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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Rexnegro(m): 11:07am On Oct 31, 2019 |
Mutemenot:just imagine .... na so those cars Go end up been rotten to level of becoming condemned cars . now that they are repairable they won't repair them o . smh . we have a long way to go in this country. |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 11:08am On Oct 31, 2019 |
isthatso: I blame those that that ask why not IVM vehicles at first page, Innoson has been doing very well without Southwest, Innoson Vehicles is all over oil rich Niger Delta, Southeast and North they recently opened showroom in Kaduna, Nigeria doesn't end in West Below is Ibeto vehicles battery manufacturing plant in Nnewi.
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by VEE2010(m): 11:14am On Oct 31, 2019 |
This is well commendable Mr. Governor but I would have thought that, you will choose a Nigerian brand (IVM) it is important we patronize our own products to create more opportunities for our people. Well done, Sir! |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Nobody: 11:14am On Oct 31, 2019 |
mercyson: when you read your history, make sure you read it completely. the North wanted to secede just before independence because they were afraid that with the education of the south and backwardness of the North, we would dominate them. It was the british and the south that convinced them to stay in Nigeria. In fact the reason we gained independence in 1960 and not earlier was because the North did not want independence, they said they werent ready. At independence, every region kept 50% of its resources, the SE controlled 50% of Nigeria's oil it was the shortsighted igbo coup and the civil war that caused the Army to unilaterally stop that formula reduce derivation to 13% and usher the present system where every body goes to Abuja for federal allocation and the North became lazy. Se would be the richest zone in Nigeria today with 50% of all our Oil if it hadnt foolhardily staged a coup and gone to war. we are all suffering for it today. The reason states were created was to take the ibo states out of the oil producing region of the old soth east region, so they would have oil money to build an army. it is also the reason why the 505 derivation was scrapped. If the army had never come into power no body would have had the power to take the oil revenue from the south east region. So when you go telling stories of victimization, rewriting history, read the whole history and remember the role you played in how we all got to where we are. |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 11:17am On Oct 31, 2019 |
These are other parts being manufacture in Nnewi by indegenous not foreigners
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 11:28am On Oct 31, 2019 |
Full manufacturing of Vehicle and motorcycle can only be possible in Nnewi because the city has dominated the business for decades 1 Like
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by DCmonster: 11:32am On Oct 31, 2019 |
isthatso:kia is assembled in Ogun state, yes. Innoson vehicles are manufactured here in Nigeria. There is difference between semi- knocked down imported vehicles like Kia and an innoson vehicles that's manufactured 90% locally. I am sure you have never traveled beyond your village. Get your facts right before spilling trash here out of hatred and bitterness. 2 Likes |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 11:38am On Oct 31, 2019 |
There are lots of Companies in Nnewi manufacturing vehicles parts, Innoson can source some of their parts from
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Nobody: 11:56am On Oct 31, 2019 |
DCmonster:90% really? the buffoonery and imbecility of you people astound me. tribal patriotism is one thing but at least shw you have some brain cells. where is the engine plant, the body stamping plant , the gearbox plant, where do they manufacture the seats, the wheels, the lheadlamps, the differential, the windows, drive shafts? dashboard, steering wheel, shock absorbers, sub frame, coil springs, brake discs, where do they get the steel is it Ajaokuta or Aladja? the fuel tank, where is the plant that manufactures it or all this things? the doors nko? you cant be showing flat panels for buses and be telling people you are a manufacturer. Where is a picture of them manufacturing the chassis (not welding onto a ready imported chasis from China), where is there stamping plant they used to produce the body panels? ode!! this nairaland puts one in contact with too many retards!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by spencekat(m): 12:01pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Timatayo1:History of Oyo state. |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by DCmonster: 12:08pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
isthatso:Lmao! Werey you are so bitter and jobless. If federal government acknowledges innoson as indigenous manufacturer then wtf are you retarded slowpoke. Have you ever been to nnewi before? Mumu. I am a Yoruba man ekiti prescicely by the way and I appreciate good thing. I am not a bigoted tribalist like you fool. You bitter and hatred filled slowpoke Omoale, eleribu. |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Nobody: 12:15pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
DCmonster: people using the word aseembly and manufacturing interchangeably does not mean they mean the same thing. Innoson vehicles are all produced under license, which means they source their parts from the real manufacturer in China and assemble them in Nigeria. That is why you will see ALL innoson vehicles in other countries under different names. I have no doubt that some of the components may be subsittuted for local manufacturers e.g batteries and the panels for the buses may be fabricated locally because they are flat but you need a stamping plant to produce all other metal parts with complex shapes, things like the wheel well, the etc especially in the cars, Forget about what govt said, we have become an uneducated nation who use words anyhow. Annambra motor manufacturing plant Annamco has been in existence for 30-40 years, it assembled mercedes trucks. Just like Peugeot Asembly of Nigeria, dont get too seduced by words. All i asked is show me where these items mentioned are manufactured in Nigeria by Innoson or for innoson...that's all, simple no need for abuse, just show me the innoson factories that produce these 90% made in Nigeria components!!! what determines whether you are a manufacter or an asssembler is the proportion of the constituent parts that you manufacture from raw materials yourself. I am not trying to knock or pull down Innoson, he is a pathblazer, a role model a true Nigerian or Ibo industrialist. But please dont demean what he is doing by calling him a manufacturer. he is not a manufacturer ...yet!! his achievements set him apart without people having to call him what he isnt. A car consists of the subframe or chassis, complex shaped body panels, engines, transmission, drive shaft, steering, axle wheels, suspension, windows, seats, there is not much else to a car after these. So except for flat outer body panels for buses, which of these does innoson manufacture and where is the plant that manufactures it/them? However if it makes you feel good to call him a manufacturer, I am happy to play along in order not to upset your sensibilities 2 Likes |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by hostlink: 12:50pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Good development. Will the vehicle be maintain? My question, Who is supervising Nigeria police vehicle? download free project topic and materials on www.researchs.com.ng for final year students |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 1:51pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
isthatso: 70% of the car parts are produced locally, while the rest is sourced from Japan, China, and Germany
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by DCmonster: 2:14pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Go get a job, get busy and smoke less weed. It will do you more good. And when you recover from your bitterness and ethnic jingoism you can visit nnewi yourself. I as a Yoruba man I have visited there and I saw with my own eyes that nnewi manufactures cars (innoson) and motorcycles locally even though I went on a hustle trip there and seized the opportunity without letting bitterness and hatred blind me like it has done to you. Get a life and make money. All the time you spend typing meaningless epistle to dispute a well known fact, if channelled to something meaningful your life will be better than the poverty ravaged one you are living now. @Isthatso don't quote me again pls. Bye! |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Nobody: 2:19pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
TundeBricklayer: Anybody can say anything on the internet. i hope you know? There are some things you read that you have to ask yourself...."does it make sense to you?" where are these things being manufactured? In have already asked you to tell me where these major components of any vehicle are manufactured in Nigeria. And if you are not manufacturing your own engines, transmission, windows, drive shafts, axles, wheels, lights, curved body panels, subframes, petrol tanks, seats, etc etc, what are you manufacturing that you get to 70%........battery? (bear in mind you said 90% but lets let that slide) I am 100% sure they do not manufacture these critical parts because you need to manufacture in hundreds of thousands and millions to justify establishing manufacturing plants for these components. I am almost certain that alsmost no major auto manufacturer manufactures 50% of the components, it just doesnt make economic sense, so I take those figures with a grain of salt. For instance there are less than 5 or 6 companies that manufacture all the alloy wheels to nearly all the vehicle manufacturers in the world, there is a country I read about in Easter Europe i cant remmember which, one of their major exports is alloy wheels because they are a major supplier to worldwide vehicle manufacturers, there are 3 or 4 companies Bosch, denso,Delco that supply virtually all the electronic systems for all cars in the world. There are 2 or 3 companies that produce most of the gearboxes used in the world ZF being one of them. Most manufacturers do not manufacture their own seats, or tyres for instance. most airconditioners used in (0% of the worlds cars are manufactured by a handful of companies. if you find a company that can claim it manufactures more than 50% of it's components it is probably because it owns a subsidiary company like toyota owns denso and i think Gm owns Delco that also supplies other manufacturers making it viable. So when people just come talking rubbish, it shows ignorance more than anything. it's like the fashion industry (5 of all zips in this world are made by YKK and another company, the name I forget. manufacturing is a high specialised industry Innoson cannot manufacture even 20% of it's components for a mass produced car in a country like Nigeria and be profitable, even abroad it will be unprofitable at their volume level. People who do produce millions of cars every year. Most vehicle manufacturers design their cars, manufacture their chassis and then assemble components from suppliers. many dont even make their own engines. Innoson does none of these. another reason why common sense will tell any reasonable person that innoson is not a manufacturer is because it has too many models. How many cars do they "manufacture" that they will setup a stamping die for each body part? how many body parts will the die produce to justify the expense? some things are just common sense. its like when people say Nigerin leaders have stolen 1 trillions dollars since independence...a sensible person will ask from where? how much oil have we produced that they can steal that kind of money? it all depends on whether you want to be reasonable or a jingoist. Please if you must respong to me again, do some research and tell me where these vital components are manufactured in Nigeria or pictures otherwise lets just let this go, the more you quote me and I'm forced to respond, the more you will say I am anti Ibo so Lets just let this go I dont want to get into emotional arguments. If Innosson is indeed manufacturing even if it is only 10%. It is good for me as a Nigerian but there is a difference between manufacturing and assembling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACDelco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denso https://www.alcircle.com/news/top-10-aluminium-alloy-wheel-manufacturers-in-the-world-27249 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixPhogfZTHU |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
[s] isthatso:[/s] You are ignorant, no vehicle Manfacturer manifacture 100% of their parts, they source their parts from different vehicle parts manufacturing companies, for example Bosch Manifacture Windows, Side mirror, headlights, There are 48 motor vehicle engine Manifactures in world, some vehicle manfacturers Manifacture their own, while some manifacuture for other vehicle Manfacturers
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Nobody: 3:01pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
TundeBricklayer: i have told you to tell me what are the 70% innoson is manufacturing, you are merely quoting me by repeating what i already said. not answering my question. Most components are by suppliers so to any reasonable person that will tell you innosson claim of 70% is false. if you are not producing the components, what are you producing, where is your stamping plant, the number 1 thing that makes you a manufacturer!!! I have no more to say to you, you are clearly here as a jingoist...please stop wasting my time. if you have evidence of Innosons manufacturing for instance it's stamping plant, I will respond otherwise i have no more time for you. Like I said an ibo man who comes to nairaland masquerading as a yoruba is not here for truth but for propaganda!!! 1 Like |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by TundeBricklayer: 3:06pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
[s] isthatso:[/s] Your jagons can't change the fact Innoson is the only vehicle manufacturing company recognized in Nigeria many foreign media has visited his company, there's no need wasting your energy trying to write him down IVM plant is open for all to visit, he is already recognized as the only vehicle manufacturing company in Nigeria Check below
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Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by zomby(m): 3:34pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Using cars as police patrol cars in Ibadan is not a good idea, as majority of the roads are in a bad shape. It doesn't make any sense to need the assistance of police, but due to the bad roads and the available patrol cars they are unable to get to you. Pickup vehicles or affordable SUVs would have been a better choice...Innoson motors has a few affordable SUV vehicles, why not use one of these Innoson SUVs? We just simply don't use our common sense before making decision...especially the Nigerian leaders. I give these cars 15 to 18 months before they start falling apart one by one. In a nutshell, Seyi makinde's admin just made a good move that lacks basic common sense. 2 Likes |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by OdenKelechi(m): 4:19pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Mutemenot:That's the sad thing, they will |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Maydfourth: 4:57pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Who this one help for Oyostate.....We have bad roads,filth all over,Okada and Marwa problems....He is busy buying fine cars for police...Instead of him to buy pick up van,he is buying Kia....He should stop copying Lagos....Alll this cars will be off road by next year,no be Nigeria police..He just gave his boys contract to chop..Clueless Governor...Thanks for wasting our money on frivolities.. 2 Likes |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by SIRTee15: 6:08pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
isthatso: Abeg ignore them.... They are unrepentant tribal bigot including that one claiming he's from ekiti... Attempt at educating them is waste of time... Nigeria isn't listed among automotive producing countries... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production Yet some people will claim innoson is a car manufacturer.... One guy in ghana is also doing something similar over there....assembling knock down parts imported from China.... U sure know your onions.... And I've learnt so much from u.... Are u an engineer or u into automotive... I've always believed nigeria should focus on motor components specialization n production rather than this car assembling that wont get us anywhere.... I seriously doubt we can compete effectively in car export market that's becoming saturated n highly competitive..... If we focus on car components production, do u think we can snatch a significant global market size for our product.... |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Legendguru: 6:20pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
Hmmm |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Nobody: 6:41pm On Oct 31, 2019 |
SIRTee15: I have always beleived that Nigeria should focus on an item for which it has comparative advantage e.g rubber or aluminum for example then set up a tire manufacturing or alloy wheel production plant and then go into an agreement with a major manufacturer e.g Toyota or Nissan that we will give your vehicles special access to our markets if you set up buy all the tyres or alloy wheels produced in the factories. we can set up factories whose sole purpose is over time to supply a quarter of the seats or dashboards, or glass produced by toyota/nissan/mercedes worldwide. We dont have to produce our own vehicles to have an industry and truth is we never will. We should focus on a few items and aim to be the no 1 supplier even if it the steering wheels, tyres, batteries, rubber mats anything. Ronal makes 1.5B euros in sales and employs 6000 people every year just from supplying alloy wheels to Auto manufacturers just 1 product. takata makes airbags and seatbelts thats all, they turnover over $6b a year and employ 50,000 people. between 1986 amd 1991, they supplied 8.5million vehicles with seatbelts, this is US alone IMHO we should stop trying to focus on what we do not have comparative advantage in (intellectual property) and focus on the basics that allign with our national resources and aim to be among the top worldwide suplliers in a particular product. I applaud innoson o, but i would rather manufacture something basic like seatbelts, alloy wheels, batteries, brake discs, brake pads and grow to supply a quarter of Ford, Toyota or Nissan's worldwide factory demand than disturb myself making cars that cannot compete with the big guys even In Nigeria. I think the Nnewi guys are on the right track, they should focus on the parts and hopefully grow from there. |
Re: Seyi Makinde Buys New Police Patrol Cars by Ayomarcel(m): 4:15pm On Nov 01, 2019 |
ideylaff: Exactly as a new business you gotta be wary of ur prices. |
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