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Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:53pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Okoroawusa: Can you show me who is in front? 1 Like
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Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Urchman200: 1:55pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
thesolutions:well done sir ,I know u are typing this rubbish from the comfort of ur home ,if only u understand what it means to fight for freedom u won't be typing nonsense like this . 2 Likes |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by thesolutions(m): 1:56pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe:According to you. Sowore is not the only Nigerian victimized by the government. how many of them have you protested for. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Wiifesnatcher(m): 1:56pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
SoNature: political contest and revolution doesn't just sound as a comrade Sowore putting his hand in politics really withdrew his activism in my own eyes and even doing revolution against his fellow and incumbent contestant really make me see his education as waste. even sowore wouldn't allow that but disobeying court order of his release really show Buhari is still living in 18 century, no wonder economy is retrogressing 1 Like |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Urchman200: 1:57pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
mu2sa2:y don't u go to prison so that u can become governor.nonsense 1 Like |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Neoteny(m): 2:07pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: http://saharareporters.com/2019/08/14/sowore-only-revolution-can-usher-genuine-democracy-nigeria There's nothing in that interview about peaceful revolution, but there's a lot about "Buhari must go". He used Sudan as an example, which was a revolution not against legitimate civilian government, but against a military dictatorship hell-bent on hijacking the democratic process for its political gain. And that protest became violent. So the question is: why is Sowore using the example of Sudan targeted at an illegitimate usurper to remove a validly elected civilian regime? There's no country where anyone will wake up and talk about removing a sitting elected civilian administration, peaceful or otherwise, and not be arrested and jailed for it. The only institutions allowed to change governments are elections, and the congress if the conditions exist for congress to remove the president. So your local Che Guevara is a perfect candidate for the gulag. 1 Like |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:12pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: What you posted here did not show Sowore calling for a violent protest. He gave an example of a dictator which Buhari is. Even though it is clothe with democracy falling by a peaceful protest. Unless calling for Buhari to step down means violent, I do not get your point. I have posted links of even democratic governments falling from protests. So please, tell me the crime of Sowore. 1 Like |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by cashkid: 2:13pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:14pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
thesolutions: What concerns me in saying Sowore leading a revolutionary protest is not a crime? I said Sowore did not commit a crime. Do you think he did or not? Trying to attack me does not make what Sowore did a crime. I repeat, Sowore did not commit any crime and I have laid my points. Do you agree or not? 1 Like |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Neoteny(m): 2:16pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: He called for a revolution against a validly elected government. If he believes the government is dictatorial or unfit to rule then he could write to his representative in NASS to take action, or sue the government for infringement of his rights. There's a limit to how far one can take one's grievance against an elected administration, and the laws of sedition and insurrection apply when one calls for the removal of that administration, or even organizes any movement calculated to disrupt and dislodge that elected administration. The issue of violence is immaterial to this discussion. Peaceful protests are allowed, calls for revolution are not. Protests pass a message, revolutions actively seek to remove. Your misplaced empathy is clouding your judgment...if you have any capacity to judge, that is. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Matt0z(m): 2:19pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
RedEagle: he didnt know what was coming |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by OlaPhils(m): 2:20pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Yoruba elders remain Silent. Shame on Yorubas who supported Buhari[ 2 Likes |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:21pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: A nonviolent revolution is a revolution using mostly campaigns with civil resistance, including various forms of nonviolent protest, to bring about the departure of governments seen as entrenched and authoritarian. Did you read this at all? What Sowore did is not against the constitution or international practices. So talking empathy and cloud judgement does not change the fact. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:23pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: This study examines experiences from the Americas (Brazil and Guatemala), Africa (Burkina Faso and South Africa), Europe (Romania), the Middle East (Lebanon), and East Asia (South Korea). Each case has involved street demonstrations described as historic in size and spread, and often in duration. Many of them have delivered significant results—in Brazil, Burkina Faso, Guatemala, and South Korea, they helped unseat presidents and other top officials and subject them to criminal proceedings. https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/04/12/fighting-hydra-lessons-from-worldwide-protests-against-corruption-pub-76036 Please, no crime committed. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:25pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: EU Reacts To Sowore's Arrest, Supports Peaceful Protests “The European Union stands firm on the principles of freedom of speech and our fundamental values. Of course, it is important in any democratic society for people to be able to participate." http://saharareporters.com/2019/08/08/eu-reacts-sowores-arrest-supports-peaceful-protests |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by SoNature(m): 2:25pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: The reason is that it paints him as a sour loser, who wants to ruin the government because he couldn't win the election. You don't revolt against a government you couldn't beat at the polls. By contesting, he is more of a politician than an activist. This is common sense. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Collins4u1(m): 2:26pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Godoverevery: Why are you confusing me with "is"... E dey worry you? |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by mu2sa2: 2:27pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Urchman200:Truth is bitter, isn't it. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:27pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
SoNature: Common sense is when you can not change the government through an election under the firm grip of the corrupt government, then you have another alternative to cause the change which is through peaceful protests. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Neoteny(m): 2:28pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: You don't even read what you copy and paste. Read: "Street Protests" What Sowore called his movement was "RevolutionNow" Revolution and street protest are NOT the same thing. You think words don't matter, legally? Everyone has the right to protest....no one has one to remove a sitting and elected government. If you believe Sowore or anyone else has the right to actively plan for the removal of an elected government then show me where that right is codified. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Neoteny(m): 2:29pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: Yet again..."peaceful protest" Sowore was arrested for calling for a "revolution". Not a "protest" |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Neoteny(m): 2:31pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: The onus is on you to prove he called for a "peaceful protest", or where he he says his protest was non-violent. And i can point you to a million articles where he said Buhari must go, and his aim is to remove buhari. How does he intend to do that? With a revolution! Also, the onus is on you to prove that a private citizen has the right to remove a sitting elected president. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:35pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: Sowore said “I would like to assure everyone that I am being treated well and in very good health. “I am pleased that the peaceful #RevolutionNow protests went ahead. “However, knowledge of the sheer number of innocent Nigerians being arrested for exercising their civil rights bothers me. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/omoyele-sowore-i-am-pleased-that-the-peaceful-revolution-now-protests-went-ahead/amp/ I wonder how Buhari must go means violence in you and Buhari's Vocab. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:37pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: Did you read what you quoted or just yapping? Many of them have delivered significant results—in Brazil, Burkina Faso, Guatemala, and South Korea, they helped unseat presidents and other top officials and subject them to criminal proceedings. https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/04/12/fighting-hydra-lessons-from-worldwide-protests-against-corruption-pub-76036 Read the bolded and enlighten yourself. These protesters committed no crime. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by asanwafo: 2:39pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Thegoodone13:That is why u don't just open ur mouth and talk trash cos as far as legal issues are concern, u are a novice. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:39pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Neoteny: A nonviolent revolution is a revolution using mostly campaigns with civil resistance, including various forms of nonviolent protest, to bring about the departure of governments seen as entrenched and authoritarian. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution Enlighten yourself. Calling for a revolution is not a crime. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:41pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
asanwafo: Sowore never talked thrash. It is just that we have executives committing crimes. If not the real criminals are the ones arresting and detaining Sowore. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Neoteny(m): 2:48pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
TheGoodJoe: There's no use arguing with an obtuse horse....something about taking a horse to a river but can't force it to drink. If you think you're justified in supporting lawlessness then there's no use beating a dead horse, so I won't keep horsing around while you whinny about copy-pasted articles that don't apply. So enjoy your horse-play alone. |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by frndfghtr(m): 2:57pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
mu2sa2:I think u are wright |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by litaninja(m): 3:02pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Prophet Fela talk say "Government Magic" |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by seunjungle1(m): 3:21pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
The condition you're right in is permanently yours, take care of your rubbi5h thesolutions: |
Re: Court Remands Sowore, Olawale Bakare, Co-Defendant In DSS Custody by Minjim: 3:28pm On Sep 30, 2019 |
Ipob judge Is she pretending not to know a judge had earlier granted him bail? |
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