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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by nlPoster: 6:15pm On Nov 20
which has since left his family decimated.

How so?
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Dollarseeker: 6:33pm On Nov 20
Shegzy8:
She is only trying to gain public sympathy. There are so many flaws and ignorance in what she wrote.
There are parish pastor's, Area pastor's, Zonal pastor's, Provincial pastor's and Regional pastors. It is impossible for you to pastor two churches in Redeem let alone Zonal churches.
No Redeemed pastor builds a church with his money, they are contributed from all quarters.

Tithes and offerings are remitted according to hierarchy. They are meant for the church and not pastor's. So she shouldn't go about feeding people lies.

Pastor's are paid there allowance and salary monthly and are also been paid pension after retirement.
It shows she knows nothing about the church apart from been a pastor's daughter.
is their pastors salary up to 100k?

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Anniie4u(f): 7:18pm On Nov 20
Shegzy8:
She is only trying to gain public sympathy. There are so many flaws and ignorance in what she wrote.
There are parish pastor's, Area pastor's, Zonal pastor's, Provincial pastor's and Regional pastors. It is impossible for you to pastor two churches in Redeem let alone Zonal churches.
No Redeemed pastor builds a church with his money, they are contributed from all quarters.

Tithes and offerings are remitted according to hierarchy. They are meant for the church and not pastor's. So she shouldn't go about feeding people lies.

Pastor's are paid there allowance and salary monthly and are also been paid pension after retirement.
It shows she knows nothing about the church apart from been a pastor's daughter.
.

To a large extent She is saying the truth!

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Gakinola(f): 7:42pm On Nov 20
Shegzy8:


Lol. You are quite ignorant. Just like the civil service, Redeem pays according to hierarchy. Parish pastor's, Area pastor's, Zonal Pastor's, Provincial pastor's, Regional pastor's, Special assistants to GO.
I repeat again, building of churches isn't only financed by a pastor, so many members contribute one way or the other.
About been transferred, it is a norm in redeem that makes anyone liable to transfer during convention month. Least you forget, the parish he is been transferred to was also supervised by someone. A parish pastor can only be transferred within where he resides ( that is if you live in ikeja, you will be transferred within that environment).
...do not mind those ones, they are ex-redeemed members, people feels that way about their ex/former church(the same way I feel about my former church even though there are many people who hold them tight) they will soon add tribalism to it now. Members contributes to build the church. Just like my parish, we contributed money or you donate whatever you have that will help the building of the church and it is not by force. Pastor contributing a certain/huge amount of money is by choice, the pastor in charge of my parish donated millions to the building of the church too and he will definitely tell you that he is giving to God and giving to God is give and take( it is not money alone even your own service to God). These days I use to pray that God should remove all the hypocrites in the church....you will definitely know them by their fruits.
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by mrLhanray(m): 7:55pm On Nov 20
oyaaa:
it can’t happen in redeem cos building a church is not the job of the pastor alone
I'm not talking about building a church, I'm saying the monthly/annual remittance to the headquarter is like working under pressure to meet targets.
How will such branches be able to help members in need after sending tithes and Thanksgiving money to headquarters, they will have to write to headquarters to alleviate members.
Its not only redeem, most churches do that. I once visited a church were the pastor was telling the members that they should contribute cos their biannual remittance is not yet complete.
Pressures should only exist in Business Organisations not churches.

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Shegzy8(m): 9:53pm On Nov 20
Dollarseeker:
is their pastors salary up to 100k?
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Some pastor's are payed way more than that. A regional pastor receive close to 40k as just call allowance, a Provincial pastor will receive close to 20k for call allowance also. Some pastor earn close to or more than 400k. They pay promptly and also receive pension when retired.
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Badb0y4lyf(m): 11:27pm On Nov 20
It’s wrong to talk about men of God and leave th let God decide who is serving him but this girl is not far from the truth my friend dad is an area pastor and I will be like your father has money and he will say something that sometimes he uses his money to run the church but I just laugh it off

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by sayisayi(m): 12:05am On Nov 21
[quote author=Shegzy8 post=84205357]
I am a member, I'm very close to the authority...Lol....I am the constipated authority

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Magnoliaa(f): 12:42am On Nov 21
chinchonglee:

Sharrap dia...
I believe her.... Pastors re scammers

You believe her because this is about 'religion' and not because of whatever logical points/conclusions she made?

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Magnoliaa(f): 12:45am On Nov 21
mrLhanray:
true or not, I believe this happens in redeem.
Some years ago a brother of a friend of mine was almost jailed for not been able to produce money for a particular month, he was the treasurer of the church for many years.
he spent over 1week in police cell and was charged to court, the pastor was hellbent on sending him to prison, it was friends and family that contributed the money. He left the church after the incident and relocated.
These churches don't care, its all about the money.


Goshh, and you didn't even bother to know the events adding up to that main incident? If you knew, you'd have written why. Why did you think that brother of a friend was innocent? undecided He was a treasurer. And you didn't think it possible that he might used the money in his care for something else other than what it was meant for?
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Craig24(m): 1:15am On Nov 21
AdebisiAdeyinka:
Lady narrates how Redeem church impoverished her family


A Twitter user took to her social media page to narrate her family's bitter experience with the Redeem Christin Church of God.

The young narrates whose father is a pastor in one of the Zonal branch of the church reveals how his father strife day to day to meet up with the target set by the Church's headquarters which has since left his family decimated.

She wrote:

My father is a zonal pastor in redeem. For years, I've watched this man slave for that church. Money that he would have used to put us in good schools all went into building churches and the church continued to milk him by transferring him the moment he's done building

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My father has built over 5 churches some days we barely eat at home. I can't remember how many times they sent me back home from school as a school fee defaulter since primary school and still, my father never stopped building churches. Why?
As a redeem pastor, you have a percentage of offerings/tithe you have to turn in to the church account and as at 2017 or so, if you didn't meet the bench mark for attendance, you'll be penalized. My dad has to "plant a church" every year either in April or December �
Reading this tweet, I'm actually crying for my dad and my family. This man is 50+ and he's hypertensive, yet they gave him 2 zones to manage as if the stress of managing one isn't already too much. But if you take away Christianity from my dad, he'll have nothing else to live for
I've had to grow up in a house where my parents loved the church more than me. My mom seized all my trousers one time because I wore trouser to a night vigil ON A COLD RAINY NIGHT! sometimes I want to scream and tell them "if you die, the church will replace you"
But what sacrilege! They will stop paying my school fees and tell me to come and sit at home since I'm being influenced by other people outside. Mehn! I HATE REDEEM! I HATE THE CHURCH! but I can't tell my parents this because a girl has to survive �
Did I mention that every month, they do a "remittance" where they remit every single offering and tithe that came into the church, to the headquarters? �� The remaining 30% is just about 1k or so. My dad never touched that money until one day when we couldn't get food a
At home and he had to go to headquarters to ask for that money. I won't even mention how much they gave him because it's embarrassing ���


https://twitter.com/i_preezah/status/1196714753542033408?s=19

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https://bidemiblog.com/lady-narrates-how-redeem-church-impoverished-her-f/





My Bro or Sis, Christianity in Africa is forceful indoctrination, mental slavery and unendng agony. The General Overseer gets richer n his congregations suffer in penury.
Don't be fooled, the black man's religion is idol worship, it's his last hope. CHURCH NA SCAM!

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by ednut1(m): 2:49am On Nov 21
Shameful its all about money. For every church account opened daddy and mumy GO are added to alert list. Imagine that

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Ishilove: 3:01am On Nov 21
Money money money...

No wonder we are breeding a generation of money hungry youths

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by ornicus: 3:11am On Nov 21
Shegzy8:
She is only trying to gain public sympathy. There are so many flaws and ignorance in what she wrote.
There are parish pastor's, Area pastor's, Zonal pastor's, Provincial pastor's and Regional pastors. It is impossible for you to pastor two churches in Redeem let alone Zonal churches.
No Redeemed pastor builds a church with his money, they are contributed from all quarters.

Tithes and offerings are remitted according to hierarchy. They are meant for the church and not pastor's. So she shouldn't go about feeding people lies.

Pastor's are paid there allowance and salary monthly and are also been paid pension after retirement.
It shows she knows nothing about the church apart from been a pastor's daughter.

since redeem is not open to audit by the government nothing she says can be refuted.
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by pansophist(m): 3:20am On Nov 21
Misdirected hate. You may hate the church, but the church didn't hold your father on gun point to pass through all these, your father, on his own volition, chooses to stay and endure the hardship bestowed on him by the church. It's about taking responsibility of ones action, and not blame some external factors. No one has actually gained freedom by appealing to the moral sense of his oppressors.

The church financial practice is what keeps it alive unto this day, and expanded largely. Your father is merely a cog in the wheel, a tool that will be replaced if needs be, as with every corporation. Is it until someone actually spell it out to Nigerians explicitly, or pastors admit that their churches are their private businesses, before Nigerians will finally realise that modern day churches are scam centres? How about seeing the clear picture on the wall and deduct reasoning ?

I can only wonder when Nigerian will realize that churches are scam, a business, a corporation, and an instrument of mental slavery. If all the years your father spent in going to church was spent hustling, your life would have been better off. Look around you, the richest people are out there actually hustling, not being irresponsible and expecting some supernatural being to magically make them wealthy.

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by SendAbroad: 4:47am On Nov 21
KFC is a franchise, likewise Dominos Pizza. To continue to enjoy brand trademarks etc, you remit percentage of your revenue to the headquarters...this is the same principle all these Churches use.

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by dederocs(m): 5:09am On Nov 21
grin cheesy
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by voltron14: 5:14am On Nov 21
Gakinola:

...do not mind those ones, they are ex-redeemed members, people feels that way about their ex/former church(the same way I feel about my former church even though there are many people who hold them tight) they will soon add tribalism to it now. Members contributes to build the church. Just like my parish, we contributed money or you donate whatever you have that will help the building of the church and it is not by force. Pastor contributing a certain/huge amount of money is by choice, the pastor in charge of my parish donated millions to the building of the church too and he will definitely tell you that he is giving to God and giving to God is give and take( it is not money alone even your own service to God). These days I use to pray that God should remove all the hypocrites in the church.... you will definitely know them by their fruits.

He should remove them and leave the saints abi?
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by femi4: 5:45am On Nov 21
Shegzy8:
She is only trying to gain public sympathy. There are so many flaws and ignorance in what she wrote.
There are parish pastor's, Area pastor's, Zonal pastor's, Provincial pastor's and Regional pastors. It is impossible for you to pastor two churches in Redeem let alone Zonal churches.
No Redeemed pastor builds a church with his money, they are contributed from all quarters.

Tithes and offerings are remitted according to hierarchy. They are meant for the church and not pastor's. So she shouldn't go about feeding people lies.

Pastor's are paid there allowance and salary monthly and are also been paid pension after retirement.
It shows she knows nothing about the church apart from been a pastor's daughter.
Na dem....The defender of the universe. Ready to form Voltron as usual....bullshit!

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by chinchonglee(m): 7:56am On Nov 21
Magnoliaa:


You believe her because this is about 'religion' and not because of whatever logical points/conclusions she made?
Nope!!! Am going to church, i knw what our GO can do.

Wen u need moni theybask u to call on God, wen they need moni dey call on us.

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by osaggy(m): 8:08am On Nov 21
Gakinola:

...do not mind those ones, they are ex-redeemed members, people feels that way about their ex/former church(the same way I feel about my former church even though there are many people who hold them tight) they will soon add tribalism to it now. Members contributes to build the church. Just like my parish, we contributed money or you donate whatever you have that will help the building of the church and it is not by force. Pastor contributing a certain/huge amount of money is by choice, the pastor in charge of my parish donated millions to the building of the church too and he will definitely tell you that he is giving to God and giving to God is give and take( it is not money alone even your own service to God). These days I use to pray that God should remove all the hypocrites in the church....you will definitely know them by their fruits.

Read what you wrote again and read what she wrote and then see how dumb you are... your supposed pastor is probably rich that is why he was able to donate millions...buttom line still remains that bulk majority of the work rests on the pastor...if he aint rich his family suffers the ripple effect.
Your last comment is just a display of plain stupidity...hypocrites? That is the word you all use when someone sounds the bitter truth...in the end you are just living in a world of deceit and ignorance . Indoctrinated beings

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by mrLhanray(m): 8:50am On Nov 21
Magnoliaa:



Goshh, and you didn't even bother to know the events adding up to that main incident? If you knew, you'd have written why. Why did you think that brother of a friend was innocent? undecided He was a treasurer. And you didn't think it possible that he might used the money in his care for something else other than what it was meant for?

contrary to your opinion, I know what happened and I never said he was Innocent, he was scammed and he explained to the church.
the bottom line here is the pastor wanted to make sure he went to jail.
he was not even paid for the job he has been doing for years, making weekly bank transactions on behalf of the church which requires money for transportation, giving account every Sunday and so on. there are other ways to amicably settle such situations, if not for the pressure on pastors to meet deadlines
I'm a Christian and I do go to church, I also know a lot of things which are wrong are happening in churches. Jesus destroyed the church cos it was like a market place, churches are not only market places now, churches are business organizations. Some members even see their G.O as god on its own, they literally worship their G.O

pls read Matt 23

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Gakinola(f): 9:23am On Nov 21
osaggy:


Read what you wrote again and read what she wrote and then see how dumb you are... your supposed pastor is probably rich that is why he was able to donate millions...buttom line still remains that bulk majority of the work rests on the pastor...if he aint rich his family suffers the ripple effect.
Your last comment is just a display of plain stupidity...hypocrites? That is the word you all use when someone sounds the bitter truth...in the end you are just living in a world of deceit and ignorance . Indoctrinated beings
You are the one living in a world of deceit and ignorance and you must be stupid and dumb cos you just described yourself perfectly up there. Good day!

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Acidosis(m): 10:54am On Nov 21
mrLhanray:
true or not, I believe this happens in redeem.
Some years ago a brother of a friend of mine was almost jailed for not been able to produce money for a particular month, he was the treasurer of the church for many years.
he spent over 1week in police cell and was charged to court, the pastor was hellbent on sending him to prison, it was friends and family that contributed the money. He left the church after the incident and relocated.
These churches don't care, its all about the money.

What happened to the money?

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by technicallyrich(m): 11:07am On Nov 21
sassysure:

Hierachy that's very tribal?
A particular tribe is been promoted 70% of the time and transferred to juicier parishes while others are sent to villages to go and plant churches with no help?

Pls, leave matter as e bi grin
its nothing but the truth.
Most yoruba muslims are been promoted as top pastors in ss and se while the se and ss biafran pastors are been sidelined.
What more is that these fake pastors use juju for miracle.
My uncle is a native doctor so i know how they sleep in his house for different jazz expecially the mermaid spirit powers.

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Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by nlPoster: 11:23am On Nov 21
chooses to stay and endure the hardship bestowed on him by the church. It's about taking responsibility of ones action, and not blame some external factors. No one has actually gained freedom by appealing to the moral sense of his oppressors.

Hm



merely a cog in the wheel, a tool that will be replaced if needs be, as with every corporation.

Hm
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by nlPoster: 11:27am On Nov 21
mrLhanray:

Some years ago a brother of a friend of mine was almost jailed for not been able to produce money for a particular month, he was the treasurer of the church for many years.
he spent over 1week in police cell and was charged to court, the pastor was hellbent on sending him to prison, it was friends and family that contributed the money. He left the church after the incident and relocated.
These churches don't care, its all about the money.


Probably there were other matters involved besides the money alone.


Thank God he had people who were there for him in his hour of need.
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by osaggy(m): 11:50am On Nov 21
Gakinola:
You are the one living in a world of deceit and ignorance and you must be stupid and dumb cos you just described yourself perfectly up there. Good day!

Its your generation and family you are cursing...you dumb lunatic.... i tot your Holy book taught you to turn the other side of your face when slapped.... Better get lost before i release esan curse on your foolish head there... Pathetic fool!!
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by nlPoster: 12:00pm On Nov 21
Stay civil please.
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by sassysure: 12:06pm On Nov 21
technicallyrich:

its nothing but the truth.
Most yoruba muslims are been promoted as top pastors in ss and se while the se and ss biafran pastors are been sidelined.
What more is that these fake pastors use juju for miracle.
My uncle is a native doctor so i know how they sleep in his house for different jazz expecially the mermaid spirit powers.
shocked shocked

Now this one don pass me grin
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by Gakinola(f): 12:13pm On Nov 21
osaggy:


Its your generation and family you are cursing...you dumb lunatic.... i tot your Holy book taught you to turn the other side of your face when slapped.... Better get lost before i release esan curse on your foolish head there... Pathetic fool!!
Lol....! Insults are the last results of insecure people like you with a crumbling position trying to appear confident. I won't reply you anymore.
Re: Lady Narrates How Pastor Adeboye's Church Impoverished Her Family by osaggy(m): 12:24pm On Nov 21
Gakinola:
Lol....! Insults are the last results of insecure people like you with a crumbling position trying to appear confident. I won't reply you anymore.

Resort not result. Get lost

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