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How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 11:04am On Dec 24, 2019
I had been feeling a spiritual dryness especially in my prayer life.
Eventually I became vulnerable.
I never knew I could find myself falling back to what I was saved from.

Believers and especially ministers, how does one recover from backsliding?
Please help.

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 11:20am On Dec 24, 2019
1. Acknowledge that you have fallen, which I guess you have done.
2. Understand Grace. When you truly understand the place of grace in your christian life and submit to it, you will be amazed how your life will turn around. Stop trying to do it by efforts or activities.
3. Be patient with yourself
4. Get close to committed, spiritual-minded brethren.

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Sabby1(m): 11:57am On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:
1. Acknowledge that you have fallen, which I guess you have done.
2. Understand Grace. When you truly understand the place of grace in your christian life and submit to it, you will be amazed how your life will turn around. Stop trying to do it by efforts or activities.
3. Be patient with yourself
4. Get close to committed, spiritual-minded brethren.

You're one of a kind
God bless you

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 12:03pm On Dec 24, 2019
Sabby1:


You're one of a kind
God bless you

God bless you too, bro!

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Sabby1(m): 12:05pm On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:

God bless you too, bro!
Happy Christmas

Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 12:14pm On Dec 24, 2019
Sabby1:

Happy Christmas

Same to you.
Make I come chop Christmas rice for your place cool
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Sabby1(m): 12:24pm On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:


Same to you.
Make I come chop Christmas rice for your place cool

Yes, come to Nasarawa state tomorrow afternoon grin grin grin my Nigerian jollof will be ready then

Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 12:31pm On Dec 24, 2019
Sabby1:


Yes, come to Nasarawa state tomorrow afternoon grin grin grin my Nigerian jollof will be ready then

You don kill me already with this one. Thank you! cheesy

Nasarawa State!? My TP don reach to organize party o grin

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Sabby1(m): 12:36pm On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:

You don kill me already with this one. Thank you! cheesy
Nasarawa State!? My TP don reach to organize party o grin
Lolzz Anyway, enjoy your Christmas...best wishes
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 12:45pm On Dec 24, 2019
Sabby1:


Lolzz
Anyway, enjoy your Christmas...best wishes

Hugs...

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 1:19pm On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:
1. Acknowledge that you have fallen, which I guess you have done.
2. Understand Grace. When you truly understand the place of grace in your christian life and submit to it, you will be amazed how your life will turn around. Stop trying to do it by efforts or activities.
3. Be patient with yourself
4. Get close to committed, spiritual-minded brethren.

Thanks.
I believe number 2 is where the work is.
Can you shed more light?
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 1:42pm On Dec 24, 2019
pressplay411:


Thanks.
I believe number 2 is where the work is.
Can you shed more light?

A lot to say but time and space won't allow. Where do you reside? I will like to send you something.
But let me try and send parts of it I snapped. Don't know if they will be clear enough.

Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 2:47pm On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:


A lot to say but time and space won't allow. Where do you reside? I will like to send you something.
But let me try and send parts of it I snapped. Don't know if they will be clear enough.

I've read it.
Thanks for sharing.
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 3:20pm On Dec 24, 2019
pressplay411:


I've read it.
Thanks for sharing.

You are welcome brother.
I pray the Lord refreshs your soul and strengthen your inner man with might.

Grace!
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 6:23pm On Dec 24, 2019
RoyalUc:


You are welcome brother.
I pray the Lord refreshs your soul and strengthen your inner man with might.

Grace!

Amen.
I sent you a mail. Would like us to discuss more.
The challenge is when a minister backslides, it's not so easy recovering. Like a doctor that's unable to heal himself.

I often preach that humility is the access to God's Grace. It wasn't a coincidence that you should share that scripture as it's my anchor verse so much so some have labelled me minister of humility. Yet some how, I seem to find myself now seeking access to God's grace.

I knew when pride started to creep in. In fact, I urged some friends and leaders to pray with me and pray for me. But over time, I experienced a spititual dryness and became vulnerable.

I guess I need practical steps.

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 6:26pm On Dec 24, 2019
pressplay411:


Amen.
I sent you a mail. Would like us to discuss more.
The challenge is when a minister backslides, it's not so easy recovering. Like a doctor that's unable to heal himself.

I often preach that humility is the access to God's Grace. It wasn't a coincidence that you should share that scripture as it's my anchor verse so much so some have labelled me minister of humility. Yet some how, I seem to find myself now seeking access to God's grace.

I knew when pride started to creep in. In fact, I urged some friends and leaders to pray with me and pray for me. But over time, I experienced a spititual dryness and became vulnerable.

I guess I need practical steps.

OK bro. It's well with you.
I'll respond to your mail.
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Dec 24, 2019
pressplay411:
I had been feeling a spiritual dryness especially in my prayer life.
Eventually I became vulnerable.
I never knew I could find myself falling back to what I was saved from.

Believers and especially ministers, how does one recover from backsliding?
Please help.
It is well with you bro.

I don't know how far astray you've gone, but I don't believe it too far away from where you can find your way back to your Shepherd's fold.

Just try and retrace your steps back to your Shepherd, you shall soon find Him because He'd also be looking out for you.

God bless.

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 7:46am On Dec 25, 2019
jesusjnr:
It is well with you bro.

I don't know how far astray you've gone, but I don't believe it too far away from where you can find your way back to your Shepherd's fold.

Just try and retrace your steps back to your Shepherd, you shall soon find Him because He'd also be looking out for you.

God bless.

Thanks bro.
Please keep me in your prayers. Spiritual drought is a very unpleasant place to be.

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 10:09am On Dec 26, 2019
I know one of the hardest things is for a minister to acknowledge his wrong which is why it took a while for me to create this thread, i wish i did earlier before i became vulnerable.

But more importantly the essence of this thread is for those who have been in this position to give guidance to those of us who have now found ourselves in this rather precarious position.
It's a thin line between test and temptation.
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Nobody: 3:56pm On Dec 27, 2019
pressplay411:


Thanks bro.
Please keep me in your prayers. Spiritual drought is a very unpleasant place to be.
I've been praying for you.

One thing I learnt during my walk with God is to never stop praying regardless of how bad, frustrating, hopeless etc., things are. Never stop praying.

Though I have never backslided since I began walk at the level of the Spirit, because God never let me descend to that level as He has always been there just before it got to that point, the lowest i've gone in my spiritual life is the time i decided to stop praying.

It was then I really got to know the difference prayer makes in my spiritual life, as it helps prevent some unnecessary issues and reactions.

So from then on I decided that no matter what, that i would not stop praying, and that's what I have been doing since then and it's helped me a lot. Because even when I don't feel like praying, and don't even believe in the prayer I was praying, when I start and keep going, at some point in the prayer i would notice that everything would just turn around and become completely different from the time I started.

So at end of the prayer, the prayer would have helped me with the strength i needed which I didn't have before I began to pray.

And fasting also helps as well, and it recently helped a bro here where prayer alone couldn't help him, so I would suggest that to you as well.

Thank God bro for His mercies and I believe that He'd definitely see you through.

God bless.
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 10:15pm On Dec 30, 2019
jesusjnr:
I've been praying for you.

One thing I learnt during my walk with God is to never stop praying regardless of how bad, frustrating, hopeless etc., things are. Never stop praying.

Though I have never backslided since I began walk at the level of the Spirit, because God never let me descend to that level as He has always been there just before it got to that point, the lowest i've gone in my spiritual life is the time i decided to stop praying.

It was then I really got to know the difference prayer makes in my spiritual life, as it helps prevent some unnecessary issues and reactions.

So from then on I decided that no matter what, that i would not stop praying, and that's what I have been doing since then and it's helped me a lot. Because even when I don't feel like praying, and don't even believe in the prayer I was praying, when I start and keep going, at some point in the prayer i would notice that everything would just turn around and become completely different from the time I started.

So at end of the prayer, the prayer would have helped me with the strength i needed which I didn't have before I began to pray.

And fasting also helps as well, and it recently helped a bro here where prayer alone couldn't help him, so I would suggest that to you as well.

Thank God bro for His mercies and I believe that He'd definitely see you through.

God bless.

You're a brother in deed.
I realise my spiritual drought started with downward spiral in my prayer as I perceived God had answered my prayers already by Faith after about a year of consistency. So I decided to relax. Unfortunately, that was my mistake. Even though God had answered, my prayer life should be consistent.

Thanks for your prayers.

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by oaroloye(m): 7:37am On Mar 14, 2020
MISHIGAS!

Why were you professing Wisdom on FROSBEL2's Post: WHY JESUS CANNOT SAVE NOR HEAL YOU, in which I extensively exposed and defeated all of his lies- without support from any other Christians.

You had the temerity to bring up MATTHEW 5:22 against me, which is used by dunces to curse anyone identifying Fools as HELL-DAMNED- which I already explained in that Thread: LORD YESHUA WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO CALLED HIS OWN DISCIPLES "FOOLS" FOR GOING AGAINST THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, AND FOLLOWING HIM.

YACUB and PAUL were both HYPOCRITES who OPPOSED THE TRUE GOSPEL in ALL their Teachings.

Only those FOOLS who never learned The One True Gospel will think that they were CHRISTIANS!

. JAMES 1:22-27.

22. But be ye
Doers of the Word,
and not Hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
23. For if any be
a Hearer of the Word,
and not a Doer,
he is like unto a man
beholding his natural face
in a glass:
24. For he beholdeth himself,
and goeth his way,
and straightway forgetteth
what manner of man he was.
25. But whoso looketh into
The Perfect Law of Liberty,
and continueth therein,
he being not
a Forgetful Hearer,
but a Doer of the Work,
this man shall be
Blessed in his Deed.
26. If any man among you
seem to be Religious,
and bridleth not his tongue,
but deceiveth his own heart,
this man's Religion is vain.
27. Pure Religion
and undefiled
before God and the Father
is this,

"TO VISIT
THE FATHERLESS
AND WIDOWS
IN THEIR AFFLICTION,
AND TO KEEP HIMSELF
UNSPOTTED FROM
THE WORLD."


. 1st TIMOTHY 1:5-7.

5. Now the end
of the Commandment
is charity out of a pure heart,
and of a good conscience,
and of Faith unfeigned:
6. From which some
having swerved
have turned aside
unto vain jangling;
7. Desiring to be
Teachers of The Law;
understanding neither
what they say,
nor whereof they affirm.

YACUB AND PAUL TRIED- WITH SIGNIFICANT SUCCESS- TO INJECT PHARISEE TEACHINGS INTO CHRISTIANITY.

They spearheaded the banning of the GENTILE CHRISTIANS from CIRCUMCISION and THE LAW OF MOSES- which all of the HEBREW Christians KNEW was SURE DAMNATION for the Gentiles.


. GENESIS 17:1-14.

AND when Abram was
ninety years old and nine,
The LORD appeared to Abram,
and Said unto him,

"I am The Almighty God;
walk before Me,
and be thou perfect.
2. "And I will make
My Covenant
between Me and thee,
and will multiply thee exceedingly."

3. And Abram fell on his face:
and God Talked with him,
Saying,

4. "As for Me,
behold, My Covenant
is with thee,
and thou shalt be
a Father of many Nations.
5. "Neither shall thy name
any more be called "Abram,"
but thy name shall be "Abraham;"
for a father of many nations
have I made thee.
6. "And I will make thee
Exceeding Fruitful,
and I will make
nations of thee,
and kings shall
come out of thee.
7. "And I will establish
My Covenant
between Me and thee
and thy seed after thee
in their Generations
for an Everlasting Covenant,
to be a God unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee.
8. "And I will give unto thee,
and to thy seed after thee,
the land wherein
thou art a stranger,
all the land of Canaan,
for an Everlasting Possession;
and I will be their God."

9. And God Said
unto Abraham,

"Thou shalt keep
My Covenant therefore,
thou, and thy seed after thee
in their Generations.
10. "This is My Covenant,
Which ye shall keep,
between Me and you
and thy seed after thee;

'EVERY MAN CHILD AMONG YOU
SHALL BE CIRCUMCISED.'


11. "And ye shall circumcise
the flesh of your foreskin;
and it shall be
a Token of The Covenant
betwixt me and you.
12. "And he that is
eight days old
shall be circumcised
among you,
every man child
in your Generations,
he that is born in the house,
or bought with money
of any stranger,
which is not of thy seed.
13. "He that is born
in thy house,
and he that is bought
with thy money,
must needs be circumcised:
and My Covenant
shall be in your flesh
for an Everlasting Covenant.
14. "And the uncircumcised
man child
whose flesh of his foreskin
is not circumcised,
that soul shall be cut off
from his people;
he hath broken My Covenant."

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

14. "Thou shalt not
curse the deaf,
nor put a stumblingblock
before the blind,
but shalt fear thy God:
I (am) The LORD."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

18. "Cursed be he
that maketh the blind
to wander out of the way."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

. DEUTERONOMY 27:26.

26. "Cursed be he
that confirmeth not
all The Words of this Law
to do them."

And all the people shall say,

"Amen."

DESTROYING GENTILES BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE WAS CONSIDERED "GOOD FORM" BY ISRAELITES.

. DEUTERONOMY 23:1-6.

HE that is wounded
in the stones,
or hath his privy member
cut off,
shall not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD.
2. A (*Bleep!*)ard shall not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD;
even to his Tenth Generation
shall he not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD.
3. An Ammonite or Moabite
shall not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD;
even to their Tenth Generation
shall they not enter into
The Congregation of The LORD
for ever:
4. Because they met you not
with bread and with water
in the Way,
when ye came forth
out of Egypt;
and because they
hired against thee
Balaam the son of Beor
of Pethor of Mesopotamia,
to Curse thee.
5. Nevertheless The LORD
thy God would not Hearken
unto Balaam;
but The LORD thy God
turned the Curse
into a Blessing unto thee,
because The LORD thy God
loved thee.
6. Thou shalt not
seek their Peace
nor their Prosperity
all thy days for ever.

LORD YESHUA FORBADE HIS DISCIPLES FROM BECOMING RABBIS AND MASTERS.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus
to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes
and the Pharisees
sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever
they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye
after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind
heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them
on men's shoulders;
but they themselves
will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works
they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats
in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings
in the markets,
and to be called of men,
'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master,
even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man
your father
upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye
called masters:
for one is your Master,
even Christ.
11. "But he that is
greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall
exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall
humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up
The Kingdom of Heaven
against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them
that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
For ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence
make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive
The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more
The Child of Hell
than yourselves."

YACUB SEEMED TO THINK THAT BEING JUDGED BY HIS BROTHER WOULD BE NO BIGGIE!"

. JAMES 3:1.

MY Brethren,
be not many masters,
knowing that we shall receive
The Greater Condemnation.

YACUB CONSIDERED HIMSELF A MASTER OF THE CHURCH- IN COMPLETE DISOBEDIENCE OF LORD YESHUA'S EXPLICIT COMMANDMENT.

He seemed to think that he would get off with nothing more than a mild slap-on-the-wrist. He was used to a Yeshua who only TALKED.

. DEUTERONOMY 25:1-4.

IF there be
a controversy between men,
and they come unto judgment,
that the judges
may judge them;
then they shall justify the Righteous,
and condemn the Wicked.
2. And it shall be,
if the Wicked man
be worthy to be beaten,
that the judge
shall cause him
to lie down,
and to be beaten
before his face,
according to his fault,
by a certain number.
3. Forty stripes
he may give him,
and not exceed:
lest, if he should exceed,
and beat him above these
with many stripes,
then thy Brother
should seem vile unto thee.
4. Thou shalt not muzzle the ox
when he treadeth out (the corn).


. LUKE 12:35-48.

34. "For where
your Treasure is,
there will your heart
be also.
35. "Let your loins
be girded about,
and your lights burning;
36. "And ye yourselves
like unto men
that wait for their lord,
when he will return
from the wedding;
that when he cometh
and knocketh,
they may open unto him
immediately.
37. "Blessed are
those servants,
whom the lord
when he cometh
shall find watching:
verily I Say unto you,

'THAT HE SHALL
GIRD HIMSELF,
AND MAKE THEM
SIT DOWN TO MEAT,
AND WILL COME FORTH
AND SERVE THEM.'


38. "And if he shall come
in the Second Watch,
or come in the Third Watch,
and find them so,
blessed are those servants.
39. "And this know,

'THAT IF THE GOODMAN
OF THE HOUSE HAD KNOWN
WHAT HOUR
THE THIEF WOULD COME
HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED,
AND NOT SUFFERED
HIS HOUSE TO BE
BROKEN THROUGH.'


40. "Be ye therefore ready also:
for The Son of Man cometh
at an hour when ye think not."

41. Then Peter said unto him,

"Lord, Speakest thou this Parable
unto us,
or even to all?"

42. And the Lord Said,

"Who then is that faithful
and wise steward,
whom his lord
shall make ruler
over his household,
to give them
their portion of meat
in due season?
43. "Blessed is that Servant,
whom his lord when he cometh
shall find so doing.
44. Of a Truth I Say unto you,

'THAT HE WILL
MAKE HIM RULER
OVER ALL
THAT HE HATH.'


45. "But and if that servant
say in his heart

,'MY LORD DELAYETH
HIS COMING;'


and shall begin to beat
the menservants and maidens,
and to eat and drink,
and to be drunken;
46. "The lord of that servant
will come in a day
when he looketh not for him,
and at an hour
when he is not aware,
and will cut him in sunder,
and will appoint him
his portion
with the unbelievers.
47. "And that servant,
which knew his lord's will,
and prepared not himself,
neither did
according to his will,
shall be beaten
with many stripes.
48. "But he that knew not,
and did commit things
worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten
with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever
much is given,
of him shall be
much required:
and to whom men
have committed much,
of him they will
ask the more."

FORTY-EIGHT GREAT SPIRITUAL COMMANDS BANDS MAKE UP THE WHOLE EARTH- FORTY RELATE TO "NON-LIVING" STRUCTURES IN THE EARTH, WHILE EIGHT RELATE TO LIVING THINGS.

Forty-Awareness Levels need to be momentarily accessed to attain GOD-LEVEL Control over the Earth.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.
THE DYNAMICS AND TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

The Corporal Punishments are symbolic of more important Spiritual Truths.

To receive "stripes," as punishment, IS VERY, VERY, SERIOUS!

YACUB basically committed SUICIDE, and has taken MILLIONS of Christians into DAMNATION with him.

ORAL ROBERTS once prayed:

"HOW CAN I KNOW JESUS?"

He was answered:

"READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, AND THE BOOK OF ACTS- THREE TIMES IN THIRTY DAYS!"

KENNETH COPELAND said that he did it on his knees- and at the end of the thirty days, he testified, he knew Jesus better than any man on the Face of the Earth!

IF YOU READ THE GOSPELS AND ACTS CONTINUOUSLY, YOU FIND A DIFFERENT LORD YESHUA, AND DIFFERENT DISCIPLES THAN WHAT ARE TAUGHT IN THE ORGANIZED CHURCHES.

The True Nature of The New Testament is hidden behind PHARISEE LEAVEN on EVERY VERSE, whereby the Original Message is rendered various degrees of USELESS.

Not one Church is 0% Gospel, but no Church is 100%, either.

ORAL ROBERTS' TESTIMONY IS A SIMPLE TEST FOR SINCERE/INSINCERE CHRISTIANS: THE SINCERE CHRISTIAN WILL "GO AND DO LIKEWISE," IMMEDIATELY!

The INSINCERE Christian Hypocrite will give excuses why they "DON'T HAVE TIME" to do what was surely REVEALED FROM HEAVEN.

If you do not do this, you cannot possibly be a Christian, nor know Lord Yeshua.


. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. O how I love Thy Law!
It is my meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser
than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99 I have more Understanding
than all my teachers:
for Thy Testimonies
are my meditation.
100. I understand
more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate
every False Way.
105. Thy Word is a Lamp
unto my feet,
and a Light unto my path.

"MEDITATION" MEANS, "TO MUTTER," OR, "TO MURMUR."

THE LAW OF MOSES, in particular, must be read aloud, at least once.

A short selection of Scripture is then muttered or murmured hundreds into thousands of times per day.

This causes Progressive Enlightenment to be achieved- with new Knowledge being acquired with each repetition- though It may be noticed only after scores into hundreds of repetitions.

MEDITATION IS HOW SPIRITUAL POWER IS BUILT UP, AND ADVANCEMENT FROM LEVEL-TO-LEVEL IS ACHIEVED.

You know nothing about MEDITATION. I saw you mention It, once: YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. What the Oyinbos taught you about "MEDITATION" is LIES.

MEDITATION is the ONLY means to achieve something GOD called "GOOD SUCCESS."

Organized Churches cannot teach TRUE BIBLICAL MEDITATION, because that would FREE their PRISONERS from their greedy grasp.

Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by pressplay411(m): 9:29am On Mar 14, 2020
oaroloye
I did not refer you to go to an organised church to become a good Christian, I simply pointed you the words of Christ and His disciples which we hold on to as God's eternal Word which is able to save our souls.

Neither Christ nor His disciples assumed a self-righteous disposition nor insulted those who disagreed with them.
Their words were laced with Grace as they preached the gospel, showing brotherly love by which we know the true disciples of Christ. John 13:34-35

I exhort you simply not to be insultive as you can pass the message across in love. This will only lead to more hardened hearts.
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by oaroloye(m): 3:20am On Mar 16, 2020
MISHIGAS!

[THIS POST WAS ORGINALLY OVER 83,000 CHARACTERS, THEREFORE I REMOVED ALL THE SCRIPTURES, REDUCING IT TO 28,000 CHARACTERS. I SHALL THEREFORE POST THESE TWO POSTS FIRST, AND THE ORIGINAL WHEN I HAVE SOME FIVE HOURS TO SPARE.]

pressplay411:

I did not refer you to go to an organised church to become a good Christian, I simply pointed you the words of Christ and His disciples which we hold on to as God's eternal Word which is able to save our souls.

I SAY THAT YOU DID REFER US TO GO TO YOUR ORGANIZED CHURCH- YOU USED COLONIAL/IMPERIALIST OYINBO CHURCH DOCTRINES TO TRY TO BAMBOOZLE AND INTIMIDATE ME INTO FOLLOWING YOUR MASSA'S HYPOCRITICAL TEACHINGS.[/i

(1) THOSE WHO REFER TO LORD YESHUA AS "CHRIST" ARE ALWAYS WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING DECEIVERS- [i]WITHOUT EXCEPTION!


. MATTHEW 16:13-20.

. MATTHEW 24:1-5.

(2) WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE WORDS OF YESHUA'S ALLEGED DISCIPLES ARE THE ETERNAL WORDS OF GOD?

pressplay411:

,I simply pointed you the words of .... His disciples which we hold on to as God's eternal Word which is able to save our souls.

That is a direct reference to the SECRET ORGANIZATION you are ashamed to confess.

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

CAN YOU SHOW ANYWHERE WERE LORD YESHUA AUTHORIZED ANYONE TO TEACH THE CHURCH THEIR OWN DOCTRINES?

It was expected of any graduated Disciple to bust out new Doctrines all their own. Elder Authorities would only demand: "WHO AUTHORIZED YOU TO PREACH WHATEVER YOU WANT?"

. MATTHEW 21:23.

IF THE MASTER WAS ON THE "APPROVED" LIST, HE WOULD HAVE TO BE ALLOWED- AT LEAST UNTIL THE MASTER COULD BE PREVAILED UPON TO REVOKE HIS AUTHORIZATION.

Lord Yeshua explicitly forbade his Disciples from becoming RABBIS and MASTERS over HIS Church.

The Disciples clearly bamboozled THEIR Disciples into following THEIR Teachings, telling them, or deceiving them into jumping to the conclusion that he had authorized them to make up their own Teachings, just as the SCRIBES and PHARISEES did.

Find anywhere in THE BOOK OF ACTS- where the Disciples taught or preached THE ONLY THINGS HE HAD AUTHORIZED THEM TO TEACH THE WORLD!

ALL PASTORS ARE AGENTS OF THE DEVIL- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD PASTOR- THEY ARE ALL EVIL!

Those who follow them ARE NOT CHRISTIANS- they are REBELS!

GOD DID NOT DRAW THEM TO LORD YESHUA- MEN TOLD THEM THAT LORD YESHUA IS THE CHRIST: THEY NEVER HEARD IT FROM GOD.

.    MATTHEW 28:16-20.

THEY WERE ONLY AUTHORIZED TO TEACH WHAT LORD YESHUA HAD TAUGHT THEM.

That, they never did.

They gave the Church intolerable burdens to bear, that literally killed them all.

pressplay411:

Neither Christ nor His disciples assumed a self-righteous disposition nor insulted those who disagreed with them.

(3) IT IS INSULTING AGAINST OUR INTELLIGENCE THAT YOU TRY TO INTIMIDATE US WITH AN INJUNCTION TO CONFORM TO THE OYINBO COLONIAL/IMPERIALIST MADE-UP FANTASY JESUS- WHO NEVER INSULTED ANYONE, AND WHO NEVER EXISTED- IN ORDER TO MAKE CHRISTIANS WEAK AND TIMID COMPLIANT SERVANTS OF THE POPE, EUROPEAN MONARCHY, AND AMERICAN PRESIDENCY!

. PROVERBS 1:7.

YOU HYPOCRITES TAKE MATTHEW 5:22 OUT-OF-CONTEXT, TO CLAIM THAT ANYONE CALLING ANYONE ELSE A "FOOL" IS IN DANGER OF HELL FIRE.

Why would God protect FOOLS from being labeled?

The context shows that Lord Yeshua was referring to those who called HIS DISCIPLES "FOOLS," FOR FOLLOWING HIM.

. MATTHEW 23:16-33.

. LUKE 11:39-40.

LORD YESHUA FAMOUSLY CALLED THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES "FOOLS," "BLIND GUIDES," AND "SERPENTS."

You cannot say that you were unaware of those insults.

You therefore deliberately lied, and tried to DECEIVE us.

.    ROMANS 1:16-25.

PAUL LIED ABOUT EVERYTHING; HIS PURPOSE, FROM THE BEGINNING, WAS TO DESTROY THE GOSPEL OF LORD YESHUA.

Any "adult" who does not know that does not know anything about The Gospel, and is lacking in sanity and intelligence.

The apostacy and corruption of all of the Apostles is obvious. The Oyinbos imposed their view of The Bible upon the World BY MILITARY MIGHT. Our surviving predecessors went along with it without thinking. Many of those who resisted were persecuted and even killed outright. Why does everybody forget that that ever happened?

PAUL INSULTS ALL WHO BELIEVE ON THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF LORD YESHUA, HE CALLS LORD YESHUA AND "FOOLS" FOR BELIEVING HIS PARABLE TEACHINGS EXPLAINING THE NATURE OF GOD!

. MATTHEW 13:34-35.

. MARK 4:33-34.

THIS WOULD BE PAUL USING THE FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE MOSES CALLED "CURSING THE DEAF."

. LEVITICUS 19:14.

. DEUTERONOMY 27:18.

THE PHARISEES AND LAWYERS HAD TO BE CAREFUL THAT THEY DID NOT CREATE DOCTRINES THAT CONDEMNED THE REST OF THEM- A CONSIDERATION THAT DID NOT BOTHER THE LORD...

. LUKE 11:37-54.

EVERY PHARISEE HATED LORD YESHUA- WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

Lord Yeshua called them ALL, without exception:

RAVENING.
WICKED.
FOOLS.
AS GRAVES.
CHILDREN OF PROPHET-KILLERS.
HE DECLARED "WOE" UNTO THEM.


I want you to know that THESE ARE EXTREMELY TERRIBLE INSULTS.

Where YOU claimed that there WERE NO INSULTS! You lied to us, because you were filling orders of those who taught you that lie of a "JESUS CHRIST, MEEK & MILD."

They did not dine with him because they loved him, but because they wanted to get something on him, to destroy him, and seize his stuff. That was what Pharisees did. That was how they were "ravening" and "covetous."

Wives would suddenly find themselves widows. The Pharisees would appear suddenly, tell them that their husbands had been "Cut-Offs," and, after praying a pious prayer, seize their stuff.

If Lord Yeshua had not backed up his rhetoric with irrefutable facts, the Pharisees would have done the same to him. That was why they didn't try him during the daytime.

Anybody right-minded should find that behavior disgusting. That is what the Israelites were living with by the time of Yochannan Baptist and Lord Yeshua.

. MATTHEW 3:1-17.

YOCHANNAN BAPTIST CALLED THE PHARISEES "VIPERS:" CREEPING CREATURES THAT KILL WITH A BITE OF THEIR MOUTHS.

That was an INSULT that TOTALLY BURNED the Pharisees!

These men were the TERRORS of Israel, and this bushman in a kilt made them look like idiots!

. 2nd PETER 3:15-18.

WE ARE COMPELLED, BY OYINBO COLONIAL/IMPERIALIST BRAINWASHING, TO BELIEVE THAT CEPHAS WAS A SAINT OF THE CHURCH, WHEREAS, IN REALITY, HE WAS THE SOLE ROOT OF THE EARLY CHURCH'S CORRUPTION AND DIRECT CAUSE OF ITS DESTRUCTION!

oaroloye:
. DEUTERONOMY 18:15-22.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

GOD COMMANDED BY MOSES THAT HIS WORSHIPPERS RECOGNIZE THE AUTHORITY OF THOSE WHOM HE SENDS.

Maximus69:

You're quoting the scriptures and i'm also quoting the scriptures as well. It's only God that can say "this is the person that got it right"

GOD WOULD NOT BE AN INTELLIGENT BEING, IF HE COULD NOT COMMUNICATE IN TERMS THAT HIS FOLLOWERS COULD UNDERSTAND.

Any inability to understand God is always a failure on the Human End- never on God's End.

. JOB 28:28.

. JOB 39:13-18.

. PSALM 111:10.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

GOD IS NOT SERVED BY OSTRICHES- TOO STUPID TO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG!

But that is what you were taught to say, by your wicked organization of Evil Oyinbo men.

LEARNEDNESS to the Christian, can only be the Knowledge that comes from KEEPING THE WORD OF GOD.

STABILITY, to the Christian, can only cone from HEARING Lord Yeshua's Words, and APPLYING them.

CEPHAS KNEW THAT- BUT HE KNEW THAT HIS READERS DID NOT KNOW THAT- BECAUSE HE AND HIS FELLOW DISCIPLES HAD BEEN WITHHOLDING THE TEACHINGS OF LORD YESHUA,[/i]FROM THE BEGINNING!

He was responsible for Attempted-Christians being [i]"UNLEARNED"
and "UNSTABLE."

. MATTHEW 11:25-30.

. MATTHEW 16:13-17:13.

. JOHN 6:35-47.

The only people who can come to Lord Yeshua are those given to him BY ACTION OF GOD: THE FATHER.

God can only bring those who can hear and obey His Voice to Lord Yeshua.

No one else has any business in the Church. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS IN THE CHURCH, AND ARE NOT IN THE CHURCH.

You do not believe that Lord Yeshua is The Christ because GOD told you so. You merely parrot what someone TOLD you to say. You are not capable of hearing The Voice of God.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

PROPHET MOSES SAID THAT THE WAY TO OBEY GOD'S VOICE IS TO YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT.

I do not expect you to ever do that.

No one has ever come back from your level of Blasphemous Deceptions before.

Why should it happen now?

CEPHAS IMMEDIATELY WENT FROM FIRST CHRISTIAN TO FIRST ANTICHRIST.

As an ISRAELITE, he KNEW the CONSEQUENCES of GAINSAYING a PROPHET OF GOD.

. 1st KINGS 20:35-38.

CEPHAS KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES OF REJECTING THE WORD OF A PROPHET OF GOD.

.   MARK 14:27-31.

ACCORDING TO CEPHAS' LATER JUDGMENT, WHAT HE AND ALL THE DISCIPLES DID WAS "LYING UNTO GOD."

. NUMBERS 30:1-2.

For every Christian knows how their Promises to stand by him and to die with him turned out.

.   MARK 14:50.

THE DISCIPLES HAD CHOSEN THEIR DESTINY- THEY COULD NEVER BE SAVED, AFTER THAT BETRAYAL.

They had rejected THE SON OF GOD.
They had KNOWINGLY rejected a PROPHET.
They had KNOWING rejected THE WORD OF GOD.

How could they possibly come back from THAT?

. LUKE 9:57-62.

THE OYINBO NARRATIVE IS THAT THE SELF-PROCLAIMED "APOSTLES" WERE EXCEPTIONS TO LORD YESHUA'S DECREES.

If you believed that Lord Yeshua is THE CHRIST, you would not believe the "APOSTLES" over HIM.

I say "APOSTLES," in quotes, because there is no record of Lord Yeshua ever calling them that. Lord Yeshua forbade them to be called "RABBIS," or "MASTERS."

Creating different titles meaning the same thing does not technically violate the Commandment.

Let me now explain what "FEAR-OF-THE-LORD" means: TO CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT GOD MAY JUDGE AGAINST YOU AS REAL!

. ACTS 5:1-11.

THIS GOES AGAINST LORD YESHUA'S EXPLICIT TEACHING:

. LUKE 9:51-56.

WHY DIDN'T CEPHAS FALL DOWN AND DIE, AFTER LYING TO GOD- I MEAN, LORD YESHUA- WHEN HE DENIED THE PROPHECY OF HIS DEATH?

Why didn't THE ELEVEN DISCIPLES DIE, after LYING UNTO GOD- I mean, THE LORD YESHUA, when they DENIED HIS PROPHECY that they would ABANDON FAITH and abandon HIM?

Why didn't THE SANHEDRIN COUNCIL fall down and die, after denying THE GOSPEL?

THE OYINBO NARRATIVE REQUIRES ONE STANDARD FOR HUMANITY, BUT A DIFFERENT ONE FOR THE APOSTLES!"

The difference between CHILDHOOD and ADULTHOOD is that a CHILD has to believe what ADULTS say is reality, but an ADULT can choose to reject what they were told as children as bullshit, when they DO THE MATH FOR THEMSELVES, and DECIDE that it does NOT add up!

It is NEVER going to FEEL right, AT FIRST!

You have accept.ed the murder of two DISCIPLES for donating to the Church as Righteous. Your Conscience has become falsely-calibrated to perceive Good as Evil, and Evil as Good.

pressplay411:

Neither Christ nor His disciples assumed a self-righteous disposition nor insulted those who disagreed with them.

WHAT DOES "SELF-RIGHTEOUS" MEAN? THE TERM DOES NOT OCCUR IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

This is another FAKE COMMANDMENT that Oyinbo Theologians MADE UP to CONTROL genuine Christians.

(1) LORD YESHUA CLAIMED TO BE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY, DECLARING WHO WILL AND WHO WILL NOT BE SAVED- NOTHING CAN BE MORE "SELF-RIGHTEOUS" THAN THAT!

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

LORD YESHUA CLAIMED THE POWER TO FORGIVE SINS- WHAT IS MORE "SELF-RIGHTEOUS" THAN THAT?

. MARK 2:5-12.

(3) LORD YESHUA CHALLENGED THE AUTHORITY OF A DULY DEPUTIZED OFFICER OF THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY IN HIS NATION, AFTER BEING RUDE TO THE HIGH PRIEST, DISSEMBLING WITH AN IRRELEVANT ANSWER- NOT ONE WORD OF WHICH WAS TRUE!

. JOHN 18:19-23.

HOW IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU CALL "SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS?"

pressplay411:

Neither Christ nor His disciples assumed a self-righteous disposition nor insulted those who disagreed with them.

(1) CEPHAS ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- TELLING "THE CHRIST AND SON OF GOD" WHAT HE CAN AND CANNOT PROPHESY!

. MATTHEW 16:13-17:13.

(2) CEPHAS ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- TELLING "THE CHRIST AND SON OF GOD" WHAT HE CAN AND CANNOT PROPHESY!

.   MARK 14:27-31.

.   MARK 14:50.

(3) CEPHAS ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- TRYING TO GET "THE CHRIST AND SON OF GOD" TO AGREE WITH HIM ON A LIMIT TO FORGIVENESS- OF OTHER PEOPLE!

.. MATTHEW 18:21-22.

(4) CEPHAS ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- BLUFFING "THE CHRIST AND SON OF GOD" THAT HE LOVED HIM!

(1) THE DISCIPLES ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- DISPUTING WHICH OF THEM WAS GREATEST!

. MARK 9:33-37.

(2) THE DISCIPLES ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CLAIMING AUTHORITY TO BAN MIRACLE-WORKERS!

. MARK 9:38-50.

(3) THE DISCIPLES ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CLAIMING AUTHORITY TO OBSTRUCT CHILDREN FROM REACHING LORD YESHUA!

. MARK 10:13-16.

(4) THE DISCIPLES ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CLAIMING AUTHORITY TO RAIN FIRE ON THE INHOSPITABLE!

. LUKE 9:51-56.

(5) THE DISCIPLES ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CLAIMIING THAT TO LIE TO THEM LYING TO GOD!

. MARK 9:40-42.

. ACTS 5:1-11.

(5) THE DISCIPLES ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CLAIMIING AUTHORITY TO DENY CIRCUMCISION AND THE LAW OF MOSES.!

. ACTS 15:1-31.

THE DESPERATELY-WICKED HEBREW CHRUSTIANS REJOICED BECAUSE THEY ALL KNEW THAT THIS DOCTRINE WOULD DESTROY THE GENTILE CHRISTIANS!

This was, in effect, banning The Bible.

(1) THE "APOSTLE" PAUL, ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CLAIMIING TO HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG!

. ACTS 23:1-6.

. ACTS 26:8-11.

. 2nd CORINTHIANS 7:2.

THE MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS ARE TOO SHALLOW-MINDED, AND DULL-WITTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHRISTIANS PAUL SUCCEEDED IN GAGGING OR KILLING LOST BOTH THEIR SOULS AND THEIR LIVES!

LORD YESHUA explicitly stated that the only way such could avoid HELL was by SUICIDALLY-DROWNING THEMSELVES.

(2) THE "APOSTLE" PAUL, ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- CURSING HIS HIGH PRIEST, WAS A WITNESS TO THE CHRISTIAN LIVES THEY'D DESTROYED TOGETHER!

. ACTS 23:2-4.

(3) THE "APOSTLE" PAUL, ASSUMING A SELF-RIGHTEOUS DISPOSITION- REJECTING THE MOST IMPORTANT TENET OF LORD YESHUA'S GOSPEL!

.. MATTHEW 18:21-35.

. MARK 11:20-26.

. ACTS 15:35-41.

YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE CHURCHES WERE NOT BEING TAUGHT TO FORGIVE OTHERS, RIGHT?

PAUL had no CONSCIOUSNESS of ever doing ANYTHING wrong- [i]WHICH INCLUDED BRINGING IN HUNDREDS INTO THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIANS FOR EXECUTION.

He claimed to have been forgiven for that.

. 1st TIMOTHY 1:12-15.

However, when it came to JOHN MARK'S relatively INSIGNIFICANT "OFFENSE," Paul PROUDLY refused to forgive him, even when rebuked by HIS SENIOR IN CHRISTIANITY- the idiot who gave him his "IN" into The Highest Echelon.

Everyone had forgiven HIM- but HE didn't feel that he had to forgive JOHN MARK.

This was the point where he SHOULD have been EXCOMMUNICATED!

[(1 of 2) To be Concluded.]
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by oaroloye(m): 4:40am On Mar 16, 2020
[(2 of 2) Concluding.]

pressplay411:

Their words were laced with Grace as they preached the gospel, showing brotherly love by which we know the true disciples of Christ. John 13:34-35

. MATTHEW 15:1-20.

The Pharisees believed, and taught, that Righteous Works do not make one Righteous, but that Beliefs make one Righteous, even though one's Works are Evil, being violations of the Literal Meaning of Commandments of The Law of God by Moses.

.    MATTHEW 16:6-12.

. ACTS 23:6.

PAUL WAS AN UNDERCOVER PHARISEE AGENT, THE WHOLE TIME, AND TAUGHT NOTHING BUT PHARISEE TEACHINGS DISGUISED AS "NEW TESTAMENT REVELATIONS."

How is it possible that nearly 2,000 years of Christianity Teachers never noticed that?

If they preached THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL, they would have LOST their perceived authority over the Church.

How could the Apostles have been allowed to control the Early Church, if everyone had known that they had sworn to die with Lord Yeshua, but fled as cowards, when he refused to resist arrest?

THE FIRST GOSPELS were not released until CEPHAS and PAUL were martyred about 60AD. Unfortunately, this was too little, too late, to undo the psychological damage done, to entrench "THE APOSTLES" as perceived Leaders of The Church.

. JOHN 13:34-35.

HYPOCRITES, SUCH AS YOURSELF, ALWAYS LIE ABOUT "LOVE."

There are at least TWELVE different Ancient Greek terms that the Oyinbos deceitfully translate as "LOVE." Eleven of them are used in the New Testament, while the one verdion that the laymen know: EROS- Romantic Love- is not used in the New Testament.

The first term Lord Yeshua used (translated from the ARAMAIC by the Greek-speaking Antioch Christians,) was AGAPAO: Social, Moral Love.

"...AGAPAO one another, as I have AGAPAO you..."

The second term Lord Yeshua used was AGAPE: Altruistic Love

"...if ye have AGAPE, one to another..."

AGAPE: Altruistic Love, is the type of Love YOCHANNAN said God is:

..    1st JOHN 5:1-5.

YOCHANNAN USED AGAPAO IN VERSES 1 AND 2; AGAPE IN VERSE 3.

. 1st JOHN 4:8.

8. He that loveth not
knoweth not God,
for GOD IS LOVE.

THE FIRST TERM YOCHANNAN USES IS AGAPAO; THE SECOND TERM IS AGAPE.

God is LOVE, and He does not change: this is The Being Who FLOODED the Earth, DESTROYED Sodom and Gomorrah, and the Egyptian Empire.

Clearly, the term "LOVE" cannot mean what the ENGLISH-SPEAKING Layman thinks it means.

Every Bible Scholar knows of these distinctions, and therefore, when they use the term "love," without specifying what sort of love they mean, THEY ARE DECEIVING THE PEOPLE THEY ARE PREACHING AT.

oaroloye:

At the Senior Levels of Religion and Atheism are very able Bible Scholars, who know full well, that The King James Version New Testament translated ELEVEN DIFFERENT WORDS as "love."

[b]1. MATTHEW 43-44,46. Αγαπαω, agapao. "LOVE" in a social, moral sense.

2. MATTHEW 6:5. . MATTHEW 23:6. Αγαπη, agape. "LOVE" in the sense of affection, benevolence.

3. MATTHEW 24:12. Φιλεω, phileo. "LOVE" in the sense of "being a friend to-" "to be fond of a person or object."

4. MARK 12:38. Θελω, thelo. To determine (as an act), to delight in, desire, to be disposed toward.

5. 1st THESSALONIANS 4:9; HEBREWS 13:1. Φιλαδελφια, philadelphia. Fond of brethren; fraternal love.

6. 1st TIMOTHY 6:10. Φιλαργυρια; philaguria. "LOVE" in the sense of "the love of money."

7. TITUS 2:4. (Love Husband.) Φιλανδρος; philandros. "LOVE" in the sense of "fond of man;" "affectionate love as a wife."

8. TITUS 2:4. (Love Children.) Φιλοτεκνος; phileteknos. "LOVE" in the sense of "fond of children;" "maternal love."

9. TITUS 3:4. Φιλανθρωπια; philantropia. "LOVE" in the sense of "fondness of Mankind;" benevolence.

10. 1st PETER 3:8. Φιλαφελφος; philadelphos. "LOVE" in the sense of "fond of brethren;" fraternal love.

11. REVELATION 3:19. Φιλεω; phileo. "LOVE" in the sense of "to be a friend to;" "to have affection for;" "personal feeling;" sentiment, duty, propriety, "kiss love."[/b]


pressplay411:

I exhort you simply not to be insultive as you can pass the message across in love.

IF JOHN 13:34-35 WAS ABOUT "BROTHERLY LOVE," THE TERMS "PHILADELPHIA," OR "PHILADELPHOS" WOULD HAVE BEEN USED.

The hiding of this information serves to confuse Christians, and make them think that it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to understand The Bible on their own, because things like this cannot make sense.

How could God Command us to ROMANTICALLY LOVE our ENEMIES?

. MATTHEW 5:38-48.

WHICH TERMS FOR "LOVE" DID LORD YESHUA USE HERE? YOU NEITHER KNOW, NOR CARE.

It does not matter what I tell you here- YOU WILL ONLY EVER FOLLOW THE FALSE TEACHINGS OF THE FALSE CHURCH THAT YOU LOVE MORE THAN LORD YESHUA, MORE THAN LIFE, EVEN!

Show any COMMANDMENT OF GOD thaty says that a Servant of God must not insult Sinners!

Show ANY Commandment of God that says that a Servant of God must consider the FEELINGS of the ACCURSED, WICKED, and ABOMINABLE SINNERS!

You know that making up Commandments that do not exist is a SIN, right?

. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

WHICH GOD IS IT THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE, WHO COMMANDS POLITENESS TO UNBELIEVERS, HYPOCRITES, AND THR WICKED?

pressplay411:

This will only lead to more hardened hearts.

SO WHAT? WHO GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO HARDEN THEIR HEARTS?

GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

THERE IS NO ATONEMENT FOR INIQUITIES- THAT IS, DELIBERATELY-COMMITTED SINS.

The Unforgiven and Unatoned Sins our Ancestors have committed affect us Spiritually, Mentally, and Physiologically.

ADAM'S SIN IS IRRELEVANT: IF THERE WERE ANY SUCH THING AS "ORIGINAL SIN," YAHWEH GOD WOULD HAVE TOLD MOSES; LORD YESHUA WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Only the Sins of our Past THREE Generations can directly affect us- HOWEVER, WHEN OUR 1st[sup]-3[sup]rd-GENERATION ANCESTORS WERE BEING INFLUENCED BY THE INIQUITIES OF OUR 4th-7th ANCESTORS, WERE BEING INFLUENCED BY THE INIQUITIES OF OUR 4th-7th[/i] ANCESTORS,WERE BEING INFLUENCED BY THE INIQUITIES OF OUR 8th-11th ANCESTORS...[/i]

You see the Problem?

This isn't FUNNY- this is where DNA Damage comes from!

Or what do you think will happen, if you have TEN Generations of Ancestors, and not only was not one of them ever HOLY- BUT THEY NEVER EVEN MET A HOLY MAN BEFORE!

Your Ignorance comes from MULTIPLE GENERATIONS of ANCESTRAL WICKEDNESS.

Which Commandments of God will you continue to break, because God did not send someone to beg you politely to please Repent of your Sins?

I say, ALL of them!

You are clearly that STUPID- if you think others to be that stupid!

[(2 of 2) CONCLUDED.]
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Mrlcredible: 5:45pm On Apr 19
pressplay411:
I had been feeling a spiritual dryness especially in my prayer life.
Eventually I became vulnerable.
I never knew I could find myself falling back to what I was saved from.

Believers and especially ministers, how does one recover from backsliding?
Please help.
how is it going now?
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Mrlcredible: 5:46pm On Apr 19
RoyalUc:
1. Acknowledge that you have fallen, which I guess you have done.
2. Understand Grace. When you truly understand the place of grace in your christian life and submit to it, you will be amazed how your life will turn around. Stop trying to do it by efforts or activities.
3. Be patient with yourself
4. Get close to committed, spiritual-minded brethren.
you literally nailed it
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Mrlcredible: 5:47pm On Apr 19
RoyalUc:


A lot to say but time and space won't allow. Where do you reside? I will like to send you something.
But let me try and send parts of it I snapped. Don't know if they will be clear enough.
please how can I get this full book
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by Kobojunkiee: 6:08pm On Apr 19
Mrlcredible:
you literally nailed it
No he didn't. He simply rehashed what your pastors and motivational speakers spew which has no true substance to it. undecided

According to Jesus Christ, the only way to obtaining and keeping the Spirit is to abide in Him and this through obedience of His teachings and commandments. God is law and one thing God will never do is violate His own law. He is a faithful God, keeping to the terms and agreements of the Covenant, Jesus Christ, which He has made with each one of us, and in return, He expects that those who will be His, will do the very same, declaring that those who love Him are those who keep His commandments. undecided

Anyone experiencing "spiritual dryness" does not have Jesus Christ living on the inside of them but instead comments on the state of his own spirit(man).
* The only way to come to God is through your obedience. undecided
* The only way to free yourself from slavery for sin is through your continued obedience. undecided
* The only way to abide in or remain in God is through your obedience.
* The only way for Jesus Christ to live/ abide in you is through your contninued obedience.
* The only way for the Spirit of God to live in/ abide in you is through your continued obedience

There is no other way because Jesus Christ is the only way and it is only by accepting (trusting) and obeying His teachings and commandments (Truth) that you fulfill the terms and conditions of the contract you have through Him, with God. undecided

Obedience, not prayer, is the Key to God. undecided

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Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by RoyalUc(m): 7:07pm On Apr 19
Mrlcredible:
please how can I get this full book

That's just a part of an article published in an old ACTS magazine.

The title is "Building a life of triumph." International Edition. July/August/Sept 2002. Vol 30/Number 3. Published by World MAP
Re: How Did You Recover From Backsliding? by sonmvayina(m): 8:07pm On Apr 19
Man is imperfect by design..so God really wants us to try. When we fail, we pick ourselves up and keep going.


The whole purpose is to journey from Egypt to the promise land...flowing with milk and horney.


The psalmist once said that there is no righteous man who never sinned. Which is true.

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