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Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by 244443: 11:58pm On Nov 08, 2010
[size=8pt]PLS WHERE IS RABIU IBRAHIM? DAT GUY IS GOOD. I DONT KNOW Y HE IS NOT BEING CALLED. SIASIA SHUD PLS LOOK FOR HIM AND BRING HIM TO THE TEAM. HE MIGHT JUST BE THE PLAYMAKER WE AV BEEN LOOKING FOR[/size]
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by vubasms: 12:05am On Nov 09, 2010
Mikel this mikel that. y mikel all d time &d guy has been silent all this while even u say negative things abt him. Is samson siasia nw saying that all the players he took to holand in 2005 are all fantastic players at their various clubs in europe except for mikel? Is he also implying that as a coach residing in nigeria he has not discoverd players that can play d A.MFLD role? If i shld subject him with same kind of scrutney to which mikel has been made to go tru all these yrs i guess i will end up reducing the high expectations nigerians have bestowed on u.for instance during ur playing days,how many trophies did u lift? Y were u beating twice by d same country as national team coach at d under23 & olympic finals by agentina snc u already knew d way they play vn played them b4? If u r dat fantastic as a coach,y aint u been sourced for by clubs arnd d world? What did u do with heartland fc at CAF CHAMPION LEAGUE? I dont mean to demean our dear coach,my point is that d entire team has a problem,to single out one of the players he claimed to have discoverd for criticism for me its a little bit rash and mind u mikel was already playing for lyn oslo b4 drafted in2 d under 23 team by siasia. Mikel is doing well for himslf at his club and his coach is happy 4him & bck home here some of us are complaining. If mike is d only problem in our national team,i advice siasia to drop him as he did at the olympic which he eventually won-hp im right? Our coach shld focus on his new job,all d department in S.E of today is rusty & mikel is nt d problem either. I look forward 2d day we will talk about the current nigerian players that are in contention for this year CAF,EUROPEAN & WORLD FOOTBALLER AWARD with such names as adeleye,vanzekin,kaita,iseac promise,chinwo,taye taiwo,apam winning it eventually since mikel did nt make the list this year- abi this ones are not siasia boys too,so y Mikel all the time as if he is d only1 one dat makes up super eagles. Lets encourage ours jor.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by lexyman(m): 12:26am On Nov 09, 2010
till thy kingdom come ,mikel will only improve as a defensive midfielder not as an attacking midfielder, Fine !SIA1 discovered him but Chelsea converted him , now he himself has discovered the potentials he possessed as a player , he will do better in this present role and soon he will be the best watch out!!!! Bros siasia we have over one million mikel in Nigeria u can discover more and bring them to the super eagles , " keep your head straight and stay focus u can do it ", u can do it cool cool cool
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by Nobody: 2:44am On Nov 09, 2010
A lot of this has to do with the present psychological make-up of Mikel I reckon.

I'm certain he goes into games thinking to himself ''I'm not gonna score today''.

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy since by our thoughts we create our reality.

Essien doesn't go into games with that self-limiting thought.

Neither do Lampard or Ballack.

Mikel needs to sort out his mind, and thus, re-create his reality.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by supereagle(m): 4:21am On Nov 09, 2010
Sia concentrate on your job, Oyinbo coach must have seen what you did not see. Yobo started as a center forward , today he plays center back.


lexyman:

till thy kingdom come ,mikel will only improve as a defensive midfielder not as an attacking midfielder, Fine !SIA1 discovered him but Chelsea converted him , now he himself has discovered the potentials he possessed as a player , he will do better in this present role and soon he will be the best watch out!!!! Bros siasia we have over one million mikel in Nigeria u can discover more and bring them to the super eagles , " keep your head straight and stay focus u can do it ", u can do it cool cool cool


Siasia did not discover him, Chukwu and Eguavon used him in one U 17 tournament before siasia used him , Ganiu Salami must have discovered him.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by mystikal(m): 6:01am On Nov 09, 2010
Mikel is a better DM than he is an AM. So use him as a DM then.

btw, European clubs are stiffling the growth of African football. Majority of players from Africa are used mainly for their physical strength as Defenders or DM. African playmakers are becoming extinct.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by kannymoore(m): 7:16am On Nov 09, 2010
^^ thats so very true and on point.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by Ranoscky(m): 9:24am On Nov 09, 2010
vubasms:

during your playing days,how many trophies did u lift? Y were u beating twice by d same country as national team coach at d under23 & olympic finals by agentina snc u already knew d way they play vn played them b4? If u r dat fantastic as a coach,y aint u been sourced for by clubs arnd d world? What did u do with heartland fc at CAF CHAMPION LEAGUE?

Sick questions.

You made a good analysis and made some good point but things fell apart when you stated those comments above. Im also a fan to mikel but what Siasia said about him won't make me ask such questions. Mikel is a good and talented player, and no doubt, Siasia is the best Nigerian coach at the moment, so no need for long talk (such questions above), Just drop your opinion and leave, simple !!!
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by paulex: 9:27am On Nov 09, 2010
Hw wud u guys feel if mikel plays rubbish in d nxt 2yrs in an attemp to make him offensive? He's nt gettin any younger o, Fine, Morinho destroyed mikel. But d guy is one of d best DMF in futball. Do we hv a 4 in super eagle? Siasa is knw 2 b a gud coach. Abi? Let him find another OMF instead try 2 destroy mikel again. Pls leave mikel alone.!
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by baslone: 9:50am On Nov 09, 2010
paulex:

Hw wud u guys feel if mikel plays rubbish in d nxt 2yrs in an attemp to make him offensive? He's nt gettin any younger o, Fine, Morinho destroyed mikel. But d guy is one of d best DMF in futball. Do we hv a 4 in super eagle? Siasa is knw 2 b a gud coach. Abi? Let him find another OMF instead try 2 destroy mikel again. Pls leave mikel alone.!

Yet,didn't even make CAF's top 10 short list!
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by dyabman(m): 10:27am On Nov 09, 2010
If Alex song was in Mikel shoes in 2006 , he wouldn't have done any better or maybe worse than Mikel , so please lets stop the crap, and seriously Mikel doesn't look so offensive to me even in 2005, duh! undecided
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by baslone: 12:23pm On Nov 09, 2010
What is with this Alex Song anytime Mikel's name comes up! Personally,there's nothing
extraordinary in Mikel's style of play. He's just an average player, but maybe one of the
best in Nigeria's squad. Nothing more!
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by OlaRay4(m): 12:55pm On Nov 09, 2010
till thy kingdom come ,mikel will only improve as a defensive midfielder not as an attacking midfielder, Fine !SIA1 discovered him but Chelsea converted him , now he himself has discovered the potentials he possessed as a player , he will do better in this present role and soon he will be the best watch out!!!! Bros siasia we have over one million mikel in Nigeria u can discover more and bring them to the super eagles , " keep your head straight and stay focus u can do it ", u can do it


For all those fools who said he should have joined Arsenal, was Lauren a box to box midfielder at Majorca before he joined Arsenal and they turned into a right fullback! wasnt Giovanni Van Bronkhurst a central midfielder before he was turned into a left full back,

Was El Haji Diouf a striker before Gerald Houllier turned him into a winger?

Kolo Toure went from a left winger to a center half under wenger


Siasia should concentrate on what he is going bring to the party because he only has one chance and not 3 like Amodu

Crying over spilt milk could be his down fall because you dont hear the Brazilian coach moaning that they turned 2 attacking midfielders in Anderson and Lucas into work horse
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by joxiri: 1:36pm On Nov 09, 2010
ola ray how
can you say kolo toure went from left winger to centre half do you watch football at all, kolo toure went from being a defensive midfielder to being a defender. not a left winger
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by noru: 2:30pm On Nov 09, 2010
It was Austine Eguavoen that actually discovered Mikel along with Promise Isaac. They played under him at the U-16 world cup.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by omar22(m): 5:11pm On Nov 09, 2010


ola ray how can you say kolo toure went from left winger to centre half do you watch football at all, kolo toure went from being a defensive midfielder to being a defender. not a left winger


Kolo Toure was bought as a left sided midfielder or winger, then he was moved in middle still didnt work, then when Martin Keown was moved to the bench he was moved into the center half role!!!
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by OlaRay4(m): 5:15pm On Nov 09, 2010
@Omar


Spot on, I could remember when he arrived and Arsene said he is the strongest player at Arsenal and was a winger (not a typical Pires style but more like a left sided midfielder)
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by 1025: 5:33pm On Nov 09, 2010
PLS WHERE IS RABIU IBRAHIM? DAT GUY IS GOOD. I DONT KNOW Y HE IS NOT BEING CALLED. SIASIA SHUD PLS LOOK FOR HIM AND BRING HIM TO THE TEAM. HE MIGHT JUST BE THE PLAYMAKER WE AV BEEN LOOKING FOR

@244443,
IS THIS RABIU IBRAHIM A MUSICIAN OR A COMEDIAN? REALLY SORRY ABT MY QUESTION, WHAT DOES THIS RABIU DO? IF HE IS A FOOTBALLER, WHICH CLUB IS HE PLAYING FOR? IS HE THE CAPTAIN OF MBAISE BOMBERS OR ENUGU TRY AND SEE?

@topic,
someone said eguavon discovered mikel at the under 16 while siasia is here claiming his mikel has been ruined. i wish siasia will concentrate on why he has been made the coach of the super eagles and leave mikel to enjoy his God's given talents and wealth.
both siasia and equavon have met at least 1 million nigerian players in tgheir carrier as coaches, how come it is all about mikel everyday?
if out of 1 million, chelsea ruined 1, what happened to the other 9,999,999 other players?
i am begining to feel siasia is envious of this guy's achievements.
soon, we will hear siasia and other uninformed nigerian advise mikel to come and join enyimba super stars of aba so that his attack minded football will come back.
if mikel is the problem of nigeria and nigerian football, why did the eagles fail to win the world cup in south africa?


It was Austine Eguavoen that actually discovered Mikel along with Promise Isaac. They played under him at the U-16 world cup.

@noru,
uncle, if i remember very well, promise isaac was the captain of that team abi? where is he now? is he still playing football or has he joined AY in the comedy business? who ruined him? maybe wenger or abakiliki united? siasia has said abormination with his mouth and deserve to face the court.
with this statement alone, i have lost my respect for this gentleman.
as bad as eguavon was, he never made this kind of unacceptable statement.
in every team, there are different departments so why is mikel's position the biggest problem of nigerian? does it mean that those who play defence are goats?
who among all the coaches that mikel has played under in chelsea can be compared to siasia? what does siasia think he is and what did he achieve in his playing days especially at club levels? which big team did he break into in europe and which big coach did he play under?
coaching junior teams in nigeria can be easier because the guys are playing with their last strenght to see themselves through. now siasia is faced with the real test of coaching let us see if he will turn to a pressman or a coach.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by ojesymsym: 10:10am On Nov 10, 2010
I am not sure Siasia is saying Mikel is a bad player or that he has become a bad player under cheasea, he is simply saying compared to the abilities the young man showed in 2005, he is under achieving. If Kaita played half as much as mikel plays, he wud have been hailed as a good player, but for Mikel who showed so much promise and skills to now play as an average player, that is wat Sia1 is talking about.

Players get converted from one position to the other, but that is beside the point, the point is that if some one like Zidane had become a very good defender, we would have lost his attacking skills and attacking influence in matches.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by nairaman66(m): 1:16am On Nov 11, 2010
Siasia, concentrate on your newly found job! Stop making excuses, Ruined your mikel indeed, Soon you will be out in there streeets looking for another job if you dont control your basket mouth!
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by IbrahimB: 7:45pm On Nov 11, 2010
I'm not sure a coach can kill a player's "attacking instincts". Vermalaen, Gallas and Ivanovic are defenders but that hasn't affected their attacking "instincts". I'm even thinking Mikel should be taken back to defence as he's even too static for a DM - no offence.

I really don't know what Siasia is complaining about? The boy himself is not complaining and seems to be too happy to continue his sideways, reverse and short passes. I have a feeling Siasia would try to convert Mikel back to an attacking midfielder, in the process wasting so much of his time and energy. Amodu tried it without success.

He should rather concentrate that energy in developing AMs like Stanley Okoro, Lukman Haruna, Rabiu Ibrahim and so on.
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by tolubobo: 12:30pm On Nov 12, 2010
i totally agree with siasia ,mikel is a shadow of his brillant display in holland 2005 wyc.yes mikel is nowhere compared to messi his contemporary as at 2005.it is shame on us in Nigeria we rather love money at the expence of professionalism and excellence in our chosen careers
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by baslone: 1:23pm On Nov 12, 2010
Back then it used to be Mikel or Messi!

Today it's Mikel or Song! grin

Is this an improvement?
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by 12large1: 3:32pm On Nov 12, 2010
ta who comparing song to mikel song scores goals it should be
mikel vs otepa energy
Re: Chelsea Have Ruined My Mikel – Siasia by 1025: 5:22pm On Nov 15, 2010
i wish chelsea will come and ruine me like they did to mikel.
if siasia had the opportunity to be ruined by any top club in europe, i know he will not refuse to be ruined.
i also know that every nigerian player will be praying that they will be ruined like mikel in this football carrier.
one more useless talk like this one, u will loose ur respect in my hands and i will begin to see u like other basket mouths outside comedy.

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