Muslims want us to believe Islam is a religion of peace, which is contrary to the reality. They also tell us the wars Muhammad fought were only for self-defence. This too is a blatant lie. The truth is that Islam was spread by force, if Islamic sources are anything to go by. A religion spread by force cannot be from the true God, who gave man free will.

Quran (8:39) And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" 

Allah's instruction to Muhammad there was to fight the people till they accept Islam. How is that self-defence? Or how is that a religion founded on peace.

In line with the above verse, Muhammad himself said:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally." Sahih Bukhari (8:387) -

What else does anyone who is sincere to himself/herself need to know that Islam is a religion of violence? Does that statement from Muhammad show he was being attacked and defending himself?


Sahih Muslim 4346
The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war) and stay therein, you have a share (that will be in the form of an award) in (the properties obtained from) it. If a township disobeys Allah and His Messenger (and actually fights against the Muslims) one-fifth of the booty seized therefrom is for Allah and His Apostle and the rest is for you.

....If you come to a township (which has surrendered without a formal war)...That connotes Muhammad was entering cities and forcing them to surrender or face a war. Even after surrendering, they forced them to have a share in their properties. How can any reasonable person claim he was fighting in self-defence or claim Islam is a religion of peace?

Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.” So the men accepted Islam as they were invited. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959)

No normal person can claim that mission was for a self-defence.

When the apostle raided a people he waited until the morning. If he heard a call to prayer he held back; if he did not hear it he attacked. We came to Khaybar by night, and the apostle passed the night there; and when morning came he did not hear the call to prayer, so he rode and we rode with him. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 757)

When Muhammad noticed there was not Islamic call to prayer in a place, he would attack them. How was that peaceful or a self-defence?

The case hereunder is very clear:

Allah's Messenger called Ali [and said]: “Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory,” and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: “Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?” Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: ”Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger …” (Sahih Muslim
5917 )

Muhammad told Ali the reason he was to fight and that was for the people to accept Islam.

Allah said Muhammad should fight the Jews and the Christians because of their unbelif in Islam.
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." 

As you can see, the only reason the Jews and Christians should be fought was because they didn't believe in Muhammad's Allah. Who is the God of Islam that had waisted and still waisting innocent people's lives?

All these religions thrive on the blood of humans...
#MoreReligionMoreEvil

Asalamu aleykum




Btw,thunda Faya all Coneheads. Ameen

Thunda scatter Buhari Masha Allah,Ameen

GMbuharii:
Asalamu aleykum



Btw,thunda Faya all Coneheads. Ameen
Thunda scatter Buhari Masha Allah,Ameen

Why will thunder faya anyone?

Shepherd00:
Why will thunder faya anyone?

Hmmm !!!

Islam is actually the best.

Who wouldn't want this

sukerefakere:
Islam is actually the best.
Who wouldn't want this

Hmmm !!!
The best indeed.
The best for those who hate the truth.
The best for anyone who wants his soul to roast in hell.

Shepherd00:

Why will thunder faya anyone?

Nna thunda no dey Faya person o

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."

Who was speaking there, Allah or Muhammad?

Would Allah call himself "Allah"?

But they told us all the words of the Quran were spoken by Allah.

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Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.

Is that good neighbourliness?

Fighting people for no just cause. Must everybody become a Muslim? It is the Devil that drags people to his side by force.

See the religion of peace:

Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before you lose your head" - (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 814, Ibn Kathir v.3 p.392).

How does that look like Muslims defending themselves?

What are ISIL, Book Haram and other islamic terrorists doing differently?

I wonder why you created the thread, why can't you focus on what you believe in and just leave Islam for the Muslims, you can't gain the love of someone showing hatred to other people.

You can't find devoted muslims in southern nigeria. If you want to see real muslims, go to the north and Arab countries. They believe the Quran passionately without spiritual reasoning, no wonder they are always ready to shed blood for their religion.

Well, only God will judge at the end.

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Tajbol4splend:
I wonder why you created the thread, why can't you focus on what you believe in and just leave Islam for the Muslims, you can't gain the love of someone showing hatred to other people.

No ooo!!!

It is not a matter of showing hatred. A number of them do not know how Islam was founded. They sincerely but ignorantly believe Islam is a religion from God. Besides, those quotations are from their religion, it would have amounted to hatred if I fabricate lies against Islam.

If they are made to understand that Islam is a violent religion from their own books, and yet they still claim it is a religion of peace, it means they are deceiving themselves. They are saying Islam is a religion of peace because they know that it is Godly to be peaceful, but is it still Godly after knowing it was established with violence?

Which one will pay them better: showing them the truth or leaving them to perish?

Those of them reading my threads, though some hate them, but on the Day of Judgement, they will not have excuse of ignorance. The Bible says if a watchman sees danger coming but refuses to blow the trumpet, the people will die but their blood will be required from the watchman.

cleanvessel:


No ooo!!!

It is not a matter of showing hatred. A number of them do not know how Islam was founded. They sincerely but ignorantly believe Islam is a religion from God. Besides, those quotations are from their religion, it would have amounted to hatred if I fabricate lies against Islam.

If they are made to understand that Islam is a violent religion from their own books, and yet they still claim it is a religion of peace, it means they are deceiving themselves. They are saying Islam is a religion of peace because they know that it is Godly to be peaceful, but is it still Godly after knowing it was established with violence?

Which one will pay them better: showing them the truth or leaving them to perish?

Those of them reading my threads, though some hate them, but on the Day of Judgement, they will not have excuse of ignorance. The Bible says if a watchman sees danger coming but refuses to blow the trumpet, the people will die but their blood will be required from the watchman.

So who interpreted those verses to you? You think they are just mere English comprehension passage you can just interprete. You need to Start focusing on your own beliefs and the ways through which you will receive the kindness of God in life and hereafter. Your claim is that Islam is not a religion of peace and I think you have right to your opinion which is based on a reason best known to you and those who claim it is a religion of peace also have their reasons, so why are you worried about other people's opinions, everyone has a duty to God to achieve his kingdom, it's not our position to decide who God wants or doesn't and any argument is a waste of time. Can you tell me your position with God? Nobody knows their position with God so it is better to prepare ourselves with good and clean heart than looking at other people's frailties because everyone has theirs, thank you.

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Tajbol4splend:




So who interpreted those verses to you? You think they are just mere English comprehension passage you can just interprete. You need to Start focusing on your own beliefs and the ways through which you will receive the kindness of God in life and hereafter. Your claim is that Islam is not a religion of peace and I think you have right to your opinion which is based on a reason best known to you and those who claim it is a religion of peace also have their reasons, so why are you worried about other people's opinions, everyone has a duty to God to achieve his kingdom, it's not our position to decide who God wants or doesn't and any argument is a waste of time. Can you tell me your position with God? Nobody knows their position with God so it is better to prepare ourselves with good and clean heart than looking at other people's frailties because everyone has theirs, thank you.

Well, you are entitled to your own opinion.

But I don't need any further interpretations as those quotations are written in clear English language. Didn't you yourself understand when you read them. They have been interpreted already.

Do you know the Quran itself opposed the Jews and Christians? In fact, it attacked the Jews and Christians far more than it did for pagans. Why?

cleanvessel:


Well, you are entitled to your own opinion.

But I don't need any further interpretations as those quotations are written in clear English language. Didn't you yourself understood when you read them. They have been interpreted already.

Do you know the Quran itself opposed the Jews and Christians? In fact, it attacked the Jews and Christians far more than it did for pagans. Why?

The Qur'an faces Jews n Christians more coz Jews and Christians both claim they worship the true GOD but the Pagans know they are not worshipping the true GOD.

sulasa07:

The Qur'an faces Jews n Christians more coz Jews and Christians both claim they worship the true GOD but the Pagans know they are not worshipping the true GOD.

Yes, the Devil hates the devotees of the true God.

If Muslims and Christians worship the same God, why are Muslims fighting the Christians, the peaceful people? So are the Hindus persecuting the Christians in India. Muslims, Pagans, even athesists hate the Christians. This is not ordinary because Christians are supposed to be loved for their attitudes. Why should any reasonable person love Islam against Christianity, knowing that Muslims are commanded to hate and kill non-muslims.

Jesus Disciples were killed one by one for causing no violence. They were going about the Gospel peacefully, yet they were persecuted for no just cause. The same Devil that caused the killing of the Apostles is responsible for Muslims killing innocent Christians..

cleanvessel:


Yes, the Devil hates the devotees of the true God.

If Muslims and Christians worship the same God, why are Muslims fighting the Christians, the peaceful people? So are the Hindus persecuting the Christians in India. Muslims, Pagans, even athesists hate the Christians. This is not ordinary because Christians are supposed to be loved for their attitudes. Why should any reasonable person love Islam against Christianity, knowing that Muslims are commanded to hate and kill non-muslims.

Jesus Disciples were killed one by one for causing no violence. They were going about the Gospel peacefully, yet they were persecuted for no just cause. The same Devil that caused the killing of the Apostles is responsible for Muslims killing innocent Christians..

How about Is real killing Innocent Palestinians

sulasa07:
How about Is real killing Innocent Palestinians

That is a war between a nation and another nation.
They are fighting over land (space) and not for religion.

cleanvessel:


That is a war between a nation and another nation.

They are fighting over land (space) and not for religion.

So you know say dem dey fight for land,but media always make it look like Religion Matter,Jew vs Muslim.

sulasa07:

So you know say dem dey fight for land,but media always make it look like Religion Matter,Jew vs Muslim.

Don't mind them.

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Mat. 24:14

And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world as a witness to ALL nations and then the end shall come.

Jesus expected only the Gospel to be preached till the end of the world. This means he has no hand in the coming of Islam.

1 Cor. 3:11

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

That means any other foundation laid (i.e Islam and others) is not from the God of the Bible.

Whose Angel is Islamic Jubril that brought the Quran?

Certainty, Gabriel who broke the good news of Jesus birth and who said Jesus would be called the Son of God could not be the Jubril who brought the Quran that said God does not have a Son.


Bible, Luke 1:35]
And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, (i.e Mary) The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD .

[Matt 3:16-17]
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, in whom I am well pleased.

Jesus called Himself the Son of God.

[John 10:36]
“Are you saying to The One whom The Father sanctified and sent into the world, “You blaspheme”, because I SAID TO YOU, "I AM THE SON OF GOD?"


But Quran  112:3 says;
 He (Allah) begetteth not, nor is He begotten.

[Quran 9:30]
"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"