WackyJ1:


Their distinct ability was that they had a lot of distinct abilities. That was why the senju clan was renowned. They were known as the clan of a thousand jutsus or something like that. It jus that Hashirama's power was a lot stronger which could be as a result of him being a transmigrant

WackyJ1:


What is chakra?

And what is ninshu.

If you can answer these questions from your head then I will answer you.

rapmike:


Maybe I can offer something( depends on how you see it).

Chakra is a fusion of physical and 'spiritual' powers according to Sakura (probably taught in their school), so I guess everyone has some bit of it unused somewhere.

Thing is, Kaguya was probably the first person to use it and that confuses a bit, as she started using it after eating of the fruit.

What I think is this: the chakra fruit may have probably 'opened' her eyes to the power in addition to the crazy amount of chakra it must have given her. Probably the Sage realised this and taught others on how to fuse their spiritual powers together ( his original reason for ninshu) but then someone by accident learnt how to fuse spiritual energy with the physical energy and then started using Ninshu in war, thereby making it ninjutsu.

Evidence that suggest that people probably could make chakra before Kaguya's time ; Gai and Lee can hardly do Ninjutsu despite been ninjas and having the ability to release huge amounts of chakra ( by opening gates). Also the Samurai uses chakra without using Ninjutsu.

In essence, Kaguya may have been the mother of ninjas but since Samurai also used Chakra, she may not have been the only person to have chakra to use, making the Sage teachings a bit more possible. Think about it.

kingpheenix:
pls help me understand....when did they say chakara was gotten from another source cos I didn't see that anywhere

kingpheenix:
kaguya ate the fruit and was the first person 2 have chakara, she gave birth to 2 biological sons and they inherited some of the chakara just lyk desame way you inherited some of ur mothers genes....and all the children they had came with chakara dats how all their descendants became ninjas

kimco:


explain the other scenerio i gave as well....and see how they contradict

caboltx:
Kaguya ate the chakra fruit of the holy tree which gave her chakra. She gave birth to two sons hagoromo (hermit of six paths) and hamura. Hagoromo had rinnegan and sharingan while hamura had byakugan and probably tenseigan. The hermit had two sons indra and ashura. Indra had sharingan while ashura inherited his father's chakra nd life force. The uchiha clan are descendants of indra while the uzumaki nd the senju clan were descendants of ashura. The hyuga clan are the descendants of hamura. Hagoromo travelled round the world and gave people who believe in his teachings (ninshu) chakra. So other clans arouse due to the hermit sharing his chakra to them.

rapmike:


Maybe I can offer something( depends on how you see it).

Chakra is a fusion of physical and 'spiritual' powers according to Sakura (probably taught in their school), so I guess everyone has some bit of it unused somewhere.

Thing is, Kaguya was probably the first person to use it and that confuses a bit, as she started using it after eating of the fruit.

What I think is this: the chakra fruit may have probably 'opened' her eyes to the power in addition to the crazy amount of chakra it must have given her. Probably the Sage realised this and taught others on how to fuse their spiritual powers together ( his original reason for ninshu) but then someone by accident learnt how to fuse spiritual energy with the physical energy and then started using Ninshu in war, thereby making it ninjutsu.

Evidence that suggest that people probably could make chakra before Kaguya's time ; Gai and Lee can hardly do Ninjutsu despite been ninjas and having the ability to release huge amounts of chakra ( by opening gates). Also the Samurai uses chakra without using Ninjutsu.

In essence, Kaguya may have been the mother of ninjas but since Samurai also used Chakra, she may not have been the only person to have chakra to use, making the Sage teachings a bit more possible. Think about it.

willyblinx:

Manga Source please... About him travelling and giving chakra to people, i gree with him teaching ninshu though, just asking about the giving chakra part b'cos some have the notion that others inherited the chakra from their parents and grand parents (kaguya,hagoromo and hamura)
# or its just an opinion

kimco:


jux state ur claim....i dnt have tym to be doing this wacky

kingpheenix:
dude I give up.....cos if I continue like this with you I'll end up confusing myself

kingpheenix:
dude I give up.....cos if I continue like this with you I'll end up confusing myself

caboltx:
Kaguya ate the chakra fruit of the holy tree which gave her chakra. She gave birth to two sons hagoromo (hermit of six paths) and hamura. Hagoromo had rinnegan and sharingan while hamura had byakugan and probably tenseigan. The hermit had two sons indra and ashura. Indra had sharingan while ashura inherited his father's chakra nd life force. The uchiha clan are descendants of indra while the uzumaki nd the senju clan were descendants of ashura. The hyuga clan are the descendants of hamura. Hagoromo travelled round the world and gave people who believe in his teachings (ninshu) chakra. So other clans arouse due to the hermit sharing his chakra to them.

WackyJ1:
Now of Hagoromo and chakra

I was about to answer but i decided to go to naruto wikia and do some research..

The answer i would have given:

What is chakra?
Chakra is the fusion of spiritual energy and physical energy to be used in forming ninjutsu.

Now the sage may have come and then thought the people how to channel their spiritual energy and then fuse and mould it with other people's own and hence ninshu but with the knowledge that the sage had given them they used it to fuse it instead with their own physical energies and then weaponise it to form ninjutsu. Thus we can say that chakra did arise from hagoromo and indirectly his mother and the shinju.

The answer given in Naruto Wikia
Hagoromo shared his chakra to his followers to be able to connect their spiritual energies with other's but instead they used it to fuse their spiritual energies with their physical energies creating ninjutsu.

Now this would explain why some people in the naruto world have chakra and others don't.



NOTE TO EVERYONE HERE! I know wan hear tenseigan from anybody mouth! Except you have watch the naruto movie and if you have, provide the link here sharply. If not! don't mention

kimco:


at bolded: is dat a fact or u jux dragged it from u know where?

kimco:


can u imagine this....so who is right? manga or naruto wiki?

caboltx:
Kaguya ate the chakra fruit of the holy tree which gave her chakra. She gave birth to two sons hagoromo (hermit of six paths) and hamura. Hagoromo had rinnegan and sharingan while hamura had byakugan and probably tenseigan. The hermit had two sons indra and ashura. Indra had sharingan while ashura inherited his father's chakra nd life force. The uchiha clan are descendants of indra while the uzumaki nd the senju clan were descendants of ashura. The hyuga clan are the descendants of hamura. Hagoromo travelled round the world and gave people who believe in his teachings (ninshu) chakra. So other clans arouse due to the hermit sharing his chakra to them.

iyb:
Kaguya ate the chakra fruit and became powerfull she gave birth to two sons(Hagoromo and Hamura) each of the sons gaining about 30% of her original chakra making it a total of 60% of her original chakra. Hagoromo has rinnegan while hamura has the byakugan kaguya became furious because her two sons gained power so she merged with the shinju to become the ten tails.
she rampaged through the land until her two sons used the yin and yang seals to seal her rinne sharingan afterwards they used a sealing technique to seal her into hagoromo.
hagoromo shared some of the chakra amongst humanity and then he decided to create the tailed beast from her chakra and then he used chibaku tensei to create the moon and seal the demonic statue of the outer path(empty shell of kaguyas body). Hagoromo ordered hamura to take the rest of the otsutsuki clan to the moon and guard the remains of their mother and he told hamura to wait for 1000 years and see how humanity was using the chakra he shared to them.
A descendant of Hamura called toneri otsutsuki wanted to destro humanity but he was defeated by naruto.
the uchiha,senju,uzumaki are descendants of hagoromo while the hyuga,kaguya are descendants of hamura

Feraz:
Please, I do not think Hagoromo gave people chakra. He only gave (taught) nishuu. Chakra is akin to one's life force. There's this hidden life force in most of these mangas that depict powers. Hagoromo opened their eyes to chakra via nishuu

Wrong on the bolded. Kaguya is a descendant of the breeding of an Ootsutsuki and a Hyuuga. Hamura is Kaguya's descendant.

Feraz:
Please, I do not think Hagoromo gave people chakra. He only gave (taught) nishuu. Chakra is akin to one's life force. There's this hidden life force in most of these mangas that depict powers. Hagoromo opened their eyes to chakra via nishuu
Wrong on the bolded. Kaguya is a descendant of the breeding of an Ootsutsuki and a Hyuuga. Hamura is Kaguya's descendant.

iyb:

and yes the sage shared chakra with humanity
[img]http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/naruto/images/1/1a/Ninshu.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/180?cb=20140505155748[/img]

iyb:

i was talking about the kaguya clan(kimimaros clan)

WackyJ1:


Where did the manga say that naruto wikia is wrong?

caboltx:





i actually got it 4rm narutopedia

Jaymaestro:
Even at its manga end , Naruto is still wrapped up in fabrication and confusion .

Feraz:
Please, if it is not too much of a task, can I get the manga chapter and page number?

kimco:


can i also get this? cos wat u posted is japanese....we cant read read japanese