Ekealterego:

Why have you people chosen daftness over Wisdom? Did you read what she narrated at all?
When I move from forums like Quora to this forum, I just lose a lot of brain cells.


@OP go to teaching hospitals and seek the opinions of experts. When you have things as sensitive as this, don't use this forum.. Most Nigerians are just advanced ignorant illiterates.

You are not fighting any spiritual battles and don't waste your time visiting any pastor or spiritualist. Do go to a teaching hospital or read some of the specific more reasonable opinion some people are suggesting and follow a test based on that.

tintingz:


1. Some illness needs multiple medical test to diagnose it.

2. Some illness takes time to heal even when you are given medical treatment, doctors will tell you this.

3. When a diagnosis is not found, it's taken as a new illness and more research are done on it to find cure. That's how we can advance, saying it's spiritual is backward and we can never develop with that mentality. No doctor in his/her profession will tell you to go seek for spiritual means, he/she can loose his job, we mostly see this in Nollywood movies. A doctor may tell to seek for spiritual means but it's not part of his profession.

4. A pilot in his/her profession must be professional in his job, they don't even tell passengers the plane is crashing, they say there's a little technical issue and it's been worked on, asking passengers to pray is like causing more panic, some do it but it's not part of their profession.

Prayers are waste of time, it has never been proven to work, a society with science and technology and without prayer will still develop. Prayers only delude you with hope like an opium nothing more.

Pearl1996:
Nairaland famiy I need help.

Somethings been eating me up. I had sex with my boyfriend some weeks later i started falling so sick I will try to point out all I can remember
*Came down with what I felt was fever was burning hot so hot you just need to come close to feel the heat

*at night I sweat. Not just the usual sweat but one I have to change my clothes two times a nigbt(this happened for like a week)

* I started feeling so cold especially in the morning. Doctor said it was pneumonia + a cough that lasted for three weeks plus.

*and the rashes I ve never have in my whole life spreaded all over my arms and back as well as my breast region.

* I also had serious muscle ache. Serious that my mom had to help me massage it. My neck did hurt too it felt like someone hit me with a blank on my neck

* nodes on my neck, groin, as well as ear.
* I started having blurred vision and sores on my lips like fever blisters

* and then injuries in my mouth, weird ones
* I have oral trush at least thats what I thought them to be. White tongue I have had this before but this onr is different. With slimy white things in my mouth every time

*I also experienced dehydration and dry mouth.
* also had a delayed flow

The symptoms are so much I can't even mention it all. Most of these lasted for about a month +. I still have cold till this day. I shiver most times and its my major fear. And the rashes are still there.

This Is the major problem. The nurse who was handling me said it might be an STD maybe HIV I took plethora of test including HIV after 3 months all came back negative, I was told to wait 6montgs to check for HIv again it was still negativr. During this month I have seen so many doctors, private and government all they do is givr me drugs but I still experience the pneumonia cold( no cough) and occasional mouth sores as well as the rash. My boyfriend now my ex took HIV too it was negative.
Please doctors in the house what can this be. I have read so many threads here on naira land of people who had same experience but some later turned + they might be lying though.

I heard after 6 months and test is still negative then its not it. My question now is. What is wrong with me. I have spent so much on drugs and test. And no doctor is able to say what my problem is. Its making me crazy as I am even scared to shower because of the cold and I can't let people see my body due to rash.

I need help.

midnighter:


You have a point but praying does actually have a beneficial effect on healing from illness. Man is spirit.

The best thing is to combine the two and not go to extremes

The problem is when people recommend going spiritual without any practical advice. Some gospel music tells women to reject Caesarean delivery in childbirth because Jesus must have worked it out for them. Though I understand where they are coming from, its a dangerous message to spread.

Why not use the music to tell people to get to the hospital if they are sick? Im sure Jesus must lead them to the right clinic and besides, one of the 12 disciples was a doctor.

tintingz:


If you pray alone for malaria cure, you have 2-5% chance you will be cured but if you take anti-malaria drug you have 98% you will get cured.

Prayer has never proven to work. Without prayers we can still advanced in the medical fields and heal people.

Makuos19:
First and foremost, you a confirm Harlot for having sex with someone that is not your husband. The solution to your problem will only start if you genuinely repent from your Fornication, ask God to have mercy on you and cleanse you. And promise Him that you will not go back into it until you are rightfully married and desist from going into Boy friendship!!!
Then you can pray to Him for healing and you will be healed!!!
You cant remain in your sin and be looking for solution!!!

Pearl1996:
Nairaland famiy I need help.

Somethings been eating me up. I had sex with my boyfriend some weeks later i started falling so sick I will try to point out all I can remember
*Came down with what I felt was fever was burning hot so hot you just need to come close to feel the heat

*at night I sweat. Not just the usual sweat but one I have to change my clothes two times a nigbt(this happened for like a week)

* I started feeling so cold especially in the morning. Doctor said it was pneumonia + a cough that lasted for three weeks plus.

*and the rashes I ve never have in my whole life spreaded all over my arms and back as well as my breast region.

* I also had serious muscle ache. Serious that my mom had to help me massage it. My neck did hurt too it felt like someone hit me with a blank on my neck

* nodes on my neck, groin, as well as ear.
* I started having blurred vision and sores on my lips like fever blisters

* and then injuries in my mouth, weird ones
* I have oral trush at least thats what I thought them to be. White tongue I have had this before but this onr is different. With slimy white things in my mouth every time

*I also experienced dehydration and dry mouth.
* also had a delayed flow

The symptoms are so much I can't even mention it all. Most of these lasted for about a month +. I still have cold till this day. I shiver most times and its my major fear. And the rashes are still there.

This Is the major problem. The nurse who was handling me said it might be an STD maybe HIV I took plethora of test including HIV after 3 months all came back negative, I was told to wait 6montgs to check for HIv again it was still negativr. During this month I have seen so many doctors, private and government all they do is givr me drugs but I still experience the pneumonia cold( no cough) and occasional mouth sores as well as the rash. My boyfriend now my ex took HIV too it was negative.
Please doctors in the house what can this be. I have read so many threads here on naira land of people who had same experience but some later turned + they might be lying though.

I heard after 6 months and test is still negative then its not it. My question now is. What is wrong with me. I have spent so much on drugs and test. And no doctor is able to say what my problem is. Its making me crazy as I am even scared to shower because of the cold and I can't let people see my body due to rash.

I need help.

lastmessenger:
can you swear that you have never had sex with someone who is not your wife? Calm down bro. Shit happens in life.

midnighter:


You are being narrow-minded. When did I say one should exclusively pray for a malaria cure? I don't think you even read my post.

A good immune system is one of the primary barriers against disease. It's been shown that prayer has a beneficial effect on the psychology, in which stress plays a part.

If a person prays and reduces their cortisol release and stress and it helps them ward off potential susceptibility to illness, what right do you have to say that it doesn't work?

Healing is the process of fighting disease and its made up of many components, including the power of mind.

A person who feels unburdened because he has peace of mind from prayer will be better off healthwise than one who has no outlet for his frustrations

That's not to mention lowering blood pressure which we have a huge problem with in this country.

No need to be biased against prayer when you don't want others to be biased against medicine

Makuos19:
So u mean everybody must have sex with someone who is not their wife or husband Besides, if you fall into sin are you expected to genuinely repent of your sin or to continue in sin while giving excuses

lastmessenger:
you are beating around the bush? I needed you to answer me so that I can know why you are so confident on placing a heavy condemnation on the lady. Anybody can fall.into.sin and am sure she has learnt her lessons and will.be properly guided when making her choice next time. Right she needs solution to her health issue and not a dose of condemnation.

tintingz:


I used malaria as an example of how medicine are more effective than prayers.

Medicine has been proven several times to work, prayers on the other has never been proven to work.

We can demonstrate that by using 20-20 patients.

You said prayers calm the body of patients, yes you maybe right here but it doesn't mean it cures, and not only prayers does this work, meditations, music, anything that calms the body does this work.

Most people pray because majority populations are religious so that makes most people in hospitals religious, this is irony, religious people shouldn't be in hospitals if prayer works.

midnighter:


You are being narrow-minded. When did I say one should exclusively pray for a malaria cure? I don't think you even read my post.

A good immune system is one of the primary barriers against disease. It's been shown that prayer has a beneficial effect on the psychology, in which stress plays a part.

If a person prays and reduces their cortisol release and stress and it helps them ward off potential susceptibility to illness, what right do you have to say that it doesn't work?

Healing is the process of fighting disease and its made up of many components, including the power of mind.

A person who feels unburdened because he has peace of mind from prayer will be better off healthwise than one who has no outlet for his frustrations

That's not to mention lowering blood pressure which we have a huge problem with in this country.

No need to be biased against prayer when you don't want others to be biased against medicine

midnighter:


These things are not mutually exclusive. Our aim is to keep the patient as healthy as possible, both at the point of treatment and as a preventative measure. Will we wait until the person is overcome with disease? Won't we encourage somebody to pray if it helps their well-being?

You insist that prayers have never been proven to "work", the question is work on what? There are plenty of studies looking at the effect of spiritual practice in healthcare if you care to look for them.

Exactly! Music, prayer, drawing, singing, watching movies all help people to de-stress and have a positive effect on the body. So I don't see why you're just picking on prayer as if it's bad

Anatomical systems are plenty and they are integrated; taking care of one means you are helping the others.

You can't say that religious people shouldn't be in hospital if prayers works, how would you prove it? Do you know how many people have been prevented from being admitted into hospital because of their prayers?

What about people who take medication, they should never go to church again?

Chigold101:
This is why I stopped responding to him because he is a special case. I suggested to OP that if all known medical tests and treatment has failed, he should seek spiritual help through prayers and the narrow minded guy just jumped in and say prayers don't work.

I also didn't want to respond to him on the issue plane I raised because I doubt if he has ever entered an airplane and if he has, he has never been in a plane where pilot could not land the plane for over an hour.

Please continue to school him

Chigold101:
This is why I stopped responding to him because he is a special case. I suggested to OP that if all known medical tests and treatment has failed, he should seek spiritual help through prayers and the narrow minded guy just jumped in and say prayers don't work.

I also didn't want to respond to him on the issue plane I raised because I doubt if he has ever entered an airplane and if he has, he has never been in a plane where pilot could not land the plane for over an hour.

Please continue to school him

tintingz:


Prayers as religion put it can do anything, we also read that it can move the mountains.

Religious people talk about prayers as if it cures all kind of diseases, if prayer is meant to calm the body then I've no argument with that as it is not different from mediating, listening to music or stories etc, so nothing special about prayers, you're the one making it seems it's special which is the bases of my argument.

If prayers work then no religious people should be in hospitals, if God is said to listen to all prayers and prayers can do everything, I see no reason anyone should be in hospitals.

There are people who don't pray and they are cured. Medication has proven to be very effective.

Religion gives hope to the people, it's like an opium, a fantasy people lean on, I think that part is a good service of religion but at the end majority people still go for medications because they "know" it's more effective.

Like I said we can demonstrate that prayers don't work.

Pray for 20 patients without medications.

And give 20 patients medications without prayers and see it result.

midnighter:


Not all religious people sound like that, its possible to be religious and realistic at the same time. Youre just using unreasonable people to paint all people who follow religion bad

We are going around in circles, if you say prayers are the same as music then you shouldnt disregard the beneficial aspects of prayers.

If you admit that it has some effect then why do you try to do away with it? If the person takes their medication and also prays how is it a bad thing?

We are not comparing which is "more" effective. They are effective in different ways

What about people who take different medications but are still sick? And then they pray and their illness is gone?

tintingz:
My point is prayers are not special and not magical as religion claim.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing to pray and also take medication, I'm saying prayer doesn't work as a form of healing, it's waste of time.

People often make this anecdotal claim.

How do we know which works? Was it the medications that later do the healing?

We can examine that.

midnighter:


As far as you say it cant be proven to work, you also cant stop others from proclaiming that it does. How will you prove they dont work? If they work sporadically and unpredictably, thats not the same as saying that they dont work at all. So your 20 vs. 20 argument is inviable

I regard myself as a naturally sceptical person but I must admit I have been healed before without medication, a doctor's visit or even any individual effort on my part aside from the prayer. I am still surprised whenever it crosses my mind and till date I cant think of any other explanation, so I wouldnt discourage others from trying it even though it may seem irrational.

Telling people that its a waste of time is bigoted of you since you cant prove it. If you discourage somebody from looking for their cure in prayer, doesnt it make you just as bad as fake pastors who stop people from going to the hospital?

Shhhh01:
why did u not go to d hospital and table this matter? SMH

Pearl1996:
Nairaland famiy I need help.

Somethings been eating me up. I had sex with my boyfriend some weeks later i started falling so sick I will try to point out all I can remember
*Came down with what I felt was fever was burning hot so hot you just need to come close to feel the heat

*at night I sweat. Not just the usual sweat but one I have to change my clothes two times a nigbt(this happened for like a week)

* I started feeling so cold especially in the morning. Doctor said it was pneumonia + a cough that lasted for three weeks plus.

*and the rashes I ve never have in my whole life spreaded all over my arms and back as well as my breast region.

* I also had serious muscle ache. Serious that my mom had to help me massage it. My neck did hurt too it felt like someone hit me with a blank on my neck

* nodes on my neck, groin, as well as ear.
* I started having blurred vision and sores on my lips like fever blisters

* and then injuries in my mouth, weird ones
* I have oral trush at least thats what I thought them to be. White tongue I have had this before but this onr is different. With slimy white things in my mouth every time

*I also experienced dehydration and dry mouth.
* also had a delayed flow

The symptoms are so much I can't even mention it all. Most of these lasted for about a month +. I still have cold till this day. I shiver most times and its my major fear. And the rashes are still there.

This Is the major problem. The nurse who was handling me said it might be an STD maybe HIV I took plethora of test including HIV after 3 months all came back negative, I was told to wait 6montgs to check for HIv again it was still negativr. During this month I have seen so many doctors, private and government all they do is givr me drugs but I still experience the pneumonia cold( no cough) and occasional mouth sores as well as the rash. My boyfriend now my ex took HIV too it was negative.
Please doctors in the house what can this be. I have read so many threads here on naira land of people who had same experience but some later turned + they might be lying though.

I heard after 6 months and test is still negative then its not it. My question now is. What is wrong with me. I have spent so much on drugs and test. And no doctor is able to say what my problem is. Its making me crazy as I am even scared to shower because of the cold and I can't let people see my body due to rash.

I need help.

studentofTruth:


Secondary Syphilis most likely.

Do any of these tests:
Rapid plasma reagin (RPR)
venereal disease Research laboratory (VDRL) fluorescent treponemal antibody absorption (FTA-ABS) test
agglutination assay (TPPA)

makydebbie:


Olodo can't you read?

Shhhh01:
Olodo i can read.

KingsJohnson:
Nigerians will never change

No wonder we are still where we are today


Op is really in need of advice and all you guys can do is make to jest of the situation, is very bad fellow Nigerians and really disappointing

Help the Op if you can or just pass, let show some kindness for once in life