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Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Nobody: 8:07pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fisfrank:

You like trouble oooo serosa, Is the current oba not from oranmiyan bloodline ?


Orianmiyan or what ever they call him is from BENIN.IFE AND BENIN HAVE NO REALTIONSHIP.
EXCEPT FROM THE RUN AWAY PRINCE THAT WAS FROM BENIN AND LATER BECAME A KING IN IFE.

NOTHING SERIOUS.

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Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by TAO11(f): 8:34pm On Sep 18, 2019
serosa:



Orianmiyan or what ever they call him is from BENIN

IFE AND BENIN HAVE NO REALTIONSHIP. EXCEPT FROM THE RUN AWAY PRINCE THAT WAS FROM BENIN AND LATER BECAME A KING IN IFE.

NOTHING SERIOUS.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

"Oranmiyan (is) from IFE" says Oba Ewuare 2 of Benin. Refer to timestamp 13:22.

"Oranmiyan ... is from Benin" says Serosa Bingo.

Any human being whose mind is still intact knows who to trust on Benin history between serosa (a.k.a. bingo) and Oba Ewuare 2.


Moreover, no Bini person ever became king among any Yoruba group, except among the Itsekiris.

And even the Itsekiri exception itself wasn't until centuries after Oranmiyan had already established the Ife-Yoruba dynasty in Biniland.

This Ife-Yoruba dynasty continues till date in Biniland even as I type, and even as you read this.

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Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 8:36pm On Sep 18, 2019
serosa:



Orianmiyan or what ever they call him is from BENIN.IFE AND BENIN HAVE NO REALTIONSHIP.
EXCEPT FROM THE RUN AWAY PRINCE THAT WAS FROM BENIN AND LATER BECAME A KING IN IFE.

NOTHING SERIOUS.
Agreed that that the runaway prince is from Benin, didn't the run away prince marry from ife woman ?

Is oranmiyan not carrying ife blood from his mum likewise his children ?

Aunty serosa later you will say you don't know why your mum marry a delta man, you see you have our stubbornness in Your blood.
Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by TAO11(f): 8:43pm On Sep 18, 2019
Fisfrank:

Agreed that that the runaway prince is from Benin, didn't the run away prince marry from ife woman ?

Is oranmiyan not carrying ife blood from his mum likewise his children ?

Aunty serosa later you will say you don't know why your mum marry a delta man, you see you have our stubbornness in Your blood.

There is no need agreeing to a blatant lie which no one has been able to substantiate.

On the other hand, this obviously false Bini forgery and propaganda of the 1970s have been debunked by historians the world-over, and have long been dismissed and forgotten in academia (as apocryphal, pseudo-historical, and unauthentic), except among Benin Nairalanders. grin


For example, the world-renowned scholar and expert of Benin History, Dmitri M. Bondarenko, of the Institute for African Studies in the Russian Academy of Sciences, writes and I quote here:

"Finally, there are the APOCRYPHAL versions of Benin oral tradition. ... (wherein) Ekaladerhan ... Some time later ... left Gwato for Ife."


D. M. Bondarenko continues:

"According to other versions of the kind, after leaving Gwato, Ekaladerhan founded another settlement, Ile-Ife and became her first ruler under the name of Oduduwa."


After having thoroughly combed through the different versions of this Apocryphal account, D. M. Bondarenko wrapped up his assessment of this account by noting that:

"However, a student of ancient Benin might feel obliged to REJECT the APOCRIOHAL versions without hesitation as deliberately UNAUTHENTIC. There are no their records made before the early 1970s ..."


This Apocryphal and unauthentic account which says that Ekalederhan became king in Ife are non-existent before the 1970s, he said.

He then puts the final nail in the coffin by submitting that:

"There is no doubt that the APOCRYPHAL versions are NOT AUTHENTIC and are not popular. Their authors are representatives of the nationalistically-minded part of the Bini intelligentsia who are seeking to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the socio political life of independent Nigeria ... Behind such PSEUDOHISTORICAL studies by intellectuals, as if harmless, one can make out serious problems for the country ..."


Refer for details to: Dmitri M. Bondarenko, "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30 (2003), pp. 67 - 68, Cambridge University Press.

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Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 9:09pm On Sep 18, 2019
Won't comment again on this topic. Thanks everyone
Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by TAO11(f): 12:39am On Sep 19, 2019
Fisfrank:
Won't comment again on this topic. Thanks everyone

As per my foregoing comments?

I'm glad you just accepted reality over fiction.

Congratulations!

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Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Sewgon79(m): 10:15pm On Dec 29, 2019
OKAY GUYS I MADE INQUIRIES.

AND THAT THRONE THAT ONNI OF IFE IS SITING ON IS NOT THE ESAMA OF BENIN THRONE.


ITS A WELL RESEVERED THRONE FOR TRADITIONAL RULERS THAT VISIT THE ESAMA OF BENIN.



AND THE ESAMA OF BENIN IS QUITE HIGHER THAN THE OONI OF IFE.

JUST THAT HE IS A CHIEF.

SO PEOPLE SAYING OONI OF IFE IS SITING ON ESAMA OF BENIN THRONE.
THATS A FAT LIE.

HE IS SITING ON A MERE COMMON CHAIR.

Your enquiry from wiki or edopedia or beninpedia. Shut up there
Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by chiefolododo(m): 7:41pm On Jan 26, 2020
SimDan95:
keep deceiving urself

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