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Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by T9ksy(m): 10:31am On Nov 11, 2019 |
IGBOSON1: Oh who should I hold responsible for the current state of the country? Those yet unborn? Who enabled the fulani hegemony if not your greedy and myopic leaders. 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by T9ksy(m): 10:55am On Nov 11, 2019 |
Omoodua007: Abi o jare!!! After the civil war during which we all saw how the same group was almost annihilated, allegedly, by the fulani-run military government yet come the 2nd republic, it was the same perennially persecuted group who willing jumped into bed with their "masters"- the fulani govt of shehu shagari . Yet they have the temerity to call others, afonja......... 4 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Area4Area: 11:02am On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Go and get the Biafra and stop disturbing Nigerians |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Area4Area: 11:09am On Nov 11, 2019 |
mrvitalis:He was actually doing the bidding of the British who didn't want a broken up Nigeria, it would be like a failed project and the Brits wouldn't like that. That was how Zik kept the other leaders in check by threatening them with arrest by the Brits, Awo was even arrested at a point. Myopic Zik who couldn't see the future, same referendum and secession he refused and the Brits praising him is the same his people are dying for today 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Area4Area: 11:10am On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Ask Azikiwe and Ironsi that question. 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by helinues: 11:16am On Nov 11, 2019 |
Here is my problems with the lists. If Hausas' have been riding Easterners for years, is the current generation of Easterners going to let history repeat itself? |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by gidgiddy: 11:25am On Nov 11, 2019 |
helinues: The Northerners are riding the entire south. However, the only agitation against Northern domination is that of IPOB who are mostly Igbos. 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by helinues: 11:28am On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy: Nobody is disputing the facts that Northerners are riding the whole south entirely, but why are Igbo's too emotional about that when you can make the corrections via ballot? Let me speak on behalf of SW, at times you need to play as a fool to get what you want.. Karma is f..ucking real even though it has no arms or legs 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Area4Area: 11:36am On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Story for the gods, better go exhume the corpses of Azikiwe and Ironsi and give both two slaps each for bringing Nigeria to this 4 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by gidgiddy: 12:17pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
helinues: You still do t get it. Nigeria has been rigged in favour of the North. They have the most number of states, the most number of Local governments, they control the upper and lower houses of the national assembly which means they can make and unmake any law they want. So what are you going to do with the ballot? Even if the president is from my village, he will still be president of a Nigeria that skewed heavily in favour of the North 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by gidgiddy: 12:18pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Area4Area: The person who deserves a slap is Lugard for bringing us together 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by helinues: 12:23pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy: As a president, educating and enlightening of their wards would be my first priority. When people know their rights, then the right people might be in power.. Na God save Gandollar , Tambuwal and Elrufai |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by FakeManna: 12:28pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
[s] helinues:[/s]bullcrap |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by nku5: 12:34pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy: Jonathan's experience as president taught me my final lesson about Nigeria. He was commander in chief and performed probably better than any other before him but because he was from the wrong side of the country he was under threat from the north and the southwest from day one till the day he left office. He couldn't do anything for his people out of fear despite the fact that his place has been feeding Nigeria for more than 50 years. Presidency is a waste without restructuring 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by FakeManna: 1:03pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
[s] helinues:[/s] trash 1 Like |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by gidgiddy: 1:08pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
nku5: The years Jonathan was in power, he felt the heat. They came at him from all sides and Nigeria ungovernable for him. Despite the fact that Jonathan did more for the North than his own zone, they could see nothing good in him. All they saw was the zone he was from. That's why I laugh when I see saw of my fellow Igbos talking 2023 presidency, I dont think they realise that an Igbo president will will receive 10 times the heat Jonathan took and be rendered useless Without a restructured Nigeria, we are heading no where 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by FakeManna: 1:08pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
[s] helinues:[/s] trash 1 Like |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by IGBOSON1: 1:34pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Omoodua007: I cut Azikiwe some slack b'cos of the circumstances of his birth, childhood and tutelage! If there's any such thing as a 'true Nigerian' then Zik is it....even if this has worked against the interests of his people, Ndigbo! Zik was born in the north (Zungeru) and had part of his childhood there; attended Hope Wadell training inst', Calabar; and spent a good part of his formative years in Lagos under the tutelage of Herbert Macauley! He was the quintessential Nigerian if ever there was one, hence i can understand (even if i don't agree with) his desire for a 'one Nigeria'! The Nigeria that Zik subscribed his people to, is it the Nigeria you see today that you say should be 'indivisble' and Ndigbo must remain a part of come hell or high water? Assuming for the sake of argument, we say with the benefit of hindsight that Zik made a 'mistake', what are YOU doing to correct said mistake....or are you just gonna sit on your arse apportioning blame upon blame to actors who exited the stage close to 50 yrs ago? We can only blame Zik had it been all the political and socio-economic dislocation we're witnessing today was happening under the arrangement he signed up to on the eve of independence in 1960! Is this the case, or are we operating a unitary system of gov't in all but name....one that sees a Fulani hegemony dictating to the rest of the country what can and can't happen? If you're Fulani, then you should even be grateful for Ziks' 'mistake' as had the situation been any different and you were not in 'one Nigeria' today, you'd in all likelihood be no better than Niger! If you're Yoruba, then you need to ask yourself what Awo did to rectify this 'mistake' (you heap solely on Ziks' head) when he had an opportunity to remove his people from the 'mere geographical expression' he termed Nigeria to be! He had a window of opportunity when the north had its hands full with the Biafra secession, but what did he do? He only went and served in a gov't that was out to sustain this mistake of Lord Lugard, that's what he did! Some may argue, he should have at least first extracted some concessions from the northerners on how he wanted Nigeria to be governed/structured before agreeing to join them in their quest to sustain 'one Nigeria'! 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by T9ksy(m): 1:49pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy: No, the one who deserved the hottest slap is Azikwe (and his fellow ibo compatriots) who vehemently fought against the inclusion of a secession clause into our constitution. The fake union would have definitely disintegrated by now with probably no loss of life. Karma is truly a b.i.t.ch..... 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Area4Area: 2:27pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
gidgiddy:Lugard was serving the interest of his home country and would want the milking of the colony to continue, Azikiwe and Ironsi had the opportunity to reverse his decision but what did they? They rather reinforced that decision so as I earlier said, exhume their corpses and give them two hot slaps each for the damage they brought on Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Omoodua007: 3:31pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
IGBOSON1: See how he’s building mountain of excuses Even after civil war when you were humiliated Did you not still partner with North Na una be original slave 1 Like |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Omoodua007: 3:31pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
T9ksy: Do you know Hausa still issued exit to them some years ago and they still want to partner with them 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by gidgiddy: 5:10pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
T9ksy: It is not possible for one man to decide what was included in the constitution or not. How is it possible that Zik determined that secession clause would not be in the constitution when he had only one vote? That is simply not possible. Zik may have been against secession clause, but it is wrong to say it was him that stopped it. The constitutional conference of 1958 was peopled by the representatives of the various ethnic groups and they decided and voted on the constitution. 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Yorubasaredogs: 5:23pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
[s] Omoodua007:[/s] 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Tobichimezie: 5:36pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
So let me get something straight here, the argument by here is that Zik (A SINGLE MAN) all by himself decided the secession clause and thus the destiny of the whole Nigeria just by himself? wow! Zik must have been some super man who wielded unquestionable power... so the pertinent question now is, if Zik single-handedly abrogated the secession clause at the time...what were the other regional leaders doing, sleeping? what were Yorubas, Hausas and the rest of Nigerians doing while one man decided their political future?... either Zik was too powerful, too smart, or maybe the rest of Nigerians were just moping idiots who allowed one man take them on a long ride. 3 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Front0lane: 5:37pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
You Igbos are pathetically shameless so Zik signed up for a one Nigeria you clowns can decide when no one can leave and when you can leave whether others like it or not. Bro your reasoning is foolish no be small o. IGBOSON1: 2 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Omoodua007: 5:42pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Tobichimezie: Yes he was too smart and powerful |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by Tobichimezie: 5:46pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Omoodua007:Makes sense now, cause that could only be the rationale for the argument and claims. 1 Like |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by IGBOSON1: 8:17pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Front0lane: On the contrary....the eternally shameless ones are you and your ilk that see white and call it black! As per this your daft post....you’re waffling mate! Assuming for the sake of argument, we agree with you assertion that Zik has the overbearing power to insert a no referendum clause in the constitution, despite the protestations of the other two regions whose combined votes would cancel out that of the Eastern Region....if we go along with this lame argument, are you saying the constitution they all finally agreed upon was all about ‘secession clause’ or ‘no secession clause’? You mean your not aware of the federalist nature of the constitution which has been jettisoned today? Your problem is that you cherry-pick little sections of the argument that suit your ‘blame Zik at all costs for all our woes’ narrative while ignoring the entire picture that you know would tell a different story! 4 Likes |
Re: Help!!! Pre Independence List Of Crises In D North Were Dey Killed Igbos by gidgiddy: 9:26pm On Nov 11, 2019 |
Tobichimezie: It's one of the many lies of Lagos/Ibadan expressway media. It is not possible for one man alone to decide what enters a constitution in a democracy 3 Likes 1 Share |
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