IMAliyu:

Through ijtihad Yes, but not in the way you want.
Why are you even asking this, i was talking about something different here.

tintingz:
I'm talking about the Sharia laws that are derived from the Quran and Hadiths.

I asked because I want to know if Islamic practice can be updated regarding your premise.

IMAliyu:

Islamic practice like salat (obligatory spiritual practices)?
My answer is No, but minor valid various can exists in the understanding of how to carry these out e.g. the difference in how Maliki, hanafi or even shia pray.
Or are you talking about things like alcohol prohibition (a universal Islamic rule)?
My answer is maybe, because being in a conditions that necessitates it can temporarily void the rule e.g. The use of intoxicants for medical sedation of patients in hospitals or something like that. The benefits and drawbacks are weighed against each other and a new ruling could be brought about that is still in accordance to the understanding/interpretation of the Quran and/or hadiths.
Or are you talking about ambiguous subjects with no Quranic and hadith ruling on it (like the use of modern technology)?
This is just a neutral zone with which using simple reasoning and common sense can help. Unfortunately common sense isn't that common though so some clerics choose to create rulings on these as well.
I hope this helps answer your question.
Edit: I'm not sure if this is relevant, but i would like to throw in another class of rules
Some rulings could be considered obsolete because those conditions or environment no longer exist. I'm talking about things like the ruling on slaves, owning a slave, being a slave... Because slavery is no longer a thing (or at least i hope so). And the ruling on "killing infidels" the verses of the Quran that talk about that are considered to be limited to the time period when the prophet(saw) and his followers where at war with the people of makka and not to be taken literally (like the likes of ISIS and BH).

tintingz:


Ok, do you believe the Quran is not absolute morality?

IMAliyu:

This is a trap Question.
My response is. I believe the Quran is a source and guide of morality in addition to the inbuilt moral compass everyone is created with.

We are kind of derailing this thread. I'm patiently waiting for username to finish presenting his argument.

tintingz:


The barbaric practice and beliefs in the Qur'an and Hadiths are corrupting the souls of majority Muslims.

tintingz:
Can Sharia law be updated?

budaatum:

Yes. Sharia was written by human beings so we can take eraser to it and rub it off and write another on top if we want or just rip the page up or both.

There is Sharia that says we should whip 100 lashes of cane for some crimes. We don't anymore. We just rubbed it off and tore up the paper it was written on.

tintingz:
Lol, not in the Muslim world. You can't erase laws in the Qur'an and Hadiths or your head will be rolling on the floor.

Go to Saudi Arabia and tell them that.

budaatum:
Why should I go to Saudi Arabia? Are there no Muslims in Nigeria? Let us remain in Nigeria first please!

Is it not true in Nigeria tingz, that we have used eraser to rub off 100 cane Sharia and ripped up the paper it was written on?

usermane:
A valid Muslim argument is that sharia does not mandate or recommend consanguineous marriages, it only permit it. This is true, but consanguineous marriage need to be discouraged, and anything permitted under sharia cannot be discouraged.

This is why in parts of the Muslim world, this kind of marriage remain common and preferable to marrying outside the family, despite scientifically proven risks.

usermane:
6. First cousin marriages Legal:

Qur'an 4:23
This verse specifies the categories of female relatives PROHIBITED for married to Muslim men. There is NO MENTION of direct or first cousins. First cousins are blood relatives. Strangely enough the verse prohibits marriage to foster brother or sister despite these not being blood relatives.

Qur'an 33:50
The prophet is permitted to marry female cousins in this verse.

Muhammad reportedly married off his daughter Fatimah, to her cousin Ali. Muhammad is reported to have married his cousin, Zainab bint Jash. Numerous companions of Muhammad are reported to have married their first cousins.

tintingz:
I read Khadija the first wife of Muhammad is somehow related to Muhammad. Any take on that?

And his children died of mysterious illness.

usermane:


Oh, I haven't found any info relating blood ties between Khadija and Muhammad.

I learnt about his children's death long ago. Quite striking. I don't know how common it was for parents to lose so much of their kids to illnesses or natural death at that time.

tintingz:
I read Khadija the first wife of Muhammad is somehow related to Muhammad. Any take on that?

And his children died of mysterious illness.

tintingz:
It is here

I guess there were no records of what actually killed Muhammad children.

lanrexlan:


Why are two bold statements seem to be in contradiction? You claimed the Prophet's kids died mysteriously in the first sentence. Then, you turned around and said "There were no records of what actually killed the Prophet's children".

The question is, if there were no sources that claimed to explain the deaths of the beloved kids of the Nabi, how did you come to the conclusion of your first statement of "They died mysterious deaths? " Boda Taiwo

tintingz:
SMH.

It's said they died of illness or so, but the cause or nature of death are not recorded probably due to ignorance at that time or no investigations were done or it's common at that time or it was kept secret. Whatever it's they died mysteriously, the fact that I used "mysterious" and "actually" you should grasp the context of what I'm saying.

Kindly connect the context of my posts, you don't have to sound ridiculous.

lanrexlan:
Illness itself sometimes is a pointer and cause of death. You said they died due to illness and yet said the cause of death is not known! Is illness not a cause of death?! You should have said the cause of illness wasn't known. That's acceptable, instead of taking it personal.

Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Funerals:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Hurry up with the dead body for if it was righteous, you are forwarding it to welfare; and if it was otherwise, then you are putting off an evil thing down your necks."

Sunan Abu Dawud>>Book of General Behavior:


The Prophet (May peace be upon him) cursed effeminate men (mukhannathan) and women who imitated men, saying: Put them out of your houses, and put so-and-so out.

Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Adornment:


"Five things are of the Fitrah: Clipping the nails, trimming the mustache, plucking the armpit hairs, shaving the pubes, and circumcision."

Musnad Ibn Hanbal 5:75:


Abu al- Malih ibn `Usama's father relates that the Prophet said: "Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women."

Rashduct4luv:
This post is becoming a preposterous thread from an atheist. You started from being a Quranist and now moving on to fully fledged atheist.

Any thread you see "Boda Taiwo" feature and yet doesn't critcise the OP is (most likely) an atheist thread.

Corpse shouldn't be buried quickly, pack all of them to your house for practicals!

Sahih al-Bukhari » Book of Medicine:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "If you hear of an outbreak of plague in a land, do not enter it; but if the plague breaks out in a place while you are in it, do not leave that place."