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Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Nobody: 9:56pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
LegendHero:PDP don't control the SE. The only time the PDP do well is during Presidential elections and that may end if the APC do the needful come 2023. Sometimes you overcome your opponents by winning them to your side. Many parties have won elections in the SE including AD, ACN, ANPP, Labour, PPA and othe unthinkable names. The PDP from inception took foothold of the SE because names like Alex Ekwueme, and other eastern leaders were founders of the party. Unlike the ANPP and AD were the Igbo's joined late. However, Obasanjo iron rule and monopoly of rigging elections in th SE denied many parties the leverage from enjoying chunk votes in the Presidential elections. This was the reason why the Buhari/Okadigbo and even Ikemba Ojukwu were rigged out by Inec in the Presidential elections. The votes Ojukwu got in the SE were allocated to Obasanjo, this is the truth. In time many people began to hate the party because of Obasanjo's antics, save for the coming of Umaru Yar'adua who endeared many anti-PDP politicians to the party and the coming of GEJ as President that again cemented that love. The PDP would have died naturally post-2015 had Buhari played his politics right. But he failed to do so and thus gave the PDP their strength back. The Yoruba's are intelligent people so I don't dispute that. In education you were the pacesetters in those years. So no one can dispute your cordiality and accommodative attitude. We lived with you people and since inception they've never been any recorded ethnic crisis between both of us. And please the SE wasn't anti any tribe until the coming of loud mouth illiterate Nnamdi Kanu. We had MASSOB headed by Uwazurike who was civil in approach. Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB changed the dynamics of eastern civility. And he was largely influenced by his untrained upbringing as well as the hate speech propagated by APC henchmen such as Lai Mohammed, Junaid, El Rufai, Fani Kayode, Buhari, Oba Akiolu and other uncultured personalities. So Kanu and his IPOB constitute a nuisance, especially when a large chunk of the membership are hustlers overseas and the local illiterate population of the Igbo nation. How many reknowned Igbo intellectual or personality is part of such group? Do IPOB speak for the Igbo nation? As far as I'm concerned they don't. 2 Likes |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by LegendHero(m): 10:01pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
UdechiHD: Seems I understand you bro. We are practically saying the same thing just in a different way. I can decode where you’re coming from and what you meant so you really do have a point. The only issue is just that most Igbos on here don’t present their facts like you do devoid of emotional attachment. You laid out a clear semantics of your points which is convincing enough to a large extent although I still have my reservations. Gracias! |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Nobody: 10:18pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
LegendHero:I have overtime noticed that many Igbo's have left the political airspace for IPOB members. Many out of their own choice and many others who were bullied by IPOB members with tags such as Efulefu, Aboki blood and Afonja. And many more again, who this present regime had killed the patriotic flame in them. If a survey is conducted in Igboland today you'll be surprised to see that majority of easterners don't accept Kanu's hate tendencies. Many Igbo are indifferent, some are in the middle and many are gradually been pushed to join Kanu because of Buhari and APC's political immaturity. Don't forget the Igbo's have a victim mentality. The civil war is still in the psyche of many. The death of 3 million people and many others. Many feel that the country still hold grudges against us after 50 years of the end of the war. What the Igbo's need in this country is acceptance and love not hate. It's like the Germans and Confederates who lost wars. The only way you take away that hate is when you remove every hurdle that reminds people of their past defeat. Statements like 5% and total marginalization in government will breed another civil uprising. President Umaru Yar'adua, Shagari and to a less extent Babangida are honoured in the east today because of how they treated our people. People still weep for Yar'adua in the east. Yoruba's should stop this attitude of seeing us as their enemies. As far as we were concerned and before the coming of Uwazurike/Nnamdi Kanu such rivalry ended after the civil war. Statements from political harlots like Nzeribe, Peter Obi or Arthur Eze don't define our people. Imagine the love Igbo's had for Abiola, Obasanjo, Fashola and Osinbajo. What does that tell you? You Yoruba's shouldn't allow political ambition of some greedy people create enemiity between you and the Igbo's. Many of us in the SE want an Igbo Presidency, we want 6 states and we want to feel welcomed in the Nigerian project. We have invested so much in the unity of this country and we feel saddened that we are still judged by the civil war. You Yoruba's have the edge to put an end to our difference because of your edge in government now. You can mend fences with the SE and pick an Ogbonna Onu, a Joe Igbokwe or a Rochas for Presidency. I bet you not even Peter Obi as VP to a northerners will change the mind of the Igbo's. The unity and fences we all want can start from 2023 till the foreseeable future. 2 Likes |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by LegendHero(m): 10:39pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
UdechiHD: I swear from the bottom of my heart I can feel what you’re feeling and you’re 100% right about the average mindset of the Igbos due to the effect of the civil war and their loss of patriotism which is understandable. I live in Atlanta and there’s a place called the civil right museum which is a museum that houses the legacy of Martin Luther king and the atrocities committed against the blacks in the Jim Crow era. Before I visited, I have always thought the Black Americans are too vindictive and complacent, I always thought they have an unforgiving spirit because they should have integrated into the society and forgiven the whites. I’m always indifferent to their plight and I always thought we Africans are more better than them because we lead in universities in USA and excel in the corporate America industries. But visiting that museum and seeing the videos and pictures of the atrocities committed against them, the Martin Luther king sacrifice, the beating and caging of African Americans, the killings and even the segregation such that AA can’t school together or stay in thesame restaurant with the whites during those period and many more videos broke my heart. While I still do love the whites, I can feel the pain of the average African American coz of what they went through already affected their psyche. That made them always defensive, sometimes overreacting to situation and crying marginalization and racism at almost every instant. It’s all because of a generational oppression meted against them which had affected their psyche and their attitude to life. This is exactly the plight of the average Igbo man in Nigeria. I know we have not been listening enough to put ourselves in the Igbo man shoe and what they went through. They have been modified to react different to situation more with aggressiveness because of what had happened in the past and that is where Nigeria misread the Igbos. Our stories are different which explains why the Igbo and Yorubas share different ideologies and approach to situations. Igbos are intellectuals, Kanu was able to pull those stunt by appealing to the grieviance side of the Igbos. He striked their chord by reminding them of the atrocities of Nigeria against them which explains why most people follow his propaganda without question. To conquer people, you have to appeal to their grieviances coz they will follow you naturally because you gave them What to fight for. Well I’m guilty of tribalism on Nairaland and I’ve always hated what I had become. I wasn’t like this 3years ago and infact I traveled out of Nigeria through Nairaland USA travel section for my masters. Nairaland helped me a lot but I have suddenly turned to an ethnic tribalistic hateful guy coz I can’t watch people abuse my tribe without retaliating. I don’t know if it’s possible for the Igbos and Yorubas to share thesame political mindset but I’m sure we can respect eachother differences and limit the hate and insult. Gracias! 2 Likes |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by oyatz(m): 10:56pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
The problem with you people is that you relish one sided obviously biased stories told by your parents and uncles about the civil war and want to force it down everybody's throats as the Gospel truths. You don't read the accounts of key players from the other side, let alone strive to have a balanced view of the events surrounding the civil war. You wrongly assume that the Biafran forces were saints who did no evil. Benjamin Adekunle was already relieved of his command and was no where near the war front when Isaac Boro was killed. Read eye witnesses accounts especially 'The Tragedy of Victory' by Gen Alabi-Isama joeyfire: 1 Like |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by fulanimafia: 11:18pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
Lol you ended up saying nothing. You tried to claim that the SE is not a politically irrelevant 5% region but ended up sucking up your vomit, trying to declare sudden eternal love for the APC; a party you demonized for being a coalition of PMB's (CPC, North) and Tinubu's (ACN, South West) parties. You termed the party (not Buhari) as an Islamic, supporter of APC, terrorist party. You're now finally receiving sense. As for the treachery trait of the SW which Emir Sanusi pointed out clearly (and is almost second nature to them), we are not unaware (almost half of them still voted Atiku this year ). In fact the average Northerner knows about the duplicitous nature of the average bayarabe quite well so you're preaching to the choir. However the thing is we have learnt to dine with them with a long spoon, just as they have with us and it has turned out fine so far. The SE voter turnout in previous elections is less than 5% which stamps it as a politically irrelevant region. Political nonentities and liabilities. Your only allies (SS) led by Jonathan are becoming less blinded by PDP loyalty, so the SS is clearly politically ahead of even the SE right now. Fact even if you want to cry tears of blood. You can save the rest of your diversionary rants for novices on the forum . If i were you I'd focus on trying to win our favour against 2023. UdechiHD: |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Nobody: 11:57pm On Nov 14, 2019 |
LegendHero:Igbo and Yoruba's can mend fence. What binds us together is more than what divides us. Despite the hate speech flying from both side, we've never had any ethnic crisis amongst us. Take a look at me for instance. I was born in Lagos and have always had much connection with Yoruba's. To the extent that I became a card carrying member of ACN because of Fashola. Even till my dying days, I'll always be grateful to Tinubu because he didn't only made it possible for me to finish my secondary school in Lagos public school, he paid my sister's NECO in he SS3 and my own WAEC fee in 2004. And as far as you are a Lagosian it didn't matter to Tinubu, everyone was the same. Fashola took such attitude to and he's still loved among Igbos. It just of recent that the Stockholm syndrome seems to be getting into my head all thanks to the social media influence. I find myself unconsciously using derogatory words online of which I can never use offline. However, each time I meet anti Tinubu folks I try as much as possible to vindicate many lies about him. I also still dispute many lies about the Yoruba's in the midst if my own people at any given occasion. I still do that till now. Much water have passed through the basket and things seems to be pushing the Igbo's and Yoruba's into more enmity. The Igbo seems to be helpless now. The IPOB fiasco and so many amateurish politicians such as Peter Obi leading the Igbo's. Folks such as Nnamdi Kanu are just misleading many Igbo youths. They take advantage of the frustration of the people to change their psyche. Igbos are wonderful people, but Nigeria have overtime brought out the twisted faces of these people. Partly cause by our own self mistakes and also by outside suppression. The Yoruba's and Igbo's are the ones dragging this country down. The efforts they spend on nonsignificant arguments can be channeled into love, good leadership and progress from the hands of the conservative north. The minorities in the south as well as the middle belt look up to us, but we've failed overtime to settle our differences. 2 Likes |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Cherez: 12:15am On Nov 15, 2019 |
LegendHero:Lol Funny you, divide and rule system indeed. Support them against the Igbos? So, it is the Igbos that comprise bulk of the criminals looting ND oil dry since 1960? You keep shouting at Nzeogwu and casting all aspersions on him for a coup even some Yorubas indulged in yet you claim you support the ND against Igbos. Though I agree GEJ messed up but you tacitly fought GEJ for political reasons as PMB has still proved by the monies he is pumping to Kogi on election eve he is worse than GEJ. You fought this GEJ while claiming he is Igbo to deceive the SSners. Is GEJ an Igbo man? So, why fight the Igbos for supporting GEJ a SSner. Your support for PMB is is for your greed to be a president again or that GEJ was clueless and needed to be removed? If so, why not pick another SSner if you so respect them. Greed & heartlessness of the major tribes in Nigeria. You cooperate in deceit with the minor tribes to fight your enemy major tribe, use them.amd dump them. Why do you not respect the Igbos? Cos they want out of your greedy Nigeria sucking the commoner dry? NB: I dont hate the Yorubas, I LOVE THEM. Dont relate your behavior to others in our case. Even if the whole Igbo nation is to exterminated today, you'll still spite on the Ijebus, Ilajes, etc. You'll always have someone to hate on if you keep with this hate mentality of yours 2 Likes |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by LegendHero(m): 2:38am On Nov 15, 2019 |
UdechiHD: Totally agree with you. I hope things change gradually soon for the better of both of us. I’m even short of words because the more I write the more my brain keep tormenting me coz I don’t actually know what method we can devise to build the love between the Yorubas and Igbos. No matter how hard I try to think of a solution even to this tiny Nairaland ecosystem, I can’t seems to find a remedy. But things might actually change if we try to at least hope and work towards change irrespective of how slow we progress. |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Osaze007: 2:53am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Idahosa speaks for himself I’m voting Tinubu or any Yoruba man that presents himself it Igbos are to scared to contest 1 Like |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by duncun: 3:37am On Nov 15, 2019 |
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Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by JJOF(m): 4:05am On Nov 15, 2019 |
oyatz:The South is too divided, that's why that can be possible. |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by hisexcellency34: 7:43am On Nov 15, 2019 |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by nairavsdollars(f): 7:46am On Nov 15, 2019 |
hate speech! FuckThaMod: |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by FuckThaMod: 8:26am On Nov 15, 2019 |
nairavsdollars:Oh it's hate speech now because igbo isn't the subject of the matter |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by hisexcellency34: 5:23pm On Nov 15, 2019 |
Before nko? FuckThaMod: |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Truthisit: 5:03pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
Overself:Go ahead! Betrayal is a chain. It does not end. |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Overself: 6:13pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
Truthisit:Who are u? |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Cherez: 1:17pm On Nov 18, 2019 |
LegendHero:Apologies to Delta state? So, Kaduna Nzeogwu is no longer from Delta abi some parts of Delta state isnt Igbo again? Egoistic nature with the aim of skewing every story towards his own interest. See how you keep attacking people for raising salient point. Claiming first TV station, etc, oga mention billionaires in the SW not linked to oil money. I beg, stop deceiving yourself; Yes the political sharing formula is based on population from Hausa to Yoruba, Igbo, etc. But ask yourself, are you really enjoying Nigeria as it is? Have the so called formular benefited the common man? Be reasonable for once. We cry racism everywhere but the worst form of segregation is that within blacks. Continue your supremacism drive |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by Cherez: 1:35pm On Nov 18, 2019 |
LegendHero: "SW were also instrumental to him becoming the president when he was acting president especially when the northern cabals wanted to deny him the chance." How is this a fact? Please what did you do exactly to pressure out the cabals? |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by BlackfireX: 4:49pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
EfonAlaaye2023: And when it flops ....blame ya self.... Mr chest beater. |
Re: Charles Idahosa: I Will Support A Northern President After Buhari's Tenure by BlackfireX: 4:51pm On Nov 22, 2019 |
IvarTheBoneless: You will be amazed... Like the gangan drum... |
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