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Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by Bigbass: 3:54pm On Jun 07, 2019
The world’s most powerful 2.0 litre, four-cylinder series production engine has been revealed by Mercedes AMG, set to feature in its upcoming ’45’ model range.

Developing 415bhp in its most potent ‘S’ form, this completely new 2.0 turbo replaces the engine in used in the previous A45 A-Class, CLA45 and GLA45

Another major aim has been extracting a sportier driving experience from the engine by altering its torque delivery. While the previous, M133 four-cylinder engine’s torque curve resembled a diesel’s, rising steeply to level off across a wide chunk of the rev range, the new M139 2.0 produces more of a crescendo of thrust.


The aim is to produce the rising rush of acceleration characteristic of a revvy, normally aspirated engine. Rather than flat-lining, diesel-style, from around 2000rpm, AMG’s new engine generates peak torque at 5200rpm, while nevertheless producing more shove than the old one between 1000-2000rpm, the strongest surge developing from 3000rpm. Overall, said Illenberger, “it produces a more sporty delivery”.


The transmission shares the engine’s cooling circuit and has its own heat exchanger mounted directly to it. Also interesting is the fact that the engine is oriented 180 degrees opposite its predecessor with the exhaust manifold and turbo facing the firewall. This apparently helps reduce the complex turns needed for intake and exhaust piping, and that presumably also improves gas flow. And like all of AMG’s big V8s, each engine is assembled by one person’s hands.

Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:10pm On Jun 07, 2019
mediocre achievement when Nissan has a 1.5L 3cylinder power house with 400hp.
cc Heavenlybang and weyreypey grin

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:11pm On Jun 07, 2019
mediocre achievement when Nissan has a 1.5L 3cylinder power house with 400hp.
cc Heavenlybang and weyreypey grin
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by kingreign(m): 5:15pm On Jun 07, 2019
nurey:
mediocre achievement when Nissan has a 1.5L 3cylinder power house with 400hp.

cc Heavenlybang and weyreypey grin

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:20pm On Jun 07, 2019
nurey:
mediocre achievement when Nissan has a 1.5L 3cylinder power house with 400hp.

cc Heavenlybang and weyreypey grin

Racing engines and mass production engines are very different. One is built to last like 1k miles max, the other is built to last hundreds of thousands of miles.

I'm not sure if you're serious but Mercedes has a 1.6L turbocharged F1 engine that makes close to 900 HP. It's also on the Mercedes One:One, I believe.

This 2.0L engine is very impressive no matter how you spin it. In comparison, the Nissan GTR only makes 600 HP from a twin-turbocharged 3.8L V6.

Don't try to downplay what Mercedes achieved.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:22pm On Jun 07, 2019
kingreign:


Picture or adobvelive

I dub thee "sir doubting Thomas of Nairaland" you may rise (enlightened) as a Knight grin

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:30pm On Jun 07, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Racing engines and mass production engines are very different. One is built to last like 1k miles max, the one is built to last hundreds of thousands of miles.

I'm not sure if you're serious but Mercedes has a 1.6L turbocharged F1 engine that makes close to 900 HP. It's also on the Mercedes One:One, I believe.

This 2.0L engine is very impressive no matter how you spin it. In comparison, the Nissan GTR only makes 600 HP from a twin-turbocharged 3.8L V6.

Don't try to downplay what Mercedes achieved.

This is for history, let it be known that the smallest engine with the biggest hp was first done by a Japanese manufacturer, the Germans won't steal this grin

The Benz 1.6L you talking about is a V8 not something less and the Mazda 1.3L V8 for same race category was a badass.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:33pm On Jun 07, 2019
nurey:


This is for history, let it be known that the smallest engine with the biggest hp was first done by a Japanese manufacturer, the Germans won't steal this grin

The Benz 1.6L you talking about is a V8 not something less and the Mazda 1.3L V8 for same race category was a badass.

Current F1 uses turbocharged V6s, not V8s.

Bros, your point is invalid.

The Nissan engine you talked about is a racing engine, and I've gone on to give you an example of a Mercedes equivalent engine that completely destroys it. Nissan hasn't done anything groundbreaking.

In terms of mass production engines used in street legal cars, this 2.0L on the A45 is king.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:37pm On Jun 07, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Current F1 uses turbocharged V6s, not V8s.

Bros, your point is invalid.

The Nissan engine you talked about is a racing engine, and I've gone on to give you an example of a Mercedes equivalent engine that completely destroys it. Nissan hasn't done anything groundbreaking.

In terms of mass production engines used in street legal cars, this 2.0L on the A45 is king.

you want to argue Sha I will wait for you by that sweet corner, where you always enter my trap. 2020 is a few months away

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:37pm On Jun 07, 2019
Making big power on a small engine is nothing impressive.

Making big power on a small engine without it grenading after 5k miles is what is actually worthy of note.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:38pm On Jun 07, 2019
nurey:


you want to argue Sha I will wait for you by that sweet corner, where you always enter my trap. 2020 is a few months away

Right. You know I only argue with hard data and facts. I dey wait you for front.
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:40pm On Jun 07, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Right. You know I only argue with hard data and facts. I dey wait you for front.

You know nah, Las Las we go leave horse power focus on 0-62 and quarter mile nah the Koko for the matter be that grin
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 5:47pm On Jun 07, 2019
nurey:


You know nah, Las Las we go leave horse power focus on 0-62 and quarter mile nah the Koko for the matter be that grin

Las las. grin


Anyway, 400 HP on a car as light as the A45 is enough to tension M3's and C63's.

See wetin the new Supra dey do with only 350 HP. I expect the A46 to have a 0-60 of about 4s flat. 1/4 miles in about 12s.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 5:55pm On Jun 07, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Las las. grin


Anyway, 400 HP on a car as light as the A45 is enough to tension M3's and C63's.

See wetin the new Supra dey do with only 350 HP. I expect the A46 to have a 0-60 of about 4s flat. 1/4 miles in about 12s.

haba Bros stop jumping the gun, it would be a miracle if it achieves it at 5secs. but we shall be waiting at the 370z corner
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 6:02pm On Jun 07, 2019
nurey:


haba Bros stop jumping the gun, it would be a miracle if it achieves it at 5secs. but we shall be waiting at the 370z corner

Lol, nice joke. A much heavier Infiniti Q50 Red Sport does 0-60 in 4.5s with 400HP. The A35 already does it in 4.7s with just 302 HP.

The A45 will do it in 4.0s, easily. Watch and see.
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 6:07pm On Jun 07, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Lol, nice joke. A much heavier Infiniti Q50 Red Sport does 0-60 in 4.5s with 400HP. The A35 already does it in 4.7s with just 302 HP.

The A45 will do it in 4.0s, easily. Watch and see.

Till then, Adios Amigo grin

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by 9icetoo(m): 6:38pm On Jun 07, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
Making big power on a small engine is nothing impressive.

Making big power on a small engine without it grenading after 5k miles is what is actually worthy of note.
That's the koko. Next you hear you have to replace the turbo and water pump every 80,000 miles.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by weyreypey: 4:23am On Jun 08, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Current F1 uses turbocharged V6s, not V8s.

Bros, your point is invalid.

The Nissan engine you talked about is a racing engine, and I've gone on to give you an example of a Mercedes equivalent engine that completely destroys it. Nissan hasn't done anything groundbreaking.

In terms of mass production engines used in street legal cars, this 2.0L on the A45 is king.
My long lost brother...... Now my joy is full.
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by king406(m): 6:01am On Jun 08, 2019
Nurey wetin benz do you?
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 6:55am On Jun 08, 2019
weyreypey:

My long lost brother...... Now my joy is full.

Don't call me "bro". Your bro is in Yaba, collecting treatment. angry

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 7:21am On Jun 08, 2019
king406:
Nurey wetin benz do you?

Benz no offend me at all at all, nah the Benz or nothing fans dey always try to re-write history the wrong way, we have to put a check to that

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by weyreypey: 12:51pm On Jun 08, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Don't call me "bro". My bro is in Yaba, collecting treatment. angry
Is alright. True you are not up to been a bro to me. Hi son!

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by king406(m): 3:43pm On Jun 08, 2019
nurey:


Benz no offend me at all at all, nah the Benz or nothing fans dey always try to re-write history the wrong way, we have to put a check to that
agreed. The hype over mercedes has become out of hand, especially from those who know nothing about cars, its annoying. But find a better way to argue, nissan will not win you anything.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 3:58pm On Jun 08, 2019
king406:
agreed. The hype over mercedes has become out of hand, especially from those who know nothing about cars, its annoying. But find a better way to argue, nissan will not win you anything.

Lol, leave us alone. Nissan has a lot of street racing pedigree.

I still stan the GTR.


But yeah, the Mercedes hype is getting ridiculous. What are your thoughts on your IS vs your previous German cars?
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by king406(m): 9:22pm On Jun 08, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Lol, leave us alone. Nissan has a lot of street racing pedigree.

I still stan the GTR.


But yeah, the Mercedes hype is getting ridiculous. What are your thoughts on your IS vs your previous German cars?
nurey was not only talking trash about mercedes, but all of germany, that means including bmw and porsche. My IS has held its own greatly, i havent pushed it as much as i thought i would because of the kidnapping going on along abj-kaduna road. I initially bought the car for the purpose of my weekly trips, i wanted something that pushed out 300hp+ without the high maintenance cost of something like an 2009-2011 E550, though that has about 380hp but it was what i had in mind at first. It is definitely not even a close comparison to my previous C230, no need to waste time on that. Performance wise, it is quicker than my E350 but i feel more confident with the benz on high speed. The lexus is more nimble and stiff which makes it feel more performance oriented. My only complain about the lexus is the transmission, not that its bad, but i feel the difference 1 less gear makes compared to the mercedes. I am more confident overtaking with the transmission on that benz than the 6 speed on the IS. However, i always find myself going in the IS whenever i feel like driving quick, i have been getting 5.7-5.9secs to 60mph. It is a very tight call between the IS and my previous 335i. One thing is clear, the bmw was more balanced at high speeds and had better handling. It also had a better transmission, 0-60 pull feels pretty equal, too close to call i dont know which to pick. But the bmw definitely felt faster on the higher end, probably because of the turbochargers, that thing does not stop pulling. Overall, i’d buy the IS over and over again, very solid car and it has been reliable too, it is a car you buy when you want to drive fast but dont want anybody to know grin

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 9:57pm On Jun 08, 2019
king406:
nurey was not only talking trash about mercedes, but all of germany, that means including bmw and porsche. My IS has held its own greatly, i havent pushed it as much as i thought i would because of the kidnapping going on along abj-kaduna road. I initially bought the car for the purpose of my weekly trips, i wanted something that pushed out 300hp+ without the high maintenance cost of something like an 2009-2011 E550, though that has about 380hp but it was what i had in mind at first. It is definitely not even a close comparison to my previous C230, no need to waste time on that. Performance wise, it is quicker than my E350 but i feel more confident with the benz on high speed. The lexus is more nimble and stiff which makes it feel more performance oriented. My only complain about the lexus is the transmission, not that its bad, but i feel the difference 1 less gear makes compared to the mercedes. I am more confident overtaking with the transmission on that benz than the 6 speed on the IS. However, i always find myself going in the IS whenever i feel like driving quick, i have been getting 5.7-5.9secs to 60mph. It is a very tight call between the IS and my previous 335i. One thing is clear, the bmw was more balanced at high speeds and had better handling. It also had a better transmission, 0-60 pull feels pretty equal, too close to call i dont know which to pick. But the bmw definitely felt faster on the higher end, probably because of the turbochargers, that thing does not stop pulling. Overall, i’d buy the IS over and over again, very solid car and it has been reliable too, it is a car you buy when you want to drive fast but dont want anybody to know grin

Thanks for this! Interesting to see how you can feel the extra gear. Also, German cars are unbeatable in terms of high speed control. Even a Golf is built to be able to reach its limiter without feeling like it's about to toss you off the road, something most Japanese cars can't boast of.

I think the 335i should be a lot faster than your IS. That car pulls! The N54 is shocked shocked

>Overall, i’d buy the IS over and over again, very solid car and it has been reliable too, it is a car you buy when you want to drive fast but dont want anybody to know grin

Las las, this is the most important part. I've never met an IS350 on the highway but I definitely won't be trying to race anyone I see. Probably just honk to say hi and go my own way, me I don't have power to be gapped by a Lexus. grin The IS is such a sleeper.

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by king406(m): 3:11am On Jun 09, 2019
HeavenlyBang:


Thanks for this! Interesting to see how you can feel the extra gear. Also, German cars are unbeatable in terms of high speed control. Even a Golf is built to be able to reach its limiter without feeling like it's about to toss you off the road, something most Japanese cars can't boast of.

I think the 335i should be a lot faster than your IS. That car pulls! The N54 is shocked shocked

>Overall, i’d buy the IS over and over again, very solid car and it has been reliable too, it is a car you buy when you want to drive fast but dont want anybody to know grin

Las las, this is the most important part. I've never met an IS350 on the highway but I definitely won't be trying to race anyone I see. Probably just honk to say hi and go my own way, me I don't have power to be gapped by a Lexus. grin The IS is such a sleeper.
i wouldnt advice you to, the numbers between the lexus and your g35 are too close to call, may the better driver win. How is that car treating you? A G37S coupe is still on my bucket list!

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Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by weyreypey: 4:20am On Jun 09, 2019
nurey:


Benz no offend me at all at all, nah the Benz or nothing fans dey always try to re-write history the wrong way, we have to put a check to that
You'll never see a Benz fan talking about your Toyota to feel relevant.... Take a cue bro
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by nurey(m): 6:58am On Jun 09, 2019
weyreypey:

You'll never see a Benz fan talking about your Toyota to feel relevant.... Take a cue bro

please Don't mix my name with Toyota, wetin concern me and Toyota for Benz mata
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 7:27am On Jun 09, 2019
king406:
i wouldnt advice you to, the numbers between the lexus and your g35 are too close to call, may the better driver win. How is that car treating you? A G37S coupe is still on my bucket list!

Treating me quite well, though I haven't been with it for a while now. But so far, so good.

A G37S Coupe is the ultimate G. grin
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by HeavenlyBang(m): 12:44pm On Dec 06, 2019
Re: Mercedes-amg Unveils Most Powerful Four-cylinder 416hp Engine Ever by DAVE5(m): 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2019
king406:
nurey was not only talking trash about mercedes, but all of germany, that means including bmw and porsche. My IS has held its own greatly, i havent pushed it as much as i thought i would because of the kidnapping going on along abj-kaduna road. I initially bought the car for the purpose of my weekly trips, i wanted something that pushed out 300hp+ without the high maintenance cost of something like an 2009-2011 E550, though that has about 380hp but it was what i had in mind at first. It is definitely not even a close comparison to my previous C230, no need to waste time on that. Performance wise, it is quicker than my E350 but i feel more confident with the benz on high speed. The lexus is more nimble and stiff which makes it feel more performance oriented. My only complain about the lexus is the transmission, not that its bad, but i feel the difference 1 less gear makes compared to the mercedes. I am more confident overtaking with the transmission on that benz than the 6 speed on the IS. However, i always find myself going in the IS whenever i feel like driving quick, i have been getting 5.7-5.9secs to 60mph. It is a very tight call between the IS and my previous 335i. One thing is clear, the bmw was more balanced at high speeds and had better handling. It also had a better transmission, 0-60 pull feels pretty equal, too close to call i dont know which to pick. But the bmw definitely felt faster on the higher end, probably because of the turbochargers, that thing does not stop pulling. Overall, i’d buy the IS over and over again, very solid car and it has been reliable too, it is a car you buy when you want to drive fast but dont want anybody to know grin


Reading this your comment makes me want to cry, so I sold my is250 and bought a freaking c300, I’ll say one thing, the c300 is stupidly too slow for my liking, the Lexus felt faster and that gave me an unexplainable joy in my soul anytime I pushed her, the Benz feels more like a truck anytime I want to pull a stunt, but the sale of the is250 was inevitable though, can’t wait to buy me an is350 to replace my sweet passion or best bet for me isf

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