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Re: How God Created Light by HappyPagan: 4:39pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

Yes. This is too high for you. Get lost inside your shrine pagan
You say 'shrine' like it is a negative thing, something horrible to be attached to...

Your distaste for my 'religion' shouldn't be a cover-up for your withering reasoning. I only pray exposure effects you positively.
Re: How God Created Light by budaatum: 5:36pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

God is Light, not the sun. The Earth's sun receives its light and warmth from the Light of Heaven which is Jesus.
Did you read Revelation 22:5?

And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
So, the Sun's comeabout is not God's comeabout? Why then did you say knowing how God came about would explain how the sun came about as if they are the same thing?

Could you enlighten me please as I am of the suspicion that you may be on to a valid connection between the Sun and God.

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Re: How God Created Light by asalimpo(m): 6:32pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

But it's clearly written there that the Light in Genesis is Jesus nah. The Light was not the sun or moon, those came on the third day. Read again.

Even John said it. ' In the Beginning' 'which beginning?

In the beginning was the Word,

and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him;

and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life;

and the life was the Light of men.

And the Light shineth in darkness;

and the darkness comprehended it not.
(Remember in Genesis, the whole earth was covered with daekness and God said, let there be Light?)

The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light,

that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light,

but was sent to bear witness of that Light.


John 1:1-5, 7-8


John 1:9-12

[b]That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

He (WHO) was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. (meaning He was always here).

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

See that Jesus went from being the Word, to the Life,
to Light and finally to a person?

so God spoke Jesus into existence. Then Jesus went on to create all things for ,his master? No! For himself! Dude! Your thinking is off track.

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Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 7:40pm On Jun 12
asalimpo:

so God spoke Jesus into existence. Then Jesus went on to create all things for ,his master? No! For himself! Dude! Your thinking is off track.
Then put me on track.
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 7:42pm On Jun 12
budaatum:

So, the Sun's comeabout is not God's comeabout? Why then did you say knowing how God came about would explain how the sun came about as if they are the same thing?

Could you enlighten me please as I am of the suspicion that you may be on to a valid connection between the Sun and God.
Which Sun are you referring to? The Earth's sun or the Heaven's?
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 7:45pm On Jun 12
HappyPagan:

You say 'shrine' like it is a negative thing, something horrible to be attached to...

Your distaste for my 'religion' shouldn't be a cover-up for your withering reasoning. I only pray exposure effects you positively.
A juju shrine is not a negative thing?

Hahahahahahaha. You pray that I be exposed to accept the worship of ancestors?

It hasn't dawn on you that there are no ancestors fa? You Worship demons Happy or rather, SadPagan.

I'd give my head to be chopped off rather than bow to satan.
Re: How God Created Light by HappyPagan: 8:00pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

A juju shrine is not a negative thing?
Why do you consider it negative? Have you ever been to one? Have you ever been to a shrine?

Shepherd00:

Hahahahahahaha. You pray that I be exposed to accept the worship of ancestors?
Well, you seem to love other people's ancestors - the abrahams, the moses, the elijahs, the ishmaels, and their stories. You're proud to have been 'adopted' by a foreign god.

Shepherd00:

It hasn't dawn on you that there are no ancestors fa? You Worship demons Happy or rather, SadPagan.
Shepherd, feed the sheep. Shepherd, watch my flock. You call your ancestors demons because you do not know them. You'd rather carry a cross, and go a-suffering, in vain hope of a crown after death. How wretched and bereft of knowledge your mind is.
Shepherd00:

I'd give my head to head be chopped off rather than bow to satan.
No need to chop your head off - the treasure within hardly works anyways.

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Re: How God Created Light by asalimpo(m): 8:33pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:
Then put me on track.
stop smoking weed wen reading the scriptures. That will put u on track.

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Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 9:22pm On Jun 12
asalimpo:
stop smoking weed wen reading the scriptures. That will put u on track.


Okay. I have heard you. Thank you for your advice.
You don't smoke weed abi?
Now, go on and put me on track.
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 9:49pm On Jun 12
HappyPagan:

Why do you consider it negative? Have you ever been to one? Have you ever been to a shrine?
What a dumb question from a daft? I live in Nigeria surrounded by native people who are pagans like you. Nollywood is showcasing the realities of our society. Right here in this Forum, I have read people who are Core traditionalist, Yoruba hard Core ATR's, The likes of Babalawos, Vax and many more (Not your feable type). This is not enough for me to know what happens in a shrine until I go there right? What will the living be looking for amongst the dead HappyPeggy?

HappyPagan:

Well, you seem to love other people's ancestors - theo abrahams, the moses, the elijahs, the ishmaels, and their stories. You're proud to have been 'adopted' by a foreign god.
Only these people you mentioned are alive. (I don't know for Ismael tho).

Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus in the Mountain. Three people saw them. Peter, James and John.
And Abraham is alive too.

Besides, in my religion, we don't consult them for anything.

HappyPagan:

Shepherd, feed the sheep. Shepherd, watch my flock
Do you have any flock which needs feeding?
And, why aren't you quoting from your Orisa, why the Bible?

Guy, maintain your lane o.

HappyPagan post=79271983
You call your ancestors demons because you do not know them. You'd rather carry a cross, and go a-suffering, in vain hope of a crown after death. How wretched and bereft of knowledge your mind is.[/quote]
My ancestors are dead and are awaiting resurrection when the Trumpet sounds. I don't have any connection with them. I don't need their help, for they have nothing that I need. The living is more powerful than the dead

Sorry HappyPeg, Demons are deceiving you to worship them by lying to you that they are your ancestors. lol. I'd like to see the look on your face when you finally meet the demons impersonating your Ancestors when you die. Dem go laf at your stupidity.

[quote author=HappyPagan
:

No need to chop your head off - the treasure within hardly works anyways.
You have no idea.
.
Re: How God Created Light by kkins25(m): 9:56pm On Jun 12
vaxx:
The source of the light already existed before but it could not yet enter the room until the drapes were opened. Hence, when the dark murkiness of the waters began to clear the light from the sun started penetrating the waters of earth. There came to be light. Unless you want to tell me the heaven too was dark and voild.
I dont think so, at least according to the bible. In the context in which the phrase "let there be" was used, God clearly created light.


Genesis 1:3-11, 16 (KJV)
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under [/b]the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, [b]Let the earth bring forth grass, [/b]the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [b]he made the stars also
.

If we go by your logic here

The source of the light already existed before but it could not yet enter the room until the drapes were opened. Hence, when the dark murkiness of the waters began to clear the light from the sun started penetrating the waters of earth. There came to be light. Unless you want to tell me the heaven too was dark and voild.

It would also mean that when God said "let the earth bring forth grass" as seen above- he didn't create grass. Are you saying the source of the grass existed in the soil before God was born? Are you also impling that God did not specifically create anything. He simply made conditions favorable?
Or are you saying God created everything else but didn't create light. If yes then he is only God of the biosphere he created and not God of the multivariate as we know it.

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Re: How God Created Light by kkins25(m): 10:10pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

But it's clearly written there that the Light in Genesis is Jesus nah. The Light was not the sun or moon, those came on the third day. Read again.

Even John said it. ' In the Beginning' 'which beginning?

In the beginning was the Word,

and the Word was with God,

and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him;

and without him was not any thing made that was made.

In him was life;

and the life was the Light of men.

And the Light shineth in darkness;


with this kind of statement I'm beginning to wonder if the your previous arguments with muttleylaff was copy and paste. This is the greatest blunder of June 2019. Three gbosa! grin
To respond to that poop you wrote up there properly:
Riddle me this,
[b]let us assume JESUS was indeed this Light you talk of.

Let us then "search and replace LIGHT with 'jesus'. Alright here we Go!!
This is the original
Genesis 1:3-11, 16 (KJV)
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Now compare with the transcribe version :

Genesis 1:3-11, 16 (KJV)
3 And God said, Let there be JESUS: and there was JESUS.
4 And God saw the JESUS, that it was good: and God divided the JESUS from the darkness.
5 And God called the JESUS Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first DAY.

So shepherd, how the deuce does God separate jesus from the night and calls jesus day Budaatum, come carry your brother commit from here!!!!

Also if the book of genesis isn't obviously in err by having two types of day and night? Why have a day when he hadn't even made the sun? See below

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
one of God's biggest blunder!!
Re: How God Created Light by HappyPagan: 10:20pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

What a dumb question from a daft? I live in Nigeria surrounded by native people who are pagans like you.
But somehow, you have never been to a shrine. You are such an awful liar.

Shepherd00:

Nollywood is showcasing the realities of our society.
Y'all watch Nollywood like you read your Bible - with fear and trembling. Drink without questioning, swallow with eyes open.

A functioning brain works because Reason and Logic stand guard at its gate, vetting every information that comes in, questioning the source, reviewing old information. Believe without questioning, nothing noble or godly about that.


Shepherd00:

Right here in this Forum, I have read people who are Core traditionalist, Yoruba hard Core ATR's, The likes of Babalawos, Vax and many more (Not your feable type).
Tbf, all you do is jump on my threads like a rabid dog, sniping and barking at whatever image you have painted of me in your head. I apologize that my pagan is not your taste. I will try to work on it.


Shepherd00:

This is not enough for me to know what happens in a shrine until I go there right? What will the living be looking for amongst the dead HappyPeggy?
I've been to numerous churches, a few mosques, a few Hindu temples too. You've only ever been to a church, yet somehow we should trust your opinion on religions you do not practice? Religions you've deemed worthless and useless... unlike the foreign one you're so drunk on. Funny Shepherd.

Shepherd00:

Only these people you mentioned are alive. (I don't know for Ismael tho). Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus in the Mountain. Three people saw them. Peter, James and John.
And Abraham is alive too.
See how happy the town idiot is to reel off the names of his Jewish saviors. If it were possible, he would learn Aramaic, Hebrew and Yiddish so he could experience their 'God' more. Are you the sheep or the shepherd, the leader or the led?


Shepherd00:

Besides, in my religion, we don't consult them for anything.
Yeah, I'm sure you didn't talk to Jesus this morning.

Shepherd00:

Do you have any flock which needs feeding?
And, why aren't you quoting from your Orisa, why the Bible?
The Bible is a powerless book - anybody can quote it. It's like reading nursery rhymes - only more ridiculous.


Shepherd00:


Guy, maintain your lane o.

Lol, what are you gonna do? slay me with the holy ghost fire? lmao. grin grin grin grin

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Re: How God Created Light by kkins25(m): 10:37pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

God is Light, not the sun. The Earth's sun receives its light and warmth from the Light of Heaven which is Jesus.
Did you read Revelation 22:5?


And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
At bolded,
My God My God, why haven't you struck down this shepherd? The sun as every homo sapien(you my friend is definitely a walking homo habilis) knows(honestly I thought I had seen it all but this dumbness you have advertised clearly as a gift from your God has made me realise I know nothing)is as it is because of the the immense nuclear fusion, and fission taking place between subatomic particles, and atomic particles. That Light is actually the visible disturbance created by the chemical reactions -as light is indeed an electromagnetic wave. All visible light in the universe comes Stars, galaxy's nebulae and what have you. The only light which may have not been visible that existed before the birth of stars was that of the BIG BANG.

Muttleylaff, TV01, do you see the interpretation bias I was talking of on your SS thread? Where do you Christians get your inspiration from? The Holy what now??
Re: How God Created Light by kkins25(m): 10:41pm On Jun 12
HappyPagan:

But somehow, you have never been to a shrine. You are such an awful liar.


Y'all watch Nollywood like you read your Bible - with fear and trembling. Drink without questioning, swallow with eyes open.

A functioning brain works because Reason and Logic stand guard at its gate, vetting every information that comes in, questioning the source, reviewing old information. Believe without questioning, nothing noble or godly about that.



Tbf, all you do is jump on my threads like a rabid dog, sniping and barking at whatever image you have painted of me in your head. I apologize that my pagan is not your taste. I will try to work on it.



I've been to numerous churches, a few mosques, a few Hindu temples too. You've only ever been to a church, yet somehow we should trust your opinion on religions you do not practice? Religions you've deemed worthless and useless... unlike the foreign one you're so drunk on. Funny Shepherd.


See how happy the town idiot is to reel off the names of his Jewish saviors. If it were possible, he would learn Aramaic, Hebrew and Yiddish so he could experience their 'God' more. Are you the sheep or the shepherd, the leader or the led?



Yeah, I'm sure you didn't talk to Jesus this morning.


The Bible is a powerless book - anybody can quote it. It's like reading nursery rhymes - only more ridiculous.



Lol, what are you gonna do? slay me with the holy ghost fire? lmao. grin grin grin grin
No mind the guy!! Even the religion he is bragging about was given to his ancestors alongside a very effective whip. It is the fear of the whip that turned Africans into Christianity and not hell. After all the whip was very much real and its damning effects well known. Unlike imaginary hell
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 10:54pm On Jun 12
HappyPagan:

But somehow, you have never been to a shrine. You are such an awful liar.
It's not 'Somehow'. I have never entered a shrine. Did I say I had?

Awful liar?As in how?

HappyPagan:

Tbf, all you do is jump on my threads like a rabid dog, sniping and barking at whatever image you have painted of me in your head. I apologize that my pagan is not your taste. I will try to work on it.
'Your pagan is not my taste?'. See this kitten. What have I to do with Paganism to begin with?

If only you'd take my advise and relegate yourself to your pagan threads, I won't even notice a twerp like exists in NL, but you keep jumping into Christian threads to talk about stuff you know nothing abt.

HappyPagan:

Y'all watch Nollywood like you read your Bible - with fear and trembling. Drink without questioning, swallow with eyes open.
You are slobbering. What are you talking about? hahahahahahaha. HappyPeggy, pls make sense.

HappyPagan:

A functioning brain works because Reason and Logic stand guard at its gate, vetting every information that comes in, questioning the source, reviewing old information. Believe without questioning, nothing noble or godly about that.
You wish you know what reasoning is, Yeah? You sound like a child and I hardly have time for unruly kids.

HappyPagan:

I've been to numerous churches, a few mosques, a few Hindu temples too. You've only ever been to a church, yet somehow we should trust your opinion on religions you do not practice? Religions you've deemed worthless and useless... unlike the foreign one you're so drunk on. Funny Shepherd.
Hmmm. He has been to numerous churches, a few mosques and few hindu Temples, and ended up in a shrine', So, he is qualified to teach me Christianity since I have only been to One Church.

If I may ask. What were you looking for in those numerous churches, Mosques and Temples? Weytin you loose?

You been dey find your brain wey satan don chop tey tey abi?

And if you can be truthful (Which I can never bet the life of the rat in a sewer on) what are the names of these Churches? Wld they be anything other than Marine Centers masquerading as Churches?


HappyPagan:

See how happy the town idiot is to reel off the names of his Jewish saviors. If it were possible, he would learn Aramaic, Hebrew and Yiddish so he could experience their 'God' more. Are you the sheep or the shepherd, the leader or the led?
E pain Am. Hahahahahahahaha.

HappyPagan:

Yeah, I'm sure you didn't talk to Jesus this morning
Jesus is not dead, dummy.
HappyPagan:

The Bible is a powerless book - anybody can quote it. It's like reading nursery rhymes - only more ridiculous.
Yeah right! Yet you guys can't talk without referencing it. Satan has got you all in robes. Poor Peggyguy

HappyPagan:

Lol, what are you gonna do? slay me with the holy ghost fire? lmao. grin grin grin grin
Unruly street urchin.

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Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 10:55pm On Jun 12
kkins25:

At bolded,
My God My God, why haven't you struck down this shepherd? The sun as every homo sapien(you my friend is definitely a walking homo habilis) knows(honestly I thought I had seen it all but this dumbness you have advertised clearly as a gift from your God has made me realise I know nothing)is as it is because of the the immense nuclear fusion, and fission taking place between subatomic particles, and atomic particles. That Light is actually the visible disturbance created by the chemical reactions -as light is indeed an electromagnetic wave. All visible light in the universe comes Stars, galaxy's nebulae and what have you. The only light which may have not been visible that existed before the birth of stars was that of the BIG BANG.

Muttleylaff, TV01, do you see the interpretation bias I was talking of on your SS thread? Where do you Christians get your inspiration from? The Holy what now??
How old are you? I guess 16 in secondary school.
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 10:57pm On Jun 12
kkins25:


with this kind of statement I'm beginning to wonder if the your previous arguments with muttleylaff was copy and paste. This is the greatest blunder of June 2019. Three gbosa! grin
To respond to that poop you wrote up there properly:
Riddle me this,
let us assume JESUS was indeed this Light you talk of.
Let us then "search and replace LIGHT with 'jesus'. Alright here we Go!!
This is the original

Now compare with the transcribe version :

Genesis 1:3-11, 16 (KJV)
3 And God said, Let there be JESUS: and there was JESUS.
4 And God saw the JESUS, that it was good: and God divided the JESUS from the darkness.
5 And God called the JESUS Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first DAY.

So shepherd, how the deuce does God separate jesus from the night and calls jesus day Budaatum, come carry your brother commit from here!!!!

Also if the book of genesis isn't obviously in err by having two types of day and night? Why have a day when he hadn't even made the sun? See below

one of God's biggest blunder!!

You are unintelligent so can't get my attention. Fight with Yourself kid.
Re: How God Created Light by kkins25(m): 11:02pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

You are unintelligent so can't get my attention. Fight with Yourself kid.
all I have done my dear adult friend is transcribed your post which claimed jesus was the Light in Genesis 1:3..
Re: How God Created Light by kkins25(m): 11:06pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

How old are you? I guess 16 in secondary school.

Shepard00: the sun gets its light from God

Kkins: the sun's light is simply electromagnetic waves caused by the chemical reactions in the sun.


You're quite right you know. God is indeed the sun's fuel. Forgive my err, I'm just a sec school student
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 11:24pm On Jun 12
kkins25:


Shepard00: the sun gets its light from God

Kkins: the sun's light is simply electromagnetic waves caused by the chemical reactions in the sun.


You're quite right you know. God is indeed the sun's fuel. Forgive my err, I'm just a sec school student
You are not worth my time.

Now, move along.
Re: How God Created Light by HappyPagan: 11:29pm On Jun 12
Shepherd00:

You are not worth my time.

Now, move along.
Oga Shepherd, you need help.
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 11:32pm On Jun 12
HappyPagan:
Oga Shepherd, you need help.
In what way?
Re: How God Created Light by asalimpo(m): 12:06am On Jun 13
Shepherd00:

Okay. I have heard you. Thank you for your advice.

You don't smoke weed abi?

Now, go on and put me on track.
After dropping ur wrap of weed, screen the ideas you get in the context of scriptures and basic rules of logic- conclusions must follow from premises- before publishing your insights.
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 12:27am On Jun 13
asalimpo:

After dropping ur wrap of weed, screen the ideas you get in the context of scriptures and basic rules of logic- conclusions must follow from premises- before publishing your insights.
Can you do that to the post?
Pls, i'm imploring you to do that.
Re: How God Created Light by budaatum: 11:55am On Jun 13
Shepherd00:

Which Sun are you referring to? The Earth's sun or the Heaven's?
I only know of one sun. The capitalisation was an error.

Are there separate suns? One in heaven and one for the earth? Which is Jesus and what's the other?

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Re: How God Created Light by asalimpo(m): 12:10pm On Jun 13
Shepherd00:

Can you do that to the post?
Pls, i'm imploring you to do that.
no sarcasm intended,but u r not making anysense. Do what to d post? Publish it for u?
Think bf u type.
#drop that hemp wrap! It's fogging ur senses
Re: How God Created Light by Funaki: 12:36pm On Jun 13
budaatum:

I only know of one sun. The capitalisation was an error.

Are there separate suns? One in heaven and one for the earth? Which is Jesus and what's the other?

Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 12:47pm On Jun 13
asalimpo:

no sarcasm intended,but u r not making anysense. Do what to d post? Publish it for u?
Think bf u type.
#drop that hemp wrap! It's fogging ur senses
When you go attacking people, shouldn't you do better than them?

Empty barrel.
Re: How God Created Light by Shepherd00: 12:51pm On Jun 13
budaatum:

I only know of one sun. The capitalisation was an error.

Are there separate suns? One in heaven and one for the earth? Which is Jesus and what's the other?

Again, did you read Revelation 22:5 I posted?
Re: How God Created Light by budaatum: 1:25pm On Jun 13
Shepherd00:

Again, did you read Revelation 22:5 I posted?
I better post evidence so you can see I have read Revelation 22:5 you posted.

I must say, it hardly answers my questions since it appears to be talking about some future "for ever and ever", when "There will be no more night", which there was just last night during which I, and I'd think, you, did need the light of a lamp. Remember, we are talking about "And there was light", which followed "Let there be light", in the beginning when everything was formless dark and void.


Thing is Shepherd, you may have a point, but I detect something stops you explaining what it is and leaves us all misunderstanding what you might be saying. Is it that you expect us to take your word for it perhaps, without understanding what we are being asked to accept? I implore you to not waste this opportunity to put a light on this formless dark void, please.

Re: How God Created Light by asalimpo(m): 1:37pm On Jun 13
Shepherd00:

When you go attacking people, shouldn't you do better than them?

Empty barrel.
your angst is tht i say u should stop smoking weed. What else would make u espouse such dumb crap asto make a reader suspect that u r high on something mind bending? Either weed/crack or not. If not,then u r naturally dumb. So which is which?
Just do some thinking bf u post. That's d moral of d posts.

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