Blogfarms:
This oluwo loves to always be on the news... The guy de para... Too much money

Yahoo yahoo money

seguno2:


Does antibalaka mean anti peace
Otherwise why are you waking up trouble that is sleeping quietly?

the chief Imam of Iwo Emirate has dragged the Oba to Court praying that the court passes a resolution banning the Amir wannabe from leading jummat services.

This is the crux of the matter.

If Akannbi wants to be an Amir then he is the only one to lead Muslim prayers but the chief Imam is arguing that the Oba is not an Amir and so can not officiate or lead Muslims in prayer.

pinkPUSSY:


https://tribuneonlineng.com/233479/

He's a clown.
Always striving for attention

bennynaza:
Religion has completely messed up our traditional system.

At some point, most of our kids would not even know that we Africans had cultures and modes of contacting divinity before the Arabs and Europeans came and raped our civilizations.

Exactly! Same with technology too! They will never know gaming technologies such as ayo olopon and others, neither will they ever know our war technologies such as bow and arrow with charms and cutlasses, neither will they ever know the joy of having the whole population including women, moving about in flimsy loin-clothes! Also they will never know the joy of a good horse as mode of transportation for the rich or legmousine for the poor, and they'll never experience music being made on bamboo fluxes and goatskin drums since all they'll know is recorded digital music! ETC ETC ETC
Lastly they'll learn to hate their father (you) for not living in a remote part of the jungle in order to stay away from the foreign 'deculturisation' and for also participating in it by using a foreign language to comment on foreign technology with even more foreign technology (internet and phones)!! I weep for the future of some people's descendants in advance!

A ba so o, e de gba. Ka fi eniyan je lemomu ko tun ma du seriki

King of yahoo guys,just lead with your laptop sir

Ostrogoth:


Exactly! Same with technology too! They will never know gaming technologies such as ayo olopon and others, neither will they ever know our war technologies such as bow and arrow with charms and cutlasses, neither will they ever know the joy of having the whole population including women, moving about in flimsy loin-clothes! Also they will never know the joy of a good horse as mode of transportation for the rich or legmousine for the poor, and they'll never experience music being made on bamboo fluxes and goatskin drums since all they'll know is recorded digital music! ETC ETC ETC
Lastly they'll learn to hate their father (you) for not living in a remote part of the jungle in order to stay away from the foreign 'deculturisation' and for also participating in it by using a foreign language to comment on foreign technology with even more foreign technology (internet and phones)!! I weep for the future of some people's descendants in advance!

You nail it well, they want all from the white man but not their religion if at all it is! making allusions that makes little or no appeal to common sense.

Ostrogoth:


Exactly! Same with technology too! They will never know gaming technologies such as ayo olopon and others, neither will they ever know our war technologies such as bow and arrow with charms and cutlasses, neither will they ever know the joy of having the whole population including women, moving about in flimsy loin-clothes! Also they will never know the joy of a good horse as mode of transportation for the rich or legmousine for the poor, and they'll never experience music being made on bamboo fluxes and goatskin drums since all they'll know is recorded digital music! ETC ETC ETC
Lastly they'll learn to hate their father (you) for not living in a remote part of the jungle in order to stay away from the foreign 'deculturisation' and for also participating in it by using a foreign language to comment on foreign technology with even more foreign technology (internet and phones)!! I weep for the future of some people's descendants in advance!

Sarcasm detected.
But I am sure you also understand my point. Nothing in history proves that the black man would not have advanced technologically had the whites and Arabs not interfered with our civilizations.

simplesearch:




You nail it well, they want all from the white man but not their religion if at all it is! making allusions that makes little or no appeal to common sense.

The Chinese are one of the most technologically advanced people on Earth. They did not nor ever needed to yield to European/ American imperialism. They got where they are on their own. We don't need to bow and submit to the will of the whites to improve our lives. Man is naturally innovative. Skin color regardless.

Ndi Afonja

Blogfarms:
This oluwo loves to always be on the news... The guy de para... Too much money

Which yeye money does he have.he just wants attention.simple

AntiBalaka:
Well, he is after all is the Amir of Iwo and as such is automatically the one to lead Muslim prayers.

Tell me one emir that leads the prayer even in the core north? Stop saying just anything coz u have access to the internet.

Yahoo money is still money

seguno2:


Yahoo yahoo money

He has money bro

ghuzy01:

Which yeye money does he have.he just wants attention.simple

Religion just too get wahala, Abu people took dey selfish I go say ... crazy people everywhere

bennynaza:


Sarcasm detected.
But I am sure you also understand my point. Nothing in history proves that the black man would not have advanced technologically had the whites and Arabs not interfered with our civilizations.

Am not saying we won't ever get there, but I'll have you know that much of Africa except for north Africa was at the stage that was equivalent to the European early middle ages/dark ages when the whites came. The scenario was similar: no well defined kingdoms, barbarian invasions, strong kingdoms raiding weaker ones for slaves, no written script (which is a very necessary ingredient for civilization) etc. Europe left that behind from around AD 1000. As for the Arabs, they've never had any desire to civilise anyone; all they've ever wanted is to get all that they can from the zanj slaves as they know the blacks to be and still do. It will interest you to know that Arabs exploited black Africa for hundreds of years for gold, ivory and slaves especially gold before the whites ever believed that Africa south of the sahara is populated by real humans instead of the dog like men who the Arab traders say are here in order to discourage European competition.
That being said, apart from the fact that we were about a millennium behind, human culture and technology have always been shared between different groups since humans started living on earth. The less always fades away for the better, eg stone tools versus metal tools, talking drum and smoke messages versus the social media we are using today. Cultures and religions and technologies were created by humans for human use, humans were not created by any of them hence their disposability!

bennynaza:


The Chinese are one of the most technologically advanced people on Earth. They did not nor ever needed to yield to European/ American imperialism. They got where they are on their own. We don't need to bow and submit to the will of the whites to improve our lives. Man is naturally innovative. Skin color regardless.

Maybe you never read about the boxer rebellion, or the complete overthrow of the Chinese royalty and chinese communism (both of which were influenced by European interference). Maybe you also dont know that the Chinese learnt bitter lessons about fighting against western influence on their culture during world war two when japan (who quickly adopted westernisation) almost wiped out their conservative asses (its like we refusing modernisation while boko haram uses the latest weapons)! Maybe you can point to a single Chinese technology which was invented independent of western civilisation's technological innovation.
My point is China has been an entity and a centre of civilisation as well as a melting point since at least around 200BC, yet they had to adapt modern technology in order to reach where they are today. Had it been they didn't, they would have succumbed to more advanced but smaller neighbors today who embraced it more willingly. I just imagine what we Africans would be today without westernisation! We would just be a giant safari continent to the rest of the world! Sel finit.

Ostrogoth:


Maybe you never read about the boxer rebellion, or the complete overthrow of the Chinese royalty and chinese communism (both of which were influenced by European interference). Maybe you also dont know that the Chinese learnt bitter lessons about fighting against western influence on their culture during world war two when japan (who quickly adopted westernisation) almost wiped out their conservative asses (its like we refusing modernisation while boko haram uses the latest weapons)! Maybe you can point to a single Chinese technology which was invented independent of western civilisation's technological innovation.
My point is China has been an entity and a centre of civilisation as well as a melting point since at least around 200BC, yet they had to adapt modern technology in order to reach where they are today. Had it been they didn't, they would have succumbed to more advanced but smaller neighbors today who embraced it more willingly. I just imagine what we Africans would be today without westernisation! We would just be a giant safari continent to the rest of the world! Sel finit.

So in summary, the black man would have been still primitive without the intervention of the white man?

Yoruba moslems

Ostrogoth:


Am not saying we won't ever get there, but I'll have you know that much of Africa except for north Africa was at the stage that was equivalent to the European early middle ages/dark ages when the whites came. The scenario was similar: no well defined kingdoms, barbarian invasions, strong kingdoms raiding weaker ones for slaves, no written script (which is a very necessary ingredient for civilization) etc. Europe left that behind from around AD 1000. As for the Arabs, they've never had any desire to civilise anyone; all they've ever wanted is to get all that they can from the zanj slaves as they know the blacks to be and still do. It will interest you to know that Arabs exploited black Africa for hundreds of years for gold, ivory and slaves especially gold before the whites ever believed that Africa south of the sahara is populated by real humans instead of the dog like men who the Arab traders say are here in order to discourage European competition.
That being said, apart from the fact that we were about a millennium behind, human culture and technology have always been shared between different groups since humans started living on earth. The less always fades away for the better, eg stone tools versus metal tools, talking drum and smoke messages versus the social media we are using today. Cultures and religions and technologies were created by humans for human use, humans were not created by any of them hence their disposability!

Referring to my original comment, kids ought not know nor imbibe the tenets of their heritage, but take up a foreigner's because it is according to you, superior?

bennynaza:


So in summary, the black man would have been still primitive without the intervention of the white man?

Remove all things western; from democracy and nation building to clothing type to agriculture to computer technology and ythe answer becomes obvious.

AntiBalaka:
the chief Imam of Iwo Emirate has dragged the Oba to Court praying that the court passes a resolution banning the Amir wannabe from leading jummat services.

This is the crux of the matter.

If Akannbi wants to be an Amir then he is the only one to lead Muslim prayers but the chief Imam is arguing that the Oba is not an Amir and so can not officiate or lead Muslims in prayer.

Many thanks for breaking it down into the details of the matter.

Blogfarms:
Yahoo money is still money

For those who don’t want to work on their farms but will foolishly complain about leadership for inflation, food scarcity and every other problem that they have inflicted on themselves?
How many of the yahoo yahoo money people have sustained their earnings for decades?
Do you have any capacity to think

bennynaza:


Referring to my original comment, kids ought not know nor imbibe the tenets of their heritage, but take up a foreigner's because it is according to you, superior?

Not necessarily superior but more effective especially technologies. We might preserve some but for how long? I bet the Yoruba I speak today will be unintelligible to the yorubas of 1919 and they'll probably feel like they are on an alien planet if they walked the earth today. My point is the world is already a global village; we gotta individually customize who we individually want to be from the plethora of available options as well as seek for ways to get ahead of the pack (just as Japan did technologically) instead of clinging desperately to a sinking past which will inevitably be sunk further and further by future generations just as our elders currently accuse us of doing. And no offense intended!

Ostrogoth:

Not necessarily superior but more effective especially technologies. We might preserve some but for how long? I bet the Yoruba I speak today will be unintelligible to the yorubas of 1919 and they'll probably feel like they are on an alien planet if they walked the earth today. My point is the world is already a global village; we gotta individually customize who we individually want to be from the plethora of available options as well as seek for ways to get ahead of the pack (just as Japan did technologically) instead of clinging desperately to a sinking past which will inevitably be sunk further and further by future generations just as our elders currently accuse us of doing. And no offense intended!

Stop confusing yourself, thinking you are confusing others, with your technologies diversion.
He talked about heritage/culture. Focus on that.

Ostrogoth:

Not necessarily superior but more effective especially technologies. We might preserve some but for how long? I bet the Yoruba I speak today will be unintelligible to the yorubas of 1919 and they'll probably feel like they are on an alien planet if they walked the earth today. My point is the world is already a global village; we gotta individually customize who we individually want to be from the plethora of available options as well as seek for ways to get ahead of the pack (just as Japan did technologically) instead of clinging desperately to a sinking past which will inevitably be sunk further and further by future generations just as our elders currently accuse us of doing. And no offense intended!

So in essence, you want emirates to replace the traditional stools in Yoruba land

Ostrogoth:

Not necessarily superior but more effective especially technologies. We might preserve some but for how long? I bet the Yoruba I speak today will be unintelligible to the yorubas of 1919 and they'll probably feel like they are on an alien planet if they walked the earth today. My point is the world is already a global village; we gotta individually customize who we individually want to be from the plethora of available options as well as seek for ways to get ahead of the pack (just as Japan did technologically) instead of clinging desperately to a sinking past which will inevitably be sunk further and further by future generations just as our elders currently accuse us of doing. And no offense intended!

Have the Japanese abandoned their heritage and culture because of technology that they developed?
What technology have we worked to develop here even
Do you know what you are talking about?

AntiBalaka:
So in essence, you want emirates to replace the traditional stools in Yoruba land

He is confusing technology with heritage/culture.
I wonder if he has no certificate like our president and his CJN

seguno2:


He is confusing technology with heritage/culture.
I wonder if he has no certificate like our president and his CJN

I am sure he prefers the Islamic institution to be in place in Yoruba land as he made it clear that a new cultural revival similar and aligned to Sokoto will be more beneficial in his global outlook.

You guys have too many inferior complexed Muslims ready to betray you again.

The Fulani downgrading of Yoruba Moslem is a ploy to have Yoruba Moslems to be their lackeys.

AntiBalaka:
I am sure he prefers the Islamic institution to be in place in Yoruba land as he made it clear that a new cultural revival similar and aligned to Sokoto will be more beneficial in his global outlook.

You guys have too many inferior complexed Muslims ready to betray you again.

The Fulani downgrading of Yoruba Moslem is a ploy to have Yoruba Moslems to be their lackeys.

Like Afonja for short term success that guarantees long term failure

seguno2:


Like Afonja for short term success that guarantees long term failure

Afonja's case is far better as he was blinded by greed and unrelenting ambition to occupy the throne.

These Yoruba Moslems are betraying you guys just to please their fulani lords.

Ostrogoth:

Remove all things western; from democracy and nation building to clothing type to agriculture to computer technology and ythe answer becomes obvious.

Excuse me, democracy isn't a western creation.
Several sections of my tribe, Igbo, practiced democracy at some reasonable levels before we knew white people existed. Agriculture is "all things western"? And if you are talking about the agro tech, we had tools too. And nothing suggests we wouldn't have improved on them as the years went by and necessity demanded.
Your argument does nothing towards answering my question, rather it exposes your western bias