The North can be a solid country if you guys work hard to build it up. He is right, you can be prosperous without oil. But you'll need to change your culture entirely, value education and school, stop oppressing your women and forcing them to get married early.

But all of this will require HARD work. It isn't as easy as just stealing money from the south that doesn't belong to you.

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DapoBear:

The North can be a solid country if you guys work hard to build it up. He is right, you can be prosperous without oil. But you'll need to change your culture entirely, value education and school, stop oppressing your women and forcing them to get married early.

But all of this will require HARD work. It isn't as easy as just stealing money from the south that doesn't belong to you.

thank u

pls try to explain to ijaws and the igbos ooo

DapoBear:

The North can be a solid country if you guys work hard to build it up. He is right, you can be prosperous without oil. But you'll need to change your culture entirely, value education and school, stop oppressing your women and forcing them to get married early.

But all of this will require HARD work. It isn't as easy as just stealing money from the south that doesn't belong to you.

Any country can succeed without oil. But unfortunately the North does not have what it takes to become a successful country. No be cause.

DapoBear:

The North can be a solid country if you guys work hard to build it up. He is right, you can be prosperous without oil. But you'll need to change your culture entirely, value education and school, stop oppressing your women and forcing them to get married early.

But all of this will require HARD work. It isn't as easy as just stealing money from the south that doesn't belong to you.

I am telling you this, Northern People are very easy to go by, if you explain to them (especially by righteous Scholars) that early marriage, oppression is totally UnIslamic, I am very sure they will understand, if I can understand that oppression of women is not right, why not other Arewa brother?

Why are you all against the north having their own country? . Stop being hypocrites!

chyz:

Why are you all against the north having their own country? . Stop being hypocrites!

Nobody in his right senses will be against the secession of the North.

alj harem:

thank u

pls try to explain to ijaws and the igbos ooo

It is only arrogance and anger and a bit of racism that will make one feel that the north will completely fall apart without southerners. And don't get me wrong, I've been guilty of this arrogance myself, so I'm pointing fingers also at myself.

I think secession would do you guys good, you'd wake up out of your deep slumber and actually start building a nation. Or at least, this is my belief.

But as I said, the main thing is that you guys have to get rid of these backward customs you have. For example, international agencies tried to eradicate polio in Africa, your leaders banned them from giving you guys vaccination to prevent the disease. Now polio is resurgent in northern nigeria.

You can have a good Muslim society. But you need to copy off of countries like Turkey, not ones like Sudan or Yemen. Turkey had this badass leader named Kemal Ataturk, who forced his people to reject backwards ways and accept modern life. With similar sorts of modern leadership and reform, you could do well.

If you do not find your Ataturk, and stick with your current backwards ways and reject Western education and knowledge, then you'll become like the Niger Republic.

chyz:

Why are you all against the north having their own country? . Stop being hypocrites!

they cannot leave when everything is going bad in the country. when the igbos want to leave, they stopped them so they are not leaving!!!!!!!!!

jason12345:

they cannot leave when everything is going bad in the country. when the igbos want to leave, they stopped them so they are not leaving!!!!!!!!!

No victor no vanquish. Let them leave. Insha Allah they will leave and have their own country.

chyz:

No victor no vanquish. Let them leave. Insha Allah they will leave and have their own country.

. okay. amen!!!!!!!!!

once they leave what happens? odua republic/biafra or southern nigeria?

jason12345:

. okay. amen!!!!!!!!!

once they leave what happens? odua republic/biafra or southern nigeria?

Anyone will be OK but i'll prefere a southern Nigeriann federation.

chyz:

No victor no vanquish. Let them leave. Insha Allah they will leave and have their own country.

amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just watch how nothern nigeria would turn out

jason12345:

. okay. amen!!!!!!!!!

once they leave what happens? odua republic/biafra or southern nigeria?

God will decide.

DapoBear:

It is only arrogance and anger and a bit of racism that will make one feel that the north will completely fall apart without southerners. And don't get me wrong, I've been guilty of this arrogance myself, so I'm pointing fingers also at myself.

I think secession would do you guys good, you'd wake up out of your deep slumber and actually start building a nation. Or at least, this is my belief.

But as I said, the main thing is that you guys have to get rid of these backward customs you have. For example, international agencies tried to eradicate polio in Africa, your leaders banned them from giving you guys vaccination to prevent the disease. Now polio is resurgent in northern nigeria.

You can have a good Muslim society. But you need to copy off of countries like Turkey, not ones like Sudan or Yemen. Turkey had this badass leader named Kemal Ataturk, who forced his people to reject backwards ways and accept modern life. With similar sorts of modern leadership and reform, you could do well.

If you do not find your Ataturk, and stick with your current backwards ways and reject Western education and knowledge, then you'll become like the Niger Republic.

To the bold part.

In 1996, an American Coy (Pfizer) conducted tests (trovafloxacin) on 100 children (ALL IN AREWA) five of whom died, with many others suffering life-altering injuries. Again they conducted another tests (ceftriaxone) on another 100 children (ALL IN AREWA) six of whom died, with many others suffering till now.

Since then, people of AREWA were afraid of giving out their children for any test or vaccine that comes from the West, (this is what will happen even if its another country, not Nigeria).

So, in early 2004, Shekarau announced the suspension of the vaccine "UNTIL INVESTIGATIONS ARE MADE" Physicians from all over NIGERIA and Outside NIGERIA conducted tests on samples randomly taken. The final result was that the tested Vaccines were okay. So the Governor ordered the vaccination to continue, and announce that the Vaccine is okay, the Emir himself vaccinated so many children in one Polio day, to show their acceptance. Since then people are accepting the vaccines, and so far, no problem is encountered.

FYI.

afam4eva:

Anyone will be OK but i'll prefere a southern Nigeriann federation.

ME TOO!

we are different in values and in culture but we have one aim and that is progress. i would also support a confederation in the south so that no group would feel marginalised. what do you think? but before that can happen, we need to forget about biafra.

chyz:

God will decide.

again, you are right!!!

Northern Nigeria has the potential.



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jason12345:

ME TOO!

we are different in values and in culture but we have one aim and that is progress. i would also support a confederation in the south so that no group would feel marginalised. what do you think? but before that can happen, we need to forget about biafra.

But it's not going to be easy with Igbos and yorubas in it. I propose a capital in Asaba which is in the Delta.

Ileke-IdI:

Northern Nigeria has the potential.



[s]They loff ooking like clowns more than anything[/s]

You really hate these people don't you?LOL.

chyz:

You really hate these people don't you?LOL.

Hate is a strong word lol
I hate no one.

afam4eva:

But it's not going to be easy with Igbos and yorubas in it. I propose a capital in Asaba which is in the Delta.

i think ur capital should still be in abuja

because we do not want it

afam4eva:

But it's not going to be easy with Igbos and yorubas in it. I propose a capital in Asaba which is in the Delta.

i don't think the yorubas will care about the capital. it can be anywhere as long as its neutral . so asaba would do fine.

the yorubas and igbos all around the world would be motivated to build the new country!!! it would be so exciting!!!

Ileke-IdI:

Akin-Egba = Mekusxzy man from Egba

Ileke Idi = Funmi something = FL gators

afam4eva:

But it's not going to be easy with Igbos and yorubas in it. I propose a capital in Asaba which is in the Delta.

but do you think the igbos can forget biafra?

jason12345:

i don't think the yorubas will care about the capital. it can be anywhere as long as its neutral . so asaba would do fine.

the yorubas and igbos all around the world would be motivated to build the new country!!! it would be so exciting!!!

even us would be very very exicted to build our country

alj harem:

even us would be very very exicted to build our country

i think the feeling is mutual. why don't the northern senators and representative pass a bill and split the country

jason12345:

i think the feeling is mutual. why don't the northern senators and representative pass a bill and split the country

that is the same question we been asking.

this leaders still want nigeria because of the oil money, that is all!!!!!!!!!!

why do think boko harem was formed

it is to cause the nigeria to be intolerant to to us and split

auwal87:

To the bold part.

In 1996, an American Coy (Pfizer) conducted tests (trovafloxacin) on 100 children (ALL IN AREWA) five of whom died, with many others suffering life-altering injuries. Again they conducted another tests (ceftriaxone) on another 100 children (ALL IN AREWA) six of whom died, with many others suffering till now.

Since then, people of AREWA were afraid of giving out their children for any test or vaccine that comes from the West, (this is what will happen even if its another country, not Nigeria).

So, in early 2004, Shekarau announced the suspension of the vaccine "UNTIL INVESTIGATIONS ARE MADE" Physicians from all over NIGERIA and Outside NIGERIA conducted tests on samples randomly taken. The final result was that the tested Vaccines were okay. So the Governor ordered the vaccination to continue, and announce that the Vaccine is okay, the Emir himself vaccinated so many children in one Polio day, to show their acceptance. Since then people are accepting the vaccines, and so far, no problem is encountered.

FYI.

You are completely correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trovafloxacin

To be honest, sometimes these drug companies do some very shady things. I shouldn't have made it out to be as simple as I did. They often look to cut costs by testing these things in Africa. If you test these experimental drugs in America or the West, then you can be sued if they cause harm. And the oversight is lot larger if you do your testing here.

I apologize for simplifying a complicated issue.

@afam

They do take life easier than people down south and I do not see how we can be united down south if the country should split into two.

DapoBear:

You are completely correct:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trovafloxacin

To be honest, sometimes these drug companies do some very shady things. I shouldn't have made it out to be as simple as I did. They often look to cut costs by testing these things in Africa. If you test these experimental drugs in America or the West, then you can be sued if they cause harm. And the oversight is lot larger if you do your testing here.

I apologize for simplifying a complicated issue.

Apology accepted!

By digging things down, you will know that things don't just happen without reason.

hercules07:

@afam

They do take life easier than people down south and I do not see how we can be united down south if the country should split into two.

I ddon't think we'll be that united because our history will continue to hunt us. But that cannot stop us from having a very good country devoid of problems.