 3:01pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Yes he was Yes he is.... Saudi is not Nigeria, we don't stone thieves, nor behead them... And stop faulty comparison in order to sell your expired klepto, GIVE IT A REST!!! His plans mainly to corner it for himself ... He has no common good potential in him.... His present treasonable path a clear indicator... Atiku is less of a problem, it's the people gassing him up... Crap!! 3 Likes |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 3:02pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello:English Motherf@cker! Do you speak it? |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 3:04pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
modath: Read and be free for once, stop seeing Atiku Atiku Atiku in your dreams or when matter of National discourse comes up, this is about our future, so I ask you now, Is NNPC living up to expectations under this government? Stay on topic please..... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 3:05pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
kayfra:As usual he is going rabid like a typical Buharideen always aggressive when out of ideas on simple political discourse. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by budaatum: 3:18pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello:Aramco has not been privatised! 1 Like |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by kayfra: 3:24pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello:I don't know what part of Saudi Aramco not privatized you don't get and why using it to justify Atiku's position is beyond stupid 3 Likes |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by Ratello: 4:08pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
budaatum:I have already explained my position up there. The issue is NNPC 's performance under Buhari is becoming abysmally low therefore privatising NNPC at such a time like this as advocated for by Atiku and like minds is key and germane to the survival of the government parastatal. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by budaatum: 4:17pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
Ratello:There is no reason to conclude that nnpc will be profitable from the argument you posed with Aramco. Some might point out that not privatising like Aramco should make nnpc profitable, but since they are both not privatised, and one makes profit while the other doesn't, then perhaps privatisation is irrelevant. Except, where Atiku is concerned, it is very relevant! Who would he sell it to if not his cronies, or has he not got form? What happened to all the other companies he privatised? Is there any reason privatised nnpc would not end up the same way? Or do you just not know Atikus's record regarding privatisation? Could anyone provide some please, if there's any. 2 Likes |
Re: Was Atiku Right Or Wrong On Privatising NNPC? by anonimi: 4:37pm On Apr 10, 2019 |
budaatum: How about the IEPCL engrobidigbo: Indorama Eleme Petrochemical Limited (IEPL), located in Port Harcourt, Rivers State, Nigeria, a Group Company of Indorama Corporation, is a Poly-Olefins producer of a range of Polyethylene and Polypropylene products. IEPL was a 100% subsidiary of Nigerian Government owned Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) with the name Eleme Petrochemicals Company Limited (EPCL). When the erstwhile EPCL was privatized, under the Privatization Program, the Indorama Group emerged as the core investor and acquired the Unit in August 2006. Since then, IEPL has recorded several achievements of smooth & stable operations, enhanced production capacities, winning of several global awards & certifications and has become a successful model of the Nigeria's Privatization Program. https://www.indoramaeleme.com/about-iepl.php Dr. Maikanti Kacalla Baru, Director President Muhammad Buhari appointed Dr. Maikanti Kachalla Baru as 17th Group Managing Director ("GMD" of Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation("NNPC". Until his appointment as GMD of NNPC on 4th July 2016 Dr. Baru was appointed Technical Advisor (Gas Matters) in March 2016 to the Minister of State for Petroleum Resources and until March 2016, he was Group Executive Director, Exploration and Production of the NNPC. Mr. Alex Okoh, Director Mr. Alex Okoh is the present Director General of the Bureau of Public Enterprises (BPE). Mr. Okoh, a Master’s Degree holder in Banking & Finance from the University of Ibadan and an alumnus of Harvard Business School, was the Managing Partner of Ashford & McGuire Consulting, before taking over as the DG of BPE in April 2017. Mr. Emmanuel Aguma (SAN), Director Mr. Emmanuel Aguma, SAN is a Rivers State lawyer. He is the current Attorney General and Commissioner of Justice in the state. Between 2000 and 2002 he worked as Secretary of the Nigerian Bar Association Port Harcourt Branch, and also chaired the Bar from 2006 to 2008. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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