PaChukwudi44:

They will go to court and lose as usual.Void votes do noy count in elections.

BTW emotions has no place in law

I wont forget your ignorance in a bit. Last time, i called you out after you argued upandan about the CJN and you fell flat. Now you are still arguing blindly as usual.

Unfortunately, it is you who is using emotions.

The question is "Did PDP secure 25% of the valid votes cast in 2/3 of the LGA?

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adanny01:


I wont forget your ignorance in a bit. Last time, i called you out after you argued upandan about the CJN and you fell flat. Now you are still arguing blindly as usual.

Unfortunately, it is you who is using emotions.

You are the one arguing blindly.I said the CJN can only be removed by the NJC and that was exactly what happened.

The PDP candidate will be issued certificate of return on monday.Suck on that

ericsmith:




Don't rack your brain further , i bet you will agree with % are yardsticks over 100.
according to the inec spreadsheet if apc had 58% are you emphatically saying apc won on a % of 58/98.
assuming those rejected voted went to another party say NRC party will you talk like these,
if i had not pass to school i wonnt even know that whatever % a student score is bases on over 100%, even when ur lecturer give test saying 30% ..you alreary know on the long run its gonna be on 100%

Stop confusing yourself.

Invalid votes is invalid and does not count on total valid votes which is used in calculating the actual winning percentage.

Get a life

Pele you will dey alright las las

PaChukwudi44:

There is nothing like indirectly.Stop speaking rubbish.Only valid votes will be taken into account in declaring a winner

I am bookmarking this statement, since you are beyond redemption. You will be ashamed of yourself soon.

For starters, keep this one in memory

adanny01:


There are counted as spread which is indirectly. Are you still arguing that?

Counted valid votes will be used.


Wasted.

Invalid votes

Is gone down the history lane


Pele

garfield1:

Guy,you are bringing a new dimension into this.apc has intelligent personalities.the question we should look at is whether the constitution is referring to total valid votes cast or total votes cast.let me look at the constitution again

Modified:i just checked,the constitution talks about total votes cast not valid votes.the constitution recpgnises only casted votes.valid and invalid votes are creation of inec.therefore,the former apc votes will be part of total votes cast but not valid votes

Supreme Court has voided those votes oga, so is no longer valid.

adanny01:


Walahi, the comments on this thread shows how the Nigerian educational system has failed.

Those APC votes are votes of Nigerians which is their right. No court can take it from them. Those votes were taken away from APC and placed in an invalid box but they count among the total votes cast. These guys cannot use common sense.

When INEC comes with the official position, they will start shouting INEC is biased. Me i tire for the educated illiterates on Nairaland.

You lack common sense ,you should ask your self if APC was suppose to be in the ballot paper.

Which means it's a wasted vote,they should have done exactly what Ameachi wanted to do in rivers but they were too dump to do so .

FROM MATHEMATICS POINT OF CALCULATION, THE TOTAL VOTE CASTED FOR APC SHOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THE TOTAL VOTE. HENCE, IT BECOMES 810,782 - 534,541= 276,241. THE 1/4 OF THE TOTAL VOTE CASTED WILL NOW BE 276,241/4= 69,060.25
IN CONCLUSION, PDP MEETS THE CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

OGHENAOGIE:
mad people in Nigeria...trying to come thru d back door like amaechi wanted using AAC...una go de alright

Oga,pdp did not meet the requirement.you cannot cancel the votes of over 500,000 people who voted legitimately.globally,disenfranchisement is a serious offence

GALAXY2012:
FROM MATHEMATICS POINT OF CALCULATION, THE TOTAL VOTE CASTED FOR APC SHOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THE TOTAL VOTE. HENCE, IT BECOMES 810,782 - 534,541= 276,241. THE 1/4 OF THE TOTAL VOTE CASTED WILL NOW BE 276,241/4= 69,060.25
IN CONCLUSION, PDP MEETS THE CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

You cannot deduct votes.the electoral act has made sure of that.you can only take it away from but not destroy or nullified.

udemzyudex:


You lack common sense ,you should ask your self if APC was suppose to be in the ballot paper.

Which means it's a wasted vote,they should have done exactly what Ameachi wanted to do in rivers but they were too dump to do so .

A court ruling originally allowed them to be on the ballot.again,the issue here is mainly about apc and her internal problems,it is a pre election issue therefore all votes cast on that election day exists but apc doesn't exist on the election day.500,000 votes scored by apc stands invalidated but part of total votes cast...

Osagyefo98:



Supreme Court has voided those votes oga, so is no longer valid.

This is not igbotic issue so dont interfere.but however,voided or invalid votes are usually counted by inec as part of total votes cast.check inec spreadsheet before you argue.again,the constitutiin in section 179 talks of total votes cast which includes all valid,rejected votes.500k people wrongly voted for apc which were not on the ballot.the key word is that they voted.the votes cant be tampered with because the case was pre electiin case not an election petition case

garfield1:

Oga,pdp did not meet the requirement.you cannot cancel the votes of over 500,000 people who voted legitimately.globally,disenfranchisement is a serious offence

d supreme court has ruled dat dos votes are invalid d second winner ll take over Apc shd wait till 2023...

adanny01:


No one doubts that.

But i believe if the rerun should take place today, PDP will lose. You never underestimate the power of the voters. Any party can be mobilized to win elections if given time, resources and credibility.

Personally, i feel the that in the end Justice was done however at the expense of true democracy where majority carries the day. Just like Kogi where Kogites are disappointed in their accidental governor, Zamfarans would also sit and look how their mandate was taken by rule of law.

Funny enough, i am sure before 2023, the new PDP governor would have gone back to APC to solidify his chances.

continue dreamin...Apc sponsor my ass...

garfield1:

This is not igbotic issue so dont interfere.but however,voided or invalid votes are usually counted by inec as part of total votes cast.check inec spreadsheet before you argue.again,the constitutiin in section 179 talks of total votes cast which includes all valid,rejected votes.500k people wrongly voted for apc which were not on the ballot.the key word is that they voted.the votes cant be tampered with because the case was pre electiin case not an election petition case

APC votes is a waste , maybe na Calabar issue...abi..

Is wasted and as such not valid in anyway.

OGHENAOGIE:
d supreme court has ruled dat dos votes are invalid d second winner ll take over Apc shd wait till 2023...

Guy,behave mature and stop being politically hypocritical.why pretend to be neutral when you are a closet pdp supporter? Its disgusting.stop that and come out fully like a real man.
The supreme court is wise.it said the runner up will be sworn in if it fulfills the constitutional requirement bordering on spread.this case is a pre election case involving apc alone,votes that were cast on election day is a part of an election petition case.only a tribunal can fully talk about votes cast during an election firstly before ending at the apex court.
Those votes cast for apc have been taken away from apc but it is not nullified.the grounds for nullifying votes are clearly slept out in the electoral act and this was not what was brought before the court.the for apc votes are now rejected votes and part of total votes cast.section 179 of the constitution talks about votes cast not valid or invalid votes.

ihatesycophant:
You're olodo, was it the APC that voted or the people of Zamfara. The votes cast by people of Zamfara for APC cannot be cancelled from the main votes by your analogy, their votes still part of vote cast but does not benefit APC.
Think like someone that passed through school.

Those who actually passed through school and honestly earned their grades remain civil in their engagements. They don't start throwing insults even when they disagree with an opinion. For your information:

mushystuff:

These votes stand as though they were never cast because APC had no candidates in the eyes of the law. Those trashed votes will not now become numbers to reckon with for any reason. By this judgement they do not exist, they are wasted and not voided by reason of mutilation or disenfranchisement.
Therefore the contitutional spread will now be based in existing valid votes to the exclusion of all others.

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Is it because of political party that people did not reason deeply again? All this politicians did not care about we citizen.



The true of the matter is that merely looking at it, Zamfara guber election will be inconclusive, they will have rerun without APC name on the ballot paper.

I agree with you. The court said total votes cast. The problem with pdp is they always want to get to power through the back door. They are not even ashamed that they are trying to rule Zamfara with this kind of mandate. Why are they afraid of new election?

garfield1:

This is not igbotic issue so dont interfere.but however,voided or invalid votes are usually counted by inec as part of total votes cast.check inec spreadsheet before you argue.again,the constitutiin in section 179 talks of total votes cast which includes all valid,rejected votes.500k people wrongly voted for apc which were not on the ballot.the key word is that they voted.the votes cant be tampered with because the case was pre electiin case not an election petition case

Hmmm. Can some body check if inec includes both valid and invalid votes as total number of votes cast?

Osagyefo98:



APC votes is a waste , maybe na Calabar issue...abi..

Is wasted and as such not valid in anyway.

Invalid votes count as part of total votes cast,your too blinded by tribalism to know this anyway.
Vthe issue before the supreme court is what happened at apc primaries not what happened during the elections.what happened during the polls are within the jilurisdiction of a tribunal not the supreme court.please be guided.that something is a waste doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.wasted votes are same as thumbprinting for three parties on a ballot.it is invalid but will be recorded

tinsel:

Hmmm. Can some body check if inec includes both valid and invalid votes as total number of votes cast?

Yes they do.someone even posted s spreadsheet in this thread about that.any ballot paper that was thumbpronted automatically becomes a vote cast.if you have participated in elections,you will know all this.

garfield1:

A court ruling originally allowed them to be on the ballot.again,the issue here is mainly about apc and her internal problems,it is a pre election issue therefore all votes cast on that election day exists but apc doesn't exist on the election day.500,000 votes scored by apc stands invalidated but part of total votes cast...

What is the supreme court ruling on this case?

udemzyudex:


What is the supreme court ruling on this case?

Swear in the runner up if he meets the requirements or two third spread.that requirement is now inec job to interpret.the case is a pre election matter,votes cast on election are election petition matter and only a tribunal has original jurisdiction.the party to the case were apc not voters.it is just like money seized From looters.it is no longer theirs as it never was originally but the money is now part of total fg money,it still exists

garfield1:

Swear in the runner up if he meets the requirements or two third spread.that requirement is now inec job to interpret.the case is a pre election matter,votes cast on election are election petition matter and only a tribunal has original jurisdiction.the party to the case were apc not voters

Only a tribunal has original jurisdiction? If this is so,why did Osun APC went to court of appeal? And why is Osun PDP going to the supreme court?

You said the 2/3 spread is now the job of INEC to interpret,when you take away all APC vote ,you will have PDP and other parties that contested.

The question is did PDP vote meet the 2/3 requirements?

mushystuff:
The court first declared all votes allotted to the APC as wasted, rubbish and void. So subtract those then come back with the actual, judicially recognised votes and your question again.

Spot on.

dizon:
All votes cast for APC automatically become invalid votes so u have to subtract them from the number of valid votes

If those votes are invalid then the margin of void votes is greater than counted votes, technically what played out in Osun should also play out here unless there is a different rule for Osun State

This is really analytical and it does gladden my heart to know that APC has shot itself in the leg and paved way for PDP's resurrection.

dizon:
All votes cast for APC automatically become invalid votes so u have to subtract them from the number of valid votes

OGHENAOGIE:
d supreme court has ruled dat dos votes are invalid d second winner ll take over Apc shd wait till 2023...

OK,agreed that they are invalid or voided.

And now that the total invalid votes in the election is higher than the difference between the PDP candidate and the nearest candidate, is that not a ground for re run?

udemzyudex:


Only a tribunal has original jurisdiction? If this is so,why did Osun APC went to court of appeal? And why is Osun PDP going to the supreme court?

You said the 2/3 spread is now the job of INEC to interpret,when you take away all APC vote ,you will have PDP and other parties that contested.

The question is did PDP vote meet the 2/3 requirements?

You are not getting me.in an election petition case,it starts from a tribunal not a high court or appellate court.you must start from tribunal and end up at the supreme court.you just cant go to higher court except you are appealing like apc in osun did.that was after the tribunal ruled against them.
You can only take away the votes of apc from apc which the course did,you can also say those votes are not valid but you cannot nullify this votes.that is not a pre election matter.those votes are legitimate.they fulfilled all voting requirements under the electoral act.those votes are same as thumbprinting for two or more parties.it will count for no party but will still count in the net total