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Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by koruji(m): 10:07pm On Oct 03, 2010
koruji:

@tpiah
This is exactly how I thought you see this - and exactly the same way those adults in the picture see the condition of the kids. They are free - that is the begining and end of it according to you and them. The point is though that while those kids are free, THEY ARE FAR FROM OKAY, and in saner environments arranging a photo op in those conditions and with that level of contrast would be considered callous.
It is a mentality that we really need to change in Nigeria - we see only what is "visible". Those kids, and I must say millions of Nigeria's kid, are being damaged by the way we bring them up. Then adults are surprised when years later this same kids come looking for them in the night or blowing them up or kidnapping.
You keep using words like daft and illiterate - sad to break it to you, you are the blind one. Your ignorance is stunning. When the level of consciousness is limited in this way people tend to you your exact words to describe those who can see what is wrong, or right for that matter.


If you didn't read before the above is for your instruction, madam. Your strawman argument is alarming. We are talking about what the governor and his friends did wrong in taking this picture you are setting up strawman arguments and calling people names: "as if the miscreants who snatched them took them to disneyworld" and "the next thing to ask is where are the kidnappers" as if anybody mentioned any of these in their appraisal of this photo. O'un ti o da o lo'ruko miran, aida lo'nje.

tpiah:

abi were ni e ni?
anybody whose head is not correct should continue running their shameless mouths here.
the important thing is the kids have been found.
the next thing to ask is where are the kidnappers, not why werent the children gussied up as if the miscreants who snatched them took them to disneyworld.
can some of you get a brain.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by tpiah: 10:24pm On Oct 03, 2010
yorubas say baba njo an bere irugbon. The whole body is on fire you're asking what happened to the beard.

majoring in minors proves what exactly?

you'd rather the kids were still in the bush because foreigners will see the picture?

if they see it and so what? Anyone following the story would be aware of what happened.


irrelevant sensitivity.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by Mobinga: 10:33pm On Oct 03, 2010
tpiah:

abi were ni e ni?







the important thing is the kids have been found.

the next thing to ask is where are the kidnappers, not why werent the children gussied up as if the miscreants who snatched them took them to disneyworld.

can some of you get a brain.

grin grin grin You see yourself??
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by ezeagu(m): 10:38pm On Oct 03, 2010
tpiah:

what's the big deal about the children's dressing and/or appearance for goodness sake.

the important thing is they've been found.


too many daft threads on nairaland. gosh.

What don't you get? It's not hard to understand. The kids should have been allowed to rest off/see a doctor/get a check up before some useless politicians use them for a photo-op, for what, no one knows because they had little to nothing to do with their rescue. Have you ever seen a kidnap victim taking pictures with the police that rescued them just hours after the fact with everyone grinning like they were playing a game?
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by tpiah: 10:45pm On Oct 03, 2010
^^what are you people not getting here?

this kidnapping was high profile and generated a lot of attention  and condemnation from even international groups talkless nigerians.


the kids took a picture as soon as they were found. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I dont know how to explain the obvious to you lot?

they will bath and put on makeup later.

the right thing was done, which was showing[b] everyone [/b] the kids were recovered and safe. It's called breaking news which many of you have never heard of before it seems.


a more important question is why are the kidnappers still roaming around free to strike again.

maybe when they kidnap a couple of you your eyes will open.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by koruji(m): 10:48pm On Oct 03, 2010
You don't even seem to understand what strawman argument means. Otherwise, you would not keep arguing with yourself!

You must be either drunk or blind, "spiritually" speaking, to translate the issue with that photo into "you'd rather the kids were still in the bush because foreigners will see the picture?". If you don't get it, I 'd rather the governor and his cohorts not add to the abuse the kids received from the kidnappers.

Do you happen to have any kids? Would you be happy with the governor displaying your rescued kid in that way? Almost all the kids had no shoes, one was wearing a wrapper, they all looked scared and obviously in bad shape. I guess you would be on here defending the governor if one of those was one of your kids, instead of being a beneficiary of a corrupt system.
We are talking here about a 3 year old who is just learning to articulate the words "I want to go to the toilet" being kept in captivity for days, and the first thing a governor does is put national colors on his well-fed body and take a photo op.

Please come up with one positive thing achieved by that photo op, and let's compare to the negative contrast it provides us between the ruler and the ruled in the Nigeria of your dreams. This is not the Nigeria of my dreams. Get it?

You would have made a good assistant to Yar'adua's Attorney General - you know the one that told us how a "missing president" was nothing to worry about, because the law did not require him to exercise his authority territorially. Shame on you!

tpiah:

yorubas say baba njo an bere irugbon. The whole body is on fire you're asking what happened to the beard.

majoring in minors proves what exactly?

you'd rather the kids were still in the bush because foreigners will see the picture?

if they see it and so what? Anyone following the story would be aware of what happened.


irrelevant sensitivity.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by ezeagu(m): 10:53pm On Oct 03, 2010
tpiah:

^^what are you people not getting here?

this kidnapping was high profile and generated a lot of attention  and condemnation from even international groups talkless nigerians.


the kids took a picture as soon as they were found. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I dont know how to explain the obvious to you lot?

they will bath and put on makeup later.

the right thing was done, which was showing[b] everyone [/b] the kids were recovered and safe. It's called breaking news which many of you have never heard of before it seems.


a more important question is why are the kidnappers still roaming around free to strike again.

maybe when they kidnap a couple of you your eyes will open.

Show us where kidnapped children have been taken by a governor to take picture immediately after they were released, even kidnapped adults or even animals.

Who said anything about their appearance being the main issue?

You don't even get it. No wonder such a thing could happen in the first place when Nigerians think like this, you can see the kids looked confused and traumatised but according to you what's most important is not their well being, but making sure Nigerians that have nothing to do with them know they were found, it's not enough for family, friends and loved one to make sure they're okay. You don't even consider privacy and if the parents wanted their children's picture taken. They must take picture for "breaking news" before we even know if any of them has a serious problem from being in the bush filled with hardened criminals. This sense is the most. . . . . in short. . . . .
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by koruji(m): 10:55pm On Oct 03, 2010
tpiah:

^^what are you people not getting here?
the kids took a picture as soon as they were found. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

Did you just write "[size=14pt]the kids took a picture as soon as they were found.[/size]" Double shame on you. Now it is the kids fault. You are proving to be an original block head. Sorry for you. The "kids took a picture"? 3 year old was just released by kidnappers and the first thing he/she did was look for photographers.

Even if you were to excuse the governor and his friends for ignorance, one might say maybe. But you actually are suggesting that nothing is wrong with that photo, not that it was not done out of vested interest!

Nigeria is indeed far from rescue from its real kidnappers, and tpiah is in league with them it seems. Give it up tpiah!
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by Mobinga: 10:58pm On Oct 03, 2010
koruji:

Did you just write the kids took a picture as soon as they were found Double shame on you. Now it is the kids fault. You are proving to be an original block head. Sorry for you. The "kids took a picture"? 3 year old was just released by kidnappers and the first thing he/she did was look for photographers.

Even if you were to excuse the governor and his friends for ignorance, one might say maybe. But you actually are suggesting that nothing is wrong with that photo, not that it was not done out of vested interest!

Nigeria is indeed far from rescue from its real kidnappers, and tpiah is in league with them it seems. Give it up tpiah!
Triple
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by tpiah: 11:02pm On Oct 03, 2010
koruji:

Did you just write "[size=14pt]the kids took a picture as soon as they were found.[/size]" Double shame on you. Now it is the kids fault. You are proving to be an original block head. Sorry for you. The "kids took a picture"? 3 year old was just released by kidnappers and the first thing he/she did was look for photographers.

Even if you were to excuse the governor and his friends for ignorance, one might say maybe. But you actually are suggesting that nothing is wrong with that photo, not that it was not done out of vested interest!

Nigeria is indeed far from rescue from its real kidnappers, and tpiah is in league with them it seems. Give it up tpiah!

you're just an illiterate and it's actually a waste of time engaging you in a discussion.


NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PHOTO.

END OF.

if it annoys you, JUMP OFF A BRIDGE.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by koruji(m): 11:35pm On Oct 03, 2010
No! It is the like of you that Nigerians must push over the bridge if they are ever to be truly free!

tpiah:

you're just an illiterate and it's actually a waste of time engaging you in a discussion.


NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PHOTO.

END OF.

if it annoys you, JUMP OFF A BRIDGE.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by tpiah: 2:36am On Oct 04, 2010
better jump off a high cliff if the matter pain you pass.


common sense is so uncommon!

ode buruku.

na your type dem suppose kidnap.

or maybe you're a kidnapper who knows.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by koruji(m): 3:11am On Oct 04, 2010
You must be either drunk or blind, "spiritually" speaking, to translate the issue with that photo into "you'd rather the kids were still in the bush because foreigners will see the picture?". If you don't get it, I 'd rather the governor and his cohorts not add to the abuse the kids received from the kidnappers.

he he he the above is my answer for you. Keep it up!

tpiah:

better jump off a high cliff if the matter pain you pass.
common sense is so uncommon!
ode buruku.
na your type dem suppose kidnap.
or maybe you're a kidnapper who knows.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by MaziUche0(m): 3:27am On Oct 04, 2010
ORJI THAT SOB! I hate him like no other.

T.A. Orji ekwensu rasikwa gi anya!
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by tpiah: 5:45am On Oct 04, 2010
koruji:

he he he the above is my answer for you. Keep it up!


the entire region was on lockdown, with armed soldiers looking for these kids everywhere, and your major problem is why werent the children primped and polished before photos were taken?
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by Katsumoto: 9:04am On Oct 04, 2010
tpiah:

the entire region was on lockdown, with armed soldiers looking for these kids everywhere, and your major problem is why werent the children primped and polished before photos were taken?

I think you are missing the argument here tpiah. I am sure every one is happy that these helpless kids were found. Some of us have an issue with the shameless and opportunistic photo-shoot by the irresponsible adults in that picture. The only way that picture could have been justified is if the kids were smiling and happy to be free while the adults were the ones who actually found them and were saddened by the situation the kids were involved in.

The kids were probably found in a forest; in a civilised society, they should have been sent to n hospital or clinic of some sort where they would have been fed, washed, and clothed. Since we know that we are ruled by inhumane beasts, the kids should at least have been sent home to their parents in the absence of proper care by the authorities. A photo-shoot was wrong and miscalculated and only highlights the mindsets of our 'imposed' leaders.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by RichyBlacK(m): 9:34am On Oct 04, 2010
@koruji,

Thanks for your apt observation. Nigeria is a sick nation.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by Litmus: 9:36am On Oct 04, 2010

tpiah

NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PHOTO.

END OF.

if it annoys you, JUMP OFF A BRIDGE.



Me dear, some people  underestimate Nigerians . Like the propagandists in that fairytale who brainwashed the people of the realm with the claim that their king has on a suit of  of gold when  in fact he was unclothed,  they think that they can just select, arbitrarily, X,Y and Z and claim it illustrates the deviancy of Nigerians  and we'd all just fall for it.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by tpiah: 4:43pm On Oct 04, 2010
Katsumoto:

I think you are missing the argument here tpiah. I am sure every one is happy that these helpless kids were found. Some of us have an issue with the shameless and opportunistic photo-shoot by the irresponsible adults in that picture. The only way that picture could have been justified is if the kids were smiling and happy to be free while the adults were the ones who actually found them and were saddened by the situation the kids were involved in.

The kids were probably found in a forest; in a civilised society, they should have been sent to n hospital or clinic of some sort where they would have been fed, washed, and clothed. Since we know that we are ruled by inhumane beasts, the kids should at least have been sent home to their parents in the absence of proper care by the authorities. A photo-shoot was wrong and miscalculated and only highlights the mindsets of our 'imposed' leaders.


the whole world knew about the kidnappings.


jollying the kids beforehand was what would have sent a wrong message.

people needed to see the children were recovered and safe and as such the photos were in order.

try to put your personal dislike of the governor aside for one moment and focus on the bigger picture.

even Unicef made a statement condemning the kidnapping.

looking pretty is not the priority in this instance. That would even throw suspicion on the whole saga.

the children will receive medical care afterwards. At least thank God there were no critical injuries seen on any of them although the psychological trauma remains.
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by DHD: 5:43pm On Oct 04, 2010
Good that the kids have been found
Re: A Truly Shameful Nation by Beaf: 6:25pm On Oct 04, 2010
In most countries, the identities of the children would be protected by law, so long as they are alive and underage. It would be against the law to take their pictures, talkless of publish them in the national press.
The picture goes to show the main problem we have in Nigeria, the complete lack of love for one another and it was all packaged in our green - white - green. What a country! embarassed

The kids had just been through a harrowing experience that would be with them for life, they look hungry, tired, bewildered and unloved. Some are not wearing proper clothes (I shudder to think why), just one is in shoes. After this sort of trauma, they could have done with a little love, food and parental kisses and embraces. But we have instead, the ritualist governor of the state keeping them in their wretched state, while he powdered up for a troubling photo. Notwithstanding their trauma and tender ages, the governor could dress nice, phone up a few people to dress nice as well, and equip them all with sashes in our national colours. . . And that man is meant to be the leader of his state and a father figure to be looked up to? Nigeria and Nigerians have a long way to go. Is it a wonder why kidnappers are the law in his state?

I read someones pathetic attempts to compare some of George Bushes photo's with the near abomination the Abia gov engaged in and can only shake my head at the depth of ignorance in some people. Some are so far down in ignorance that they will never believe that that their situation is dire. the average Nigerian is a slave, but is too traumatised to realise their slavery.

Is the gov of the state not the very same person in the video below? Any surprises?

[flash=400,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_eHbzBZPnA&feature=related[/flash]

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