Dantedasz:


Acts of Apostles chapter 11 verses19-26. KJV

Aside from this I would humbly advise you to stick to the topic in your OP. In the classical method of religionist you have been jumping all over the place on this thread.

I understand you well, but the aim is to share the truth to others who will recognize it. Thank you

LordReed:


It would have been nice if there was a god or gods available to have mercy. Maybe then our world would not be so fućked up.

The True Living God, His Mercies are new every morning, I don't think you know how much mercies we are receiving at the moment in this world, even with our rebellion. He could have destroyed us all, but He is Merciful, He doesn't want us to perish, why do you think He sent His Only Begotten son to Earth, To save us from Death(Eternal) and save our soul from perishing. We are in the end time - The Truth.

FemiEddy:

The True Living God, His Mercies are new every morning, I don't think you know how much mercies we are receiving at the moment in this world, even with our rebellion. He could have destroyed us all, but He is Merciful, He doesn't want us to perish, why do you think He sent His Only Begotten son to Earth, To save us from Death(Eternal) and save our soul from perishing. We are in the end time - The Truth.

I do not believe there is an all powerful being watching its so-called creation get raped, tortured and killed in gruesome ways every single day for thousands of years and thinks intervention is to be reserved for some unknown date. It's a disgusting thought.

LordReed:


I do not believe there is an all powerful being watching its so-called creation get raped, tortured and killed in gruesome ways every single day for thousands of years and thinks intervention is to be reserved for some unknown date. It's a disgusting thought.

I agree perfectly with you, but do you accept that all these acts are done by our fellow men, do you accept that we are our own problem?

FemiEddy:

I agree perfectly with you, but do you accept that all these acts are done by our fellow men, do you accept that we are our own problem?

Yes, I do.

LordReed:


Yes, I do.

Hmm, what do you think makes our fellow men to do all those things, murder, rape, hate etc. What do you think is the cause?

FemiEddy:

Hmm, what do you think makes our fellow men to do all those things, murder, rape, hate etc. What do you think is the cause?

Various reasons. Psychological problems, brain tumors, bad influence, bad upbringing, bad environment, bad choices, etc.

LordReed:


It would have been nice if there was a god or gods available to have mercy. Maybe then our world would not be so fućked up.

LordReed..I would like to challenge you to an open debate on the Existence of God and also on Christianity vs Atheism.
Interested?

LordReed:


Various reasons. Psychological problems, brain tumors, bad influence, bad upbringing, bad environment, bad choices, etc.

Hmm, true, what do you think is the source of all this if we decide to search deeply?

chijokz:

LordReed..I would like to challenge you to an open debate on the Existence of God and also on Christianity vs Atheism.
Interested?

Interesting. What format will this debate take?

FemiEddy:

Hmm, true, what do you think is the source of all this if we decide to search deeply?

What do you mean search deeply?

LordReed:


What do you mean search deeply?

If we try to find the source, what pushes man to all this things, what propels them to do all this act? What can we say? Everything always have a source, an Origin, everything. Things just doesn't occur.

Like, when I was a kid, no one taught me how to lie, I just did. Natural.

FemiEddy:

If we try to find the source, what pushes man to all this things, what propels them to do all this act? What can we say? Everything always have a source, an Origin, everything. Things just doesn't occur.

Like, when I was a kid, no one taught me how to lie, I just did. Natural.

Exactly that, natural. No supernatural. You naturally lie, you naturally steal, you naturally like sex, you naturally want to survive. There is no supernatural component in evidence.

LordReed:


Interesting. What format will this debate take?

Whatsapp for an introductory session and then open a thread for the debate. We'll need an unbiased and objective moderator..What do you think?

chijokz:

Whatsapp for an introductory session and then open a thread for the debate. We'll need an unbiased and objective moderator..What do you think?

Why WhatsApp? Why do we need a moderator? If we lay down rules and conditions, I don't see the need for a moderator.

LordReed:


Why WhatsApp? Why do we need a moderator? If we lay down rules and conditions, I don't see the need for a moderator.

Okay no moderator..We need rules.
1. No personal attacks or insults
2. Debaters should provide as much evidence as possible.

Add yours.

LordReed:


Exactly that, natural. No supernatural. You naturally lie, you naturally steal, you naturally like sex, you naturally want to survive. There is no supernatural component in evidence.

I said natural for a normal understanding, but for a deeper understanding, one would know it's the spiritual that controls the physical. I am happy you are familiar with the Bible, do you recall the story of the mad man that met Christ?

chijokz:


Okay no moderator..We need rules.
1. No personal attacks or insults
2. Debaters should provide as much evidence as possible.

Add yours.

Good start.

3. One topic at a time, don't deviate to something else unless you want to concede the point.

4. No invoking of supernatural consequences for points you either can't refute or can not muster an answer for.

5. No citing of fake sources or satirical material.

FemiEddy:

I said natural for a normal understanding, but for a deeper understanding, one would know it's the spiritual that controls the physical. I am happy you are familiar with the Bible, do you recall the story of the mad man that met Christ?

I do recall the story but it's just that, a story. You will need to show that it is real.

LordReed:


I do recall the story but it's just that, a story. You will need to show that it is real.

The Bible is real, Its not a fairytale as you say, its called the word of God. It is the Spirit of God that allows for the understanding of the word of God.
I have a link for you, check it out, its few words on the matter of The spiritual controls the physical. Please, check it out, You see say I don beg . After, you can come and attack me, am here my brother

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.wisdomonline.org/files/1878/You%2520Asked%2520for%2520It!%2520Part%25209.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiN8emlvPbjAhVYQUEAHYqAB8MQFjAGegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1lkgTt-9Dw6PnMSNKKDpED

FemiEddy:

The Bible is real, Its not a fairytale as you say, its called the word of God. It is the Spirit of God that allows for the understanding of the word of God.
I have a link for you, check it out, its few words on the matter of The spiritual controls the physical. Please, check it out, You see say I don beg . After, you can come and attack me, am here my brother

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.wisdomonline.org/files/1878/You%2520Asked%2520for%2520It!%2520Part%25209.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiN8emlvPbjAhVYQUEAHYqAB8MQFjAGegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1lkgTt-9Dw6PnMSNKKDpED

LMFAO! You are funny o! I ask for evidence to show the reality of the story and you offer a detailed explanation of the story. SMH

LordReed:


LMFAO! You are funny o! I ask for evidence to show the reality of the story and you offer a detailed explanation of the story. SMH

Do you expect me to take you back in time? Did you even read it at all after I plead? Havent you seen news about things found which more shows the bible true? Have u checked the mountains talked about in the bible? Have you check out Israel?

Do you just want to dwell on our own human knowledge and condemn every knowledge passed to you? Do you want to continue to doubt the existence of God or seek out the truth? Cmon my friend, we are to seek out the truth till the End.

FemiEddy:

Do you expect me to take you back in time? Did you even read it at all after I plead? Havent you seen news about things found which more shows the bible true? Have u checked the mountains talked about in the bible? Have you check out Israel?

Do you just want to dwell on our own human knowledge and condemn every knowledge passed to you? Do you want to continue to doubt the existence of God or seek out the truth? Cmon my friend, we are to seek out the truth till the End.

Have you checked out New York? New York exists therefore Spiderman is real.

LordReed:


Have you checked out New York? New York exists therefore Spiderman is real.

Ok my brother, but don't forget this "God's word is true whether we believe it or not, Human unbelief can not alter the character of God". Thank you for the conversation my friend , more blessings.

FemiEddy:

Ok my brother, but don't forget this "God's word is true whether we believe it or not, Human unbelief can not alter the character of God". Thank you for the conversation my friend , more blessings.

There is no god's words in the first place. It's all the words of men given the veneer of the divine. 20+ centuries should have made that clear already.

LordReed:


There is no god's words in the first place. It's all the words of men given the veneer of the divine. 20+ centuries should have made that clear already.

Isn't it strange and amusing that a so called omniscient and omnipotent being requires ordinary and puny humans to write out and say out its words?
Is this omniscient and omnipotent being illiterate and dumb that it needs humans to Express itself?

Dantedasz:



Isn't it strange and amusing that a so called omniscient and omnipotent being requires ordinary and puny humans to write out and say out its words?
Is this omniscient and omnipotent being illiterate and dumb that it needs humans to Express itself?

Exactly. Let there be light, let there be animals but no let there be book or let there be temple.

LordReed:


Exactly. Let there be light, let there be animals but no let there be book or let there be temple.

An omnipotent and omniscient being that can magically will everything into existence but strangely needs puny humans to Express its words for it.
The religious refuse to think and that is the first problem of religion because it makes you suspend reasoning for blind faith and rabid emotions.

LordReed:


There is no god's words in the first place. It's all the words of men given the veneer of the divine. 20+ centuries should have made that clear already.

When God wants to communicate with us, He uses fellow man like us. That's why even our savior Christ, is a son of man. Prophets are men, The Bible is written by men through the inspiration of God. I really don't intend arguing with you brother . But understand this fact, The ways of God are not the ways of man. Our mere human thoughts can't even phantom the Majesty of God. Only a fool tries to reason or search the way of God. Simple question, Where were you when the foundations of Earth was laid, where were you when He made the sun to shine by day and moon by night? What are we, we are mere mortal, created from dust. We are dust, We are nothing, God made us something, The knowledge of man Perishes with man. Only with Humility can we seek God. Or are we not made from dust? Everyone steps on dust, animals, poor and rich, that's a very important lesson, Humility is key. Do you know when I will die? Do I know? Do you know if I will sleep and not wake up tomorrow? You make me laugh my friend. As heaven is high above the earth, so is the way of God higher than ours. "God is in heaven, the earth is His Footstool, we are but like grasshoppers"
References - Bible

FemiEddy:

When God wants to communicate with us, He uses fellow man like us. That's why even our savior Christ, is a son of man. Prophets are men, The Bible is written by men through the inspiration of God. I really don't intend arguing with you brother . But understand this fact, The ways of God are not the ways of man. Our mere human thoughts can't even phantom the Majesty of God. Only a fool tries to reason or search the way of God. Simple question, Where were you when the foundations of Earth was laid, where were you when He made the sun to shine by day and moon by night? What are we, we are mere mortal, created from dust. We are dust, We are nothing, God made us something, The knowledge of man Perished with Him. Only with Humility can we seek God. Or are we not made from dust? Everyone steps on dust, animals, poor and rich, that's a very important lesson, Humility is key. Do you know when I will die? Do I know? Do you know if I will sleep and not wake up tomorrow? You make me laugh my friend. As heaven is high above the earth, so is the way of God higher than ours. "God is in heaven, the earth is His Footstool, we are but like grasshoppers"
References - Bible

This is why Yahweh doesn't know what man doesn't know because the only mouthpiece of Yahweh is man, not Yahweh himself. When Yahweh comes to declare himself then we can rapport, till then I am not believing in mythologies.

LordReed:


This is why Yahweh doesn't know what man doesn't know because the only mouthpiece of Yahweh is man, not Yahweh himself. When Yahweh comes to declare himself then we can rapport, till then I am not believing in mythologies.

You make me laugh my friend. My God is not a God of fools, I really apologize, but there is no other word I can use to describe the path you have chosen. Am sorry, not my words, but the Bible. I apologize

FemiEddy:

You make me laugh my friend. My God is not a God of fools, I really apologize, but there is no other word I can use to describe the path you have chosen. Am sorry, not my words, but the Bible. I apologize

LoL as usual when people like you cannot answer anymore, you use style to insult but use your bible as cover. Fake humility.