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|The African Origin Of Adonai by jantavanta(m): 12:01pm On Sep 14, 2010|
'In Egyptian, "Adhon means Aten".'
"A young pharaoh comes to power in Egypt in 1379 B.C.E. and it will change the world and its effects are seen today the world over. Like his father he is called Amenhotep/Amenophis (IV) (Amenhotep='Amon is satisfied') in the beginning. Later on he changes his name to Akh-en-aten.
He tries to impose a new belief system on his Egyptian subjects, which is in contrast with the traditions and habits of thousands of years. This new belief system is an orthodox monotheism, the first example of its kind in history. Amenhotep's rule lasted 17 years (1379-1362 BC.). Following his death this new belief system meets its end abruptly, and anything and everything that belonged to this 'heretic' ruler is banned.
Unlike the previous Egyptian religious system, the religion imposed by Amenhotep IV, the Biblical Moses, was a fairly simple one, albeit radically different in character. In place of a pantheon of gods (neteru), God being separated into each of His attributes, characters, and features, each with separate functions and forms, they were all grouped under a single diety - to the exclusion and denial of all other dieties and attributes of this One God. Now, instead of God being thought about as different manifestations of the Divine He is understood as the "All in the One"; a Divine Unity of all that exists. This god was Aten or Aton, the Intelligent Life-giving Force or Energy of the Universe that was symbolized by the the disk of the sun (the physical example of the Cosmic Energy that exits behind all matter). Quite simply, Aten was the supreme God of all creation, responsible for all existing life regardless of place or culture. No longer would mankind be divided over this "understanding of God" or "that understanding of God"; now all mankind could come together under the One God of All. Mankind could finally be "one brotherhood".
Furthermore, besides the very obvious image of the sun, Atenism was basically a religion without any image for its God; it assigned no mythological visual representation to Aten. Aten was never represented in the form of either man or beast, simply the [i]impersonal [/i]disk of the sun."
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by jantavanta(m): 8:06am On Sep 16, 2010|
Moses the Royal Religious Revolutionary
Records indicate that at about 16 years of age, young[b] Akhenaten[/b] (Moses) appears in Thebes and becomes co-regent with his father (Amenhotep III, the Biblical Solomon). His mother Tiye, in order to secure his claim to the throne, has him marry his half-sister, Nefertiti, daughter of Sitamun. As co-regent with Amenhotep III the young Moses begins to snub the priests of Amon-Ra and the other gods, and further arouses their hostility by building temples to Aten. When the Amun priests objected to his appointment, Akhenaten responded by building temples to his new God, Aten. He built three temples for Aten one at the back end of the Karnak complex and the other at Luxor near the Nile bank and the third at Memphis. Akhenaten snubbed the Amun priests by not inviting them to any of the festivities in the early part of his co-regency and, in his fourth year when he celebrated his sed festival jubilee, he banned all deities but his own God (Aten) from the occasion. Twelve months later he made a further break with tradition by changing his name to Akhenaten in honour of his new deity. To the resentful Egyptian establishment Aten was seen as a challenger who would replace the powerful State god Amun and not come under his domination. In the tense climate that prevailed, Tiye arranged a compromise by persuading her son to leave Thebes and establish a new capital at Amarna in Middle Egypt, on the east bank of the Nile,
some two hundred miles to the north of Thebes. Reacting further to that hostility, he starts building his own capital at Tell el-Amarna.
The idea of "the Aten" was not in itself a new idea: as a relatively minor aspect of the sun god Re-Harakhte, the Aten had been venerated in the Old Kingdom and a large scarab of Akhenaten's grandfather Tuthmosis IV (now in the British Museum) has a text that mentions the Aten. Rather, Akhenaten's innovation was to worship the Aten in its own right. Portrayed as a solar disc whose protective rays terminated in hands holding the ankh hieroglyph for life, the Aten was accessible only to Akhenaten, thereby obviating the need for an intermediate priesthood.
Akhenaten, however, preferred Aten oven the Thebes Priesthood understanding of God as Amun. For Akhenaten Aten was the sun god that was worshipped in earlier times which was symbolic for the Uncreated Intelligent Energy that animates all things and which is the basis of all thing that exist, both visible and invisible, and whom we call "God" today. Because of this stance to oppose the Priesthood of Thebes and adopt a different understanding of God, like his father Amenhotep III who also had recognized the growing power of the priesthood of Amun and had sought to curb it; Akhenaten was to take the matter a lot further by introducing a new monotheistic cult of sun-worship that was incarnate in the sun's disc, the Aten. All the "neteroo" were to be grouped as "the Aten". With this new and reolutionary understanding of the Creator he would change his name from Amenhotep IV to Akhen-aten, meaning “He Who is of Service to Aten”. He also renamed his queen to Nefer-Nefru-Aten, which is “Beautiful is the Beauty of Aten." When his father dies, Moses is 27 years old and now becomes sole ruler and Pharaoh of all of Egypt and at the same time he changes his name from Amenhotep IV to Akhen-aten, and becomes more aggressive still, closing down the other temples and erasing the names of their gods (the neteroo)
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 7:42am On Jul 15, 2012|
Are you saying the real moses is diffrent as painted in the biblical account?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 12:29pm On Jul 15, 2012|
mkmyers45: Are you saying the real moses is diffrent as painted in the biblical account?
The clues are in the bibles.
His so-called miraculous birth by unanyimous parents, his rescue by an unnamed pharoah's daughter, his adoption as a prince in the royal house of Egypt(an imposibility), his exile from Egyptian royalty after killing an egyptian guard(another absurdity).
You can see that it sounds too much like a hastly made up fairy tale.
If you read genesis carefully, you would also notice that Moses never ever refered to Yahweh and the isrealites as his god and people respectively. Rather, when talking to Yahweh about the Isrealites, he would use the phrase "your people", [/b]and when talking to the Isrealites about yahweh, he would use the phrase [b]"Your god" . This clearly shows that he never considered himself to be an Isrealite.
Again, it strikes as strange that Moses was not allowed to lead the Isrealites into the promised land.I would guess beacause he was a foreigner who was forbiden to do so.
However, most shocking to me, even at a tender age, was the fact the sons of Moses were not automatic inheritors of the preisthood as would have been expected. After the death of Moses, all mention of his children and lineage completely dissapear in the bible.
So, you can say that the bible stole moses from his Egyptian heritage, mainly because the hebrews wanted to obfuscate the Egyptian origins of their religion and culture.
Good work Jantavanta
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Truth twisting now on a different level.
I will fully respond to this and debunk point by point , time permitting at some point today.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 12:37pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Please can you historically pin-point who moses was in Egyptian mythology?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by Nobody: 12:41pm On Jul 15, 2012|
jantavanta: 'In Egyptian, "Adhon means Aten".'
For starters , Moses was never Pharoh - Fact 1
Stop racing to the Internet to copy articles, verify them first.
I will be back to debunk the rest in their rightful historical and biblical context.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 12:52pm On Jul 15, 2012|
We are looking at Egyptian records here and not some event....
Egyptians keep record detail of everything.....So his biblical story (Moses) must be cross-checked with ancient Egyptian records which is what he did.....
Hint: They was a pharaoh that did drown in the nile
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by Nobody: 1:00pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Indeed, and this has been over flogged by renown historians and verified , validated and ratified as fact.
I have no time now , later in the evening or tomorrow will do some justice to the subject.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 1:30pm On Jul 15, 2012|
All clues point to Pharaoh Amenhotep 111, who later changed his name to Anhk-Aten and 17 yrs later was forced to abdicate his throne by the power army and preisthoods of Amen Ra. Thereafter, all records relating to Amenhoteb were erased from Egyptian records.
It is most likely that after many years in the sinai area, he came back to Egypt with his half brother Anhk[b]-Ara-On[/b] to reclaim his throne and family dynasty after his heir, Tutenkhamun(the famous boy king Tut) had been murdered (probably) in a palace coupe.
He was obviously unsuccessful and probably negotiated the release of the Hebrews as a condition of his acquiesence.
The greaful Isrealites saw him as their leader and called him the "Mosis" or the rightful king.
However, later on intheir history, the decided to obfuscate the egyptian origins of their reliion and culture by hiding the real identity of Moses and his lineage.
The fairy tale of the birth and rescue of moses in the river is borrowed from the legend of king Sargon the great, King of Akkad. pls google it.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 1:59pm On Jul 15, 2012|
It is seen as comparative mythology....anyway what happened to his blood-line?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by Nobody: 2:13pm On Jul 15, 2012|
jantavanta: 'In Egyptian, "Adhon means Aten".'
These links are Dud, please post links that work , thanks.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:22pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Akhenaten and Judeo-Christian monotheism
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:23pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Can you provide us more reliable source and write-up's?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 2:24pm On Jul 15, 2012|
No one is sure. The Hebrew scribes went to great lenghts to hide and completely erase it from their books.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:30pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Ok, Which Pharaoh did drown in the Nile?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 2:30pm On Jul 15, 2012|
There are tons of literature on this subject.
Notable among them is one written by Sigmud Freud, titled "Moses, King Of Egypt".
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by Nobody: 2:31pm On Jul 15, 2012|
It is getting worse, the original article stated Moses was a Pharaoh and your Wikipedia source says he was a Priest , which is it Sir
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:31pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Do you know any i can easily lay my hands on?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 2:35pm On Jul 15, 2012|
I have never heard that any of them did?
If you are referring the alleged miraculous crossing of the red sea, it never happened. If you read the bible and plot the movement of the Isrealites after they left Egypt, you will see that they never came remotely close to the red sea. They did cross a sea of reeds, a swampy marshland.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 2:42pm On Jul 15, 2012|
It seems you know very little about ancient Egyptian culture and politics. A Pharoah must of necessity be a high priest first, and warrior.
A pharaoh, like other high priests of egypt had to endure at least 20 yrs of training to properly align the left hemisphere of his brain to percieve non-physical realities.
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:42pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Wait for Jantavanta to come and explain ok?
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:42pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Yes, i know they couldn't have crossed the red sea...
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 15, 2012|
And this you heard from third hand sources , all conflicting with each other, you guys are hilarious, I wish you and your ilks all the best in your historical journey to nowhere
|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by plaetton: 2:49pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Here is an excerpt:
4…The Adopted Religion (Old Testament):
The Bible's creators were plagiarists and they got their knowledge from older races. The religion of the Masters -Egyptians and Babylonians- was transferred almost bodily into the re- vealed scriptures of the Hebrews and from there into Christianity. The source of the Biblical myths are Phoenician, Chaldean and mostly Indian, and the original of it may be found in the Mahâbhârata .Most of the Biblical myths borrowed from the Vedic-Brahman- ical literature, latter borrowed from the Chaldeans and Persians, shaped them into a history of the Hebrew nation, in which their spirit of philosophy was buried beyond the recognition. The first, second, third, fourth and fifth chapters of Genesis taken word for word from the secret Book of Numbers of the Great Oriental (Chaldean) Kabalah. Many texts of Old Canaanite mythology discovered at Ugarit. These texts not only constitute a liter- ature of high standing and great originality, but also have an important bearing on Old Testament studies. It is now evident that the patriarchal stories in the Old Testament were based on written documents of Canaanite origin.
There is no real history in the Old Testament, and the little historical information one can glean is only found in the indiscreet revelations of the prophets. The book as a whole, must have been written at various times, or rather invented as an authorization of some subsequent worship. Out of the 149 Biblical Psalms (the 14th is identical with the 53rd), 47 were copied from Yasna, the second part of the Persian Zend Avesta. Authors of the Bible were borrowed 15 more Psalms from Yasna, but they put their own ideas into them also. They composed 87 new Psalms. Pure Psalms which are borrowed from the Zend Avesta: the 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, and the 119th. The 104th Psalm is a prayer. It has written by Pharaoh Amenhotep (Akhenaton) to the Egyptian Sun-God Aton. The "Ecclesiastes" is an imitation of the Persian Holy Writ. "Song of Solomon" is very similar to the love poems of the Sumerian King Shu-sin, which are in the museum of Istanbul (Turkey) under the number 2461.
"The book of Job" was written by a Persian priest in dialogue and it is a narration of the moral pre- cepts of the Zend religion. The contents of the "Proverbs" reveals where it was written; the condi- tions of the state, social life and the country's climate lead us back to the Zend Avesta and Persia. The Psalms are poetry, but strip them of poetry and what is left? Flattery, selfishness, greed and cow- ardice. They are cry for help, a bargaining with God. This is not a "heroic faith"; it is spiritual deg- radation and ignorance.
#5…The New Testament:
The New Testament was of the same nature, age and race as the Old. We should therefore expect to find in it the same theology, methodology and formula. The New is not different from the Old. Moses is the Savior of the Old Testament, and such is Jesus of the New. The New Testament in many places a greatly altered version of the original accounts on which it is based. In addition, probably 5% of all that Jesus and his original followers taught is found in the Bible. In 125 AD. St. Irenaeus said, "There was a multitude of Gospels" in his day. Those that came down to us are but the ones the priesthood needed for its purpose, the rest is destroyed. Many of the changes and deletions to the New Testament were made by special church councils. The editing process began as early as 325 AD. (First Council of Nicea), and continued well into the 12th century. Many passages were originally written using code words whose meanings were lost over time, causing misinterpretations. In other instance there was just plain tampering to advance some then current dogma or political agenda. The Bible scholars agreed; that "One of the most important purposes of this tampering was to support the aims of those who sought to make Christianity more attractive to potential Hebrew/ Jewish converts by proving that the events of Jesus' life fulfill prophecy from the Old Testament". Mythic methodology used throughout the entire Bible.
# 6…The Temple of Jerusalem:
Contradictions of the Biblical narrator prove, that King Solomon did not build a Temple in Jerusalem. According to Kings 1 chapter 5:1-6, Solomon ask help and support from "Hiram, King of Tyre", to build a Temple. He agreed to support Solomon and in addition he sent him a brassmaker, whose name was "Hiram" too (7:13-14). However, the Chronicles 2 chapter 2:3,11 said, that "Huram, King of Tyre" and "Huram", the Brassmaker, so, the Chronicles 2 called them "Huram" instead of "Hiram". The Kings 1 chapter 5:13 stated: "and King Solomon raised a levy out of Israel; and the levy was 30,000 men". In chapter 5:15 the Biblical narrator raised this number, saying "the hewers in the mountains were 80,000 men" and those who "bare burdens were 70,000 men". In Chronicles 2. Chapter 2:17 said "Solomon numbered all the men and they were found 150,000"; therefore not 30,000 men……In Kings 1. chapter 5:16 mentioned 3,300 overseers, which is 3,600 in the Chronicles 2. chapter 2:18. From the perplexing descriptions we understand as much, that altogether 150,000 men cut down trees in the mountains and carried them to the construction side of the Temple. If anybody analyses this given numbers logically, would find out that these numbers are irrational. In Biblical times, in Palestine there could have not lived so many able-bodied men. For the construction of a 40'-0" x 120'-0" (12.19 meter x 36,50 meter) based temple it was not necessary to employ 150,000 workmen and the duration of 7 years. But those 150,000 could have cleared the jungle of Brazil, and could have built up a city which would have had more than several millions inhabitants. According to Kings 1. chapter 6:2,"the Temple height thereof 30 cubits" (45'-0" - 13.71 meter) and in chapter 7:15, "the 2-pillars of brass of 18 cubits high apiece" (27'-0" - 8.23 meter). However in the Chronicles 2. chapter 3:4, "and the height of the Temple was 120 cubits" (180'-0" - 54.86 meter), and in chapter 3:13, "the 2-pillars of 35 cubits high" (52'-6" - 16.00 meter).
#7…Ark of the Covenant:
The Hebrew Ark of the Covenant was an adaptation of the Egyptian Ark and bears a close resem- blance to the sacred Ark of the Egyptians, even to the kneeling figures upon its lid. The relief on the Temple of Philae shows Egyptian priests carrying their Ark upon their shoulders. The Tabernacle of the Hebrews was merely a temple patterned after the Temples of Egypt, and transportable to meet the needs of that roving disposition for which the Hebrews were famous. Every ancient race had its Ark. The Ark represents the Holy of Holies and it was one of the most im- portant symbols in the religious ceremonies of the ancients. The Covenants were not rare in the Near Eastern religions. Similar to Abraham's covenant the Hittite king Hattusilis III made such a cove- nant with Ishtar.
#8…Founders of Jerusalem:
Manetho the Egyptian priest says in his Sacred Books: "The nation called Hyksos (Shepherds) were Pâli shepherds of the Indus Valley, who emigrated from India and conquered Egypt. After 200 years of ruling they were driven out of Egypt. They journeyed through the wilderness and built a city in Judea, which they called Solyma" (Jerusalem). The founders of Solyma called their city of Scythian's holy Sólyom -gyrfalcon or the Solyma(sz)- falconer. Manetho called them Royal Shepherds. He also called them Royal Scythians and Phoenices. Marcus Julianus Justinus the Roman historian (3rd century AD.) states in his book (Historiae Philippiace et totius mundi origines et terrae situs) that the Phoenicians were Shepherds (Hyksos), who came from the east and settled down first near the north side of the Assyrian Lake, which is the Persian Gulf. Later migrated north west from this land and built a city on the shore of the Mediterranean Sea, which they called Túr. In 332 BC. Alexander the Great conquered this city and changed it's name to Tyre.
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|Re: The African Origin Of Adonai by mkmyers45(m): 2:51pm On Jul 15, 2012|
Hmmm...and there he goes running away....
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