9jaRealist:


Yes, there is....

DISCOs cannot generate power. They are only licensed to distribute power. Therefore, they can distribute (but NOT generate) alternative power supplies. Meanwhile, any potential investor in generation (including GENCOs) will require separate licenses and permits to construct and operate renewable energy plants of more than 30MW capacity (see current NERC regulations).
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deomelo:




The GENCOs should be rolling out all kinds of products from wind energy to solar and so on, but they can not because they are chronically in debt and the DISCOs on the other hand can not pay for energy deliveries because they are also poor and in debt so how do you encourage the average energy investor to invest in our power sector.

9jaRealist:


I’m not a solar energy salesperson...
But if you take a LONG TERM view, it’s probably the CHEAPEST form of energy.
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9jaRealist:


Dangote Cement uses coal to power some of its plants...
However, coal is mostly ‘dirty’ power and to make it safe is often not cost-efficient.
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CodeTemplar:

Old dog hardly learn new tricks, still always trying to win arguments with irrelevant facts instead of addressing issues for what they are.
Who is arguing with you about definition of privatization?

Listen to yourself. You are not making sense yet.

That bold part is super dumb idea. You don't mandate a gas turbine owner to start generating solar or wind energy the way you are suggesting. This is a forum and not a occult meeting or dictatorship setting where they order to do things out of a general consensus or assumption.

Are you going to give the solar owner interest free loans to start a solar factory of farm?

lol....So, you are a GENCO and your job is power generation, but you can not make any money or generate any power because you depend on Gas that's not always available for tons of reasons to power your gas turbine, as a business man, do you need other people to tell you to diversify your operations by investing in other power generation methods with zero need for gas, like Solar and Wind? Is this not common sense and sound business decision? Do I have to tell you or explain this to you and even when they offer such suggestion, it is dictatorship?

This is why I hate getting into any back and forth with you Igbos.

Abeg go away, don't dull my brain with your elementary argument.

danjumakolo:

Nigeria can recycle the byproducts from coal.The most dangerous amongst it's end product is sulfur dioxide (SO2).
I think the flue gas can be channeled and compressed into a tank such that when oxygen is passed through,the sulfur dioxide can be gotten.In my sec school,I know SO2 is used to produce Hydrochloric Acid(Contact process) which in turn is used as an industrial chemical.

I can design a chemical reactor of the above process.its not rocket science

CodeTemplar:
Stop passing the buck to me. You back up your claims of lack of such facilities or show us the GENCOs lacking them outrightly.

deomelo:

Stop gyrating all over the place because you can not read and comprehend.

I know the difference between GENCOs and DISCOs and what they can or can not do so stop creating irrelevant argument.

The privatization model the past administration saddled us with is what's still in effect. If this model is not working, change the law, buy out their contracts and start from scratch.

deomelo:



lol....So, you are a GENCO and your job is power generation, but you can not make any money or generate any power because you depend on Gas that's not always available for tons of reasons to power your gas turbine, as a business man, do you need other people to tell you to diversify your operations by investing in other power generation methods with zero need for gas, like Solar and Wind? Is this not common sense and sound business decision? Do I have to tell you or explain this to you and even when they offer such suggestion, it is dictatorship?

This is why I hate getting into any back and forth with you Igbos.

Abeg go away, don't dull my brain with your elementary argument.

9jaRealist:




How can I show you what I clearly stated does NOT exist?

Conversely, quoting you verbatim “the structures to supply it are already there”, so please specifically cite said structures. We’er waiting.

9jaRealist:


Will not dignify the childish personal insults...

Your question was actually “[d]o we even have to tell the GENCOs and DISCOs to diversify and get into wind, solar and so on?”
My response/comment was limited to that, and frankly befuddled why any rational being would think that precludes changing the law. SMH
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CodeTemplar:
Dumb again. Will they use stone or money to diversify?

tactius:
Ok...I know I'm going to be called names for this, but here goes

If we want power to work...government has to allow the DISCOS charge for power. YES...power will cost a lot. YES...we would be paying N30000 and above per month. And the DISCOS should meter everyone(which is what is happening with MAP by the way).

But the thing is POWER IS PRIVATE....and POWER is now a business.(and ironically Chidioka's government was the one responsible for privatising power). And the reason why we are only seeing 5-6 hours of light per day...is because THAT IS WHAT OUR BILLS CAN PAY FOR.

Let's be realistic.

Hearme:


Hmmmmmm you want to use minimum wage to pay for power alone, you no go chop, children no go go school? LOL

9jaRealist:


I don’t think Mr. Chidoka was actually “lamenting” this development....
That adjective seems to be a mischaracterization of his tweet by the OP.
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Enosa1:
The truth is that the average Nigerian feels entitled to power supply, many people are fond of bypassing the prepaid meter and also DISCOS are not ready to invest money into improving the power sector, all they are interested in is profit making.

Anyway solar energy is the best available solution to epileptic power supply in Nigeria for now. Many people consider the initial cost of setting up solar system and conclude that it's expensive. They forget that the cost of fueling and maintain generator for three month exceed the cost of installing solar.

We at SolarDuke Electrical is here to serve you.
Email us on solarduke01@gmail.com

9jaRealist:


Can you say the same for the Nigerian military, police or MDAs?
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tactius:
Ok...I know I'm going to be called names for this, but here goes.

Several years ago, we privatised power...and since then power has been in private hands.

And one of the biggest problems has been financing. Yes, financing of power.

A lot of Nigerians don't pay for power. Add the fact that the bills we are paying are set below the actual cost of power. This has driven away investors, and we fail to attract new ones.

As a result, DISCOS and GENCOS don't have enough money. Last year, one of the DISCOS gave up and handed back over to the government because it was not making enough money to do business properly.

And the fact is, millions of Nigerians feel ENTITLED to free power. You know, if you guys were running businesses, and people came in and took your products for free...you would be wiped out financially.

If we want power to work...government has to allow the DISCOS charge for power. YES...power will cost a lot. YES...we would be paying N30000 and above per month. And the DISCOS should meter everyone(which is what is happening with MAP by the way).

But the thing is POWER IS PRIVATE....and POWER is now a business.(and ironically Chidioka's government was the one responsible for privatising power). And the reason why we are only seeing 5-6 hours of light per day...is because THAT IS WHAT OUR BILLS CAN PAY FOR.

Let's be realistic.

CodeTemplar:
You are the one to show which GENCO is lacking the facilities. You implied that first.

bilulu:

that is the business of the DISCOs if they can not collect their money. it's mostly like that because those places ain't metered. the moment you meter dem Bros they will be forced to buy power once they re out of card

deomelo:

Don't blame your inability to read and comprehend simple English words on other people, I said "The GENCOs should be rolling out all kinds of products from wind energy to solar and so on, but they can not because they are chronically in debt and the DISCOs on the other hand can not pay for energy deliveries because they are also poor and in debt"

I was talking about improving their current operations, not for them to cross into each others areas of business. Learn how to read and comprehend.

What's that got to do with laws and changing laws? Do they have to change laws before GENCOs build solar plants and install wind turbines to generate power or for the DISCOS to invest and improve their operations? Exactly what laws must be changed for that to happen?

Encroaching into each others areas of business like GENCOs distributing instead of generating and vise versa, that's a different topic and argument, start your own topic to discuss that.

And where is the crime and offence in advising them to diversify to better their operations and serve Nigerians properly?

Is adapting and looking for better market opportunities not part of doing business?

If you have nothing better to discuss, please go away, I don't have time for silly and pointless argument.

AmazonTopaz:
Electricity provision in this country has failed.
Oil producing nation cannot boast of 24 hours power supply.

Everybody is going solar

9jaRealist:


Again, pass me with CHILDISH personal insults...
Shows a lack of substantively meritorious argument or a crude/poor upbringing. Either way, thanks but no thanks.
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The GENCOs should be rolling out all kinds of products from wind energy to solar and so on, but they can not because they are chronically in debt

deomelo:

Again, stop blaming your inability to read and comprehend on other people.

I said The GENCOs should be rolling out all kinds of products from wind energy to solar and so on, but you put your own mouth talking about license.

Do the GENCOs need extra or special license to generate energy from other sources? Is their primary role not power generation or they need extra license to do their job?

Childishness was you coming up with irrelevant and redundant argument about DISCO's and DISCOs obtaining licences before doing what they are already are licensed to do.

Next time, read and comprehend before inserting your own side, off topic and irrelevant argument

9jaRealist:


Yaaaaawwwwwnnnn...
Boring childish drivel!
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deomelo:
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lol...

Coming from a can't read and comprehend childish joker.

What's next? I need a license to walk even though I walk without a license?

Too many childish jokers on NL I swear..

9jaRealist:


Bye Felicia!
Haba, na by force?
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deomelo:
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I was actually wondering if quoting me with your can't read and comprehend childish license rubbish was by force..

Hey, do I also need a license to post on NLL even though I've been posting all day?

You should try comedy even though you suck at it..

9jaRealist:


Sounds like you’re desperate to suck something else. Bye Felicia! Don’t play for your team...SMH
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