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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by SarkinYarki: 11:36am On Nov 03, 2019
Area4Area:
Go to any rural area good at rice cultivation and see the smiles on their faces, even in the urban areas sef, youths are seriously getting involved in poultry business


Have youths in Nigeria not been into poultry since ? Even as an 8 year old I ran my own poultry and sold chickens so stop this nonsense talk ..

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Gilgil: 11:37am On Nov 03, 2019
Perhaps you may consider that the cost of manufacturing in Nigeria is too high due to poor infrastructure and policies.

Count how many factories have closed down or drastically cut capacity in the last 20 years. Where is Michelin, Dunlop? Check capacities of other that have dropped.

If the government does Its job well, local manufacturing would compete favourably with imports.

Poor electricity, poor transport infrastructure (rail track, inland shipping), multiple taxation, little marginal difference in import duties of finished goods and their raw materials etc. This is the government's job but they won't do it, rather it's always a knee-jerk reaction everytime.

I recall when the federal administartion joined in 2015, we had the worst fuel crisis in Nigeria yet due to complete ban of most vessels bringing in petroleum products into the country on the allegation of subsidy corruption. Guess what? The shunned Nigeria and we had a crazy time wirh petrol for more than a month. Of course lives were lost from people hoarding etc, but who measures?

So, the idea is to get the Government agencies at the border to DO THEIR JOBS. The executive arm is in charge of customs, and so they should police the land borders effectively. Anyone caught Offending, officer or smuggler shoukd face the law while law abiding Nigerians can import or export through the land borders. People can't go suffering because the Nigerian Customs cannot do their jobs of policing the land borders!



isthatso:


like I said anybody with a brain would be thinking why are we importing 3trilllion worth of textiles ($10B) and exporting jobs abroad when we have textile mills shut down and unemployed Nigerians....same with rice. For some context our entire income from Oil is not up to $30B.

You can argue with yourself from now till tommorow, Nigerians are corrupt, corrupt people will always find themselves into banks, civil service, police, army customs etc and sabotage well meaning directions. Someyimes the only way to deal with the corrupt people that are we Nigerians is to be draconian.


Like I said anyone with a brain who means well for Nigeria should at this moment be wondering why we are importing so much textiles through the land borders especially when our numerous textile mills are shut down and our youths are unemployed

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by vaxx2: 11:37am On Nov 03, 2019
SarkinYarki:


You are too dull for to discuss with so bounce . I am sure you are looking for where to charge your phone and still saying people should set up textile industry , if they set up textile industry is it your power bank they will use to run it ?

Too dull and that's why most of U end up in total mediocrity with one unhappy wife and one ugly second hand Toyota Camry with plenty of bills at a local beer parlor .. Abeg go and play in the bush
Great thinker.....i love that honestly

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by LabDNA: 11:37am On Nov 03, 2019
Empredboy:
if I want to export leather from kano to Burkina faso how should I do it? Go through the sea or air or land?
Note: your competitor in Morocco wants to supply too in Burkina Faso. So landing cost matters alot

Exactly my point.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by SarkinYarki: 11:38am On Nov 03, 2019
Beremx:
It is obvious you are a business man and business men like you know how this border thing is affecting you. All the ignorant people shouting border should remain closed do not have a single idea what people like you are going through.

The only people who support Buhari are failures who live a subsidized life , either they are working in one govt organization where the collect free salary or na their parents still de feed them

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Newmans: 11:39am On Nov 03, 2019
The question is how much is there contributions to the nations accounts through that source
Nigeria must move forward.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by pinpinkay: 11:39am On Nov 03, 2019
I should get creative with rice? Is this a joke? undecided Am telling you that Nigeria's border closure is not well planned for and you are talkin of creativity .. aside the rice been .. the border closure of thing is not just right at this time ..
Angelfrost:


There are alternatives to rice... This lamenting will do you no good. Get creative!!! grin
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Gilgil: 11:40am On Nov 03, 2019
Apt.
This shows you the level of knowledge of the person you are replying.
No understanding of concepts from basic education, that's if they have any.


LabDNA:


At what cost? If I export wears from Aba to Cameroon which is just a few kilometers away from Aba after paying the required duties at the border post, how do I survive if I'd have to move the same goods from Aba to Lagos just to export it through sea or Air to next door Cameroun? Since the land borders are closed and the PH port is moribund. Does it sound like a sustainable idea to you?

Be realistic!

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by leokid866: 11:41am On Nov 03, 2019
SarkinYarki:


You are too dull for to discuss with so bounce . I am sure you are looking for where to charge your phone and still saying people should set up textile industry , if they set up textile industry is it your power bank they will use to run it ?

Too dull and that's why most of U end up in total mediocrity with one unhappy wife and one ugly second hand Toyota Camry with plenty of bills at a local beer parlor .. Abeg go and play in the bush

Please just because you are having power issues does not mean you should unplug your brain....p.s I have 24/7 light in my house....I stay in the redeemed camp I'm sure you have heard about it....they plan on opening industrial parks soon so don't compare your mediocre life to mine....now please take a sit and ask yourself why you married that ugly wife and bought that faulty camry...

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Iloko: 11:41am On Nov 03, 2019
Beremx:
Nigerians will suffer more from the border closure. Someone with sense should tell Buhari the truth. Border closure is not all about rice importation.


What a country!!
Behind every greatness, there is always a price to pay. What ever we are passing through today should just be seeing as a price being paid. Many of us do make reference to Singapore, China, Taiwan and the rest, but we do find it difficult to endure what those countries endured before attaining the status they are today. What an irony!
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by pinpinkay: 11:41am On Nov 03, 2019
Just because i gave a comment on how poor our products are and you decide to label my type of comment as a smuggler and liar... Trust me, you are mentally unproductive .. #peace bro cool wink
Area4Area:
Na wah o, anyway when we see smugglers, liars, we know them from their posts
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by isthatso: 11:43am On Nov 03, 2019
lexy2014:


According to u:

"they dont pay the correct duty, this is why imported textiles are cheaper and our own textile mills have shut down resulting in no jobs"

These are my questions:

"Y don't they (textile importers) pay d correct duties? Who collects d incorrect duties from them? What is d job of d customs? Are there no customs officials at d borders?"

This is what u called an answer to d questions I asked:

"Nigerians are corrupt, corrupt people will always find themselves into banks, civil service, police, army customs etc and sabotage well meaning directions. Someyimes the only way to deal with the corrupt people that are we Nigerians is to be draconian.
Like I said anyone with a brain who means well for Nigeria should at this moment be wondering why we are importing so much textiles through the land borders especially when our numerous textile mills are shut down and our youths are unemployed."

I asked "who collects d incorrect duties"? Pls where's d answer to that in ur comment above?

I also asked "what is d job of d customs"? Where's d answer to that in ur comments?

Lastly, I asked if there are no custom officials at d borders? Pls where's d answer to that in ur comment above?

I didn't ask u if Nigerians are corrupt or not. If corrupt people are in d customs, is it by closing d border that they will b dealt with or fished out?




when you see a slowpoke, a madman, a trouble maker, it's best to avoid them or they will just waste your time. All your questions have been answered. You just want to be argumentative. Find someone else! some people are more interested in argument that the argument.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by engrchykae(m): 11:44am On Nov 03, 2019
justtoodark:
whatever....the nigerian borders stay closed....

its not our job to save africa....
whose job is that?
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Area4Area: 11:44am On Nov 03, 2019
lexy2014:


Did she break any law by ranting? How does her ranting now mean that she is a criminal?

Meanwhile,
Is it only smugglers that use d land borders? Do smugglers not also use air and sea ports?
Those complaining about the border closure;

Asian rice farmers and their governments,

Nigerian importers and smugglers or those related or close to them,

ECOWAS states governments especially Benin, Togo, Cameroun, Ghana and Niger involved in smuggling into Nigeria because of loss of revenue,
She could fall into any of those categories.

Any genuine importer into Nigeria should use the seaports and airports for now till those leeching countries sought themselves out.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Area4Area: 11:45am On Nov 03, 2019
lexy2014:


Oga, na simple questions I ask u. I didn't ask u for plenty grammar. Pls answer d following based on ur previous comment:

Y don't they (textile importers) pay d correct duties? Who collects d incorrect duties from them? What is d job of d customs? Are there no customs officials at d borders?
Seaports and airports for now

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Blue3k(m): 11:48am On Nov 03, 2019
Area4Area:
Has the corridor being opened yet and the Nigerian government that said you must get your act together before any consideration for reopening is joking?
Continue begging Nigeria for forgiveness for now, change your ways and we'd consider you guys request.

Date of report, 18 October, today is 03 November yet you're already rejoicing over a phantom corridor.
Better tell your president to give those stranded Ghanaian drivers at our borders more money in order to survive.

Lol when does Nigeria do anything with haste. You already agreed to do it so its just a matter of time. Its funny how you weidodforgotten how Nigeria went crying over deportation and shop closures it seems this border closue judt an ego trip.

Area4Area:
Thanks bros, even if Nigeria allows a corridor for Ghana only(not possible) and not for Benin, they believe that Benin would allow that.
Benin would just raise their tariffs for goods heading from Ghana to Nigeria to make up for their loss with Nigeria.

Lol the corrupt Nigerian official lied to Ghana? To use any corridor you would need Ghanaian license they can't enter. Ghana also has to submit list of companies. Benin wouldn't be dumb enough to engage in tariff war with ghana. Maybe Nigeria would do something dumb like that without considering retaliatory tariff that makes their situation worse.



Notatribalist:
The timing of the border closure is bad, but the idea is good. Those products you are importing from Mali are they made in Mali? Probably a foreign company produces it in Mali with Nigeria market as mail target. That's the issue the gorverment is trying to solve. Let the companies come and Establish in Nigeria and create jobs for our people.

Lol hypocrites always exposes themselves. You want these same foreign companies to invest in Nigeria so you export products to ECOWAS nations. You think closing your land borders is how to attract foreign investors?

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by isthatso: 11:48am On Nov 03, 2019
vaxx2:
Great thinker.....i love that honestly
is it power bank Dangote or innoson or Glo or MTNare using power their industries? if you want to make a way you will make a way, if your objectives are to blame and find excuses, you will not lack for scapegoats. If you stop the people spoiling your market(smugglers) you will have incentives to go back to manufacturing/ farming.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Gilgil: 11:48am On Nov 03, 2019
The truth is that Nigeria would lose more than we gain during this border closure.

The net result would be a negative. What the customs boss should do is to REFORM his institution! Collect duties everywhere both land, sea and air and provide the one mission they have which is POLICE THE BORDERS EFFECTIVELY FOR GOODS!

If the Nigerian Customs were to be a private company, would the CEO accept a closure of land borders ( loss of revenue, inconvenience to clients, bad image to company) from the customs boss because he cannot control smuggling through the land borders? Resources would be provided for that and if the boss cannot deliver, he would be asked to resign. But again, we are in Nigeria!

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by muzically(m): 11:48am On Nov 03, 2019
SarkinYarki:
The truth is now coming out ..By the the time this is over Nigeria would have lost over 8 trillion Naira because shortsighted Buhari want local farmers to sell 500 thousand bags of rice Worth a paltry 6 billion reminiscent of how the same Buhari made the oil industry lose over 80 billion dollars because Buhari wanted to recover a paltry 35 million dollars from Tompolo ..Buhari is visionless and so myopic that anybody expecting positive results from him is like someone expecting Keke Napep to win a Formula one race .

True, the president thinks he's doing us a favor. he doesn't even know he's hurting Nigerians

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by muzically(m): 11:50am On Nov 03, 2019
okwusdidi:
From what i have read so far,this border closure would lead to more job loses,a lot of business would fold thereby causing more poverty and hardship in the land.And for a country which according to the world bank is the poverty capital of the world.I don't think this is a very wise thing to do right now no matter how good the intention is.

Good bless you.
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Area4Area: 11:51am On Nov 03, 2019
Chubhie:
To imagine that customs went to town celebrating that they made 3 billion daily by shutting the border. Why not get smart scanners and search for arms and rice instead of shutting down the whole economy of West Africa?

This crude approach have no place in a modern society. This is counter productive both in the short, medium and long terms.
We now have scanners at our ports, we had to shut down their economies because they were proving stubborn.
Stick to ECOWAS protocols on trade and those stubborn leeches refused, what else do you want us to do again, must it continue?

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by vaxx2: 11:52am On Nov 03, 2019
isthatso:

is it power bank Dangote or innoson or Glo or MTNare using power their industries? if you want to make a way you will make a way, if your objectives are to blame and find excuses, you will not lack for scapegoats. If you stop the people spoiling your market(smugglers) you will have incentives to go back to manufacturing/ farming.
Do you know what will have been those company revenue if there is constant supply of electricity to their company? Do you know how many Nigerians will be working there if more revenue is forth coming? The failure to power Nigeria is the reason unemployment is skyrocketing. how can I employed more when i run lots of cash fuelling my industrial generator with monthly maintenance.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by tiwiex(m): 11:54am On Nov 03, 2019
Beremx:
It is obvious you are a business man and business men like you know how this border thing is affecting you. All the ignorant people shouting border should remain closed do not have a single idea what people like you are going through.
It also explains why many are unemployed and will remain unemployed. They don't really do anything so they don't know how these things even work. So sad I would say.

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by nototribalist: 11:54am On Nov 03, 2019
Blue3k:


Lol you have to kill me loser. Your government already agreed to give them trade corridor and you're here beating your chest.
the so-called corridor was promised to decieve the Ghanaian ministers, one month down the line where is the corridor?

Ghana should have sense for ones, una mumuu don too much

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by gazza07(m): 11:55am On Nov 03, 2019
Hypocrital north! See the way they are sugar-coating their words not to be too hard on their blooda. Yeye dey smell undecided undecided
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Gilgil: 11:55am On Nov 03, 2019
Area4Area:
We now have scanners at our ports, we had to shut down their economies because they were proving stubborn.
Stick to ECOWAS protocols on trade and those stubborn leeches refused, what else do you want us to do again, must it continue?

How about Customs effectively holding the land borders? That's what they are meant to do right? If they fail that one mission, then they should give the job to those who can handle it.

No one is talking about the inefficiencies and poor job they are doing. Rather they just close borders
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by SarkinYarki: 11:56am On Nov 03, 2019
leokid866:


Please just because you are having power issues does not mean you should unplug your brain....p.s I have 24/7 light in my house....I stay in the redeemed camp I'm sure you have heard about it....they plan on opening industrial parks soon so don't compare your mediocre life to mine....now please take a sit and ask yourself why you married that ugly wife and bought that faulty camry...

I live in Lekki Phase 1 and I have 24 hours electricity which I run by myself .No I have never heard of redeemed camp in my life and nothing will carry me to that part of Lagos .. When you can buy a property in Lekki phase one come back let's talk . Don't even go there with me because I am sure before I finish typing this I have made your monthly income.. I have never bought a second car in my life and I have given people cars and I swear none was second hand . You are too dull for my liking

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Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Area4Area: 11:56am On Nov 03, 2019
lexy2014:


Who are d leeching countries and how are they leeching Nigeria?
They and even you know them.
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by tiwiex(m): 11:56am On Nov 03, 2019
netpro:
Some people like illegality. If you wish to continue in business, import your materials through the proper channels.
Is the land border a improper channel? Yes, it is. Did you read the story? Will an exporter from Mali send his goods to a sea port or what?
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Rolex66: 11:56am On Nov 03, 2019
dre11:
…as chemical union says closure is threatening their jobs



https://www.newtelegraphng.com/2019/11/border-closure-we-stand-to-lose-over-n3trn-northern-textile-traders/

Only a foolish government takes actions before it reasons. You don't even have the capacity to grow the rice that your citizens eat. You can close your borders when your industries and plantations are buzzing with activities and production.

You cannot give what you don't have.
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by Notatribalist(m): 11:57am On Nov 03, 2019
Blue3k:


Lol when does Nigeria do anything with haste. You already agreed to do it so its just a matter of time. Its funny how you weidodforgotten how Nigeria went crying over deportation and shop closures it seems this border closue judt an ego trip.



Lol the corrupt Nigerian official lied to Ghana? To use any corridor you would need Ghanaian license they can't enter. Ghana also has to submit list of companies. Benin wouldn't be dumb enough to engage in tariff war with ghana. Maybe Nigeria would do something dumb like that without considering retaliatory tariff that makes their situation worse.





Lol hypocrites always exposes themselves. You want these same foreign companies to invest in Nigeria so you export products to ECOWAS nations. You think closing your land borders is how to attract foreign investors?
what is ecowas without Nigeria?
Re: Border Closure: Northern Textile Traders Say They Stand To Lose Over N3 Trillion by BUSINESSARENAA(m): 11:57am On Nov 03, 2019
Bluetooth2:


It is not only Rice that is being smuggled. What about Nigerian petroleum products that have been heavily subsidized by the Nigerian government only to end up in those so called African countries.

The more reason I said government should come up with smart ideas on how best to solve the issue thoroughly.

Rice is their major reason, as they said.

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