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Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 6:51am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da:Oga do the needful, compare and contrast goals cancelled by VAR with goals awarded by it so far,using any of the tournaments, then you will understand. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by 0monnak0da: 7:08am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:I think if you went to post graduate school you would understand that it is too early to compare There is over 100 years of non-VAR data and less than 2 years of VAR data A literate comparison would be looking at at least 10 years of data. The other thing to bear in mind is that VAR technology and operation is in its infancy and still changing/improving and that means that what was used 2 years ago likely would be different for comparative purpose in another 2 years VAR is not the only variable to take into consideration. There are other factors as well so if you observe a difference between 2 World Cups you have to be able to demonstrate that VAR alone explains it It could be because of better or worse, strikers,goal keepers, even the ball changes over time We have rules like NO BACK PASS which only came in after 1992 and some are old enough to remember the Denmark game in 1992 that led to that We have rules like not interfering with play(offside) Last defender etc These are quite new rules so we cannot attribute observed differences to one factor 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 7:14am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da: Oga Literate, in statistics, you take sample of a population for comparison, what if VAR don't last up to the time you expects? Comparison can be done at any stage and level,if VAR is just 1 year into the system, it can be compared with just " 1 year" without it,if it has lasted up to 100 years,then it can be compared to 100 years without it. Why bringing up post graduate brouhaha into an issue that has everything to do with common sense? Oh I forgot, you're among the few that learnt everything you know off your " glorified " secondary school |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by 0monnak0da: 7:24am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:Population? We are discussing events here not populations Please stop talking rubbish Find out about the concept of "Power" in statistics It is clear you are badly educated and ignorant In order to make a good comparison you need a well powered study. You cannot say a person is a bad worker or a good worker because of his performance in one day or one week Before you talk of Inter class comparison you must first talk of Intra class comparison So if we compare World Cups where THERE WAS NO VAR e.g do we expect to see the same number of goals? No two World Cups have the same number of goals . So there has to evidence to show that scoring is the same in Category 1 where there is no VAR and different from Category 2 where there is AND That this difference CANNOT be explained by other variables Like Player quality the actual football itself The weather etc 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 7:28am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da:So you are ignorant of the fact that in statistics data is same as population size? I give up on you. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by 0monnak0da: 7:43am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:Stop ridiculing your self You cannot bluff your way through. The more you talk the more ridiculous you look So in this case what is the "population" 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 7:50am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da: Your last sentence should have been your only statement assuming you're wise. I will ignore your manners and still lecture you. Population in statistics simply refer to the size of data available for computation. Out of which a sample might be carved out. In this case of VAR and non - VAR comparison, the population size of the non- VAR is large as against the VAR,thus prompting the need for a SAMPLE ( obviously a one-year sample). Enough lecture for a Sunday morning. The choice to still be ignorant is still yours. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by 0monnak0da: 7:53am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078: You are a joker You have ONE incident of international football(World Cup) where VAR has been used ONE In your mind that is a Population? 1 Like |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 7:57am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da:Lol...ask yourself this question " how many goals was scored in the incident of first international football (world cup) where VAR wasn't used"? That's a valid comparison and that's statistics |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by chiboy1116: 8:00am On Nov 24, 2019 |
He set the bar so low |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by 0monnak0da: 8:02am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078: We are going round in circles one event is not enough to make a comparison also VAR is not the only variable First compare World cups where VAR wa s not used Were the same number of goals scored 1n 1984 1998 and 2002? If not you must have a hypothesis to explain those intraclass differences before explaining interclass differences You must also adjust for confounding variables like player quality or changes to the ball |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 8:06am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da:We can take AVERAGE goal per world cup event without VAR and compare it with that of the world cup with VAR while holding the other factors you mentioned constant. 1 Like |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by femi4: 8:08am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:you must be new to Nigeria football. Even yekini dropped from first being first choice striker from 1998 |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by femi4: 8:10am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:with VAR more penalties are awarded = more goals scored. Its not rocket science. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 8:10am On Nov 24, 2019 |
femi4:Yakini lost form and was dropped. It's a norm with Nigeria strokers. However take note of the conditional statement in my comment |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 8:11am On Nov 24, 2019 |
femi4:Still in VAR more goal are cancelled 1 Like |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by SmartyPants(m): 8:22am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da:Get put of here with all this sense you are making! |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by SmartyPants(m): 8:25am On Nov 24, 2019 |
chiboy1116: He was specifically asked about those players. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Abdulaaleem: 8:44am On Nov 24, 2019 |
The debaters, please you don't need to compare one tournament to another before we know if VAR leads to more goals or less. I think we should make intra comparison.. How many goals have been chalked off due to fictitious offsides? how many have been ruled out due to imaginary hand balls? and how many penalties have been awarded so far? It's obvious VAR is invented more to rule out goals rather than award them.. 1 Like |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Mrtaye: 9:00am On Nov 24, 2019 |
femi4:Forget sentiment osimhen is more prolific and pacy thus he's better than ighalo,the only regret I have is not starting him at the afcon just because of sentiment which cost us the cup because ighalo isn't pacy |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by 0monnak0da: 9:01am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:Go and play . You are out of your depth here |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by sotall(m): 9:22am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078: You killed it here. We don't need to wait for 100 years or a millennium to take measurements. Simply take an average and do the needful. 1 Like |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by femi4: 9:31am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Mrtaye:Let his record do the talking. Until he achieve one of the criteria mentioned up there....you are the one being sentiment |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by femi4: 9:34am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:Do the maths ...We have more goals scored via penalties alone. Nig vs Algeria and Nig vs Arg came to my mind |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by femi4: 9:39am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078:So Osimeh cannot lose form? You don't understand Nigeria players at all |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 10:34am On Nov 24, 2019 |
0monnak0da:I guess you have gotten more than your comprehensive ability here. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 10:36am On Nov 24, 2019 |
femi4:that's why I used the "if" conditional statement. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 10:43am On Nov 24, 2019 |
sotall:Don't mind the ignoramus quoting me up and down. Just the other day,a British sports analyst said and I quote " with the introduction of VAR to EPL,the era of players scoring 40+ goals in a season is gradually coming to an end" obviously he had done the computation and forecast before making his assertion. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by dabossman(m): 11:23am On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078: Messi scored 34 goals two seasons ago without VAR, but scored 36 last season with VAR. The rules of the game now increases the chances for penalties to be given and scored. This can increase a strikers chances if he is also the teams designated PK taker. But yes, it may reduce the number of goals scored across the league in total. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nvc078: 12:04pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
dabossman:Use EPL as a case study,compare how many goals top scorers used to be when VAR hasn't been introduced with what it is now. Messi is an exceptional player,he breaks boundaries |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by dabossman(m): 2:25pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Nvc078: This is the first season VAR is being used in the EPL and it's not even halfway yet. Seriously you can't draw a conclusion from an incomplete season. Besides, Harry Kane scored 30 league goals two seasons ago, but only managed 17 last season. That had nothing to do with VAR. Your argument would hold more weight looking at total goals scored in the league as opposed to focusing on individual players. |
Re: Osimhen Says He Wants To Be Better Than Yekini And Ighalo by Nobody: 2:42pm On Nov 24, 2019 |
Oga, Yekini and ighalo no be mate for football..you are even better than ighalo presently if you can manage yourself greatly. I wonder what criteria dey use in picking ighalo to our national team because there are better scorer in Nigeria than ighalo. Pls Never in your life compare ighalo with Yekini or else..... |
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