Christmasdon:
Thankfully, nairaland can make a day without tacha.

damosky12:

This is error!
Fornication is having sex or lusting after someone you aren't married to.
Let's go to the Bible,

1 Corinthians 6:18-20
[18]Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

[19]What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
[20]For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

What then does he mean by fornication? Let's follow it up in the next verses (in chapter 7)...

1 Corinthians 7:1-2
[1]Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. [OUTSIDE MARRIAGE]
[2]Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. [MARRIAGE]

Any sex OUTSIDE MARRIAGE is Fornication.

BF, GF sexual relationship is not the Bible relationship for man and woman. It's satanic to think so. MARRIAGE is the only means.

To make it clearer.

1 Corinthians 7:9
[9]But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

He didn't say, "if they can not contain, let them date". No!!!

MARRIAGE is the only relationship recognized for sexual relationship.

Anything OUTSIDE is of the devil.

Who corrupted your mind.

Did you see "SUCH FORNICATION" there?

He is explaining the kind of fornication there...

See the AMPLIFIED version


It is actually reported [everywhere] that there is sexual immorality among you, a kind of immorality that is condemned even among the [unbelieving] Gentiles: that someone has [an intimate relationship with] his father's wife." — 1Cor 5:1

..is sex OUTSIDE MARRIAGE.

shadeyinka:

Sex and sexual activities outside the confines of marriage in any form including between bf and gf is fornication.

The bible recommend a solution to sexual pressures: Go Marry not get a gf or bf!

1 Cor 7:9: "But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."

fairfora:
Please quote the bible verse that supports your claim. Thanks

Hipsofagoddess:


What kind of devilish translation is this written with all boldness? Ignorance is truly a disease.

Kulas:


Please are you a child of God.Was shocked hearing you mention boyfriend/girlfriend.Is having boyfriend/girlfriend permitted biblically as a Child of God ?. I dont know what is going on in this generation that a child of God can bodly have boyfriend/girlfriend and claim its not a sin but a normal thing to do.Please repent if you are treading on this path and still claim child of God or born again.

kingmurainah:

How is that the truth?

jclassiq:


Do you sound sensible even to yourself?

paxonel:
in bible days, when a man approach a woman and she accept the relationship, marriage has started immediately.
bf and gf is not different from that unless the people involved in the bf and gf relationship are not talking the relationship seriously as marriage

paxonel:
where are your scripture to support this falsehood?

All I'm letting you is, it is possible to be faithful to a bf and gf relationship just like marriage

paxonel:
it isn't fornication when both of them involved are faithful to each other. Infact, at that point they are better than married people who are cheating on one another.

Now, contrary to what we think fornication is, that it means sex involving unmarried people. Here is the Bible's view of what fornication means.

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

So, fornication means a young man having sex with his father's wife or a young woman having sex with her mother's husband.

In general, it means sex with a close relation.

shadeyinka:

I wish you had stated a verse to prove that when a man approaches a woman and she accepts marriage has started... For this is completely untrue.

How do you relate with this scripture:
Matt 5:31-32:
"It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife girlfriend , let him give her a writing of divorcement: but I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife girlfriend, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery."

Do you think this scripture makes sense with respect to boyfriend/girlfriend relationship or marriage?

ZiriMane:


if you have a good command of simple English you wouldn't be saying this!
1 Corinthians 7:2
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

note: have a wife or a husband to avoid fornication

Galatians 5:19
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Ephesians 5:3
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;


Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

paxonel:
my guy, people marry in bible days without any wedding ceremony.
bf and gf is relationship without any wedding ceremony.

Therefore bf and gf = marriage in bible days.

Do you get that?

paxonel:
what do think my claim is?
Didn't you see the 1 Corinthians 5:1 I quoted?

fairfora:
You quoted out of ignorance, sorry. The bible verse itself is clear. Paul admonished them to refrain from fornication which the gentiles were known for, to the extent that they were having seex with their father's wife. Don't upturn the scripture ols

ZiriMane:


show me where you got this knowledge from.

Before then Read these scriptures and see God's view concerning marriage
Matthew 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Matthew 25:10
And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Luke 17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
Luke 20:34
And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
John 2:1
And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

paxonel:
show me scripture that defined fornication this way
this scripture did not define fornication now. No definition of it here
is this the definition of fornication?
why are you infusing MARRIAGE AND OUTSIDE MARRIAGE artificially in the scripture?

Please let the scripture take it national course.
If you look at the scriptures you quoted properly, obviously what Paul was trying to address was the issue of men sleeping with their father's wives going by the definition of fornication in 1 Corinthians 5:1(the only scripture that properly defined fornication as used in bible days)

1 Corinthians 7:1...Is it good for a man to touch a woman?(women including fathers wives as sleeping with fathers wife was very common among men in those days) .
1 Corinthians 7:2 therefore resolve that to avoid sleeping with your father's wife, let every man have their own wives.

I think this is not hard to understand now
you are yet to bring one scripture to support this faulty stand

and I'm telling you that the moment a man sees a woman and she agree to unite with him, marriage has started already, no further formalities. This is how marriage was in bible days.
bf and gf relationship is not different from this unless the couple involved are not taking the bf and gf relationship seriously as marriage.

read king James or see the screen shot marked with blue touch below
the sexual immorality(fornication in KJV) is simply sex with father's wife and nothing more
this do not in anyway reflect in the 1 cor 5:1, I don't know where you are getting it from.

paxonel:
Look at this

1 Samuel 25:40 And when the servants of David were come to Abigail to Carmel, they spake unto her, saying, David sent us unto thee, to take thee to him to wife.
1 Samuel 25:42 And Abigail hasted, and arose, and rode upon an ass, with five damsels of hers that went after her; and she went after the messengers of David, and [b]became his wife .[/b]
no marriage

Did you see that?
This is just one example.

If I should start mentioning the cases of Isaac and Rebecca, Solomon and Queen of Sheba, Abraham and Sarah, Joseph and Mary(the mother of Jesus), there will be no space to put all these scriptures here.
you shouldn't have problem with the word boyfriend or girlfriend they are married people so long they are into a committed relationship.(except they are not committed to the relationship that's where the problem comes)

paxonel:

Matthew 5:32 ..whosoever that put away his wife saving for the course of her having sex with her mother's husband or a relation(incest). (apply the definition of fornication in 1 Corinthians 5:1 here, you will understand what the scripture is driving at. There is so much sense in it, far better than applying unmarried people having sex )
there was nothing like boyfriend or girlfriend in bible days, but people were having sex the moment they are up to the age, perhaps 18 years and above.
boyfriend and girlfriend are just recent words used to describe friendship of the opposite sex which is still the same thing people do in bible days

paxonel:
it isn't fornication when both of them involved are faithful to each other. Infact, at that point they are better than married people who are cheating on one another.

Now, contrary to what we think fornication is, that it means sex involving unmarried people. Here is the Bible's view of what fornication means.

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

So, fornication means a young man having sex with his father's wife or a young woman having sex with her mother's husband.

In general, it means sex with a close relation.

paxonel:
it isn't fornication when both of them involved are faithful to each other. Infact, at that point they are better than married people who are cheating on one another.

Now, contrary to what we think fornication is, that it means sex involving unmarried people. Here is the Bible's view of what fornication means.

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

So, fornication means a young man having sex with his father's wife or a young woman having sex with her mother's husband.

In general, it means sex with a close relation.

BabaIbo:
Hmmm...
Are you saying smooching or having romance without sex with your gf/lady is fornication?

GeoAfrikana:
People make it sound like fornication starts in one day.

No it doesn't, it starts from a smile, a 'hi', then a greeting and then...then...then...till you...

So, the only cure for fornication, if you really want to avoid it, is to get married or avoid the opposite sex.

Thank me later.

paxonel:
what do you mean by to the extent?

fairfora:
Bible is interpreted in different versions and I quote 1chorinthians 5:1 in a new international version which reads thus: " It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife"

Here, paùl was admonishing his people to stop sexual immorality and a kind that a pagan (i.e. those who do not believe there's God ) do not even tolerate...(which is) "a man sleeping with his father's wife"

If you do not still understand that...then you need to ask God for knowledge.

KingWarri:


Na waoooh
Nothing we no go see...

See as dis one they turn bible upside down to justify e own stupid opinion -:\

bereto:


This is a wrong teaching and from the depths of hell
How do you measure their faithfulness if they've not openly declared it before God and man and even after that some are still not faithful.

shadeyinka:

Because you wish to justify iniquity, you present scriptures where there was silence as per wedding ceremony.

No problem! I am willing to use the same rule with you.

In the two cases raised, the request for question was "marry me!".
Not let's be having sex until we get married!
Not let's be friends!

What is marriage?
Marriage is a Spiritual, Cultural and Legal union between a man and a woman for the purpose of living together as Husband and Wife.

Any union that doesn't fulfill ALL this isn't marriage. I believe you know that marriage can occur without the church, the mosque or even the court of law.

Let me explain:
Spiritual : even when a man sleeps with a harlot, he becomes one(spiritually) with the harlot.

This alone doesn't constitute marriage

Cultural: When the cultural requirements are fulfilled (and their society recognise them as man and wife)
Legal: It henceforth becomes an offence for any other man or woman to violate the sexual intimacy between them.

If you can show me either from the scriptures or otherwise where a couple is married and the three cardinal pivot are not present.