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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by MasterGramnet: 3:26pm On Dec 06, 2019
pcguru1:


I don't believe in mentorship they will show you the way, but you will still have to read the book. Join reddit and follow algorithm threads, but try cracking the interview and also read multiple books to understand each algorithms and data structure, we still dey read am daily.
Don't Try To Make It Complicated. You're Saying The Same Thing, What's Your Point. Mentorship Shows You The Way(Yes, Is That All) & What Does Reddit Offers Too (You Still Also Have To Read The Book). Anyway, 4olow Your Own Believe. You Are There.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by pcguru1(m): 4:35pm On Dec 06, 2019
MasterGramnet:
Don't Try To Make It Complicated. You're Saying The Same Thing, What's Your Point. Mentorship Shows You The Way(Yes, Is That All) & What Does Reddit Offers Too (You Still Also Have To Read The Book). Anyway, 4olow Your Own Believe. You Are There.

I started with I don't believe because that's my experience, I feel rather than waiting for a mentor. He can self-learn.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by MasterGramnet: 5:49pm On Dec 06, 2019
pcguru1:


I started with I don't believe because that's my experience, I feel rather than waiting for a mentor. He can self-learn.
"Waiting"? Anyway, Suite Yourself. It's Okay.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Grandlord: 8:08pm On Dec 06, 2019
grin You guys it's okay.

TBH, I learn better teaching myself. Even when I was in medical school, I never attended those tutorials everyone was so fond of. I'd just go off and study till I crash grin
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by MasterGramnet: 9:42am On Dec 07, 2019
Grandlord:
grin You guys it's okay.

TBH, I learn better teaching myself. Even when I was in medical school, I never attended those tutorials everyone was so fond of. I'd just go off and study till I crash grin
Yea, Many Students Learn Better Teaching Themselves While Others Learn Better Learning From Their Friends Who Knows Better, Other Learn Better When After Graduation The Attend Other Tech(or Business Related To Their Demand), Tutorials, Mentors, Personnels, Friends Etc And Many More. In Any Way It May Seems To The Students, The Best Are Among The Options. I Know Of A Student Who Learns From His Friend But End Up Having The Best Position Overall. So, No Matta The Way, Don't Think You're Better Than The Person Learning From A Second Hand Option. That's Learning For You. Aside That, I Wondered Why People Want Things For Free Mostly When It Comes To Online Training.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Grandlord: 10:28am On Dec 07, 2019
MasterGramnet:
Yea, Many Students Learn Better Teaching Themselves While Others Learn Better Learning From Their Friends Who Knows Better, Other Learn Better When After Graduation The Attend Other Tech(or Business Related To Their Demand), Tutorials, Mentors, Personnels, Friends Etc And Many More. In Any Way It May Seems To The Students, The Best Are Among The Options. I Know Of A Student Who Learns From His Friend But End Up Having The Best Position Overall. So, No Matta The Way, Don't Think You're Better Than The Person Learning From A Second Hand Option. That's Learning For You. Aside That, I Wondered Why People Want Things For Free Mostly When It Comes To Online Training.
Sure, we learn differently. We only have to identify how best we learn and stick to it.

Well if you need a tutor, you have to pay. Boot camps in the US charge from 10-20k. No kidding.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 11:37am On Dec 07, 2019
pcguru1:


I don't believe in mentorship they will show you the way, but you will still have to read the book. Join reddit and follow algorithm threads, but try cracking the interview and also read multiple books to understand each algorithms and data structure, we still dey read am daily.
Many companies are riddled with self-taught amateurs who despite programming on salary for years they still lack fundamental knowledge of programming itself.
There are of course many self-taught programmers who made it well to the industry, and many are also working in big companies like Google, Microsoft etc. Actually following a tutor will only shorten your learning curve... some self-taught amateurs may likely spend 5 years on programming and still do not grasp the basic principles of programming, and they may not even know whether they are going forward or backward, in the end they may give up.
Of course having a mentor doesn't mean you will not read books because no one tutor can make you a professional programmer, you will need their guidance because whatever you will experience in your learning period they might have experienced it before you, also they have made some mistakes which you are likely to make in future, so you are still at an advantage over them.
In addition no man can learn in isolation.
I once created a WhatsApp group called Coding Ask and Answer CAA, many who joined the group admitted they never really knew what programming is about until they joined the group. They taught programming is all about building web applications... The group really changed people's view on programming. This is exactly what a mentor does, to guide newbies in the right direction.
In conclusion, you must read books and practice writing codes to become a programmer but if you have a mentor don't proudly reject his assistance.

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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by MasterGramnet: 12:32pm On Dec 07, 2019
Grandlord:
Sure, we learn differently. We only have to identify how best we learn and stick to it.

Well if you need a tutor, you have to pay. Boot camps in the US charge from 10-20k. No kidding.
Cool.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Starry321: 6:28pm On Dec 09, 2019
progeek37:


I discovered that the reason many people don't know algorithm and data structures is because they usually base their studies on YouTube videos and online coding courses. You can't learn programming principles with YouTube videos, it is never possible, I have not heard of any professional programmers who learnt all from YouTube videos or online courses. YouTube courses and online courses will give a quick grasp of the concepts but not a solid grasp. This is because no YouTube videos can provide you with adequate exercises and examples.
What I mean is to learn algorithm and data structures you need a textbook... printed or soft copy. I repeat you can't be proficient in handling algorithmic tasks without reading books from professional programmers and following their examples and solving their exercises... YouTube videos and online courses many give you a false hope of understanding programming principles when you do just few things the person who uploaded it did in 5hrs videos not knowing you are thousands of miles behind the full stuff.
To learn algorithm and data structures you inevitably need to read books and practice coding programming problems.
I recommend "The Art of Computer Programming" by Donald E Knuth[
He spent more than 2500 pages explaining algorithms and data structures and their importance to software engineering.
But don't rush to the book yet, start by downloading books on your favourite programming language. Try to solve all exercises.
Learn from me ---there is no book I have ever read without doing all the exercises, some take me few seconds, some minutes, some hours... some days, some even take longer time!
I repeat there is no other way to learn programming principles and algorithm and data structures apart from practising, reading alone is never enough. You need to practice, practice and practice no other way. You need time and patience, you will make mistakes, you will see many runtime errors, many compilation errors. You will fail, and fail and fail. At a point a point you will start experiencing the moment when things start becoming clearer and clearer and some problems that have given headaches previously will become a child's play. I'm speaking from experience.
If you are new to programming, you may consider joining my tutorial group. I give exercises that will you a sound understanding of algorithm and data structures. I also solve many problems live via Zoom app to teach participants how to tackle problems.
I'm new to programming. I have been trying to learn python because I'm interested in data science. But sometimes I see myself moving in circles. I can't focus on a particular learning material. From YouTube videos to online tutorials and back to books. It's been a rollercoaster. I don't want to get frustrated or lose interest. This is one shot I have to make meaning out of life. I need help bro. I really do. I would really love to be a part of your tutorials.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 11:14am On Dec 10, 2019
Starry321:

I'm new to programming. I have been trying to learn python because I'm interested in data science. But sometimes I see myself moving in circles. I can't focus on a particular learning material. From YouTube videos to online tutorials and back to books. It's been a rollercoaster. I don't want to get frustrated or lose interest. This is one shot I have to make meaning out of life. I need help bro. I really do. I would really love to be a part of your tutorials.
Contact me on WhatsApp: 08135683431
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 2:26pm On Jan 02
Join my tutorial and coding groups today, the tutorial is done via the Zoom app which allows sharing of computer screen and voice communication. For details please contact me on WhatsApp or call: 08135683431

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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Corussa: 10:15am On Jan 20
I want to join your data structure & algorithm class

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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by DanTheGeek(m): 12:55am On Jan 22
pcguru1:


I don't believe in mentorship they will show you the way, but you will still have to read the book. Join reddit and follow algorithm threads, but try cracking the interview and also read multiple books to understand each algorithms and data structure, we still dey read am daily.

Baba what's up with your Skype nah? Microsoft must've sent nukes to your PC :-()

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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by DanTheGeek(m): 12:58am On Jan 22
progeek37:

Many companies are riddled with self-taught amateurs who despite programming on salary for years they still lack fundamental knowledge of programming itself.
There are of course many self-taught programmers who made it well to the industry, and many are also working in big companies like Google, Microsoft etc. Actually following a tutor will only shorten your learning curve... some self-taught amateurs may likely spend 5 years on programming and still do not grasp the basic principles of programming, and they may not even know whether they are going forward or backward, in the end they may give up.
Of course having a mentor doesn't mean you will not read books because no one tutor can make you a professional programmer, you will need their guidance because whatever you will experience in your learning period they might have experienced it before you, also they have made some mistakes which you are likely to make in future, so you are still at an advantage over them.
In addition no man can learn in isolation.
I once created a WhatsApp group called Coding Ask and Answer CAA, many who joined the group admitted they never really knew what programming is about until they joined the group. They taught programming is all about building web applications... The group really changed people's view on programming. This is exactly what a mentor does, to guide newbies in the right direction.
In conclusion, you must read books and practice writing codes to become a programmer but if you have a mentor don't proudly reject his assistance.

Apart from mentorship, what have you done to dignify your programming skills?

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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by pcguru1(m): 7:04am On Jan 22
DanTheGeek:


Baba what's up with your Skype nah? Microsoft must've sent nukes to your PC :-()

I swear I just logged back in forgot my password
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by DanTheGeek(m): 12:14am On Jan 24
pcguru1:


I swear I just logged back in forgot my password

Oh, okay.

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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 8:50am On Feb 02
Join the Coding Ask and Answer group by dropping your number here or sending me a message on WhatsApp
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 9:05pm On Feb 07
You can join the coding group or subscribe to my Tutorial by sending me a WhatsApp message or dropping your number here.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by lekanskills(m): 4:35pm On Feb 08
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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by kolinton007: 10:26pm On Feb 10
progeek37:
You can join the coding group or subscribe to my Tutorial by sending me a WhatsApp message or dropping your number here.
Please add me to the group. Zero.eight.zero.60423057
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 10:16am On Mar 23
kolinton007:

Please add me to the group. Zero.eight.zero.60423057

If you have not joined the group please send me a message on WhatsApp so I can send you the invite link
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Anonime1105(m): 11:52am On Mar 25



Another language is JavaScript, it is an absolutely bad language to start with. It gives beginners bad programming habit. It is not well structured and its oop is not natural. Many of its features were provided as add-ons , as much as possible avoid starting programming with JavaScript. Many people who started with JavaScript are apt to focus their entire life on front-end development. Many of them (I'm talking from my own experience with them in Nigeria) have vague understanding of Object Oriented principles. I have not met a JavaScript programmer who has accurate understanding of objects.

So in my view, I prioritise the following in that order:

1 Java
2 C#
3 Python



This is the major reason why I decided to pause web development till I am well grounded in programming, when I am very comfortable with java I would definitely learn Javascript, learning it first would have limited my understanding of OOP!
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 6:57am On Mar 31
The movement is on, be a pioneer. Let's build a community of great programmers. Join my WhatsApp coding group. Send me a WhatsApp message.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by masterfactor(m): 7:23am On Mar 31
progeek37:
The movement is on, be a pioneer. Let's build a community of great programmers. Join my WhatsApp coding group. Send me a WhatsApp message.
Send me the whatsapp invite link
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Faddegzz: 9:01am On Mar 31
progeek37:
The movement is on, be a pioneer. Let's build a community of great programmers. Join my WhatsApp coding group. Send me a WhatsApp message.
Please add me to the group, 08025329353 is my number. Thanks.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 7:33pm On Mar 31
masterfactor:

Send me the whatsapp invite link
Please send a WhatsApp message
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 10:16pm On Apr 12
Join coding WhatsApp group for free, let us build a community of great programmers. You can subscribe to my tutorial class on Java, C# or Python. Send me a WhatsApp
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 6:34am On Apr 22
While in doors because of Coronavirus you can become a programmer. Learn to program a computer instead of
only sleeping and eating this period. Join my tutorial class and coding group on WhatsApp.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 11:25am On May 24
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Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by progeek37(m): 12:38am On Jun 07
You can join my coding group if have already learned the fundamentals of programming or subscribe to tutorial if you are a beginner. Kindly send me a message on WhatsApp or text me.
Re: You Would Better Start Programming With Java Or C# by Brukx(m): 7:50pm On Jun 07
netsage205:
Good points @progeek37, but it actually depend on which area they want to face, I don't really advise writing a website in either c# or java, the languages should be used where they are best suited, Python is actually very good for data science, for a data scientists, Python takes a cut above java and c# , for android apps, Java is more suited. So I believe it is just depends on where the beginners want to actually work on. They should learn the one more effective for the area they want to specialize .
well said

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